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[–]JamesNoff -27ポイント-26ポイント  (42子コメント)

Last time this was posted I pointed out that tapeworms aren't people, so it's not murder. I got downvoted but still, guys, killing a person is murder; killing an animal is not murder.

[–]Azara1th 46ポイント47ポイント  (17子コメント)

Also depends on when the fetus is defined as a person, and whether you think it's rights supercede the mother's or vice versa.

[–]JamesNoff 21ポイント22ポイント  (16子コメント)

right, if you believe that a fetus is a human being, then by definition killing it is murder.

[–]peace_toad 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Eh, I say potato you say pedantic.

[–]Ozzyo520 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

The highest court in the land has determined a fetus isn't a person until it reaches viability. That was 40 years ago.

No one would disagree that killing another person is murder. Although I don't think murder is the right word. But half of Americans and SCOTUS don't think an unviable fetus is a person.

[–]baddhabits 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Half of the world once thought the sun orbited the earth.

Just feedin' those hunr'y trolls

[–]dumb_giraffe 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

killing a person is murder; killing an animal is not murder

Implying that people aren't animals...

[–]JamesNoff 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm implying that humans are fundamentally different from the rest of the animal kingdom. You don't go to jail for killing an innocent cow; you got to jail for killing an innocent human. One is murder, the other is not.

[–]nomad1c23 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Still doesn't make a human any less of an animal.

[–]genius_simply 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

In just what way(s) are humans "fundamentally" different from other animals?

[–]dumb_giraffe -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm implying that humans are fundamentally different from the rest of the animal kingdom. You don't go to jail for killing an innocent cow; you got to jail for killing an innocent human.

But that's the point. From a logical and bilogical perspective, we aren't much different at all. Feeling fundamentally different from animals is simply due to our emotionally biased perspective (an expected product of our evolution; each member of a species feels loyal to its own).

And would you consider needlessly killing a dog to be a form of murder, for example? Again, it's personal emotions and bias dictating what is/isn't murder--so for some people, abortion does not appear to be murder at all.

[–]Cykablyatto 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Humans are animals though

[–]itsdietz 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

News flash: We are animals.

[–]itsdietz 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Abortion isn't killing a person. A person hasn't even formed yet. Instead, you are depriving women from a procedure that is safe and reliable. You need to watch a documentary. If I had the source I'd link it. Basically, if we don't legalize abortion, women go out and do them any way in unsafe, terrible ways.

[–]This-is-BS -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're describing "Before Abortion was Legal". I've watched it. It isn't a good argument.

[–]itsdietz 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is and it is very insightful.

[–]KalTM 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Unless you're Buddhist.

[–]skpicky 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Your religious affiliation does not change the law, which states the definition of murder, which does not include intestinal parasites.