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Bar owners in New York told they cannot deny service to pregnant women (independent.co.uk)
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[–]DeathBySnuSnuing -79ポイント-78ポイント-77ポイント 2時間前 (34子コメント)
For what being people? Shame on you. I would rather report obese children. Their existing people who are being abused with bad nutrition.
[–]jaweeks 42ポイント43ポイント44ポイント 2時間前 (16子コメント)
well, as a foster family that only helps disabled children who have been removed from their neglecting homes.. I'd rather the drug & alcohol related birth defects were stopped.. But maybe that's just me.
[+]DeathBySnuSnuing スコアが基準値未満のコメント-45ポイント-44ポイント-43ポイント 2時間前 (15子コメント)
And again someone having a glass of wine is not the same as an addict who cannot stop binge drinking.
[–]iceschade 29ポイント30ポイント31ポイント 1時間前 (13子コメント)
Studies have shown that no amount of alcohol is safe to consume during pregnancy. So this isn't a question of addiction versus moderate drinking. Either one can cause serious problems.
[+]RavvensHummingbird スコアが基準値未満のコメント-19ポイント-18ポイント-17ポイント 1時間前 (6子コメント)
No studies have shown that a glass of wine a week is unsafe during pregnancy.
[–]iceschade 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 1時間前 (5子コメント)
The news is fairly recent, so it's not surprising people haven't heard yet, but doctors and pediatricians have made the declaration that no amount of alcohol is safe during pregnancy.
Forbes also ran an article about this.
In this article from the American Academy of Pediatrics, they state:
During pregnancy: * no amount of alcohol intake should be considered safe; * there is no safe trimester to drink alcohol; * all forms of alcohol, such as beer, wine, and liquor, pose similar risk; and * binge drinking poses dose-related risk to the developing fetus.
So there you have it.
[–]dsmyxe [スコア非表示] 34分前 (0子コメント)
Doctors declaring support for a policy is not the same as science supporting the policy.
[+]RavvensHummingbird スコアが基準値未満のコメント[スコア非表示] 48分前 (3子コメント)
The study is based on women who drank daily....
[–]ThisMF [スコア非表示] 23分前 (2子コメント)
You were just arguing for a glass of wine a day. That's not acceptable. If you can't control yourself, maybe you aren't ready to be a parent.
[–]RavvensHummingbird [スコア非表示] 16分前 (1子コメント)
I never said a glass of wine a day was ok. there is a huge difference between drinking daily and having a single drink during pregnancy. Most people shouldn't be parents but for some reason western society has an issue with forced abortions and mandatory sterilization.
[–]ThisMF [スコア非表示] 13分前 (0子コメント)
Holy shit you're a psycho. Have fun with whatever it is you wanna do in life man. I hope you never make it ininto a position of power.
[+]CWSwapigans スコアが基準値未満のコメント[スコア非表示] 58分前 (2子コメント)
Studies huh? Let's see them.
Studies have shown that no distance of driving is safe, but pregnant women still do it. I'd rather a pregnant woman have a single beer than have her drive across town, no question.
[–]VolvoDrivingSaruman [スコア非表示] 41分前 (1子コメント)
Surely you can understand why there aren't a slew of studies on the effect of alcohol on a fetus.
[–]CWSwapigans [スコア非表示] 37分前 (0子コメント)
Yes, exactly why I called the guy out for pretending there are.
[+]TristanIsAwesome スコアが基準値未満のコメント-17ポイント-16ポイント-15ポイント 1時間前 (2子コメント)
No study has shown that.
[–]iceschade [スコア非表示] 59分前 (1子コメント)
[–]Its_ok_to_lie [スコア非表示] 42分前 (0子コメント)
Damn. Good shit.
[–]Gashnor[🍰] [スコア非表示] 58分前 (0子コメント)
You DO realize that the child can't filter anything out, right? The mother drinking alcohol is filtered through her and into the child, there's an point where the baby gets all the alcohol, and guess what, it leads to major birth defects. And sure, obesity is bad too, but let's at least help to unborn first for this.
[–]rockidol 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
For what being people? Shame on you.
Lots of women can go through pregnancy without drinking.
I would rather report obese children.
It doesn't have to be an either/or thing so that's kind of irrelevant.
[–]TheGirondin 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
Clearly a troll. There's no way your real.
[+]CWSwapigans スコアが基準値未満のコメント[スコア非表示] 56分前 (0子コメント)
The no-alcohol-ever philosophy for pregnant women is a cultural thing in the US. In many other countries it's considered fine to have small amounts of alcohol. Even lots of US doctors have no objection, particularly in the third trimester.
There's honestly a ton of ignorance in this thread. People just parroting a rule they heard that they know nothing about.
[–]BaldorX 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 2時間前 (11子コメント)
Do you know that a pregnant human feeds what they are putting into their bodies directly to their child? Would you give a 2-month old a puff of a cigarette, a glass of wine, a can of soda? No you fucking wouldn't.
[–]InverurieJones [スコア非表示] 50分前 (0子コメント)
That's not true. It has to pass through the same processes as anything else you ingest.
[+]DeathBySnuSnuing スコアが基準値未満のコメント-40ポイント-39ポイント-38ポイント 2時間前 (9子コメント)
Pregnant women are still people. Fuck you and your kind of policing on people. You are the reason women who miscarry are arrested for murder. A decent amount of reasoning is fair. Hysteria is not.
[–]TheGirondin 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
And kids with fetal alcohol syndrome are what, subhuman?
Fuck you and your kind of policing on people.
When you are a parent you are required by law to treat your kid a certain way, one of the laws is not giving them alcohol.
And have you not heard of fetal alcohol syndrome?
You are the reason women who miscarry are arrested for murder.
Oh blow it out your ass. Those laws were all made to try to stop abortions and you know it.
[–]spaceandtime69 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
oh man this is such a shrill and useless comment
you don't care what happens to the kid but you want preggos to drink hahahaha
[–]BaldorX 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 1時間前 (2子コメント)
Lol and you totally aren't being hysterical with that comment at all? Riight.
[+]DeathBySnuSnuing スコアが基準値未満のコメント-12ポイント-11ポイント-10ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
No I'm not acting like competent adults making decisions for themselves is on par with shooting ups with meth or the like.
[–]BaldorX 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
The second you equated not wanting pregnant ladies to drink to being the reason women who miscarry are charged for murder tells me you need to stop being hysterical, go outside, and learn about the world. Communicate with some real people. You are either hopelessly stupid or just an impassioned teenager with a misplaced sense of social justice. Cheers.
[–]Exotria 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間前 (2子コメント)
There's a big difference between supporting abortion and supporting behaviors that cause birth defects. With abortion or miscarriage, many would say that no person exists yet. With drinking during a pregnancy that's intended to be carried to term... that means you're willfully creating a person who, as a result of your own actions, could end up with a debilitating condition that follows them their entire lives. Allowing your kid to get brain injuries is generally frowned upon after birth, why not before? Is it unfair policing of people if you arrest them for leaving brightly colored cleaning chemicals in their child's crib?
[–]InverurieJones [スコア非表示] 48分前 (1子コメント)
Drinking in moderation will not cause birth defects.
[–]Exotria [スコア非表示] 32分前 (0子コメント)
We can't tell at which stage of pregnancy it causes birth defects, nor at what quantity. Small amounts at the wrong time can cause it, whereas large amounts at other times may have no effect. And people are notoriously terrible at self-reporting. We can't perform these experiments properly because, y'know, ethics, so you can't know that drinking in moderation will not cause birth defects (plus everyone has a different definition of "moderate"). As a result, the CDC recommends absolutely no alcohol consumption whatsoever during pregnancy.
http://www.cdc.gov/vitalsigns/fasd/
FAS actively promotes inequality in all areas of life by causing brain damage to children in demographics more likely to be consuming alcohol, and creates a cycle of failure that can't be resolved in that generation. It makes life harder for the parents, who have misbehaving children who need extra attention and can't perform as well in school. It makes life harder for the victims, who live life with brain damage and difficulty with all varieties of thought. And it makes life harder for their kids, whose parents are likely more stressed out and need more time to resolve problems. Not to mention the societal cost to all those around them, and the opportunity costs from lost productivity. Anyone in favor of social justice and equality should be against starting people off with brain damage.
[–]Randomwaves [スコア非表示] 14分前 (0子コメント)
Gotta be a troll
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