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[–]MeowMeNot 86ポイント87ポイント  (34子コメント)

What the ever loving fuck? Why start the charade in the first place? Did he really think people wouldn't notice that he is full of shit?

[–]eurodance 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

To sell his shitty books and appearances.

[–]aaaaaaaarrrrrgh 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

He already won - look how much attention (and possibly money for interviews) he got from it.

[–]ToUranusGirl 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

He would be going with the "There is no such thing as bad publicity"?

That's a bold move, to me it seems that the conman's reputation is what will stick to him.

[–]austenten 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd argue he is a smart man, but is absolutely not a PR man. He is more likely torn between fame, noteriety, staying anonymous and getting credit. All you have to do is read all the investigations and articles about him and his associates in the early days. It's him alright, he just doesn't have all private keys to prove it in a simple way. See my other comment here for more details.

[–]IFTTTacct 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

He probably thought the trump cards (convincing Gavin and others) would do it. While conning a few people in closed environments is much easier than conning the wider community, it DID manage to convince some people.

People that overestimate what they can get away with have existed throughout history - this is no different.

Edit: also, as others have said, publicity is valuable.

[–]Tim01123 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looks like people are still convinced, which makes my head explode.

Hell, even Gavin is walking this one back.

[–]1s44c 23ポイント24ポイント  (12子コメント)

Maybe Wright really is Satoshi and he is doing all this to convince the world he isn't. Or this is a setup for a book he hopes to sell.

[–]chinawat 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Never mind the collateral damage then? This just makes CSW a major piece of shit, Satoshi or not.

[–]cjley 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

My take is: there is a chance that Craig is Satoshi. Of the very few people who might know who Satoshi is, a surprisingly high number are of the opinion that he is. If Craig is Satoshi, his input to the community would be invaluable. So there is a small chance for a big win for us all.

If he is not Satoshi, there is really not a lot to loose apart from a waste of attention. So there is also a big chance for very small loss.

Look at it as a game: We could be nice to Craig, if not for the fact that's he's a human being, but because we are hoping for that big win (the case that he is Satoshi & getting his input).

Instead we are treating the guy very badly, and driving him away. So we are not even playing the game where we have nothing to loose and a lot to win. It's not a clever strategy.

[–]usrn 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Instead we are treating the guy very badly, and driving him away.

He was driving himself away by not giving proper evidence.

Did he really expect that people won't need any proof besides someone's word?

[–]Eirenarch 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh come on! Crypto proof or fraud. There is no "treat him well" path.

[–]jammastajayt 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

I am not one for conspiracy theories, but if a government was getting close to outting you, this would be a genius way of proving that you are not Satoshi.

I don't think this is true, but damn that would be smart.

[–]Afro_Dizzy_Yak 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

but if a government was getting close to outting you, this would be a genius way of proving that you are not Satoshi.

Not really. Government have the tools available to monitor Wright's private activities. He's already a target by the Australian government for tax and fraud reasons. You don't throw the government off your trail by bringing more attention to yourself. Don't you think the leading world governments would want to know who Satoshi is (if they don't know already)?

If Wright truly is Satoshi then this was done to throw the public off. That is how propaganda and misinformation are used. It's always to control the public. It's not the other way around.

[–]1s44c 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's too risky and likely to fail.

If a government is after you there are only two choices. Move to Russia, or do whatever they want.

[–]holocauster-ride 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Or Satoshi isn't human

[–]1s44c 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You noticed that Wintermute reference in his blog?

[–]cyber_numismatist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This seems to be one of the few explanations that explains all/most of the data available. I keep reading over this whole story and wonder who benefits?

[–]CryptoValidator 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

My guess, since he is trying to stablish that he is Satoshi, is that, if it is true that the coins are in a trust, maybe he is not able to touch them unless he convinces some people that he owns them.. Why else go through the trouble to prove that he owns a lot of money? Maybe the guy in Florida that died "was Satoshi" as far as the trust is concerned, and now he wants to prove otherwise?

[–]MeowMeNot 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

As reported here? Perhaps. I have a feeling we have not seen the last of CW.

[–]austenten 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's right, it seems Kleiman helped him refine the code, help him test and signed the trust into existence, which will be returned back to CW on Jan 1st, 2020

[–]outerspacerace 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

The greatest trick that the Devil ever played was convincing the world he didn't exist.

[–]jay45678 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

Gavin did not. Mantios did not. And he got JVP jumping on and bull shitting for no reason as well.

[–]MeowMeNot 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

But the public did.

[–]jay45678 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sure, but it was a pretty good try. 3/10 maybe?

[–]MyDixieWreck4BTC 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Maybe someone made JVP an offer he couldn't refuse. I mean he did say it wasn't Craig then did a 180 and said it was...

[–]jay45678 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I wonder if he was paid... I wonder how much.

[–]solled 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol yeah it's a massive conspiracy going back to 2005. Rather believe that then some elusive Satoshi/Craig just choosing to not publicly sign for whatever reason.

[–]Tim01123 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think he started this charade because he figured he'd hoodwinked some big names, so he had everyone hoodwinked. Then when people decided they wanted some proof, that wasn't some reliance on authority, his perfect little con fell apart around him.

We've not heard the last of Dr. CW, I'm afraid.

[–]nimanator 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Many on this sub didn't. Which is always a good contrarian indicator.

[–]r2d2_21 82ポイント83ポイント  (35子コメント)

The allegations began because you ARE NOT SIGNING IN THE FIRST PLACE. There's only one way for them to go away.

[–]jtnau 65ポイント66ポイント  (20子コメント)

He doesn't have the 'courage' to sign it apparently. I never realized signing was such a heroic act. Charlie Lee did it easily enough.

[–]Manticlops 61ポイント62ポイント  (2子コメント)

'Courage' in this instance should read 'private keys'.

[–]kmdr[S,🍰] 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

eh. That' s a good one. Sad one, but good one :-)

[–]NipperAndZeusShow 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

What makes a King out of a slave? Courage.
What makes a flag on the mast to wave?
What makes an elephant charge his tusk?
What makes the muskrat guard his musk?
What makes the Hottentot so hot?
Whatta they got that I ain't got?

[–]consensorship 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

Nobody cares about Charlie Lee and his abandoned litecoin though.

[–]jtnau 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

Price of Litecoin will explode when it's added to Gox.

[–]klondike_barz 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

It has more value than the most altcoins

[–]consensorship 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nah, just more bagholders.

[–]klondike_barz 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So bitcoin is winning for most bagholders.

Good to know

[–]no_face 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Charlie Lee is the Gandhi and Malcom X of Litecoin.

[–]bermudi86 12ポイント13ポイント  (12子コメント)

Allegations began because he (allegedly) signed but refused to do so in public. So any morons saying he is Satoshi but doesn't have the keys they better explain wtf did he sign with GA and the fucking press.

Edited some words.

[–]r2d2_21 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

There was a blog post on this sub that detailed how it can be done, by obfuscating everything.

[–]kmdr[S,🍰] 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

problem is, he left that un-easy task (I explain you ,and you'll have to trust me) for others, like Gavin

[–]bermudi86 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's one royal fuck you with sparkles on top

[–]chinawat 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

There's no proof that what happened with Gavin, Jon Matonis and the rest of the press wasn't some kind of magician's trick/con job.

[–]bermudi86 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

Uhm, that is exactly my point, thanks for repeating.

[–]chinawat 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

So any morons saying it is because he doesn't have the keys they better explain wtf did he sign with GA and the fucking press.

What? This looks to me like you're saying CSW did have keys to sign with in his private presentations.

[–]BitcoinFuturist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

And there's a lot of signs that it was.

[–]r2d2_21 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

But anyway, if he signed with Gavin, then why did he not publish the info?

[–]carpetjuice 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

GA got fooled. He only "signed" anything in your dreams.

[–]bermudi86 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

In my dreams?? Oh shit no! You have the wrong guy.

[–]klondike_barz 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, also because he lied about a PhD and a super computer that both the University nor the manufacturer deny ever happened.

Oh, and $54M tax fraud.

Somehow he's offended people are looking into his fraudulent past now that he's claiming he's satoshi

[–]singularity87 104ポイント105ポイント  (57子コメント)

Ok so he isn't satoshi. I feel bad for Gavin. What an arsehole this guy is.

[–]gizram84 69ポイント70ポイント  (30子コメント)

I feel bad for Gavin, but he made a major mistake. He went public before there was public evidence.

I understand that he was excited, but he let his excitement blind him.

Unfortunately, he will be now be crucified for that mistake.

[–]singularity87 31ポイント32ポイント  (26子コメント)

Ok sure, but considering the sit I have heard come from other bitcoin developers in the past, this doesn't seem particularly noteworthy. Adam Back was trying to say an (obviously spoofed) email showed Satoshi's support for him for fuck sake.

Greg Maxwell went around saying that people supporting alternative clients like XT and classic really wanted bitcoin to fail and they held large amounts of altcoins.

[–]gizram84 31ポイント32ポイント  (16子コメント)

I agree. I still trust Gavin more than Adam or Luke Jr.

[–]14341 0ポイント1ポイント  (15子コメント)

Fortunately, they're working on trustless solutions.

[–]gizram84 16ポイント17ポイント  (12子コメント)

Bitcoin is a trustless solution. Everyone is working on that. Are you somehow insinuating that Gavin doesn't want a trustless model? Because that's an absurd claim; on you have no evidence of.

Blockstream, however, wants to prioritize an off-chain for-profit solution that they can sell. Gavin is ok with this long term (everyone is free to develop off-chain solutions), but he wants an on-chain solution prioritized. Which is the original bitcoin vision.

[–]PotatoBadger 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not a fan of Blockstream's solutions, but /u/14341 did not insinuate that Gavin doesn't want a trustless model. The point is that the trustworthiness of Blockstream employees is irrelevant. Their solutions will either stand on their own technical merit, or they won't. The same can be said of anything Gavin's been working on.

[–]hellobitcoinworld 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

Such a good point. And why isn't Adam's access revoked? That was far more poor judgement.

Answer: Core is a dictatorship

[–]cryptonaut420 5ポイント6ポイント  (7子コメント)

Since when does Adam Back have commit access? He doesn't even code.

[–]timetraveller57 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Does not need neither when he controls the purse strings

[–]cryptonaut420 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

In a way, but that's another discussion.

[–]timetraveller57 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Give me control of a nations money and I care not what laws that nation makes"

maybe not word for word, but the principle remains

[–]hellobitcoinworld 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Precisely. Adam doesn't even code, made a poorer judgement call, and yet he is given commit access. Gavin, an actual coder, has his removed for a lesser "reason".

[–]jkgy 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Adam does not have commit access.

[–]basically_asleep 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

But he does employ a few people who do.

[–]itsnotlupus 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

There are still some parts of the story that haven't been told. Namely the details of what interactions exactly happened between CW and the people who claim to have secret knowledge of something about him.

In particular, Gavin has explained a little bit what the technical steps were, but he himself mentioned there were other, non-technical aspects that helped to convince him. Some nitty gritty details on those aspects would be nice.

Jon Matonis had coffee with CW and had "this weird feeling of having just met Satoshi." Later, for the "proof" session, he was convinced on three axis: "cryptographic, social, and technical".
The cryptographic bit, which should have been the least controversial, is something CW has not been able or willing to reproduce publicly, and he was careful to keep all artifacts that could have verified that it happened.
The technical bit is not very interesting. Knowledge of crypto and distributed protocols is a fairly low bar to reach. I could pass that bar convincingly enough, particularly if I crammed a bit beforehand.
The social bit is what interests me, since that's all we have left unexplored. Jon writes "The social evidence, including his unique personality, early emails that I received, and early drafts of the Bitcoin white paper, points to Craig as the creator."
So that's interesting. Unpublished early drafts of the whitepaper would be nice to share, along with whatever other detailed meaningful aspects could apply here.

There may be a temptation to keep those emails and similar such documents private. But this whole mess would probably not have happened this way if there hadn't been a willingness to go along with unnecessary secrecy and to assume things about CW that were not true (specifically, the assumptions that a meaningful proof of Satoshiness would be published.)

I guess we can wait for the inevitable book to come out, but there's a cautionary tale to tell here, and have it told soon is probably best.

[–]053179 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't feel bad for Gavin. He was looking to claim first out of the gate for his own ego purposes. He should've used camera glasses to record everything he saw.

[–]c4q9stAhvqeS 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't feel bad for him. I envy where he is now. He's learned a lesson that most of us will never have the benefit of learning so directly. Imagine how much value one can derive when they know that hard evidence alone is how one builds trust. To the extent that anyone's future behavior is constrained by this belief, i suspect we'll continue to see more innovations just like Bitcoin. Gavin was taken for the proverbial ride, but in my view (which is worth very little) he's come away largely unscathed.

[–]spitgriffin 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

I feel bad for the character assassination on Gavin and the holier than thou attitude over on r/cesspool. Some of these people must be insufferable in real life. Bunch of self-righteous pricks.

[–]swqe 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree people go too far with assumptions and conspiracies but shouldn't Gavin be asked some tough questions about his role in this?

[–]kmdr[S,🍰] 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hijiacking for visibility:

the homepage.jpg file that was present has been replaced by text.

if anyone has a mirror, please upload it (not to imgur, to a site that does not strip EXIFs)

[–]Bitcoin_Chief 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You would thing that someone who has been in the crypto space since the beginning and seen all the scams would have some skepticism by now.

[–]cypher5001 30ポイント31ポイント  (2子コメント)

How do we know this is even CSW? This website doesn't even have his signiture!

[–]CydeWeys 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hahaha, well played.

It's almost like digital signatures are useful, and can build a web of trust! I know, how about we try building a digital currency out of them? That could be useful.

[–]D-Lux 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right, maybe Satoshi's trolling him ;)

[–]usrn 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

How surprising!/s

[–]joinfish 33ポイント34ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wow that was fast, I was preparing to wait another 6 months.

[–]nynjawitay 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Part of me doubts this will actually be the last of him wanting attention with Bitcoin

[–]DJT2020 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Gavin faved this tweet:

Reminder: let's be kind to Craig Wright, as the events we have seen indicate some serious issues, and the note is disconcerting.

[–]Proceed_With_GAWtion 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

One of the replies to the tweet:

The note can easily be read as a suicide note.

I share this concern. Maybe it's a good idea to lay off the guy for a while.

[–]Xanather 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

There you have it, hes not Satoshi.

[–]nanoakron 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Goodbye?

This dude is a delusional narcissist. This certainly isn't the last time we'll hear from him.

[–]Hindrock 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can't believe the audacity of some people. How the hell does someone begin to think that's going to work?

Before I was amazed he was trying this shit when there's such a simple way of proving it. Now he plays the victim. Fucking psychopath.

[–]acoindr 19ポイント20ポイント  (3子コメント)

I just want to say somebody PLEASE make a Bitcoin movie. What did Gavin say? Truth is stranger than fiction.

[–]kmdr[S,🍰] 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

they have done several oes, but can't keep up with the plot twists

[–]um_ya 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

A director looking at this would just shake his head no... "There's just to much going on. We can't get it all". LOL

[–]austenten 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

And please be Oliver Stone, NOT Michael Bay!! Otherwise we would somehow see Bitcoin flying through a downtown street blowing up in slow motion.

[–]bitcoina 26ポイント27ポイント  (7子コメント)

What a twat..

At least admit he conned Gavin and John, don't just keep on pretending...

[–]kmdr[S,🍰] 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

well, he apologized, so that settles averything /s

[–]carpetjuice 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

Or better; will Gavin admit he got fooled? I don't think so.

[–]willsteel 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Sure he will. Why wouldnt he? Not doing so would ruin him more. But lets just wait if theres still more info coming up...

[–]chinawat 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

My bet is that he will, if he hasn't already.

[–]carpetjuice 25ポイント26ポイント  (0子コメント)

Another conman. End of story.

[–]ferretinjapan 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Whelp, if one wanted to completely crucify ones self in the court of public opinion and utterly destroy his public image, doing nothing after making the claim he is Satoshi is exactly the way to go about it. Given that Gavin, Jon and others publicly stuck their necks out for this guy, only for him to freeze up and run away is incredibly cruel as well. How fucking hard is it to sign a message with the genesis block and publish it? It's a 5 minute job if that.

Oh well, so much for that.

[–]clone4501 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

What do I do with all this popcorn?

[–]sreaka 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Put it in the closet and wait for the next BTC drama.

[–]1337btc 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

And now over on r/bitcoin they are saying this whole thing was a plot between CSW and big-blockers like gavin to subvert Core and garner support for big blocks. And people are actually believing it. Man, the bitcoin community gets more retarded every day.

[–]redfacedquark 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Were some of the others involved in 'verifying' or at least vouching small blockers?

[–]bermudi86 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Now for closing ceremony I would love to see an old Satoshi account being revived and just post: lol

[–]outerspacerace 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

If Wright were Satoshi, then convincing the world that he's nothing but a conman would be a stroke of genius. What technically capable individual would go after his hidden wealth if they thought he was making the whole thing up? And it might be the fastest way to get away from media attention if the outlets are fearing a repeat of the Dorian incident.

[–]Rassah 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're not supposed to say that out loud

[–]outerspacerace 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Working theory: Wright is Satoshi - one person. He enlists Kleiman's help to secure all of his Bitcoins in an untraceable manner such as a trust that releases the Bitcoins at a set date. Wright tries to destroy all traces of his having ever worked on Bitcoin for fear of retribution from a government. Some files remain that get leaked out by an unknown person - Wright gets scared that his true identity has been revealed. He tries to identify all of the ways his security might have been compromised - potential eyewitnesses such as in 2005, old email correspondences or accounts. This process appears erratic and unusual from the outside.

Wright then sees his way out - keep the momentum going and convince the world that he is but a deceiver. Obfuscate the truth with an apparent hoax. So he says, "Okay guys, you got me, I'm Satoshi the genius. But I can't provide any substantive evidence to support my claims." What does this accomplish?

  • those who are familiar with cryptography will believe he's just a conman and wll be less inclined to dig into his digital life
  • he can let his family and those close to him know that he is actually Satoshi and they will likely believe and support him, think more highly of him while he gets the secret off of his chest
  • governments who may wish to persecute Satoshi will see this fiasco and be confused as to what the heck is actually going on, promoting inaction through bureaucratic inefficiency
  • when the trust releases his Bitcoin back to him, he will have the option of coming out once again and telling all of his doubters that they were wrong, Satoshi was Wright, and again gets an ego boost since Bitcoin has become even more established than it is now

[–]JakoDav 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I believe that Craig==Satoshi, but I doubt the story is that sophisticated.

Craig must be under high emotional pressure. If you've seen his interview video, you'd observed that he's a very delicate (and charming) man.

He's a techy that loves to theorize, design and code, and nothing prepared him for this. Especially not to the waves of hatred in the "community".

After being forcibly outed, he thought that we'd embrace him and respect him for his invention, if he comes forward, but quickly realized that even a block-0 signature won't convince the most noisy members here, who fabricate extreme, illogical conspiracies of why he must be lying.

He just decided not to bother. He stands to lose much more than he gains, and he feels he has no real friends here. He already gave the world much, he owes nothing, to no one.

[–]gizram84 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Where is Gavin? Does he believe he was duped at this point?

Wow... I mean, this was obviously expected, but still. What a disgraceful ending to all this.

Well at least the next week of bitcoin podcasts will be interesting!

[–]746865626c617a 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Am I reading too much into this or does the "And goodbye" sound a little ominous ?

[–]chinawat 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Based on the psychopathic tendencies indicated in his behavior, I think it's unlikely he'd harm himself.

[–]whipowill 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's just a drama queen. Dude is loco.

[–]HolyBits 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

And suddenly it turns out Dorian's the genuine article...

[–]himself_v 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dorian certainly seemed like a more plausible candidate the first time Wright came up.

Now, after Gavin and others have been convinced, Wright seems somewhat more plausible. To convince/fool Gavin and to plan this operation he has to be smart, which is a quality Satoshi had.

[–]mWo12 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

Is it really his website?

[–]kmdr[S,🍰] 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

it's the site everybody was reading as his, and that he never denied being his.

So, good enough for everyday usage

[–]-o-o-o 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

CEO of Bitcoin Mark Karpeles and his cat agreed with Wrights decision.

[–]observerc 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol. So he is OK subjecting himself for being known as a charlatan but not as satoshi. lol

[–]redditbsbsbs 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck you, Craig.

[–]globlee_com 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Damn I was hoping for something more exciting.

[–]whipowill 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

There was no other way for this to end. The guy is nuts.

[–]JeremyGraeme 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

So, that's that. I said wait a week and it'll all become clear, and it took less than 24 hours :D

[–]lifeboatz 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

He non't?

[–]bitmeister 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Apparently someone was in a hurry to be the first to post. Or it's some Aussie lingo.

[–]lifeboatz 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol.. 6 words, and two are misspelled! I'll say goobye now.

[–]whipowill 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This isn't complicated, folks. Dude is a fraud. Cookoo for Cocao Puffs.

[–]jmdugan 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

So is he a scammer then?

How does this scam possibly work to his benefit? At all, ever?

so confused

[–]lifeboatz 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Being Satoshi gets you laid at Porkfest every year.

[–]doobiedoo234 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I am Satoshi but i am afraid to admit it in public. I don't have the courage.

[–]physalisx 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, now fuck off forever you lying cunt.

[–]scotty321 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

World's best con man I have ever seen. Con men play on people's emotions, and Wright knows how to do this perfectly.

[–]1s44c 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Wright didn't get anything but publicity as far as anyone knows. Con men want cash, not publicity.

[–]scotty321 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not necessarily. The incredible documentary Art and Craft follows Mark Landis, an art forger for decades who conned many museums into displaying his forged artworks as the originals. He never wanted any money for his con... he just got a thrill out of it.

[–]lifeboatz 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rumor (and Twitter) seem to indicate that someone got to stick their dick in crazy, claiming to be Satoshi. So there's that...

[–]joinfish 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know, he was trying to do a "Bitcoin, I am you Father!" impression on the Star Wars day for extra effect. :)

[–]DIGITAL-not-Virtual 9ポイント10ポイント  (19子コメント)

I still think the most likely scenario is that CSW is one half Satoshi. He came up with the idea. But it was DK who then coded the software itself, and who took the private keys with him to the grave.

It seems that CSW is smart, and capable of coming up with the Bitcoin idea, but he's also suffers human weaknesses. And one of his weaknesses is flakiness and unable to handle attention. He knows this and it's probably the reason he chose to stay anonymous initially.

I think Jon Matonis is right when he says there'll never be another Satoshi. That's because CSW and DK were Satoshi. And one of them is dead, and the other is now discredited.

[–]bermudi86 6ポイント7ポイント  (8子コメント)

who took the private keys with him to the grave

If you believe this then how do you explain the process of convincing GA and the press? His secret signing ceremonies was how this whole thing started but somehow you believe him? Ridiculous.

[–]KoKanseiModerator - r/btc International Dispatch 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

CW deliberately tricking GA et al. and CW being part of the Satoshi team are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

[–]bermudi86 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

What evidence do we have to support the "Satoshi team" theory?

[–]austenten 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Quite a bit actually.

[–]bermudi86 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

the documents CSW leaked? Ha!

[–]austenten 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, CW is not wound too tight, and he probably "leaked" information about himself last year to Wired and Gizmodo, but that doesn't mean he is not at least part of the SN persona. Did you even read the article I linked to?

[–]skarphace 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you believe this then how do you explain the process of convincing GA and the press? His secret signing ceremonies was how this whole thing started but somehow you believe him? Ridiculous.

I could sit down with some press, run traceroute, then tell them I just downloaded more RAM and most of them would have no clue what I was actually doing.

Since nothing was public(and what was was unconvincing), and no vetting of any of the people that viewed the signing, you can only come to the conclusion of bullshit without more information.

[–]kmdr[S,🍰] 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

and CSW has plotted this since the beginning to somehow try and profit from the "half-convinction" that he could get, at the expenses of Gavin et al.

I think Jon Matonis is right when he says there'll never be another Satoshi. That's because CSW and DK were Satoshi. And one of them is dead, and the other is discredited crazy.

FTFY

[–]chinawat 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wonder if CSW is normally just a low-level psychopath, but the ATO's putting the screws to him have dialed up the crazy.

[–]BitcoinFuturist 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

There's really zero evidence that he had any involvement at all though. It's possible he and kleiman were nothing more than early miners.

[–]chinawat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed, if anything there's just smoke, much of which could've been planted by CSW himself. However, the stash of "hacked" emails Gizmodo purportedly possesses seems extensive. Assuming CSW was the only one in on the hoax, it would've taken him a while to produce it all.

[–]gizram84 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

there'll never be another Satoshi

Good. Satoshi has reached a mythical reputation level. No human could ever live up to that. I want to tell my future kids about the story of the world's greatest super hero, Satoshi Nakamoto; not tell them the story of a reasonably smart Australian cryptographer who probably has a few undiagnosed mental health problems.

[–]Btcmeltdown 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Load of horseshit

Bitcoin is to prevent horseshit like this, but retards like you still love to believe in authorative figure.

[–]carpetjuice 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's just your wishful thinking. And he got you into his scam. You GOT FOOLED.

[–]redfacedquark 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

it was DK who ... took the private keys with him to the grave.

It seems that CSW is smart

But not smart enough to know he would need the keys? OK then.

[–]Avirunes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The most likely scenario is that he is a con man, honestly all these theories of Kleiman being involved only hold credit if Craig actually had any proof tying him to Satoshi. So far his only proof was planted blog posts that had the date changed for reporters to find, fake message and private proof provided to select people when those people themselves admit it easily could have been faked through a fake wifi node downloading a fake client.

[–]usethisdamnit 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What a fucking wanker!

[–]timetraveller57 2ポイント3ポイント  (8子コメント)

I now have very little faith that Bitcoin will be rescued from blockstreamcore and their corporate takeover. And I feel for Craig/Satoshi that he must have received some severe threats for him to react like this.

Redshields have won (for now), pat yourself on the back if you had a part in that.

edit: re-reading Craig's goodbye post.. sounds like he's already been taken out and someone else put that up (probably not, but could be, the UK has its fair share of top assassins, just ask Dr.Kelly.. oh wait, you can't, Blair did him over with a wetjob)

If Ulbricht had torture & death threats to his family for 300k btc (from 'rogue' FBI agents), what do you think Craig had?

[–]willsteel 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Too dramatic. Bip109 is still active. Classic, Gavin and Jeff are still there. The need for bigger blocks is still there. Just wait until everyone realizes that blocks keep full even with SegWit which is just a useful optimization.

[–]CydeWeys 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well I've made some money off the bets, so I'm happy with the outcome :D

[–]chinawat 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm sorry, but without better explanations from CSW for the sneaky shit he's pulled repeatedly, this is tin foil hat territory.

[–]ForkiusMaximus 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Luckily the demand for more capacity won't go away, so the dynamics remain the same: Core either raises blocksize, pulls a scaling miracle out of its hat, or loses market share to Classic/BU/etc.

[–]chinawat 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Core either raises blocksize, pulls a scaling miracle out of its hat, or...

The erosion of Bitcoin's first-mover advantage accelerates.

[–]vashtiii 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Username doesn't check out. :c

Can you at least tell us what the BTC price will be in a year?

[–]usrn 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If progress depends on a single individual then the whole thing is fucked.

[–]paulh691 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

as we expected he isn't, so he can't

[–]dskloet 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

And why is the whole page an image instead of text?

Edit: Oh, now it's text. Weird.

[–]CydeWeys 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Because his web design skills are bad. It's easier to get something to look like exactly what you want in Photoshop, which is all WYSIWYG, versus having to put it together with CSS and HTML.

[–]bitmeister 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

True. The website was really just a huge picture collage of Wright.

[–]emlodnaor 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't have the knowledge, but maybe someone should check the picture for Steganography??

[–]redfacedquark 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The man was hard-coding in nbsp entities, he's no web dev.

[–]americanpegasusPA 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Saying "Sorry" is all very well but in this case it is a very very great shame that he didn't say "Sorry For Your Loss".

Can you imagine the scene over at /r/buttcoin if he had done so !

[–]ace- 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

the translation of this blog post over there is fucking great.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/4i00ba/seems_to_be_the_hardest_word/

[–]americanpegasusPA 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's from r/bitcoins old friend /u/7badgers who was seen in the early days along with u/darkwings_08 as virtually the only 2 guys (I assume both male) who were calling bitcoin a ponzi, scam, bigger fool game,bagholders game etc and were both very vocal in trying to warn ordinary "investors" to be careful as they would lose money. Approx 4-5 months before The Goxxing IIRC.

Of course later on /u/7badgers was banned from r/bitcoin and was pretty well only ever found in r/buttcoin. But he was later banned from there too although he subsequently resurfaced as u/sietemeles as an alt ID.

[–]CourseHeroRyan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reminds me of that guy that got tons of attention from the jailbreaking community for being able to jailbreak 9.3 2-3 months ago, but could never provide proof and 'sold the jailbreak to the Chinese.'

Sure buddy. It is just sad these likely fake events get so much proof when there is a key piece of evidence missing, and it shouldn't be reported until then.

[–]michaelmclees 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Another one bites the dust.

[–]ace- 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

sigh. the train wreck has finally come to a halt. at least I learned a lot from this experience

[–]trancephorm 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

first of all, is that surely wright's domain? secondly... i got an impression that he actually says he is satoshi but refuses to give proof (but he has it), because he can't manage to be satoshi in this world. i'm still a bit confused, yet i do think he is not satoshi.

[–]MorrMorris 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Goodbye 'satoshi' this is retarded seriously.

[–]garoththorp 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe one interpretation is that he gained some moral fiber and decided he's not strong enough to continue trying to deceive millions of people with flimsy PR maneuvers

[–]xd1gital 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am really wonder what is in the NDA! By not signing or proving he is what he said, will he broke any term in the NDA?

[–]akaorenji 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

ELI5 What is this about, and why is everyone so upset?

[–]kmdr[S,🍰] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Bitcoin is electronic cash. There is currently a war between bitcoin supporters about the future of bitcoin This guy said he was Satoshi, the misterious inventor of Bitcoin (and owner of about $400 million in bitcoin), and said he would prove it He also said he would side with one side of the war. This created huge expectations in everybody At the end, he said "nah, I'm sorry, I won't prove it"

[–]akaorenji 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks, really good explanation.

Dang, I would be upset too. If it's not too much getting into, what "side" was he siding with?

[–]kanaarrt 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Douchenozzle

[–]a7437345 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Value of provided entertainment is in the $millions.

[–]carpetjuice 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck off already.

[–]MyDixieWreck4BTC 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Wikileaks put their reputation on the line by calling him a hoax before this message was published. Does that imply there's a chance Wikileaks knows who the real Satoshi group is?

[–]vashtiii 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

I sincerely doubt it. Julian isn't noted for holding back on the Wikileaks twitter, and he's had it in for Wright since at least 1996.