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Outside News[Serious - Please read] Nation-wide Cultural exchange with /r/iranian date set: June 11th-18th. This is an invitation. Details below. (self.Portland)

f14tomcat85 が 投稿

This message was allowed by the mods

Definition of a cultural exchange: you will create a thread on your sub and our mods will create a thread on our sub. Both of us will sticky the thread and we will exchange various questions and answers regarding our ways of life and about our country. Here is the big list of all the exchanges that we have done so far. Take a look, you might be surprised by whom we have met before.

The mods of /r/AskAnAmerican and /r/iranian have agreed to a national exchange happening in both subreddits from June 11-18.

If you feel that at the end of the day, this post has negative feedback (i.e. NO), then I wish you all a good day. This thread was to see how the reception is by the people of this subreddit. Vox populi.

P.S. If you are confused as to why there are 2 Iranian subreddits, it's because there was a schism and we split because of mod drama. It is best if we do not talk about it hence it might become a burden on us in the long run. /r/iranian is the subreddit that has been doing the cultural exchanges after the split.

Mamnoon (Thank you).

If you believe that this post has enough positive support, then do the following

  1. This is your subreddit and it has it's own rules. The date is far away and the location is in a different subreddit. In order to remind yourselves, discuss on how you plan to remember it. Some mods that I have encountered (and I really mean a lot of mods) have declined to do sticky reminders because it does not go with the rules of their subreddit. Fair.

  2. I encourage you and your fellow statesmen to spread this (x-post) to other subreddits within this state (only). The more Americans we reach, the better. Please share with medium to large subreddits (>1000 subscribers and >6 active users).

Guidelines for this exchange

  1. This subreddit will take no active part in the exchange. It's only between /r/AskAnAmerican and /r/iranian.

  2. /r/AskAnAmerican is where we come to ask questions - /r/iranian is where you will ask yours.

See you there then.

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[–]yashardonnay 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm an Iranian-American living in Portland. AMA.

[–]skivian 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

How do you deal with the ever rising smug levels?

[–]yashardonnay 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I assume you're referencing the Californians...

[–]skivian 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sure. Let's go with that.

[–]UseWhatNameSE 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hay mods could we do a cultural exchange with /r/sanfrancisco plz?

[–]MercuryPDXVancouver 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

HEY! Like Rice-a-Roni? Like Fog? Then get your fabulous ass on over to /r/sanfrancisco!

[–]social_reject_mom 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's called looking in the mirror.

[–]yahoowizard 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'm curious why this in r/Portland. Just trying to see the relevance.

[–]MercuryPDXVancouver 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Don't strain yourself. There isn't any.

It's like if /r/StarWars and /r/StarTrek decided to cross post AMAs to each other's subs, and then posted messages in /r/space to tell people about it.

[–]iamDanger_usBeaverton 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's like if /r/StarWars and /r/StarTrek decided to cross post AMAs to each other's subs

Dude don't even joke... that's how wars get started.

[–]MercuryPDXVancouver 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Frodo is my favorite of all the Ewoks on Deep Space Nine!

[–]f14tomcat85[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you are an interested american, you can join in. No matter where you are from.

[–]FatZombieMamaDowntown[M] 12ポイント13ポイント  (33子コメント)

The mods listened to your proposal and didn't say no because it looked like more discussion was coming, but no one agreed to sticky anything.

  1. This is super spammy. We can tell you don't give a shit about Portland.

  2. I think many of us would like to learn about Iran. Do you have something of substance to tell us? We'll help by asking.

  3. Are you okay with women participating? Because we heard you weren't.

[–]nBob20Pearl 7ポイント8ポイント  (6子コメント)

Oh my god this is a shit show that has nothing to do with Portland, please delete this thread.

[–]ThisDerpForSaleNW District 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are you okay with women participating? Because we heard you weren't.

Wait, what? Where did you hear that? I'd be very surprised if that was the case. How would they even enforce that?

[–]f14tomcat85[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

For 2. Yes. If you are open minded enough, we can share our cultures. We are doing a cultural exchange after all.

[–]f14tomcat85[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (14子コメント)

I did not ask for a sticky for anything. I just asked for a post on portland. And yes, it's all inclusive. I have no idea where you got the notion of discrimination. I am looking for people interested in asking iranians questions that they have longed to ask no mattef where they are from.

[–]salomoncascadeBrentwood-Darlington[M] 4ポイント5ポイント  (13子コメント)

I have no idea where you got the notion of discrimination.

Your brigading comrade, the one with Aryan in his name and owner of /r/The_Jews_Did_This isn't making your argument any better, that's for certain.

[–]f14tomcat85[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (12子コメント)

I don't know who the latter guy is but I am fairly certain that this post is not brigaded. You can check with the admins. I will wait. Oh and before you do anything, it was x-posted to /r/drama by someone else. Could be them?

Otherwise, I don't see the relation between the discrimination and this.

[–]salomoncascadeBrentwood-Darlington 2ポイント3ポイント  (11子コメント)

It's just the one guy, but clearly he came in here in an effort to help you, it seems, and ended up getting in a bickering match.

All I meant by my comment is: apparent discrimination directed at any class isn't painting this thread with a great context.

[–]f14tomcat85[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (10子コメント)

Well, I did not invite him to do anything.

Where did I mention discrimination of any kind?

[–]salomoncascadeBrentwood-Darlington 1ポイント2ポイント  (9子コメント)

You're being deliberately obtuse and I'm not going to spend all day explaining away your semantics.

/u/AryanBrothelhood goes around implying he's somehow involved:

Why on earth would women not be allowed to participate on our cultural exchanges???????????????????????

And then you back him up:

He is. He's an Iranian on my subreddit.

He is very clearly a user with some angsty discrimination opinions. The entire intent of my original comment was simply to bring that to your attention so you might not encounter this issue somewhere else you're posting.

[–]f14tomcat85[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

Well he's not been posting anywhere but on this particular post, firstly.

Second, i still do not understand how my comment and me backing him up suggest that we are discriminating against anybody.

We aren't. We never were.

[–]salomoncascadeBrentwood-Darlington 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

We aren't. We never were.

Both your and the other user's post history directly contradict this statement. For fucks' sake, man, he owns /r/The_Jews_Did_This and his username is a psuedo nazi reference.

[–]aryan_throaway 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

In his defense, I'm half-persian (born in USA) and my middle name is Aryan, but I'm not a nazi (and I live in the Portland area). Aryan is just a first name in Iran. The female form is Arya (before GoT).

Of course, I have found it easier to not ever tell anyone my middle name, and since my first name is American, it's all good. But having such a middle name is also why I joined TSA Pre, so I don't get hassled anymore at the airport because of the lack of cultural understanding, like in your post.

[–]f14tomcat85[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

My post history mentions that?

Where?

You want to plant false evidence on me?

[–]MercuryPDXVancouver 9ポイント10ポイント  (15子コメント)

The mods of /r/AskAnAmerican and /r/iranian have agreed to a national exchange happening in both subreddits from June 11-18

Perhaps you should consider buying an ad instead of spamming?

[–]f14tomcat85[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (14子コメント)

Spamming

The reddit admins are aware of this thing. Why don't you try them.

[–]MercuryPDXVancouver 5ポイント6ポイント  (13子コメント)

The admins don't care how the mods of individual subs run them, and have better things to worry about.

If you want to advertise your sub, buy an Ad.... like /r/Rubberducks, /r/oldnews, /r/Fixedmovies, /r/needamod, /r/mindpainting and many of the other subs that have stuff in the sidebar. =============>

[–]f14tomcat85[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (12子コメント)

  1. I took permission before posting

  2. I am not advertising a sub. I am advertising an event.

Plus, I need americans only. No contamination from non-Americans would be preferable. We also don't want extra drama from any other members looking to comment and eat popcorn, if you know what I mean.

[–]MercuryPDXVancouver 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

I am not advertising a sub. I am advertising an event.

You're advertising an event that's happening in another sub, which is pretty much the same as advertising another sub.

[–]f14tomcat85[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

If I did not come here, would you have heard about it?

No. So I did my job by spreading the news.

I'm sure that even in the most unsuspecting subs there are people interested in this event. Right here is an example. this post is not even stickied and it has 11 upvotes (at least). That's 11 people interested unless those upvotes have another meaning to it. We have 20 state subs already onboard.

You may not be interested in Iran at all, but I assure you if you had an exchange with Croatia let's say, you wouldn't have heard about it. Wait, /r/AskAnAmerican did have an exchange with them! Did you hear about it? I doubt it.

Oh the questions you wanted to ask but couldn't. /r/LosAngeles had an exchange with /r/Denmark. Heard it? probably not.

You guys should be vigilant, if not, proactive about things like this. The Socialization between the two nations fuels curiosity and opens boundaries. You have no idea.

To sign it off, we have exchanged with Israel and Saudi Arabia with less than half of the drama that we are having in this sub alone. I have provided the links above, go check.

CC: /u/FatZombieMama

[–]MercuryPDXVancouver 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's four great subreddit communities you may not have ever heard about that I have just told you about!

Isn't that awesome?!?!?!?

Look at me! I can spread news too!

[–]MercuryPDXVancouver -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

HEY! Like Women? Like Soccer? Then join other Women's Soccer fans on /r/WomensSoccer!

* Root for your team and learn about new teams!

* Converse with other fans of Women's Socccer!

* Read great posts about Women's Soccer around the world!

Be sure to cross post this blatant advertisement to subs where other people may like women and might like soccer!

If you don't like Women or don't like soccer, then I wish you all a good day

Guidelines

  1. Don't post about Women's Soccer in here. Only post about Women's Soccer in /r/WomensSoccer.

  2. It you want to talk about Portland's own Women's Soccer Team the Portland Thorns, post in /r/Thorns.

[–]ThisDerpForSaleNW District 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Dude, what the fuck? That isn't anything remotely like this post. I mean. . . I know this place can be hostile to outsiders (and even our own), but this seems needlessly antagonistic. Is there something going on here that I'm missing?

[–]MercuryPDXVancouver 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I know this place can be hostile to outsiders (and even our own), but this seems needlessly antagonistic.

Spam is spam is spam. OP doesn't give one lick about Portland or any of the other 170 subs he's posted this same message to.

He's here to advertise his event, which is going on in his subreddit, and that's it.

[–]ThisDerpForSaleNW District 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Apparently the mods gave him permission. Which is good enough for me.

But even if it isn't good enough, there's no need to be so childishly antagonistic about it. You're making us look like truly awful people. And we do a decent job of that as it is.

[–]Squishygosplat 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

So are you saying no one from outside north and south America can be a part of the cultural exchange?

[–]f14tomcat85[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

No one outside of America can be part of the exchange. The USA that is.

[–]Squishygosplat 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

So you don't want American's you want US citizens.

[–]f14tomcat85[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anyone that lives in the USA.

[–]globaljustinBuckman 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I really like this idea, hope it's not a bunch of BS

[–]f14tomcat85[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just show up come June 11th and you'll see.

[–]ThisDerpForSaleNW District 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

This sounds like a potentially interesting idea (or a potentially interesting trainwreck). Sorry that you're getting some truly nasty feedback from a few folks here, OP This sub, or a vocal minority of it, can be very hostile to outsiders. Or those it perceives as outsiders. Or those who are insiders, but who don't toe the party line. Or, well, really some people here are just pretty nasty to anyone for no really good reason.

I suspect this comment will invoke their ire too. Anyway, thanks for the heads up.

[–]f14tomcat85[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Thanks. I have met a lot of these types of people on my Journey to spread this info. It has grown somewhat numb to me.

And I can understand the frustration. True, this sub is not going to be doing anything in particular but I have a firm belief that there are people interested in this but have not heard about it and that's what I am here to do.

Or because they hate my government, they are venting their anger on me by trying to troll me out of this place.

Anyway, the exchange is still on. See you on June 11th.

[–]MercuryPDXVancouver 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Or because they hate my government, they are venting their anger on me by trying to troll me out of this place.

Just to be clear, I don't hate you or your government.

I am annoyed that you consider your engagement with our sub, and many of the other 170+ subs you have posted this exact same or similar message in, as a great place to to drop an advertisement on and leave.

Regardless of all your good intentions, it's spamming.

Editing to add: If you would like to reach all of Reddit the right way, buy an ad that appears in the sidebar or a sponsored post that appears at the top of selected subs... just like everyone else.

[–]ThisDerpForSaleNW District 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jesus fuck, enough. I think he gets your point. I think everyone gets your point. Good lord.

[–]MercuryPDXVancouver 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Since it's apparently now OK to cross promote other subs that have nothing to do with Portland:

HEY! Got a phone? Like phone games? Then join the fight against the dreaded Blackguard on /r/BoomBeach!

* Learn strategies to defeat Lt. Hammerman, Dr. T, and Commander GearHeart!

* Join up with an Official Reddit Task Force, or recruit your own on our brother sub /r/BoomBeachRecruit!

* Complain about how the Mega Crab wasn't that great the second time around!

Be sure to cross post this blatant advertisement to subs where other people may have phones and might like games!

If you don't have a phone or don't like phone games, then I wish you all a good day

Guidelines

  1. Don't post about Boom Beach in here. Only post about Boom Beach in /r/BoomBeach.

  2. You can only recruit for your non-official taskforce in /r/BoomBeachRecruit

LET'S BOOM THOSE BEACHES JOHNSON!

[–]f14tomcat85[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's fine. You can vent. My job here is done. My message is sent. You can report this to whoever you want.

[–]MercuryPDXVancouver -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's fine. You can vent.

Great! Glad I have your permission!

[–]BundleOfHissSunnyside 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sounds interesting, I'll check it out.

[–]doctor_boofusWilkes 2ポイント3ポイント  (26子コメント)

Will Jews be allowed, seeing as they are agents of the Zionist world conspiracy?

"Western countries allow no freedom of expression, which they claim to advocate, with regard to the myth of the massacre of Jews known as the holocaust, and nobody in the West enjoys the freedom of expression to deny it or raise doubts about it." -Khamenei

Boo-hoo, I can't be a holocaust denier in Germany.

[–]f14tomcat85[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (25子コメント)

Yeah, Jews are allowed. I don't see why not.

[–]doctor_boofusWilkes 4ポイント5ポイント  (24子コメント)

Well I, a Jew, wasn't allowed a visa to see my Iranian family members, so I figured I would ask.

[–]ThisDerpForSaleNW District 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm pretty sure this guy doesn't work for the Iranian government.

[–]doctor_boofusWilkes 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Then he probably shouldn't defend the practice.

[–]ThisDerpForSaleNW District 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Did he? Somewhere in his comment history, I assume?

[–]f14tomcat85[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (19子コメント)

If you have an israeli stamp or you are an Israeli citizen, then you are not allowed into Iran. Otherwise, Iran is home to the second biggest Jewish population in the Mid-east. http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/02/19/387265766/irans-jews-its-our-home-and-we-plan-to-stay

[–]doctor_boofusWilkes 1ポイント2ポイント  (18子コメント)

If you have an israeli stamp or you are an Israeli citizen, then you are not allowed into Iran.

So I'm not allowed to visit relatives in Israel and also see the ones that live([d], they emigrated in the 90s because of the fear of violence) in Iran?

Iran is home to the second biggest Jewish population in the Mid-east.

vs.

There are 8,756 Jews in the country, according to the census. That was fewer than the 20,000 figure previously estimated.

Portland literally has five times the number of Jews in one city than in your entire country. I wonder why that might be.

[–]f14tomcat85[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (17子コメント)

I think you are a bit illiterate.

Otherwise, Iran is home to the second biggest Jewish population in the Mid-east.

there.

So I'm not allowed to visit relatives in Israel and also see the ones that live([d], they emigrated in the 90s because of the fear of violence) in Iran?

Sad truth. Sometimes life is harsh and nobody can do jack about it. That's me included.

[–]salomoncascadeBrentwood-Darlington[M] 2ポイント3ポイント  (12子コメント)

More feedback for wherever you post these in the future:

I think you are a bit illiterate.

This is a small violation of Rule #1. Please read and abide by all rules you're trying to ask for advertising in. I expected to hold you to the highest of standards since you are a visitor.

[–]f14tomcat85[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (11子コメント)

Well, it's a bit of a hypocrisy considering how your community acted towards me before that comment was even made.

[–]salomoncascadeBrentwood-Darlington 1ポイント2ポイント  (10子コメント)

As I stated in my last comment, I expect to hold you to the highest standard.

edit: Further, yes, /u/MercuryPDX is being pretty hard on you. But he's not throwing insults your way as far as I've seen anywhere, which is what I reprimanded you for.

Your thread with /u/doctor_boofus was pretty mild.

I don't really see anyone else doing anything other than asking questions, albeit facetious ones.

[–]f14tomcat85[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

I expect your community to hold the highest standard first and foremost.

[–]f14tomcat85[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

You being mod and seeing that this is going nowhere but downwards, you can lock the thread.

I believe that it's time before any one goes over the tipping point and this ending up in more drama related subs. Just a thought.

I believe that my work here is done.

[–]doctor_boofusWilkes 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Otherwise, Iran is home to the second biggest Jewish population in the Mid-east.

Turkey has, on the low end, 17,000 Jews. So you're still wrong.

[–]f14tomcat85[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

3rd largest. Which is still a shocker considering Iran is "supposed" to prosecute Jews according to your media.

Iran even has Jews in its parliament.

[–]doctor_boofusWilkes 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

prosecute Jews

You must be illiterate, the word is "persecute"

[–]f14tomcat85[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Aha! The ol' one mistake makes you an idiot thing.

At least we are on the same page now.

[–]hkms -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe Iran had strict policies regarding unaccompanied mentally handicapped people? Or were you accompanied but still refused visa?

[–]QuantumRealismDowntown 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ooo ooo. A little bit of context about the whole "Death to America" chant. Who started that? Does it work as well in Farsi as it does in Arabic? Are they taking about us as individuals or our excesses and iniquities as a whole?

[–]CatTrumpOld Town Chinatown -1ポイント0ポイント  (11子コメント)

Iranian women are now denied basic human rights and your government has imposed draconian punishments including execution on Iranian citizens who are homosexuals. Why are you doing those things?

[–]YoshimiTheCat 2ポイント3ポイント  (10子コメント)

Did you read the post?

[–]CatTrumpOld Town Chinatown 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

Just sharing my question now.

[–]YoshimiTheCat 3ポイント4ポイント  (8子コメント)

Cool, just didn't want you to miss a better opportunity to have it answered.

[–]CatTrumpOld Town Chinatown -1ポイント0ポイント  (7子コメント)

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad already did ""We don't have homosexuals, like in your country"

[–]YoshimiTheCat 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

Ah, so you're just being a douche?

[–]CatTrumpOld Town Chinatown 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

Critical of iranian human rights

[–]ThisDerpForSaleNW District 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

There's a way to do it without being a douche.

[–]CatTrumpOld Town Chinatown 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'll stop not being a douche when they stop hanging gay men.

[–]ThisDerpForSaleNW District 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Curious grammar aside, that's a pretty immature and ineffective stance. If you want anyone to take you seriously, maybe don't act like a child?