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Unpopular opinions - May (self.reddevils)

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[–]DarmianLVG 48ポイント49ポイント  (10子コメント)

I want Fellaini to stay. Time and time again he has performed when it matters and has won games for us. Sure, his football isn't the prettiest, but in several games he has offered us exactly what we needed.

[–]tammodiruud van nistelrooy tra la la la la 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not to mention he really gives a shit about the team. I've never been happier when Fellaini scores. You can see what it means to him to play for United.

[–]DarmianLVG 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. It'll be these passionate players who bring us back to the top.

[–]ijd17Uncle Ant 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I actually agree with this

[–]LDN2016 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

He's put in more match winning goals, big game performances and iconic moments in the last 2 years than all of Basti, Mata, Ander and Blind combined.

He's got serious limitations but I think he's a fucking fantastic tactical option. He totally bullies Matic and Yaya every single match he plays agaisnt them. He's often the difference against physical teams like S'oton, West Ham and Watford.

[–]silkie_blondoKing Dave 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Bit unfair to Blind. Been one of our most consistent performers since signing.

[–]tamasuperstarDe Gea 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm a big fan of Fellaini but it's not fair on Basti either.

I'd say it only properly applies to Mata.

[–]obadetonaHerrera na na naaaa 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

The problem is not that Fellaini doesn't do a great job once in a while. It's that there are players out there who can do the same job more consistently and more.

[–]DarmianLVG 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't disagree with that. There are times when I have been disappointed to see Fellaini starting, but there are games that absolutely scream for him. I think he'll he missed against West Ham next week.

[–]designbynuff 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

+1

[–]ManUChao7Memphis -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Renato is done deal Bastian will be back next season so I don't think there is room for Fellaini. We need a way better CAM if we are going to stick with 4-2-3-1 formation and I just can't see big Fella staying with us.

[–]tammodiruud van nistelrooy tra la la la la 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

19 comments, 2 points.

My unpopular opinion is that we should vote on threads that we comment in.

[–]matthew1955 33ポイント34ポイント  (5子コメント)

For his and our sake, Mata needs to be sold.

[–]Launch_a_poo 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is a very very popular opinion as is the trend with unpopular opinion threads

Worth mentioning I don't entirely agree with it, that is my unpopular opinion

[–]YoungJumpWazza[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

100% agree, he's not good enough and at this point he's holding us back. I know he's a great person but he isn't good enough to be starting for us anymore and I wouldn't want him to ride our bench

[–]koba-311 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep, we need a better number ten and a right winger if we want to challenge for the title. Mata isn't a impact sub either (the Leicester game as the recent example). He cannot run at tired players like Memphis can or can cause damage like Fellaini with his physicality.

[–]bluebeaver123 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

But, who do we sell him to though? He is not good enough for the top European clubs, who can afford his high wages and on the other hand, don't think he will be willing to take a wage cut and move to a lesser team.

[–]thecricketnerdYoung 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He could easily go to La Liga this summer and rack up 25 assists next season.

[–]D1794Viva Ronaldo 23ポイント24ポイント  (26子コメント)

I don't think there is anything wrong with our board.

[–]Mustard93 12ポイント13ポイント  (9子コメント)

Haha go on then, I'll bite. Reasons? (other than you don't want to be fired!).

[–]DatGuyRichMartial 14/12. DAMN SON 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

For a start it made no sense to sack LVG in December

[–]tammodiruud van nistelrooy tra la la la la 5ポイント6ポイント  (7子コメント)

I get you might have disagreed, but "no sense". Really?

I think Van Gaal should have gone in the christmas period. He had shown no progress at all in United's play and the performances were getting worse and top 3 was fading away.

[–]Launch_a_poo 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

We were top of the league in November and you can't be that reactionary and sack a manager a month later. If the BBC are to be beleived we had some form of talks with Mourinho at the start of February. That seems sensible.

[–]tammodiruud van nistelrooy tra la la la la 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

We were top despite our bad performances. It was entirely deceptive.

We had Mourinho rumours all over Xmas. We legit believed he was coming at the start of January.

[–]Launch_a_poo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Even still, I think allowing him two months of poor results (December and January) was the correct decision before making moves towards sacking him.

[–]TudoorsYoung 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Being top despite bad performances goes both ways. When we had Fergie, and we were top despite our poor start, that was probably the best way to gauge we would win the league.

[–]black_squireMartial -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sure you can say it was deceptive now after injuries in December derailed us. Since January we've amassed more points than every team above us except Leicester and Spurs. Bad performances and all. It wasn't deceptive. We were top of the league.

[–]tammodiruud van nistelrooy tra la la la la 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/3yaejv/post_match_thread_stoke_vs_manchester_united/

Here's a post match thread after failing to win in 8 games. You're revising your argument hugely.

[–]black_squireMartial -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not sure what I'm looking for. But the point is new information is now available. We had a bad run. We know it was just a bad run because evidence since then points to a team that should be in top 3 of the league based on results since then.

[–]ijd17Uncle Ant 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

people are downvoting an unpopular opinion in an unpopular opinion thread, lol. In regards to your comment, why do you have that opinion?

[–]D1794Viva Ronaldo 19ポイント20ポイント  (6子コメント)

Well, for starters, our board isn't just 1 person. Our board is not solely Ed Woodward, which a lot of people seem to think...

Whilst our board is made up with a large amount of the Glazer family, and they riddled us with the insane debt, are they currently holding us back? I'd argue not. You hear all the time that our board are wank. But then you get the news that we'll be getting over £100m a season from kit sponsors alone. Which will allow us to buy players who we all like. Who set about achieving those deals? The board.

Ed Woodward was covered in glory when signing Di Maria, Falcao, Basti, Schneiderlin, Memphis (to name a few). And he doesn't make ONE decision (Admittedly, a decision i want to happen) and all of a sudden the entire board is inept?! Give me a break. I've said it before and i'll say it again. We have NO idea what goes on at boardroom level. We get what the media feeds us, which could be total bollocks. How do we know the board haven't already decided to sack Louis? How do we know the board haven't decided on Jose already, but want to give him a fresh season to begin? We don't. We get a quote from the media saying LVG might not be sacked and it's 'our board are shit bla bla bla'

A shit board would allow LVG to stay for a decade playing the way we do. Our board is not shit. The blame from LVG's failures are spreading. I see people blaming the board regarding our transfer policy...WHAT?! They get told by the manager who to buy, and they fork out for him. A shit board would have shook their heads at £36m for Martial and he'd have gone to Juventus or something. They pull it out of the bag time and time again. If it doesn't work out, it aint their fault, it's LVG's.

Yes LVG should have been replaced a while ago. That was a mistake. We just need to see what happens in the summer. If we let Jose go and continue with LVG's boring style of play, they can come under scrutiny. For now, nah.

[–]murica_sauceVidić 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Great post. I would add to that logic one other detail - when LvG arrived, the majority of people lauded the board for a great choice in manager: one with a history of 'reinventing squads' that had just taken the Dutch team to the 3rd place game while playing fun-to-watch football and getting good performances out of his players, who was renowned for bringing along young talent.

Hindsight is 20/20, and everyone is entitled to their opinion regarding LvG's performance since then - but most people seemed to agree at the time that LvG was a good signing.

[–]WhovianMoakSchweinsteiger 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

To add to this, I think we are ignoring a few factors that got us to this point.

Fergie leaving required a huge restructuring of the club as a whole. His way of doing things and the singular power he had left when he did. So it was inevitable that major changes to the club itself would be reflected on the pitch. Rebuilding is a shitty term, but for lack of a better one; the clubs structure is being redefined on all levels. It takes time. The board will likely never, nor should it, cede that much power to a manager again. There needs to be a mutual relationship. (for all we know, this is why they keep LVG around. They may have bought into his 3-yr plan and they plan to see it out, who knows)

If we can accept that to be true(I could be wrong), it happened at a bad time. The recent influx of money into the rest of the league changed the power dynamics of the league. I heard a quote to the effect of "The top powers hiccuped and it allowed a Leicester to happen." No disrespect to them at all, but the top 4 teams all have been pretty complacent in transfers and hires for the past few years. The new money is bound to make low-table teams more likely to put together a squad that can challenge the top teams. The league is changing and we better figure out how to adapt.

tl;dr: I don't think the board is inept either, I think they are just figuring out the best way to adapt to a new team culture and league landscape. I accept that it takes time, but fuck its hard to watch sometimes.

[–]designbynuff 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I didn't see this before making my previous comment.

The current board at the club had very little to do with the debt, so they can't really be blamed for that. They've done an ok job of handling it while allowing us to be competitive in football terms—I say "ok" because we've actually done much better than expected thanks to Fergie's genius and the commercial prowess of folks like Woodward. In light of those facts, we could and possibly should have attacked the debt more aggressively in the last few years, and paid it off completely.

Obviously, the late Mr. Glazer and family would have had to pocket a bit less in dividend for that to happen, but it would have been the right decision considering the continuing economic uncertainty. A smaller payoff now and no debt is always the best option if there's a chance of another recession happening and that debt getting worse.

This is probably the only thing the board could have done better, and to be honest I'm not sure whether the rest of the board could outvote Malcolm and sons anyway. So maybe it wasn't even their fault.

Neither of the Sirs are active Directors as far as I can tell, their roles are more ambassadorial/advisory. Yes, they have influence, but that doesn't translate directly to decision making.

Typically, Things like hiring/firing managers are executive-level responsibilities, not board-level. Woodward is the executive vice-chair, meaning he's in both camps. This is a brand new model for United, and seems designed to give the board more hands-on involvement, which is kind of scary as they aren't supposed to act as employees of the club.

[–]manudevil7Beckham 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I actually agree with you. Does Ed Woodward deserve blame for not sacking LvG during our horrible run in December? Absolutely.

However, I think Ed Woodward deserves praise as well. He has adjusted the schedule to fit LvG's needs, especially pre-season. It would make more financial sense for us to play more pre-season game, however, Woodward has put aside the additional money generated to fit LvG's needs.

His success on the commercial side is probably the best in the world. He's a savage. Nothing more needs to be said here.

I think if the board comes under fire, then Charlton and SAF deserve a lot of blame. I would love to hear what SAF thinks when LvG is telling fans their expectations are "too high."

SAF and Charlton should be sacked, if the board refuses to appoint Mourinho in the summer. Also, I am sick of SAF using his former players that are now in the media to convey this "pro-LvG" message. It's pathetic.

[–]tammodiruud van nistelrooy tra la la la la -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Our board is not solely Ed Woodward, which a lot of people seem to think

I'm not sure that any user on this sub legitimately thinks that "the board" is just Ed Woodward.

[–]D1794Viva Ronaldo 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Whilst that's probably true...It certainly seems that way! I bet most people slating our board don't even know who's on it.

[–]ManUChao7Memphis 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

If LVG retires this summer and Mourinho walks in, me personally I believe it's done deal and all this circus happened because of journos wanting clicks, then we should give more credit to the board. After SAF retirement and Moyes disaster we bounced back way faster than I expected, especially if we win the FA cup too. Tbh premier league level is low the recent years but they did a great job together with LVG of course bringing some exciting talents and they also gave the chance to our old players and to our youth too.

[–]D1794Viva Ronaldo 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, if Mou walks in, that's our board acting to keep us at the top. A shit board would let this go on for years. A shit board probably wouldn't have sacked Moyes.

[–]spoofexKing Cantona 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

A shit board lets their title winning club win nothing for 10 years and keeps the same manager throughout...

[–]designbynuff 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wouldn't say there is "nothing" wrong with our board, but I don't think the things people often rant about are big issues.

I do worry that it's not a diverse enough board and that there aren't enough "football people" involved. I worry that the fans' interests aren't represented at board level (even if they meet with representatives regularly), and I worry that some of the good community work the club have always done might dry up with every director being from commerce and finance (back to diversity).

BUT... if we're talking about them not sacking the manager, then yeah, I agree.

[–]CalimariaeSolskjaer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I do.

The business people to football people ratio is way too high if you look up the members of the board.

[–]tammodiruud van nistelrooy tra la la la la 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Though despite that I think these past couple of years have been a big eye opener for them

[–]obadetonaHerrera na na naaaa -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Care to explain? I doubt even they would agree.

[–]D1794Viva Ronaldo 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I explained in a reply to another comment

[–]ttjoelkerMemphis 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Realistically, we won't sell Memphis. That would be plain mental.

Memphis is a young player with a load of talent and extreme potential. Forget about all other players, because all players are different. It doesn't matter that Martial found his stride almost immediately and has kept it going. What matters is, we give Memphis the play time he requires and we build him up to be United caliber. Coaches, former teammates, pundits, they all concur that he is a great talent. United know this, I'm sure, and just because a few people want him sold, they won't sell him. It's actually laughable how deluded some of you are.

[–]jazavchar 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

Watching the EL game, and fuck, I absolutely love the way Liverpool are playing...

[–]thesmokethatthundersBeckham 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's too hit or miss for me. I like their pressing and think it's very valuable, I just have my doubts on their ability to do it for a full season. But their directness in attack is a quality I wish we possessed more off.

[–]TheRoonaissance 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We'd have to phase out Rooney, Fellaini, Carrick or Schweinsteiger amongst others.

Liverpool are on the way up, will seriously challenge next year if they add quality depth.

[–]bluebeaver123 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

If we don't finish in top 4, I hope we take the Europa league seriously next season and not just play the kids. It is a great opportunity for a European trophy and also, a great gateway for getting into the CL (Though, I hope we qualify through the league top 4 as well)

[–]ZoidbergTheHeroMartial 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think Memphis has been really good when he has played... especially since that game against Midtjylland. I'll agree he has issue's with tracking back, but going forward I think he offers a massive threat. We know he can cut inside but he can constantly puts in really good balls with left bombing down the flank and always tries something different/creative.

[–]tammodiruud van nistelrooy tra la la la la 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

The issue is that FC Midtjylland are 4th in the Danish league. People want to see performances against bigger teams.

[–]itsandercontrolDarmian 8ポイント9ポイント  (7子コメント)

Memphis is massively overrated by this sub. Lingard has played better than him for the past couple of months and should rightfully keep Memphis out the team.

[–]danskzwag -2ポイント-1ポイント  (6子コメント)

How can you say that when Memphis hasnt played?

[–]itsandercontrolDarmian 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

Ok, whenever Memphis has played, he has been average or a liability. Only good games recently have been Midjytland and Arsenal. Other than that, average or poor, at least Lingard is consistently average and isn't a liability. I like Memphis and I don't think he should be sold but I see why Lingard has been constantly chosen over him.

[–]Huge_Bob_Ross_Fan 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lingard has been consistent, and to be honest he's put in some great performances. He constantly looks to get on the ball and create chances, his linkplay has been good. His main issue is his crossing, which is horrendous. I agree with you.

[–]danskzwag -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

its not fair to judge a player when come on to play 10-15 minutes when were losing, Lingard and Depay are equally rash when defending imo , memphis had a good few games and then he got dropped.

[–]LDN2016 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

The manager's given Memphis way more chances than he deserves. 42 matches, 26 as a starter.

I've never seen a forward at United play worse than him and get this much game time.

[–]danskzwag -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Where have you found that stat also my point still stands

[–]StannisJrScholesy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because Memphis hasn't justified a starting place.

[–]danskzwag 5ポイント6ポイント  (11子コメント)

Fellaini being good in the air is a myth he regularly gets outjumped

[–]doesnt_like_pantsHerrera 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

His heading is pretty shocking for someone his size. It's like he doesn't quite know where to put his head to get the ball to go where he wants it to.

Chest control is insane though as everyone knows.

[–]shinkag -3ポイント-2ポイント  (8子コメント)

Blind having good positional awareness and Darmian being great at defending are myths too. Blind has cost us time and time again while Darmian was made a fool of by several wingers. Darmian is a good defender but not great, having said that I don't think we've seen the best he has to offer.

[–]danskzwag 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

I disagree Blind has been class for us this season.

[–]shinkag 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

He's been good but his positioning has cost us goal after goal, there's absolutely no way to argue otherwise.

[–]danskzwag 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

thats a stretch imo the last stinker he has was against watford

[–]shinkag 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

People have been complaining about him for months and for good reason. For example, 2 of the goals (first and last) against Tottenham were down to him losing his man. I don't know how anyone can deny that quite a few goals are his fault this season, completely loses concentration it seems.

[–]LDN2016 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

He has god awful positioning though.

He's great on the ball but a shocking sense of positioning.

[–]danskzwag 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I dont think its that bad tbh also he roams alot from cb and when he is on the ball players always look for him to get a pass from him

[–]LDN2016 -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Every match there's atleast 3 or 4 instnaces where he bombs forward to tackle, fails, and then Smalling has to defend agaisnt 2 or 3 men alone.

Atleast since Valencia's been back Smalling's had someone else remotely decent next to him to help out.

Our LCB and LB need urgent upgrades.

I actually think Blind's a fine replacement/rotation for Carrick next season (though we need a new metronome). I just don't think he has the intelligence or athleticism to play CB.

[–]danskzwag 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

For your 1st point both our cbs push up way too high for my liking smalling get past the halfway line and shit himself mentally. I cant disagree on Valencias defensive qualities. I cant think of many metronomes and I think can blind can play there but hes also shown he can play cb .

[–]Takley -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean this shouldn't really be unpopular ..

He's "good in the air" in the sense of his size being able to disrupt players when defending , but he's fucking shit at actually heading the ball or winning duels themselves.

[–]danskzwag 6ポイント7ポイント  (18子コメント)

Rooney has been just as bad if not worse than mata at 10

[–]iwillmossonyouRooney 4ポイント5ポイント  (14子コメント)

how? explain this please.

[–]danskzwag -5ポイント-4ポイント  (13子コメント)

He isnt a work horse or a ball winner and he isnt creative Mata will lose the ball but can still play better passes like the one to Martial against Wolfsburg and City . Matas weak physically but rooney isnt creative and stops just as many potential attacks by always looking for the crossfield pass. Rooneys first touch is still shit

[–]imsowitty21 5ポイント6ポイント  (12子コメント)

He isn't a work horse or a ball winner

What?

[–]JayDevilK1993 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Rooney is kind of homeless at the moment in that he was displaced at ST in favour of Martial, then displaced by mata / lingard et. al at 10 and now resides at CM so he can play. It's fine for now due to limited options, but if that position is addressed next window where does he play? Perhaps Smallings new partner?

[–]danskzwag 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

One thing this season has taught me is rooney always wins

[–]JayDevilK1993 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol i learnt that after he was benched by Ferguson then not long after got a new contract and the armband.

[–]danskzwag 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

Bastian is more of a leader than Rooney

[–]LDN2016 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

That's just plain ridiculous. Basti looks absolutley lost on the pitch like Gerrard in his last season.

[–]danskzwag -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

Not really he just does what hes told he gets in positions where he cant get pressed and recycles the ball, carrick has been lost

[–]LDN2016 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Carrick's our best midfielder by a mile. The gulf in quality between him & Basti is absolutley enormous.

Basti runs around a bit but is poor on the ball and has an awful passing range.

[–]Parasars 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh please. Carrick can't find a forward pass for the life of him when he actually faces a good team. He's fucking AWFUL when he's pressed and easily loses the ball under pressure. Good midfields run right by him, he's too slow to make tackles and has to rely on positional sense that won't cut it if we ever make it back to the CL. I've always had the opinion that Carrick will be fine for premier league games and cup ties but when we get back into Europe and target CL like this subreddit loves to bring up time and time again, he won't cut it as usual. You massively overrate Carrick.

[–]danskzwag -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nope Carrick is so bad defensively and his attacking passes havent been all that special, Bastians role is to recycle and whenever we play with Carrick it looks like he has more freedom than our other midfielders.

[–]TudoorsYoung -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's unpopular then there's wrong.

[–]LDN2016 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

Valencia, Carrick, Rooney, Fellaini, Rashford and Lingard have all outperformed Darmian, Rojo, Morgan, Ander, Mata and Memphis.

Martial, Shaw and maybe Blind are the only players we've bought that have shown they're good enough for a title winning team.

I think if we listened to most of this sub's opinions about our old guard and academy products we'd be 10th right now instead of 5th.

I still think they need replacing but I'm only willing to move Carrick out of the starting XI if you can bring in someone as good as Modric or Veratti. Not someone as good as Morgan. I'm happy to move Valencia out of the team for Carvajal, not for Darmian. I'm happy to move Lingard out of the team if we buy Griezmann, not to play Memphis. I'm happy to move Rooney on for Kroos or Vidal, not for Ander or Mata.

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I think too many people have a mentality of change for change's sake even if it's not an improvement. I think all of that old guard needs upgrading, I just have much higher standards for what kind of players constitutes an upgrade on them.

[–]arron77 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You really fucking love Lingard, mentioned in most your posts

Do you seriously think we are getting any of Modric, Veratti or Carvajal?

Griezmann is a forward now, not a RW

[–]danskzwag -4ポイント-3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Thats not really fair as LVG has clear favourites

[–]black_squireMartial 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Clear favourites ?

[–]danskzwag 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I should have added imo. Rooney can have bad games and walk straight back in the team . He can somehow also walk right back in regardless of match fitness. If fellaini has a bad game it doesnt matter if its Mata or Ander they are benched for long periods. You could say were having the same problem right now with Rojo. Its also weird how when Fellaini was coming back after injury he somehow played against liverpool in europa when he was clearly unfit

[–]mu_37Schneiderlin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

why are people downvoting? are you that blind? it takes people like Herrera and more recently Varela,TMF ONE mistake to be benched to oblivion.do you really not see that?

[–]danskzwag 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Our most senior players like Carrick and Rooney have been our worst

[–]Huge_Bob_Ross_Fan 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

2016 Rooney has been one of our best players, he's been quality on the ball. Earlier on in the season he was awful, but I think the change in system has helped a lot.

Carrick has been poor in some games, but he played very well against Arsenal and Man City. I think we need to look for a proper replacement for him, but I disagree with the notion he has been one of our worst players.

[–]danskzwag 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I disagree in midfield he is average and just plays the same cross field ball he doesnt have the positioning and we have better players in that position. Carrick leg have completely gone he is so bad defensively and his attacking passing has been ok but nothing special

[–]danskzwag 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Rojo seems like the argentine phil jones rash injury prone and a poor full back

[–]LDN2016 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

I've never seen him put in a performance as high as peak Jones and I'm not a fan of Jones at all.

Even at his best, Rojo looks bang average.

[–]danskzwag -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Peak jones was a while back imo, rojo is jones without the athleticism he had a alright 1st season as a ball playing cb but hes been shit this season.

[–]LDN2016 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

rojo is jones without the athleticism

exactly.

[–]tammodiruud van nistelrooy tra la la la la 3ポイント4ポイント  (16子コメント)

Memphis shouldn't be sold this Summer. I know he's had an underwhelming year but I really think he needs more time. He clearly has talent. We need more patience with youth.

[–]yiyiyiyiHerrera 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Selling him would be nuts. You might as well give him another year to see if he can kick on. If he does then we've potentially got a world class player. If he doesn't we don't lose anything by keeping him a year.

[–]knoxisbackDe Gea 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

This isn't unpopular, more 50-50.

[–]AveLuciferGiggsy! 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

So it's unpopular with 50% of people.

[–]knoxisbackDe Gea 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, it's controversial. An unpopular opinions thread is one where people post things that aren't supported by a majority of supporters, which isn't the case.

[–]shinkag 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's not even 50-50, who wants Memphis sold in the summer? A few morons here and there on this sub but the general consensus is keep him. Not like it even matters what we think, I'm willing to bet my right arm he won't be sold. What kind of club sells a 22 year old winger after one season anyways? Especially considering we'll be losing money on him anyways, can't see any club offering more than £15m on him.

[–]knoxisbackDe Gea 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah true. Maddening how ppl think one season translates to overall success.

[–]JayDevilK1993 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

the fact that this could actually constitute an unpopular opinion is mind blowing. He hasn't even been that bad. I just don't understand the logic behind selling him already.

[–]K-QuickGeorge Best 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This really shouldn't be unpopular. Anyone who wants him sold right now is an idiot.

[–]arron77 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think Memphis has been pure shit but agree he needs another season and most think the same

[–]jbiresqHerrera 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

On the other hand, I believe if we get a good offer for him he'll go.

[–]tammodiruud van nistelrooy tra la la la la 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

What's a good offer to you? United aren't a selling club. Whether a player is sold or not isn't decided by the size of the offer as much as with other clubs. (Ronaldo the exception)

[–]LDN2016 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm happy to sell him if:

(i) we make break even AND

(ii) reinvest the money in a better forward, young or already established e.g. if Memphis money goes to buy Dembele or towards a bid for James/Griezmann.

.

Do not want to sell him to make squad space for an academy player or pick up someone mediocre like Sadio Mane.

[–]tammodiruud van nistelrooy tra la la la la -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why on earth would Griezman join us. Where has this come from? Griezman isn't leaving Atletico.

[–]jbiresqHerrera 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I mean if someone offers close to what we paid so we could recoup the investment. I just feel there's something beneath the surface we're not hearing about. But, I don't think that offer will come in so he'll stay.

[–]tammodiruud van nistelrooy tra la la la la 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just feel there's something beneath the surface we're not hearing about.

I've been gutted to see his name on the bench as much as it has been this year. I'd have wanted him to start over Lingard more than he has done, even if it means playing on the right.

[–]TanqPhilWoodward! 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Constantly posting that United, owners to boards to Woodward to manager to players, are absolute shit in every thread on this sub does not make United better. It drives supporters away and shows immaturity/spoiled attitude/lack of perspective.

If your opinion is based on newspaper articles, you are a complete and utter fool who does not understand advertizing.

A significant percentage of posters (more importantly upvoters) are not United supporters, but instead ABUs spoiling threads. United fans could not possibly hate United that much. " If I bitch enough on Reddit, United will win faster!" No, it pisses off real supporters...kill yourself, prick.

3 fucking years on Reddit, only 6000 karma, obviously I don't give a single fuck about downvotes. Come at me, assholes.

[–]IchDienSchweinsteiger 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

A significant percentage of posters (more importantly upvoters) are not United supporters, but instead ABUs spoiling threads.

You think ABU's actually care enough to do that? And besides, any effect other communities have on this subreddit is minimal compared to the effect we can have on theirs, because ours is the largest and therefore has the most brigadier 12 year olds according the law of averages...

Should've seen the West Ham subreddit after the FA Cup 1/4 final.. people from this sub made that place a shit-show.

[–]danskzwag -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

Rooney is a a bang average midfielder

[–]WhovianMoakSchweinsteiger 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

I can't say I completely agree. But I think he is an far above average captain. I think his leadership on the pitch is really important. And he does some things, like tracking back to save our asses on defense, far better than the other options there. If he plays next season like he has in 2016, I will be happy to see him in that role.

[–]danskzwag -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

I disagree with this leadership stuff we have Bastian for that. Where were all our leaders under moyes when there were dressing room and team leaks. His tracking back isnt as effective as Morgan and he does jog a fair bit and isnt exactly a ball winner.

[–]WhovianMoakSchweinsteiger 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I didn't downvote you, but I do disagree. Leadership isn't "stuff" in team sports. Its little important shit. He has the respect of the players on and off the pitch. He is the first one to get on the kids for being out of position, making mental mistakes, and getting over emotional with the refs. He knows all of the refs and spends 90 minutes in there ears every weekend lobbying on our behalf. Bastian was one of my favorite players before he got here, but he doesn't fill that role for us.

[–]JayDevilK1993 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Im interested to know what you think makes him an above average captain. I agree with the tracking back part he does like to put himself about; but regarding leadership; one could argue that it's in the job description for a captain so leadership is kind of a prerequisite, particularly within a top team. If we bring in a CM in the summer, what do you want for Rooney going forward?

[–]jonnyshHerrera 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think the club needs a massive talent injection. I think the only kind of buy we should be doing is replacing players that we sell.

On that note, I think Mata needs to be sold.

[–]mapguyAs Tony Martial scores again 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The opinion of Fellaini in this sub seems to have shifted recently, but I still don't want him at United. I think he brings a limited amount of skill to team, none of which should grant him starting over others. He intentionally elbows people, and a lot of his supporters in here conveniently over look that. If it was Costa or Vardy doing that shit nearly every game, we would all being calling him names. He's a bang average player with a lot of dirty fouls in him. I hope he gets sold this summer.

[–]GGMU1992Sir Alex 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The actions that we take this summer will impact the foreseeable future of our football club. If we stand with and accept mediocrity, it will create rippling effects through the course of our future. Quality player acquisition will stagnate. The value of the brand will decrease. We will fall behind in an era where BPL finances are making it easier for lesser clubs to rise. We either show the football world now that we do not stand for mediocrity and we are a big club, or we inevitably stagnate in the mediocrity that we apparently endorse.

With the financial balance arriving in the EPL, we will dwindle away if action isn't taken this summer. Liverpool are going to win Europa and get a Champions League spot. They have a manager that everyone in world football respects, most notably the players that love his style of play. If I am a footballer, there is very little reason why I would choose to play for a Man United that is run by Louis van Gaal in 2017 instead of the likes of City, Liverpool, etc. Bringing in Jose Mourinho would give us a reinvigorated swagger. A confidence for the future with a display of intent that we want to get back to the top. If this happens, we may be able to revive the state of our club. If we stick to Louis van Gaal, we dont know the next time a manager of Mourinho's stature will be available. Its exactly what we need, and if we dont take it, then we have shown our hand. A hand that promotes mid table acceptance.

[–]StannisJrScholesy 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Seeing what Klopp has done for Liverpool, and Poch for Spurs, I don't think our squad is as average as a lot of people make it out to be.

Might not be an unpopular opinion but wanted to get it off my chest anyway.

[–]Allard1994Blind for Ballon d'Or -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

It isnt. We just need a superstar. We dont have that. Spurs have Eriksen, Kane, Alli.

Liverpool have... I cant think of any honestly.

We need a James, Griezman, Bale. Heck even Zlatan.

[–]murica_sauceVidić 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

The downvote button is supposed to be used when a comment doesn't add to the discussion. It is not intended to be used when you personally disagree with the opinion posted.

[–]StannisJrScholesy 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair that's the case all over reddit.

[–]keesmaatMemphis 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

i still think Jones can develop into a great centre back for United

[–]NGU-BenSchweinsteiger 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Old Trafford while visually impressive, is shit. The atmosphere is shit and we have too many half and half scarf wearing, prawn sandwich eating people ruining the atmosphere. Something needs to be done to bring it back to locals and make the atmosphere better.

[–]KoreanMeatballsVan Nistelrooy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Smalling is no where near world class. Benefited massively this season from being in such a defensive side.

[–]OrcnickThe 3 R's 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

I think we should cash in on lingard in the summer. He's had great season and I cannot fault his commitment and love for the club. But he's a replaceable player and we need someone with more quality. He's reminds a bit of welbeck, lots of hard working but he was not quite united quality.

Of course I am always open to be proven wrong but I just don't see a future for him as any more then a bench player once a better RM joins :/

[–]murica_sauceVidić 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think we should cash in on lingard

  1. Do you think we would be paid enough for him to make this worth it?
  2. Do you think we have the squad depth to cut someone who is a decent squad player?
  3. To follow-up to question 2, would you rather sell him than keep him (if not for longer, than for another season) as a squad player behind a 'better' signing - to give the new signing time to adjust to the EPL, and to see if his development continues?

[–]Surfacing710Keane 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can't really see why we should cash in on a player? Not exactly like we need money.

I don't think he's good enough to start for us but to be a successful team, you need to have a good squad which Lingard would be good for. Players like Blomquist, O' Shea, Berg, while not great, were highly valued to the team in the grand scheme of things.

[–]thesmokethatthundersBeckham 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean I don't think we'd "cash" in much for him tbh. He's not that young any more and was never considered a high ceiling player. He's dedicated to United so wouldn't mind him staying as a squad player. He shows dedication to close down and track back and his pace and ability to spread out defenses could be useful as a sub.

[–]IchDienSchweinsteiger 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If we don't buy a star RW then we still have lingard as a fall-back. If we do buy a star RW then we have a bit more squad depth for injury cover. As it stands the wage bill isn't too horrific and we do not need the cash injection by way of fee. Can only see him leaving this club if he wants to. (which is not beyond possibility, I'll grant you)

[–]danskzwag -3ポイント-2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Carrick is massively over rated

[–]azogthorinThere's only one Darren Fletcher 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

You don't need to make three different comments you know.

Carrick is massively over rated

Rooney is a bang average midfielder

Our most senior players like Carrick and Rooney have been our worst

And it's the same comments you make in almost every thread anyway.

[–]Stilkonwheels 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

TFM should not currently be starting for us, his positional awareness is at times shocking and will be exploited against better teams.

Memphis is not going to perform well under Mourinho, hes not the type of player mou prefers.

De Gea is leaving in the summer and we're going to be scrambling for a replacement.

[–]YoungJumpWazza[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Where's De Gea gonna go though if not Real? If it's Real we weren't really scrambling for a replacement, Navas would've been a great keeper for us

[–]colucci -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

LVG should stay for the third year of his contract.

Can Mourinho do any better than LVG given the current circumstances? The injuries and the shit squad would have been a big challenge to any manager, bar SAF. Who are the competent players we have in the central midfield? Schneiderlin, Carrick, and Schweinsteiger. Fellaini is more of a number 10, and he is inconsistent. Schneiderlin is an excellent player. Carrick is old. Schweinsteiger is old and injury prone. We pretty much have no robust central midfielders. If you look at any of the teams that perform well in the UCL - Juve, Munich, Madrid - you will see that they all have a core of very strong, technical and experienced midfielders that can dictate the game. I'll beat a dead horse, but we haven't had that since Scholes. Schneiderlin is a great addition and a step in the right direction, but we need more than just one good midfield signing.

So really, if we are going to go and spend money on midfielders, I think we might as well keep LVG. I reckon he can do a better job than Mourinho.

In any case, I want to point out that I'm not happy with the season and LVG's performance, but I think it is down more to what players we have than the manager himself.

[–]KeKaRoNiJanuzaj -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like Fellaini.

Is that unpopular even after Everton?