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[–]Il128 7ポイント8ポイント  (16子コメント)

She's not yours, it's just your turn.

[–]iLLprincipLeS 4ポイント5ポイント  (14子コメント)

A wife is made. Problem comes when the majority of women by the time they hit 18, are already too broken to be made anything out of. She's not yours, she's not worthy of being yours. She's just a plate who will have the honor to be tasted by you. And then by other, and another, until there is nothing left but her empty eyes with the 1000 cock stare.

[–]leinaD-Backwards -4ポイント-3ポイント  (13子コメント)

There is a lot of truth here but who the fuck hurt you.

[–]iLLprincipLeS 0ポイント1ポイント  (12子コメント)

Truth can never really hurt you. Wahrheit macht frei.

[–]leinaD-Backwards -3ポイント-2ポイント  (11子コメント)

Well, something to consider. If you seem damaged as fuck you're going to attract a certain type.

[–]iLLprincipLeS 4ポイント5ポイント  (10子コメント)

If you seem damaged as fuck you're going to attract a certain type.

Generally, we get the world we deserve. Then again, women master the art of wearing 100 masks.

[–]leinaD-Backwards -3ポイント-2ポイント  (9子コメント)

Went from general to iamverysmart/ihatewomen in the blink of an eye. Good one.

Get the world we deserve? The fuck kinda of depressing philosophy is that, even weirder on TWP. Women are the master of wearing masks, you mean, like people?

Get a grip

[–]iLLprincipLeS 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

Get the world we deserve? The fuck kinda of depressing philosophy is that, even weirder on TWP.

If you seem damaged as fuck you're going to attract a certain type.

It's yours, not mine.

Women are the master of wearing masks, you mean, like people?

All people are dishonest and wear masks? The fuck kinda of depressing philosophy is that?

[–]leinaD-Backwards 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

You are bottom of the barrel pickings my man. I'm sure you will make many people very unhappy, congrats

[–]iLLprincipLeS 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

I'll be good. If I were you, I'd worry more about those damaged as fuck women who are locking down .. a certain type.

[–]StraightGlueWater 57ポイント58ポイント  (13子コメント)

A friend of mine from high school lost contact with all of us about a year or two after graduation. He met a psychopathic girl who demanded his attention 24/7.

So naturally he knocked her up and married. They have 4 kids.

He works an incredibly difficult job, but has established a sterling reputation, is a genuinely good guy and gives an absolute master class on being a loving father. The dude lives and breathes for his kids. They've been together for 6 years now.

Imagine his surprise, when earlier this very week, he is approached by a police officer at his work. The police officer informs him that his wife has taken out a restraining order against him, and he is served with divorce papers.

No warning. The weekend prior they were away on a family vacation posting happy family photos on Facebook.

In his shock, he pulled out his phone to call her as soon as he was served by the cop, and the cop arrests him on the spot for breaking the restraining order. The dude didn't even have a chance to comprehend what was happening, and he was arrested at his workplace, in front of his boss and coworkers. I am not fucking joking.

He hasn't heard from his children in almost a week. His wife has responded to nothing. His family has attempted to contact hers, to no avail. As if the universe hasn't shit on this dude hard enough, it's his fucking birthday too.

This guy has NO RECOURSE. Until he can get in front of a judge, he has NO assurance of the safety of his children. He can't know what poison their mother is feeding them about their father. He can't ask them about their days at school. He can't kiss them goodnight. He will be arrested just for asking. For all he knows, she's left the state, or the country, or smothered her kids under pillows. You think your girlfriend missing her period gives you anxiety? Try having everything that matters to you in your life suddenly and without warning ripped away and hidden behind a massive force of police officers and lawyers.

Fuck. This. System.

Marriage is a six-shooter with five bullets. Every once in awhile the trigger gets pulled and nobody dies, but for every one who plays with the gun and lives to tell the tale, there's five who get fucked.

This guy had a promising future in a respectable career. He is now weeks away from being reduced to a complete wage slave on the hook for alimony and the support of 4 children for the next 16 years minimum. Meanwhile his wife is going to get financially reimbursed for kidnapping his children without warning, and she'll be told she's "so strong, so brave" in the process.

Stop reading these stories we share here and writing them off as simple anecdotes. You are not a special snowflake. You will not be the guy who survives the sinking of the Titanic- you will be the guy who is in the freezing cold water asking "Why the fuck did I get on that stupid fucking ship? FUCK."

Do Not Get Married.

[–]Benny757 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

As a long-time attorney in the family law field I saw this restraining order bullshit all the time. In fact, it's built into the process. The little missus (by the way, women initiate 70 percent of all divorces) can create a restraining order simply by drawing up a summons (yes, she could sign this herself, she doesn't need an attorney or judge - all she has to do is have the document served upon the poor sap.)

Here's the typical language as required by law in most states today. Men, you really are fucked in this gynocentric world. any minor violation will send the great white night cops or sheriff deputies to haul your ass into jail. Let the felonies commence.

Sorry guys, this is real shit here. Merely questioning "what's going on," can get you arrested. Because your "tone" is deemed abusive.

This will likely be right in your summons you receive, and the judge doesn't sign it, your SPOUSE who wants the divorce does!

TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER

PER SDCL 25-4-33.1, BY ORDER OF COURT, YOU AND YOUR SPOUSE ARE:

(1) Restrained from transferring, encumbering, concealing or in any way dissipating or disposing of any marital assets, without the written consent of the other party or an order of the Court, except as may be necessary in the usual course of business or for the necessities of life. You are to notify the other party of any proposed extraordinary expenditures and to account to the Court for all extraordinary expenditures made after the temporary restraining Order is in effect;

(2) Restrained from molesting or disturbing the peace of the other party;

(3) Restrained from removing any minor child of the parties from the state without the written consent of the other party or an order of the court; and

(4) Restrained from making any changes to any insurance coverage for the parties or any child of the parties without the written consent of the other party or an order of the court unless the change under the applicable insurance coverage increases the benefits, adds additional property, persons, or perils to be covered, or is required by the insurer.3 Form UJS-311 Rev. 08/2011 INITIAL CUSTODY ORDER

Pursuant to SDCL 25-4A-11 et seq., upon service of this Summons the attached visitation guidelines become an order of this court. Any minor children of this marriage shall remain in the custody of the parent who has been the primary caregiver for the minor children for the majority of time in the twelve months preceding the filing of the summons and complaint, unless the parties otherwise agree. The guidelines are subject to any provision established by a South Dakota state court in a temporary or permanent domestic protection order, an order arising out of an abuse or neglect proceeding, a bond condition arising out of a criminal case, and an order in any other proceeding affecting child custody or support.

The attached guidelines shall apply and continue in effect unless the parties agree or the court otherwise orders. Imposition of these standard guidelines creates no presumption as to who may be awarded custody at any hearing. An agreement by the parties for visitation other than the standard guidelines must be in writing, signed by both parties, and filed with the court. The agreed plan shall be approved by court order and replace the standard guidelines or any plan previously filed.

If either party objects to this initial custody order in SDCL 25-4A-11 or the standard guidelines, the court shall order a hearing which shall be held not later than 30 days after the date of the objection. The court shall then issue its temporary custody and visitation order after considering the best interest of the child(ren) consistent with the provisions of SDCL 25-4-45.

IF EITHER SPOUSE VIOLATES ANY OF THESE PROVISIONS, THAT SPOUSE MAY BE IN CONTEMPT OF COURT.

Dated this _____ day of ___________, 20.


[–]2Overkillengine 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are not a special snowflake. You will not be the guy who survives the sinking of the Titanic- you will be the guy who is in the freezing cold water asking "Why the fuck did I get on that stupid fucking ship? FUCK."

You can tell some people that they should not stick their finger in a live socket because they'll get electrocuted but some dumbfuck does it anyways.

It's the male version of how women think they can just show up and look good in yoga pants but bring nothing else to the table and get Chad to commit....and years later end up a 30+ year old single mom.

"I'm too special for that to happen to me!"

[–]Endorsed ContributorNeoreactionSafe 11ポイント12ポイント  (9子コメント)

Imagine his surprise, when earlier this very week, he is approached by a police officer at his work. The police officer informs him that his wife has taken out a restraining order against him, and he is served with divorce papers.

No warning. The weekend prior they were away on a family vacation posting happy family photos on Facebook.

In his shock, he pulled out his phone to call her as soon as he was served by the cop, and the cop arrests him on the spot for breaking the restraining order.

That's really extreme.

He obviously didn't read or understand that the restraining order included something as remote as a phone call. Wow.

A week ago I met a girl at a bar and she starts talking about her ex-husband as a felon. So I'm curious... I ask:

"Wow, he's a felon.... what did he do?"

"Oh, he violated a restraining order and was put in jail because of things he said to me."

...in a woman's mind he was at fault and the fact she put him in jail says nothing about her but it all was about how bad he was.

This stuff is 100% real.

P.S: Even if you don't marry you can get all this shit thrown on you. She can retroactively declare your last sex act together as rape. Children born as bastards are still going to cost you 18 years of slavery.

 

[–]StraightGlueWater 13ポイント14ポイント  (4子コメント)

He didn't even read the order. The cop told him what was going on, and he called his wife to ask "What the fuck is going on?!"

The cop didn't have to arrest him. Any reasonable cop would say "Hey man, you can't be calling her, it's in the order."

But my guess is she told the Police he was a wife beater, or a child rapist, or an ISIS apologist. Who the fuck knows.

The point is the system assumes YOU are scum. Brilliant men making massive impact for good in the world are regularly dragged through the legal system and robbed of everything they have by useless Gashes.

It's a social travesty.

This guy is probably considering eating a fucking shotgun, and I don't know what anybody can tell him to talk him out of it.

Better men than him have told the world to get fucked rather than play the game.

[–]lakalahehe 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

He should leave the country. I would never accept that shit being done to me. It's mentally enslaved.

If he has real skills besides a reputation, he can regain elsewhere.

[–]psychyness 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'd leave the country solely because there is no fucking way I'd be giving money to a person who did that to me. I'd rather be poor in Mexico or Canada knowing she doesn't get a dime out of me, over being poor in America knowing she's living a happy easy life off of me.

Fuck that. Karma is a bitch, and if you fuck with me be prepared to lose.

[–]oth_trp_throwaway 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah me too. I guess there'd just be something way too humiliating about being fucked in the ass 24/7 by the American government to tolerate it. I wouldn't want half my paycheck to get split between the psycho cunt and the government. I'd probably get the fuck out of the country before the first alimony bill arrived in the mail.

He could probably go to Mexico or the Philippines or somewhere like that. Probably wouldn't earn anywhere near as much, and the standard of living would be lower, but at least his ass would be free of the government's dick. Plus if he did remarry and started another family, he might be statistically less likely to get such a cunt of a wife (of course AWALT, but it takes a special kind of psycho to do what his wife did).

But this guy has kids, which obviously makes the choice a lot harder. If he leaves the country, his kids will lose a lot of financial support, and will be stuck being raised by a crazy bitch.

Best thing for him to do is to invest in a good lawyer, and get the most out of it he can. Maybe cancel his wife's credit cards and move his money to a separate bank account, so she can't afford as good a lawyer (then again, I'm not sure what a judge would think of that, I'm not an expert here). It's possible if the judge sees what's going on and/or his lawyer's good enough he could get the kids from the bitch. But if not, it's a tough choice what to do. System is all fucked up.

[–]Endorsed ContributorNeoreactionSafe 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Heck... if it was a female cop I'd think:

"Okay, let's turn on the music and get this stripper show started."

...the guy was likely in complete disbelief.

 

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    [–]PanzerBatallion -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Don't forget that everything you read here is one perspective, and there's always 3 in every story.

    There's his side, her side, and the truth. And as much as men like to think we know the truth, we also have a way of conveniently leaving out details that make us look like shit.

    [–]dimmy666 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Don't know why you're being downvoted for telling the truth.

    No one is immune to bias, and we redpillers certainly are not as well.

    [–]PanzerBatallion 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    There's a narrative in every sub, and if you go against said narrative, the hive mind will just downvote anything they don't agree with.

    It's unfortunate to have a global website where everything just devolves into "you disagree with me, so your comment disappears below a visible threshold." The only way to expand your world view is to engage and interact with people who have differing opinions than you. Of all people, those interested in a "red pill"/"Blue pill" dynamic should be keenly aware of this fact. No one would be here if it wasn't for a disagreement about what you are taught to believe men are supposed to do.

    [–]oth_trp_throwaway 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He needs to get off his ass and GET A LAWYER IMMEDIATELY. Sounds like he makes good money, so he should be able to afford a good one (assuming his wife hasn't drained his bank account or something crazy like that). Clearly, this bitch has no moral compass, and will stop at nothing to get everything she possibly can from him.

    If he lawyers up and does his homework, he might be able to keep his kids (especially if the judge realizes what the bitch did). Otherwise, he's in a bad spot (stay and get raped by the government, or leave the country and abandon his kids to a psycho cunt).

    To be fair, not getting married would only have marginally helped. If they'd just been cohabitating with kids, she could have pulled the exact same shit with pretty much the same results. (Except he wouldn't get slapped with alimony, and he wouldn't lose the house if it belonged to him).

    The system is just fucked up. I swear if I ever have kids I'm moving to Thailand or something. Even if I land myself a unicorn in the US, I wouldn't want this shit to possibly happen to my kids either after they grow up. Plus who knows how bad it'll be in 20-30 years?

    (Also, that cop is a fucking asshole - he could have just fucking said "no you're not allowed to call your wife" while he pulled out his phone, rather than arresting him after the fact).

    [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

    All of you, start reading

    This is what they dont tell you, the legal side, what marriage really is.

    [–]ImHereAtLast 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That's only the seventh part. Where are the other six?

    [–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 29ポイント30ポイント  (19子コメント)

    Excellent, at the end of the day it's a man's choice what he does with his life, we shouldn't disown men who are married because if anything they need our support more than anyone. LTRs are hard mode, whereas marriage is suicide mode, because your ability to affect dread is vastly handicapped by the draconian legislation that is the feminist family courts.

    We wouldn't be a very good community for men if we did not warn against the pitfalls of marriage, or make men aware of the women who will try to bully, shame and guilt them into commitment. On that note, I'm reminded of a quote from a commenter from awhile back that stuck with me ever since: "Marriage is responsibility for men and a lifestyle for women"

    And as much as I think it is good to support men no matter what they decide, I wish to violently decimate the hamster that plagues married blue and purple pill men.

    An open letter to the aforementioned:

    Do not think because you are married you are superior to "all those young'uns on TRP" you're not, in fact you're an example of what they should aspire not to become - a blue piller who found the red pill too late. A man who found TRP after wifing up an unworthy woman undeserving of the sacrifice inherent to a lifetime of male commitment.

    It's good that we're reaching a lot of young guys on TRP, because we can give them the power to choose what to do with their lives. We have got to them before they can fuck it up for themselves like you have. Do not drag them into your misery. Do not encourage them to fuck up like you and call it maturity and manning up, that is disingenuous, and it robs young men of their future simply to validate your piss poor decision making.

    If the young men here want to get married one day, they can do that with full knowledge of the basket case of an institution that they're entering - that's their call. If they want a kid and no marriage, to be a bachelor or even to go MGTOW - this is likewise their call.

    TRP doesn't recommend marriage, but it is not our place to MANDATE how people live their lives. We may disagree vehemently, we may advise a man against such a thing, but if he insists on fucking it up for himself then fuck it up he will, and I hope he fucks it up majestically, I hope he enjoys it whilst it lasts and that the pain that will inevitably ensue from his daring naivety is worth all the brief and fleeting joy that will be replaced by the misery of divorce.

    A lot of the suckers who were hauled into marriage in their BP days would have a total redo given the chance. That is to say, if they had their level of RP knowledge now and a time machine, they wouldn't be on the internet making the best of a shit situation trying to polish a turd, but rather, they'd be living life on their terms.

    They'd have better vetted the bitch they settled down with. They would of done an LTR but not married. They would have gone their own way. They would be bachelor's banging hot bitches Hank Moody style; they would have done shit differently given the gift of hindsight.

    But married men don't have that chance, do they? They are trapped. They are trapped in a situation I would not wish on any man, they are trapped in marriage 2.0 - feminist marriage. They are in damage control mode, doing what they can to preserve the best of an inherently corrupt institution, and they tell themselves that they are the real men, they are the noble men, that they are the men who hold up civilization on their backs arched like Atlas, because it is they who "manned up" - when really they are nothing but fools who learned the truth too late and so do what they can to make their misery tolerable.

    Sure they hold up civilization, but not from a place of pride or strength, but shackled by feminist legislation from a place of weakness, kept in check by their wife's authority as mandated by the state, subsisting on nothing but a small sense of pride that "they're the real men". That's their mantra, that's what they tell themselves to cope with their relative powerlessness in their house. "I'm a real man, I did the right thing" when "the right thing" has made them miserable.

    They hold the piece of shit called marriage in their hand, and they try to shine it as nice as possible. They do it because they don't want to live out of their car. They do it so they don't lose their kids. Know that they do it completely from a place of weakness. They have no other choice, because lacking the gift of red pill knowledge before they committed to such an inequitable contract, they are trapped. And making the best of a bad situation is all they've got so they have to make it work. It's like being a Jew in a gas chamber and discussing breathing techniques to make what little life you have left bearable - this is how I see these men.

    A downtrodden man, a hurt man, a man with much to lose and little freedom. Not a powerful man, not a free man, and not a particularly wise one. I chuckle when such a man thinks himself better than those "immature young men who know no better," for this is truly nought but an old fool assuaging the pain that haunts him. It is the tonic of unsubstantiated pride vindicating an old fool for his mistakes at the expense of his brethren wise enough not to follow him.

    Modern marriage is not clever, it is quite frankly foolish given the current climate. Any reasonable man will tell you this, but the hyper-religious will try and persuade and shame you into going the traditional route absent the breed of woman and complementing legal system that accompanied it and made it viable. They cut and paste a 1950's social model whilst completely ignoring the fact there's no 1950's legal system to accompany it. They are out of touch, and they call those who don't buy into their delusion immature.

    Truth be told, you didn't man up, you were duped. You were fooled into doing something that disadvantages you by linking your pride to sacrifice, and now you think you're mature for having engaged in such a terrible act of folly.

    TRP is about giving men power, giving them options and letting them decide how to live for themselves. Not indoctrinating them into a tradcon narrative of "real men sacrifice themselves for women and children" - many of whom which will never appreciate a single drop of sweat or blood you have shed in the quest to "be a real man".

    Women of all shades of pill will buy into your sense of honour because it serves them to do so, but they do not care for you, they are not your allies - they are just looking out for themselves. And you are so downtrodden, exploited and foolish, that rather than listen to the free men, you develop Stockholm syndrome for those who would force you to live out of your car should you put a ring on it whilst being imperfect. Open your eyes.

    [–]RedSugarPill 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Is it bad that I read this with a British accent? (..enjoyed the podcast) I am eagerly awaiting the "Divorced Red Pill", "Red Pill Alimony", and "Debtor's Prison" flairs.

    [–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Not at all, in fact going by the feedback I've had I think everyone's reading my shit in my accent now. Pretty fucking hilarious actually. Those flairs sound.. yeah.. fuck that!

    [–]vetiarvind 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Nope, I usually do read with the accents of the writer's native language, but for some reason your writing resonates with me to the degree that I actually read it in my own voice.

    [–]FieldLine 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Any reasonable man will tell you this, but the hyper-religious will try and persuade and shame you into going the traditional route absent the breed of woman and complementing legal system that accompanied it and made it viable.... They are out of touch, and they call those who don't buy into their delusion immature.

    It's more fundamental than being out of touch. You're dealing with the type of person who believes in God to the extent that they practice rituals with no logical foundation. They believe in an entity and a system that can't be perceived in human terms.

    For a person like that, well, believing in marriage isn't a stretch by any means.

    TRP is about giving men power, giving them options and letting them decide how to live for themselves. Not indoctrinating them into a tradcon narrative of "real men sacrifice themselves for women and children"

    For the religious man this becomes a fight against indoctrination to the narrative of bending your happiness and well being to God's will.

    [–]TheSupr3m3Justic3 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    And this is why marriage should be discussed and not just pushed to the side.

    Most men that find this sub out of desperation, I'm willing to bet, are already married.

    As a married man you got 2 options, shit or get off the pot. You either get yourself above her SMV and you take your marriage back by the balls, or you GTFO. There is no middle ground. You can not let the women control the marriage, at any point. And this is always going to be an uphill battle in a life long war.

    Ask me how I know.

    [–]Endorsed Contributorsqerl 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    We have got to them before they can fuck it up for themselves like you have.

    They need to open their eyes. And I've heard this term before in religion as well. But here it's different. TRP is looking at reality; the legal system, hypergamy, covert behaviours. Religion and feminism says to ignore that noise. TRP says listen, learn.

    I hope he fucks it up majestically.

    Oh yea, that I have. But those of us that have, are not dead. We are behind an 8 ball; with struggles, trials, and tribulations which are infuriating and defeating. However, we also provide news from the inside. Tell you how it is to help those that have yet to make that decision, or help those that realized far too late. We are not alone and collectively can awaken to bring a change for the better to those that take the journey.

    A lot of the suckers who were hauled into marriage in their BP days would have a total redo given the chance.

    Total. Absolutely.

    They'd have better vetted the bitch they settled down with.

    Vetted and with extreme predjudice

    Truth be told, you didn't man up, you were duped.

    Know the rules before you play. The deck is stacked against you.

    TRP is about giving men power

    And knowledge.

    Open your eyes.

    And your mind, before you fuck it all up.

    [–]balajig8 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This should be a separate post IL Man...Excellent stuff.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorAdderallabuse 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

    This is why the conversation needs to be had here. The oldest and wisest of TRP need to weigh in and their voice was not present in the splinters

    [–]reigorius 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    But Rollo Tomassi posts on both subs. Confused.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorMattyAnon 31ポイント32ポイント  (23子コメント)

    Great plan... MRP sucks, so this is a good way to incorporate it here.

    I wonder if the flair should look like a happy bride next to a man crying.

    Also...

    Do Not Marry

    [–]Endorsed ContributorNeoreactionSafe 13ポイント14ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Child Support Laws (1950) are 90% of the damage that was done to us.

    Marriage itself adds Alimony and Spousal Support.

    Don't forget that you can become a Slave for 18 years without being married or even knowing much about the slut you got pregnant.

     

    [–]Endorsed ContributorMattyAnon 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Agreed on child support laws.... but realistically this is an inescapable risk if you have children in the west. Marriage is optional.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorNeoreactionSafe 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

    My point is that you get people who focus too much on the marriage contract.

    Just because you don't marry doesn't exclude you from Child Support:

    18 years @ $750 month for 12 months = $162,000

    ...and that's moderately priced.

    A higher income guy can be given a higher figure and it's up to the whim of a judge.

    False Wisdom : The guy that avoids marriage but gets some low quality slut pregnant.

     

    [–]2Overkillengine 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

    True. In fact, many men have let a woman use the threat of Child Support to coerce them into marriage (doubling down on a mistake!).

    Which is why men should wrap it and have a secret vasectomy. The only way to guarantee something won't be a problem is to not allow it to be a possibility.

    [–]bornredd 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    And what of those who want kids?

    [–]Senior Contributoradam-l 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Indeed. In some countries Alimony and Spousal Support are practically inexistent, but getting divorced is still a rape because of Child Support and Parental Alienation. Women, due to their convenient lack of a sense of honor, often use their children as hostages.

    That's why fighting for Shared Parenting laws is important. The two crucial parameters are the right to spend equal time with your children, and forbidding the abduction of the children by their mother to another city.

    Shared Parenting laws would curb the current power differential of women over men by at least half.

    [–]malariasucks -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I have a former co-worker who got pregnant and they thought they were going to be married. turns out the guy is just a deadbeat dad. Trust me, she's on such a higher level than him.

    dude has paid one month of child support in 2 years and wants to fight for less.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorNeoreactionSafe 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If she wanted the Child Support all she needs to do is call the police and they will arrest him.

    She obviously must keep him as her Chad Thundercock.

     

    [–]stonepimpletilists 5ポイント6ポイント  (10子コメント)

    Oh? How so? Aside from the tfa post... Which laid out the risks clearer than I've seen elsewhere btw... At least with the same comprehensiveness

    [–]Endorsed ContributorMattyAnon 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Have you read some of the MRP posts? They're cringeworthy, and these guys basically have no way out. And the women clearly know it, and don't give a fuck.

    [–]stonepimpletilists 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I read all them. There's two types. The ones that last own their failures, and crawl out of shawshanks shit pipe.

    Then the others, of which get murdered, and the carcass displayed as a cautionary tale.

    The teenage virgin here starts from 0. The poor bastard who found mrp too late starts at -10, got past the anger and building themselves back to having options.

    I guarantee the newbie poster there, on average, puts in more work than the average new trp member... They have to.

    Oh, and the wives eventually turn around. Once the guys ready for plates, and ready to drop divorce papers, after doing his legal preparation. Once that happens, they tend to post more on theory than putting their vulnerabilities online anymore

    If you don't see the benefit, or the value in the good posts, than I don't know what to tell you.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorAdderallabuse 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

    MRP wasn't disavowed because the posters were cringeworthy. The issue was much of the advice they received from some members was awful. Women, bluepillers, and bucket crabbing married men all are prominent

    [–]RealGucciSosa 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    In addition to redpillschool being banned from there once. How do you take a name and then ban one of the two guys who started it all? Same with RedPillWives, its like they openly state they rather be plugged-in (and do it their way) yet they want to use the "red pill" moniker, which loses all meaning if you're not willing to hear the counterarguments.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorAdderallabuse 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I have no idea what you are talking about BUT I will say that TRP is not a debate sub looking for counterarguments

    [–]sexyshoulderdevil 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Ah, you beat me to this question... I'd like to hear legitimate responses...if they think they can come up with any... (Did you see what I did there? Shhh...I'm baiting any weak willed egos with a subtle dig to get them to try and prove their mettle. Like how WMP calls people "fucking faggots". It's JUST like that. Now let's see what they say.) Man, while we wait let's have some sex. Not with each other though. With females.

    [–]stonepimpletilists 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Man, I'm tired as fuck, 5 more hours of flying. How are you still stringing sentences together?

    [–]sexyshoulderdevil 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I thought I told you... I'm actually a moonshot program developed by a Google subsidiary. I'm an AI (Artificial Intelligence) designed to assimilate masculine language to formulate a working conversational lexicon that will eventually be fully incorporated into a larger more complete MALE AI with the code name "Broden". In short, my neural networks do not require "sleep" as you experience it. However for a period of 52 minutes per day I am taken offline to compile my current lexicon iteration into the latest functional dev version of "Broden."

    (Edit: Ok ok... I just don't sleep much. Then it hits me by the weekend and I sleep like a teenager. The wife and kiddo head and do shit and I sleep like a MRP baby until 10am.)

    [–]iLLprincipLeS 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I wonder if the flair should look like a happy bride next to a man crying.

    I think it's ok how it is now: like a pair of handcuffs. ; which is not that bad ( I guess)

    [–]Modredpillschool[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Haha, it was supposed to be two rings... but I do like the secondary meaning.

    [–]iLLprincipLeS 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The flair is visionary, it will be useful too for posting news about Hillary and how the feminist narrative crashes and marriage laws get modified to represent also the interests of males.

    [–]TheSupr3m3Justic3 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I went to MRP for one day and my first comment was why the fuck they are being bible thumpers......it did not go over to well.

    [–]Luckyluke23 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

    this is a good idea. though, i feel as if it's going to get into a shit show of, " doing get married" posts.

    but what happens if you found the red pill after? what happens if you WANT to have kids some day? what happens if you do want to get married.

    [–]Modredpillschool[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Follow along with the MRP flaired posts. I'm in a LTR and I'm planning a family. I'm just not signing a marriage contract.

    [–]Il128 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Common law. You'll learn so much about the time your youngest child enters first grade.

    Try and adapt ASAP to being a father 4 days a month.

    [–]Modredpillschool[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Common law doesn't exist in many (most) states.

    [–]Il128 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Ok man. I can't see flairs on mobile so I'll just have to guess which posts not to comment on.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorMattyAnon 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    what happens if you do want to get married.

    I recommend a lobotomy

    [–]michael_wilkins 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    No marriage shaming.

    Inb4 someone accuses this of turning TRP into a hugbox.

    Someone's who's facing down a bear doesn't need advice on how to stay away from bears in mating season, they need advice on how to escape a bear.

    [–]Modredpillschool[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Someone's who's facing down a bear doesn't need advice on how to stay away from bears in mating season, they need advice on how to escape a bear.

    Exactly!

    [–]200mgtestc 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    As someone who's married I love this. Whenever it comes out in a comment that I'm married I get complete non-sequitur comments that are just some variation of "don't get married" or "you're fucking idiot."

    Dude, I get it. Ya ya ya. No fucking shit. What do you want me to do?

    My apologies to you, non-sequitur commenter, that I didn't find TRP before I did. Gee golly, sure hope you're not mad at me. That would be terrible.

    [–]trptwerp 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Great addition to the flairs. It fits very well next to the ltr tag.

    [–]harsha_hs 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Good flair, and extremely accurate moderation rules.

    [–]iamrsj 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Thank you for doing this, much appreciated :)

    [–]the99percent1 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Im gonna play the devils advocate here and say that not all RP men believe in the mantra of "not to get married".

    Look, yes, the current feminist landscape does suck.. But then again, feminism is just a shit test..

    Let's face it, there are good quality women out there worthy of a lifetime commitment. Plenty can be found in RP women. Women such as these really do help in achieving your mission in life.

    And as a man, that is what you are placed on earth to do.. Achieve your fucking mission and then die peacefully. Plenty of great men have gone down this path, why shouldn't you do too? Marriage is very much apart of your mission. To deny it, is just denying an opportunity to achieve your full potential.. Marriage pushes you to achieve the best you can. It is no coincidence that married men out-earn and gain promotion faster than their bachelor counterparts.

    If you enjoy children and want to have your own, the likelihood of you getting married increases. It's just a fact of life... Women do expect marriage before kids. They need to have security in the form of marriage.. There's no dodging it. Do you want kids with a woman who can be relied upon to nurture and grow your kids up? Then you are highly likely to get married.

    Now, I'm all for taking calculated risks.. marriage to a worthy woman has its huge upsides.. kids, combined income and net-worth, a lifetime partnership, someone you can really trust and count upon, etc..

    Marriage is a partnership.. You are entering into a contract, and just like any contract, there is a minute chance it will fuck you in the ass if you aren't careful and don't do your due diligence. That's all there is to marriage.. Do your fucking homework and keep screening women the way that RP have advised you to do and you should be fine.

    And in the event your marriage turns to shit in the future.. So fucking what? Just remember, you are a man.. You will live on.

    [–]MgFeSi 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Im gonna play the devils advocate here and say that not all RP men believe in the mantra of "not to get married"

    The dogmatics on this sub are freaking troublesome. For a group of men who claim to be all about self-reliance, owning your shit, seeking your own path there sure is a lot of commandments to abide by.

    Guess what, you can be pro-marriage and have swallowed the pill. Those who can't understand that possibility are welcome to stay in their sandbox.

    Great post, btw.

    [–]RealGucciSosa 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Guess what, you can be pro-marriage and have swallowed the pill. Those who can't understand that possibility are welcome to stay in their sandbox.

    That entirely depends on what country you live in, and what the laws and norms there are. But if you live in the Western hemisphere, North of the equator, you can forget all that! Marriage can't work.

    [–]leinaD-Backwards -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

    This is what I don't get about this sub sometimes. A LOT of people are projecting their personal hurt due to past happenings and then rule out 100% of women because one out of their three girlfriends was a shit head at 16-20. We were all idiots at that age.

    So much amazing confidence boosting shit here that needs to be passed around but the 'no woman is pure' manta is tired. Last year if you sorted by top one of the posts was about how to be alpha by bugging your girls phone, installing keyloggers and the like. How low can you go....?

    Surely, the most alpha thing possible is to get your shit together, score the best, most loyal beaut and procreate? That is literally the sole objective of being the alpha male in almost any species. Bag the best girl, be the biggest and have the best kids untill you die.

    "Scored the girl of my dreams. She's loyal, stunning and is independent" Garners: Yeah bro shes banged every bloke and his dog, wears a shit load of makeup, dresses like a slut and is just waiting to cheat on you.

    Bunch of broken, hurting cry babies here unwilling to live life because when they were a shit head someone wised up and fucked them over first. Who knew girls can do that too???

    This sub needs to learn that a penis is not a magic wand in anyway shape or form. Nothing less alpha than playing the chest puff card with deep seated commitment issues growing up alone

    [–]the99percent1 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Nope.. sorry, their anger comes from phase one of RP. It is a legitimate feeling and a right of passage.. to deny their anger and frustration is equally as bad if not worst than denying a married man who is RP aware.

    Each have their own reasons to be here..

    Good that you've found a decent girl to shackle yourself to and procreate.

    The next step for you is to always be at your performance best.. be it your health, fitness, career and game.. As an RP aware male that is married, I too have to contend with my woman hypergamy nature, briffault's law, as well as being able to provide both doses of alpha and beta...

    These are real issues that married men have to deal with. Also, the lack of employing dread game is a serious handicap that even myself, sometimes struggle to find the right balance.. It is an entirely different game compared to plate spinning or even ltr for that matter.. I find it challenging, and I like challenges.

    I'll be the first married man here to admit that the sex does get vanilla and plain when compared to plate spinning.. however, the trade off here is that I am procreating and passing my knowledge and understanding of the world to my children and I've got a partner that I can count on in life.

    That's pretty damn hard to find.. Do you know how hard it is to find someone who is on the same wavelength and understanding as yourself? I've come close, but to strike perfect.. It is hard. Lucky for me, I've married someone who is on paper, the best deal I could have got.

    This is a nice trade off imo.. I'm OK with less adventurous sex. Other guys may not be ok with this trade off but that is for them to figure out.

    [–]spicedncoke 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The anger phase, I get. I was there once. Problem is, a majority of this sub never get put of the anger phase which inhibits the ability to improve as men.

    It's like what Don Henley sang when he was with The Eagles, "GET OVER IT!"

    [–]Endorsed ContributorAdderallabuse 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    just made the first post with the new flair to begin the conversation

    [–]cholomite 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I went to MRP simply because the product was better. More focused and actionable advice, practical ideas and strategies that I could use that relate to the differences between LTR's and marraige over plate spinning. The advice on TRP and asktrp is usually just to "next" her or I would get links talking about what a bad deal marraige is, or some article with statistics about divorce rape or child support or the evils of women. I know my LTR is AWALT, I don't need to read an article about divorce rape or western marraige, I want to know how to rebuild attraction after 6 years of beta behavior or how to deal with the shit tests she gives me about my family or the dog or the dishes.

    Most of the content on this sub is excellent, but it's idealistic. Obviously we know that the ideal scenario for a guy is to stay single and hot, and just fuck girls and spread his seed all across the world. There seems to be a tone here that if you only stick with one girl, you're fucking retarded and don't deserve to get good advice or feedback because you're not truly "red pill" anyway.

    I honestly don't care which sub is the default for married or LTR guys swallowing the pill, as long as the advice and feedback given is good, practical and understanding that not everyone can, or wants to stay single and bang plates forever. I hope you all can pull it off for the sake of all the guys who will be coming here who need it.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorAdderallabuse 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Next is not a valid REFLEXIVE response to most of the day to day issues that many marriages face. On the other hand, it also shouldn't be ruled out.

    [–]Imjustkidding 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    C'mon /u/redpillschool what about the monetary flair we talked about?

    [–]Modredpillschool[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Ah, yes, I did say we should do that. I'm adding it to my todo list right now.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorMentORPHEUS 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Maybe combine finance and career? Stick man holding briefcase with a dollar sign?

    [–]Randomwaves 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

    I'm not that educated in red pill stuff. So question, is red pill anti marriage?

    [–]MortalSisyphus 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Just read the OP... a "suboptimal situation" that is "just a bad deal for men all around." No way that can be interpreted as anything except anti-marriage.

    [–]oth_trp_throwaway 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    TRP has no moral stance on marriage (or any form of sexual strategy). Individual TRPers have different opinions though.

    Here's what TRP seems to agree on:

    A committed, cohesive family unit is the best way to raise children. All the statistics show that single moms are far, far more likely to have fucked up kids.

    However, getting married in 2016 America involves signing a contract that essentially allows your wife to file for divorce and ruin your life any time she chooses, take away the house you paid for, garnish your future wages, and send you to jail if you lose your job and can't pay (though frequently the state just does that without asking the wife first). Just check out any of the many horror stories on TRP (there's at least 1 in this comments section), and you can see for yourself why getting married is just a shitty idea all around.

    Obviously, some women make better wives than others (cue the triggered feminists). TRP believes in traditional relationship dynamics in LTRs (male headship, women taking care of the children, etc.) So if you want kids, find a nice traditional girl with a low/zero partner count (yes there are still some out there), and don't just wife the first bitch who sucks your cock. Then, either cohabitate with her, or have a wedding ceremony and call yourself married, but don't fucking sign that contract. (And check your state's common law marriage criteria! You might be legally enslaved married and not know it). Whether you want to be monogamous, or fuck around on the side, or believe in God, or whatever is up to you.

    But, some men don't want kids. And/or they decide to move to a more traditional, less cucked country before having them, where marriage actually means something. So a lot of people say "DON'T MARRY". And for them, there is no reason they'd ever even consider it.

    Also, there are some men who bought the feminized BS hook, line, and sinker, and went ahead and got married anyway before discovering RP. If those men tell you to get married, they're probably just trying to rationalize their own bad choices in life (hamstering).

    (Disclaimer: I'm a teenager and not terribly experienced with any of this. This is all just textbook RP stuff that everyone seems to unanimously agree on.)

    [–]NotUpToAnythingGood 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's more that RP doesn't care about marriage. The theory is more or less neutral regarding marriage.

    Several of the people here are strongly against marriage in its current form as it gives too much power and latitude to the woman while taking away nearly all the power from the guy. Oh and it (typically) makes the guy responsible for the costs.

    Given that TRP is about self-improvement and enjoying the rewards that come with being excellent, it's not a leap to extend that toward actions that have little/no return on investment.

    So in a nutshell, modern marriage to a modern woman is generally a bad idea due to the social and legal constructs and the power balance.

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      [–]RedCrayonWizard 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I don't see being married as a bad deal completely, but because I don't want kids, it may not be for me. I'm coming to terms with that. But for guys who are, they are here because they know that the cards are stacked against them and want to lead their ship. It's not an easy path to take, but this place is good for guys that want to retake their rightful place as the Captain.

      [–]maratas 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Thank you for this new flair. I have been following TRP for almost two years now. Indeed I have learnt a lot, improved a lot. Most important of all, I am seeing the world with new eys now. Your efforts to spread the worldview of TRP has changed me for good. I will never see sexual dynamics the same way I did in my BP days.

      This month I am getting married. In part I've made this decision due to my strong preference for family, in part due to my strong Catholic convictions. I have read MRP sub for some time, but dropped it after a few months.

      I very much hope to learn a lot from posts under the new flair.

      [–]DirtyProject0r 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Quote from my father:

      "You know why I am happy I have never married your mother and we still are happily together for over 40 years while all your friends' parents have divorced? Because when I say I can walk away any day, minute or second, she knows it is not just bluff."

      [–]nargin0 -1ポイント0ポイント  (7子コメント)

      This is a great start!

      Are there any plans to add RPW style user flair? For example my RPW flair is "Late 30s, Married 12 years, Together 18, Male". It might be useful to include children. I think this is helpful for evaluating advice. I know priorities can be quite different particularly after kids and after many years. Often on MRP I see a lot of advice and think back to how that used to make sense before kids or in the first few years.

      Edit: removed link to r / RedPillWomen / wiki / flairs

      [–]redpillcynic 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Might as well link to Facebook and LinkedIn if you wanna get doxxed.

      [–]Modredpillschool[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

      I'm going to discuss this with the mods- we don't want to take away from the endorsed contributor tags, but I think this might be a good idea in general.

      Will get back to you.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorMentORPHEUS 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

      One data point in this consideration should be a look at the page aesthetics on PPD where there are all manner of custom flairs. It's a clusterfuck to try to seriously read and learn with that format, which is befitting to some PPD and all TBP content. Having a limited set might work; it's really down to Reddit not having a "user profile" function, or something like an old fashioned .sig at the end of the post.

      Personally I find the thread readability harmed more than the gain in context benefits it, on RPW, compared to the clean look/feel of TRP.

      Whatever you do, please don't start allowing those picture flairs, with different and not-small sized pictures. claws out eyeballs

      [–]LuckyLittleStar 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

      I tend to agree. I think that users' posts should be judged by what they say, rather than who they are. Not to mention that the more customizable a flair is, the less useful it is to get information from.

      [–]nargin0 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

      That's the difference between theory and implementation. Works of abstract theory stand on their own. It's the handling of unexpected and unanticipated details when translating theory to the real-world that makes the difference. The history of science proves this all the time. It's pretty much taken for granted that the best theoreticians make lousy experimentalists (and the reverse is true as well). Ivory tower theoreticians don't need flair.

      Do you think RPW flair should be abolished?

      [–]LuckyLittleStar 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

      There are reasons I don't like them, however I also don't feel that strongly about it. So, I am not going to put that much effort into defending my position.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorMentORPHEUS 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Same. It works on RPW better than it would here.

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