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Some old, but interesting, comments from Philipp Lahm (self.reddevils)

AlpacamyLlama が 投稿

"Lahm believes van Gaal had “high expectations.” But, he argues, the coach was unwilling to budge from his philosophies and or try new things. Under him, defender Lahm writes, Bayern Munich neglected defence and focused on scoring as many goals as possible.

On many occasions, Lahm says he spoke with van Gaal about the situation. But, he said the coach pretended to listen, then seemed to ignore him.

Also,

Bayern Munich skipper Philipp Lahm is not shocked by the news that head coach Louis van Gaal will leave the club at the end of the season and made it clear that FCB simply can't afford a season without success.

"That is the way things are when you are at Bayern - if you are not successful, then you have to face the consequences and I think that is absolutely right," Lahm was quoted as saying by Bild.

"Bayern have the aim to be the number one all the time and always win titles. If that does not happen, then questions are asked of everything and that is what has happened this season."

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[–]FlytanxLVG 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

And this is why Bayern is the best run club in the world.

-injects youth -buys players to fill gaps -board puts football above money making (in turn it makes them money) -won't settle for bs managers who constantly fail

[–]MylesVEGiggs 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Any German worth his salt will sign for them. Any player that breaks through in the German league they normally have already sniffed around at. Et cetera

[–]elneebreMata 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

The board can't settle for mediocrity just because money is coming in

[–]black_squireMartial 1ポイント2ポイント  (15子コメント)

Lahm says it was the Dutchman who kickstarted Bayern's recent success at home and abroad.

"He introduced a clearer focus on tactics and our modern style was born."

"He's a real hard worker. it's difficult to go right into the smallest details of tactics but Van Gaal is willing to. Not everyone liked it, but I love tactics, so it was interesting to me."

"Van Gaal would admit to making mistakes here - or maybe not - but he was the right man at the right time for Bayern."

"Louis van Gaal can be credited for implementing a playing philosophy, which made us very successful in the first season,"

All from the same Phillip Lahm.

Bonus: "Many players, including myself, can be very grateful to him," Robben told German magazine Sport-Bild. "For me, he is still one of the best coaches in the world."

EDIT: you lot on this sub are absolutely pathetic. You'd gobble anything that fits your narrative. I've just given you quotes from the exact same Lahm that reflect positively on LVG, but you'll downvote it because it doesn't fit your narrative that he's a shit manager.

2 world class players giving him credit for the work he did with them but you take the bias twisted version of a Reddit user. What a load shit. You lot aren't interested in facts. Pathetic

[–]AlpacamyLlama[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh absolutely. There is no doubt Lahm credits him for the start of Bayern having a new tactical approach. But it's also made clear by him, as well as others, that it wasn't until Heynckes came in that Bayern truly kicked on.

It's not uncommon for players to be enthralled with new managers, but it seems Lahm definitely knew that van Gaal was restricted in what he could do.

[–]black_squireMartial -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nope. All that was said after LVG left. Nothing about being enthralled. That's how the guy feels. He also felt LVG didn't want to adjust in his second year but he still said he was important for bringing them into modern football.

No Lahm definitely didn't know LVG was limited in what he could do. Never said anything like that. You've taken quotes by Lahm and put your on bias on it.

I hate when people do shit like this. It's not even about supporting LVG or anything. It's about representing the facts as they truly are without trying to put some shit spin on it.

Where did Lahm say it wasn't until Heynckes they started kicking on and what others said that ?

[–]jbiresqHerrera 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

he was the right man at the right time for Bayern

That makes a lot of sense and he did stabilize them and bring them success after the Klinsmann debacle. Which is what I think most people give LVG credit for at United. But Bayern realized when it was time to move on to someone better.

[–]black_squireMartial -2ポイント-1ポイント  (5子コメント)

You mean right after they gave him a contract extension ? You realize he'd signed an extension before he got in a piss contest with Uli Hoeness and got fired. He wasn't moved on because he was limited. That was what Uli came out and said but wasn't the case. Nothing changed between when he got his contract extension and when he got fired other than his fight with Uli Hoeness

[–]jbiresqHerrera 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

He got his contract extension at the beginning of his second season. After the season went to shit, they announced he'd leave a year early. They then sacked him when he lost third place in the Bundesliga. So performances warranted him being sacked regardless of whether him and Uli Hoeness were fighting.

Here's a whole list of his failings at Bayern: http://www.si.com/more-sports/2011/04/14/vangaal-bayern

[–]black_squireMartial 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Van Gaal and Uli started fighting in November. Losing 3rd was just an excuse. They had a poor start to the season because 9 of their important players were in the World Cup for quite some time.

[–]jbiresqHerrera 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

He also pissed off Rummenigge and Nerlinger. He wouldn't listen to advice. He fell out with Mark van Bommel and sold him with 6 months left on this contract despite him being an important voice in the dressing room. He didn't want to strengthen the squad. Why are you excusing him so much?

[–]black_squireMartial 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not excusing him. I'm providing facts that are conveniently missing from most people's account of these stories.

What does selling Van Bommel who had a voice have to do with anything ? Lahm was his captain.

I won't deny the man is stubborn. But you can't just chuck him aside and say he did nothing good when Lahm himself said he brought Bayern into modern football and Robben says himself and several players have him to thank for what they are. That's not for nothing.

[–]manudevil7Beckham 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's also had similar issues during his second tenure at Barcelona. He mightily struggled in La Liga, dragged them to 12th (because they struggled to beat lower teams, like Real Vallecano, sound familiar?). He was 20 points behind Real Sociedad when he was sacked.

His transfers failed, too. Players like Enke and Mendieta. He fell out with Rivaldo (sound familiar), let him go for free, he joined AC Milan, and won the UCL during the same season.

[–]manudevil7Beckham 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

Someone said it best in another thread:

"LvG is right when he says we are in a transition, however, his part of the transition phase is over."

I believe that rings true with Lahm's comments as well. He came in and stabilized Bayern, but after that, it was time to move on. Bayern appointed Heynckes, and the rest is history.

I believe we're also in a similar situation. He came in and stabilized the club, at least as much as possible after Moyes, and now it's time for a serial winner to come in and take us to the next level.

[–]black_squireMartial -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

He more than stabilized that team. He took them to their first CL final in ages. He brought them into modern football. That's not just a transition thing. He laid a hell of a foundation and probably would have done more had he not got into a pissing contest with Uli Hoeness

[–]manudevil7Beckham 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

When I said stabilize, I meant in reference to what Klinsmann left.

LvG has done as much as he can here, and it's time for him to leave in the summer. He introduced some great youth prospects, signed Martial, and signed Memphis (remains to be seen if he can do better next season).

He has set the foundation for the next manager to build on. Unfortunately for him, the results have not been there. At the end of the day, football is a results business.

It's time for us to bring in someone who can get results immediately. Although it's not guaranteed, Jose Mourinho is the closest thing to guarantee immediate results as they come.

[–]black_squireMartial -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Lol yet he's gotten better results than Mourinho did with a much better squad.

Aside from a poor December run, were 2nd in the league behind Leicester only. But go on. I really don't care. I'll just keep sharing these facts.

[–]manudevil7Beckham 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Mourinho wanted to sign players in the summer, but the board refused. He wanted to sign players like Shaw, Martial, Sanches, etc, but he couldn't, since Chelsea's financial strength is nowhere near that of United's.

All squads need adjustments after winning the league. Barcelona needed to bring in additional players this past summer after winning the treble. Everyone needs to sign new players.

[–]black_squireMartial 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

To a fucking league winning team. A team that has lost just 2 League game since he got fired. We performed better than them with a newly put together team. I don't care what Mourinho wanted. LVG also wanted a CB, a pacy and creative winger and another striker. Got none and has brought his team thus far even through an injury crises. Mourinho couldn't get a title winning team to win more than 5 games by December. How do you even attempt to rationalize that ?