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[–]EjuiceMafia_Michael 95ポイント96ポイント  (95子コメント)

I'm sorry you've had to go through this. Please. Everyone just stop ordering from them. I hijacked their their mailing list from soudest and I'll be sending out a mass email to everyone warning them. I don't care about consent at this point. I was "let go" of about a month ago. Since i never signed any paperwork I'm going to do an AMA for you guys. Any pictures, screen shots, etc will released. They screwed me out of $895 (my last paycheck). So!! Piss on them.

[–]BrandonRawks 7ポイント8ポイント  (11子コメント)

Wow, I can't wait for this! You always came off to me as a decent dude put into a horrible situation and given an impossible job. As for the owed money, check with your state's workforce commission. They might be able to help. Even if they can't though, look at it like this - it only cost you $895 to get out of a massively messed up situation with no future.

[–]EjuiceMafia_Michael 8ポイント9ポイント  (10子コメント)

Yea i am actually filing a complaint Monday for it. They are so shady. His brother(s) and wife are all in on the sham too.

I never thought about it that way either. Kinda cheap of you do that way ha ha!

[–]BrandonRawks 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah, I think that came to light a few months ago (along with other businesses, some vape related, some not. Good on you for filing the complaint. Anything you can do to bring these guys down. Good luck on getting your money back though, seriously. I hope you are able to.

[–]EjuiceMafia_Michael 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yea we just had a baby. My wife is still on leave. We could have definitely used the money ha ha. They are seriously dbags over there. They treat everyone bad. Employees and customers alike.

[–]Vapecentric 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Congrats on the kid! I hope you get your pay from these guys. I've read a lot of complaints about this company here, and I can't understand how they're still in business.

[–]EjuiceMafia_Michael 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Me either. Hopefully with enthusiasm legit chargebacks they will be soon.

[–]Honestyforsale 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

Depending on your state, I wouldn't even bother. Small claims all the way. Super easy to sue people and win if your legitimately got taken. No lawyers, just bring in your proof etc. Probably a lot quicker as well

[–]EjuiceMafia_Michael 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yea that's the plan. He doesn't quite understand he is wrong. Also if you look through their post history with whiknowswho2 and others you'll see he uses intimidation as much as possible.

[–]Honestyforsale 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

I wouldn't even screw with it. File it first thing tomorrow-sue for any late fees that bills have charges you, rent etc. Sue for the time it takes you to put together the suit, any paperwork fees...any cent you can prove was lost or spent. Most states have a $5000 limit and is incredibly easy to file, win-if you can prove it. I'd also starting screenshotting all of the complaints here to show their integrity. I can't believe-shocked really-they came on just to address you but didn't bother addressing op...or any other op. Scum!!!

[–]EjuiceMafia_Michael 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yea. Of course they wouldn't address the people that give them money. They are scum bags. I was the ONLY person who gave a shit about their customers. I still receive emails from people on here. I just tell them to file a charge back. Their system is laughable at best.

[–]Honestyforsale 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sue em dude... You should create a shell account and give the people who got f'd the owners personal cell #/email ;)

[–]EjuiceMafia_Michael 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

They had like 11 pending chargebacks in January. So hopefully their merchant drops them soon.

[–]Tonker_ 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

Please do an AMA! You could be the next Snowden haha. I know you've been shit on by this sub quite a bit, but now is your time to shine! Blow that whistle bruh.

[–]EjuiceMafia_Michael 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

It was very much warranted. I understand why peoole did it. This company is a joke and just left me out to dry. I worked endless hours sifting through 100+ emails a night (yes they got 60 complaints a day about mess ups, chargebacks, and lawyers from Trademark infringement). Then they just drop me for no reason and don't pay me the close to $900 they owe me. I'll tell everything i know.

[–]ltjboy03Reuleaux DNA200 / Goblin Mini V2 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Dude, it's been 3 days. Where's the AMA!?!?!?! Surely, OP will deliver.

[–]EjuiceMafia_Michael 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Once i figure out what i need for my case. I'll disclose everything. I wasn't going to go that route til they came in just to try and make a point and only address me and not the guy with the current issue. Then I figired I'd try.

So i don't want to spill everything and show my hand.

[–]ltjboy03Reuleaux DNA200 / Goblin Mini V2 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Understood. Do me a favor and tag me when you post it. i don't want to miss it.

Or not. I'll find it.

[–]WhoKnowsWho2♥️❤️ Shills ❤️♥️ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't worry. It'll get upvoted

[–]El3mentGamerΩ - the magnificent 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

They took almost $900 of your deserved paycheck?

If you put in the time, and was not paid; that's against the law. Sue them motherfuckers..

[–]EjuiceMafia_Michael 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yea it was all earned. I was owed 1200. The "ran the numbers" and sent me $183. I'm sure it's a big joke for them. I pulled them out of the shitter and they just took advantage of me.

[–]El3mentGamerΩ - the magnificent 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wouldnt put up with that. That's YOUR money that YOUVE earned.

Hope your solution goes as planned and you get your well-deserved, cold, hard, dolla bills.

Really looking forward to the AMA and hearing the final resolution.

[–]ChoofKoofVaporflask by Vaporshark + Narda 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

They screwed me of about $115 Canadian last November and I just let it go because They were being extremely difficult. Glad you're no longer with that shitty excuse of a company.

[–]EjuiceMafia_Michael 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

That sucks you got burned for that money. They were near impossible to have a good experience with

[–]ejuicemafia 8ポイント9ポイント  (52子コメント)

/u/ejuicemafia_michael how about you tell everyone the truth on how you were stealing from the company by sending yourself free product??? Making your own gift cards and discounts to where the product was shown it was paid for and in reality you were STEALING. We even deducted the amount you stole and paid you the difference. How about you tell everyone that!?!?? How you would log in the middle of the night and place an order with gift cards that you created for yourself! Listen We have already filed criminal complaints against you for stealing and now for STEALING and admitting to stealing an email list you put the nail in your coffin btw we also feel people should know who you really are /u/vapingsmooth check out his shill review on idripejuice peeps

Edit: that's customers personal info. I hope your ready for what you just said you did. That's a decent amount of time in the slammer.

[–]EjuiceMafia_Michael 86ポイント87ポイント  (4子コメント)

Ha ha. Now they show up. The gift cards were given to me by the owner. VapingSmooth is my main. They told me I could order juice to "try the house juice line"...

Any other brain buster?

[–]Thundernut 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

You should screencap all of this and call the labor board. By holding your paycheck he broke the law as a business owner regardless of what you did. Take em' down.

[–]Honestyforsale 60ポイント61ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, now you take the time to comment?!!! /u/ejuicemafia We are supposed to believe that your employee was ripping you off when people everyday page you on Reddit, write you emails and try to get orders resolved. Of course your going to try and flip the script. Why don't you address the customers asking where their money, products or credits are??? Or, just hide and avoid the situation like you've been doing for months???

[–]EjuiceMafia_Michael 57ポイント58ポイント  (22子コメント)

Also. You owed me 900 and i ordered a total $225 (retail) of house juice. So please tell me how you figured out $183 was what i was owed... you guys can't even math right. You screw iver EVERYONE aslong as you turn a profit. Tell them about your Kuwait customers and how you know for a fact you can't import illegal ejuice into the country, but it's a moral code for them that they can't do charge backs... so Kuwait was like a little walking ATM machine for you.

[–]ejuicemafia -4ポイント-3ポイント  (21子コメント)

Listen the local DA office already has all the evidence against you. So stop lying. And we ship to Kuwait every day. Your sadly mistaken and lying again. Literally ship to Kuwait every single day.

[–]EjuiceMafia_Michael 55ポイント56ポイント  (11子コメント)

Also why would you report directly to the District Attorney? That isn't the correct "chain of command".

[–]ejuicemafia 0ポイント1ポイント  (10子コメント)

Once your case is open you contact DA directly. We just contacted Springdale county police department for stealing customer info. Keep it up bud.

[–]Honestyforsale 102ポイント103ポイント  (1子コメント)

You ship to Kuwait everyday but not your us customers? Almost believable

[–]JManRomania 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

/u/ejuicemafia doesn't ship to kuwait, they just scam them

they're an actual mafia, and have killed several people

[–]EjuiceMafia_Michael 40ポイント41ポイント  (4子コメント)

We both know that i didn't have access to soundest and my IP will never show on there mate.

[–]DarthSully 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

Micheal... They lifted the embargo in Kuwait... But yeah they're punk ass bitches :(. I'm sorry

[–]Wildkid133 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is the only source I could find on that, but I felt like a source was needed.

http://248am.com/mark/information/vapes-and-e-juices-now-legal-to-import-into-kuwait/

[–]DarthSully 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm a Kuwaiti... So I spoke out of experience since been ordering from TBDLiquids for a while now :D.

But yeah a guess a source other than me is nice

[–]WhoKnowsWho2♥️❤️ Shills ❤️♥️ 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Did you open a case against abarf by now?

[–]Abarf 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

LOLOL NEVER FORGET! ;)

Ejuice Mafia can eat a Hyena's ass with Heinz tomato ketchup!.

All I ever did was google these idiots, take the results and package them up together showing all kinds of shady stuff going on.

The question is when shit really starts catching up to them when will they pack it up and take off to whatever country they came from?

[–]lllilllillil 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ejuice Mafia can eat a Hyena's ass with Heinz tomato ketchup nothing on it but MSG to enhance the flavor!.

[–]EjuiceMafia_Michael 31ポイント32ポイント  (0子コメント)

Okay. That's why there were dozens of emails asking "where my ejuice... i send you dollars but still no juice... how you get ejuice across border with no customs taked my juice..."

[–]sof_1062 25ポイント26ポイント  (2子コメント)

The police that you filed the report with would have told you that: A: They can't do anything about what someone says they are going to do unless it is a threat on a life. B: The police would have also told you that you are to not have contact with the alleged perpetrator of said crime. C: You idiots have lied in the past about criminal charges when in fact they would have been civil charges. D: You guys are fucking knobs.

[–]rivinhalKBOX 200W/Toptank Mini 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Exactly. If there is a real case involved here (I don't believe it for a damn second) EJM Michael could literally screencap this stuff and present it at court and prove that EJM broke the clause that doesn't allow them to have contact.

And beyond that, without actual proof of the theft, this would be a civil case with an order for damages, not criminal charges. They literally can't make a criminal case from this without proof of theft. Otherwise it's civil. And honestly? Being that this a case of "he said, she said", I doubt the court system would even take a case like this.

TLDR; EJuiceMafia is full of crap. They're bloated liars who make garbage juice and then don't even deliver it. Swindlers of the worst kind (not worst as in, heinous, but worst as in they're really bad at it...) lol. It's a shame vultures like this even exist in the industry.

I doubt anyone who speaks english is going to order from that abattoir now though...

[–]SkepticSloth 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The only thing EJM seems to be good at is setting themselves up for libel and defamation suits from their ex-employees.

I think whoever issued them a business license needs to be informed what they're doing. And before EM puffs up their chest at me, it's not illegal to do that.

I also think that everyone who's been ripped off by them need to gang up and contact the state attorney general of the state they do business in, they tend to frown on mail fraud. Which this is. And it's also not illegal to do.

[–]mrbillSig30/150, 3xHana, SuBox, VTCmini 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

So you ship to Kuwait but yet still can't get orders in the US delivered properly...

[–]ltjboy03Reuleaux DNA200 / Goblin Mini V2 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

And we ship to Kuwait every day.

  1. At least you ship to somebody

  2. taking orders from Kuwait, and shipping to Kuwait - is not the same thing.

[–]JManRomania 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Listen the local DA office already has all the evidence against you.

No, they don't, you assclown. I'm part of the Federal team investigating you, and let me tell you, you're going to jail for a very long time.

You thought you could hide your R.I.C.O. actions, by playfully calling yourselves a "mafia"?

Well, I've got news for you. You're an actual mafia, and on top of us, MS-13 is looking to kill you guys.

[–]EjuiceMafia_Michael 31ポイント32ポイント  (0子コメント)

I won a $100 gift card for you feom Reddit and you gave me a $100 gift card to order a TFV4 for testing our shitty house juice against the TFV4s ORings. So please get your story straight mate.

[–]Vapes7a 26ポイント27ポイント  (0子コメント)

iDrip is EJM's fucking sister site, you clown. If he was "shilling" for anyone, it was for you.

[–]Zpedd 24ポイント25ポイント  (2子コメント)

My big question is what gives you the right to deduct anything? Even if he stole 5 grand, you still LEGALLY have to pay him his final paycheck and go through the proper strokes to press charges. So what I'm getting from this whole thread is that this gentleman was shorted on pay, and you're coming out with a story that MAY or MAY NOT be true, but regardless, admitted to deducting money from his pay.

[–]wineberry_over_golddry knuckles 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

which is illegal and suffers a heavy penalty.

report this motherfucker, fuck them

[–]AtelloVelocity V2 + Noisy Cricket 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

EJM is just begging to get audited.

[–]BrandonRawks 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

Your own reputation speaks quite loudly enough for folks to figure out what's going on here.

[–]ranma_one_half 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seems like ejm illegally with held an employees pay check and then said employee ejm_m took it on himself to retaliate by taking company property.
I don't know who to side with here.
Ejm needs to get its house in order though. This is no way to run a business.

[–]ScoliasOff the smokes since July 2010 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

As a business owner, you probably shouldn't be committing libel in a public forum unless you want everything you have to be taken to the cleaners.

[–]InfiniteRhombusSubox + Zephyrus 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

nah man its cool his lawyer said it was, his imaginary lawyer.

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[–]YesThisIsDohner 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol it's like it's run by a 12 year old

[–]LinkLovesTacosUWell Crown/M80Plus 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

You sound like every money hungry and drunk with power boss I've ever had. Have fun being miserable.

[–]KimJongsLicenseToIll 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Suck a dick. I want my money back for the juice I never got.

[–]DoTheJohnWallBattery Fumes Max VG 3mg 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can have the 240mls of garbage I bought from their xmas sale. I've used like 15 mls, and most of that was shit that spilled out of their terrible bottles.

[–]CantFoolTheCity 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your company is a joke, I hope every employee you have steals from you until you're out of business.

[–]prgrmmrx 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Regardless of what you did, he did, or she did, any successful business owner would realize that arguing about it publicly over a reddit post like a child is not conducive to a successful business. Totally unprofessional. 0/10

[–]ltjboy03Reuleaux DNA200 / Goblin Mini V2 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That just looks like a review to me. Nothing shill about it.

[–]Abarf 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pics or it didnt happen.. what's next threaten to sue him too? GTFO losers.

We already showed easily googleable evidence that your family members already posted positive reviews on your own head shop and pizzeria and that you have a propensity of shady dealings. Go away..

[–]JManRomania 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Commit libel in public even more, you fucking retards.

Our investigation team is just LOVING the trail you've smeared all over the internet.

Expect to say hello to our team in a few days, they'll have a warrant by then.

That's a decent amount of time in the slammer.

not as long as you are going to jail for

[–]Herpidy_derp 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can't tell if sarcasm or not but do you really think anyone would believe that a federal agency would post on Reddit disclosing details about an investigation?

[–]_AcidIPV4s w/ Uwell Crown 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol you're companies going to end up in the shitter. Sad but also funny to watch you implode.

[–]Kieth8268[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

I am sorry to hear about your pay problem, hopefully you can get it squared away....sounds like they even screw over their employees...what a Joke of a company!!!

[–]EjuiceMafia_Michael 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yea it just sucks cause my wife and I just had a baby too. So we could definitely have used the money while she is on leave. They really screwed me over. They were very flakey.

[–]Kieth8268[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I know that feeling, me and my wife had our second last July, one of the reasons I hate being ripped off for $50 lol I guess 900 is quite a bit more..but if its any consolation just had to come off $1000 for car repairs on my wifes car.

[–]InertiaCreepingEVOD + T4, cus I'm a mad cunt. 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

What I don't understand is...

... there is a shit-tonne of money in selling juice. Why don't they just send the juice out? It doesn't cost a whole lot to make...

Selling a product with massive profit margins. You would make much, much, much more money if you continually sell it?

Much confuse

[–]Vapes7a 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're assuming the seller in this case is a rational, decent businessperson. He/they isn't/aren't. EJM is run by fucking idiots of the highest order.