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Self-proclaimed "Sharia Police" in Germany to stand Trial on the grounds of violating laws against wearing uniforms with political messages (dw.com)

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[–]natha105 616ポイント617ポイント  (72子コメント)

This is a great conflict between freedom of speech and a country that has a very specific history that says "do you want genocide? because this is how you get genocide."

[–]lysergic_as_fuck 105ポイント106ポイント  (15子コメント)

the UK has a good middle ground, we ban political uniforms during marches.

[–]NoFucksGiver 181ポイント182ポイント  (4子コメント)

so on all other months it's ok?

[–]icallmyselfmonster [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

What are the months of an orange calendar.

January, February, March, March , March , March. . .

[–]zenmn [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You just made this man from Northern Ireland's day.

[–]SarraMinovsky [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

The pun was terriawesome. It is as though you are a giver of no fucks, comedically speaking.

[–]EnzoYug 27ポイント28ポイント  (8子コメント)

Because... The troubles.

[–]nogdam 23ポイント24ポイント  (7子コメント)

No, because the British Union of Fascists.

[–]Barry_Scotts_Cat [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

"Hurrah the blackshirts" - Daily Mail

[–]TimHortonReborn [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Now the Daily Mail is just "Hurrah the Kardashians".

[–]FaildAttempt [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

ELI5

[–]EtheyB [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

The British Union of Fascists wore a black uniform kind of like that of the German SA. The supporters were called Blackshirts. My guess is that ever since WW2 the British government banned political uniforms to avoid organisations like the BUF.

[–]magikPolarBear [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

During the 80s-90s there was an alarming number of fascists in Britain, namely two different groups, one more radical than the other. To combat their rise, radical leftists and communists (among others) rose up and formed groups known as "Squads" to fight back. There's a fantastic book on the subject, "No Retreat: The Secret War Between Britain's Anti-Fascists and the Far-Right"

Edit: Those who know more pls add on or correct me

[–]nogdam [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The original British Nazis, they never really got off the ground, but did try and take on the Police once in East London.

[–]drpinkcream [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What if they skip instead?

[–]Trusty_Sidekick [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I would argue that "Sharia Police" hardly represents freedom of speech.

[–]HavocInferno [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

freedom of speech should end when it gets in the way of someone else's.

[–]racerx52 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Gross

[–]natha105 [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

Did it? Did they assault someone? They have not been charged with assault. Did they shut down a counter-protest or prevent others from speaking out against them? Because they have not been charged with that. Did they do anything other than go around advocating (perhaps well, perhaps poorly) for a religious philosophy that they believe in?

I mean look if you told me that they had been out one night on "patrol" and a drunk driver had plowed into them killing them all, I would probably say "oh my gosh. I hope the driver's ok." But I don't view what they are doing as falling outside one of the traditionally understood boundaries of commonly understood free speech.

[–]cutofmyjib [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

Does no one read the article?

They weren't advocating a philosophy they were demanding people adhere to their philosophy.

Wearing orange vests, emblazoned with the words "Shariah police," the defendants allegedly demanded people at nightclubs stop drinking alcohol and listening to music.
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The bearded fundamentalists were also observed calling for an end to gambling as they carried notices, in English, declaring a "Sharia Controlled Zone."

[–]umadbroo [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

the people simply just don't listen, words have NO REAL EFFECT.

[–]natha105 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

demanding is just speech. It only crosses the line when your demands are accompanied by physical force or the threat thereof. People protest outside abortion clinics demanding they be shut down. That is free speech as distasteful as it is.

[–]BenDover19 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Reddit generally only likes free speech if it suits them...

[–]radiant_waffle [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

They were trying to shut down parties and places of drinking/gambling. As far as I know that IS illegal.

[–]natha105 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It depends how. People picket outside abortion clinics demanding they be shut down. That is freedom of speech.

[–]wallace321 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I thinking they crossed some kind of line from speech to ACTING. Dontcha think? Weren't they intimidating people, face to face, with threats of violence?

"Intimidation or provocation won't be tolerated,"

Right. This wasn't about mere "speech". This was "do what i say or there will be consequences" - those are threats.

[–]natha105 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Then charge them with threatening. That is a crime in most places.

[–]moeburn [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Uh, Germany is like the opposite of freedom of speech

[–]Anon32465 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

As things are going now, it's inevitable.