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Self-proclaimed "Sharia Police" in Germany to stand Trial on the grounds of violating laws against wearing uniforms with political messages (dw.com)

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[–]natha105 178ポイント179ポイント  (19子コメント)

This is a great conflict between freedom of speech and a country that has a very specific history that says "do you want genocide? because this is how you get genocide."

[–]crbiker [スコア非表示]  (18子コメント)

Since when has Germany had freedom of speech?

[–]One_Wheel_Drive [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

There's more to Germany than what you've read on Reddit.

[–]crbiker [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

They're not allowed to wear/talk positively of the Nazis. That's anti-free speech.

[–]One_Wheel_Drive [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Even in America, with the 1st Amendment, there are limitations to freedom of speech. For example, inciting violence and crime is against the law and libel and slander could land you in civil courts. By your logic, these are anti-free speech.

[–]TheReverendZ [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Or yelling, "Fire!" in a building.

[–]NewtAgain [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

You can yell fire , as long as you aren't yelling it in a way that will incite panic.

[–]snackshack [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You can yell fire , as long as you aren't yelling it in a way that will incite panic.

I think the term is "immediate lawless action", but yes. Anybody who doubts /u/NewtAgain : research Brandenburg v Ohio.

[–]BurkeyTurger [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Those are still less restrictive than blanket bans of Nazi related things and all of the recent Erdogan bullshit

Someone dressing up like an Nazi and goosestepping around doesn't hurt anyone whereas speech that is limited here is specifically restricted to prevent harm/danger to others.

[–]kabhaal87 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Since 1949, though until 1990 the country was divided between the between the western side and the communist controlled east. Germans (from what I"ve seen living in Germany) are big fans of their rights to freedom of expression and assembly but will rally against anything that even has a whiff of facist on it.

[–]infinitemile [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

well, 1990 according to Wikipedia