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Mozilla_Fennekin · 1時間前

Hey, man, it's good to see you here.

Since I don't want to turn you away with a long post, I'll try making this quick:

I think the problem is you've simply been more aggressive than normal. When you burned people like Nicole Arbour, it was because she was doing legitimately bad things. But when you burn someone like Markiplier or 1010010010101011 or w/e the fuck his username is, it's harsh because they're trying to do the right thing. Yeah, they didn't do it right, and they're not free of criticism by any means, but personal attacks... eh, they're just not worth it. And I know you think of them as jokes, but you know who else makes personal attacks and labels them as humor? Leafy. I don't want Leafy. I want Grade.

yourefuIlofshit · 1時間前

A lot of these comments are geared towards the recent Youtube video. The problem is this shit on this very sub: https://www.reddit.com/r/GradeAUnderA/comments/4ht7fr/transparency_is_key_more_info_in_comments/

One of the Mods has decided to come out and tell the rest of the community that behind the scenes you have been pulling this shit. You literally criticise people for pulling similar dishonest stunts in your videos all the time and you do it yourself. How can you be trusted? Your character is a bad one.

Putting all this shit aside - it's just so off putting that every time I see your video I will be reminded of your shenanigans. This is my stop - I get off here.

Englishhedgehog13 · 1時間前

I didn't have a single problem with you calling Markiplier retarded, the problem I had was you saying that we shouldn't take him seriously because he dyed his hair (for charity) and very clearly appeals to a younger demographic. Even harder when you're known as the stick man with the silly accent. Does that mean I shouldn't take you seriously? Not to mention that Mark has the type of channel that's just about getting his thoughts out there, he hasn't ever claimed to run by a script. That's how being human works, sometimes you have something to say, even if you're not quite sure what your point is.

Love your vids man, but this one problem stuck out through the entire vid.

PaintWithRazorblades · 1時間前

I just don't get it, so you can acceot criticism, yet when your "VIP club" of supporters disagree with you, you say "After this, I'm going to stop visiting this subreddit altogether." and that's that? Alright m8

JCAPER · 1時間前

Well, guess that's that. It has been a good ride while it lasted grade, but this is my stop.

Have a good one

drneroli · 1時間前

I think all in all you should largely stray away from ad hominem attacks on character, the way someone presents them self is no bearing on the way they think, you of all people should appreciate that fact.

Divine_Chaos100 · 1時間前

"So if I'm mean/critical to Nicole Arbour, its fine, but if I do the same to Markiplier, it's bad? That's unfair. That's favouritism. You can't have one set of rules and another for someone else."

It is, because Nicole Arbour is a stupid cow, and Markiplier didn't want to fuck with you, so you're called him retarded for no reason. Those videos weren't made against you, and the backlash (i don't think that it was more than a few "GradeA is a drama whore"-comments) was generated from stupid people misinterpreting the videos. The videos were made to stop Keemstar literally right after the allegations against Toby Turner. So i feel that the hate they got from you was unjustified.

Edit: Markiplier even left a comment on your "community guidelines" video saying thank you.

jatie1 · 58分前

This isn't the person I subscribed to

danmarieee · 1時間前

So why didn't you address Keemstar in a video that specifically was talking about drama?

Also, I get wanting to take care of your parents, many would agree to that. But I can't help but think that if you showed them the kind of videos Keemstar makes, the things he's done in the past, and what he does now, they wouldn't be so enthused about that money. There's just better ways to reach that goal than to getting into deals with Keem, directly or indirectly. I mean, just take a look at what's happened.

You just had so many other options. Talk about Mark being irresponsible.

jajolt · 1時間前

Grade, let me start off by saying your content is great and I agree that certain aspects are being blown out of proportion. I don't think the money whore thing is fully justified. I work a customer service job and I get paid, but I still don't want to be yelled at by a customer because I made a mistake because I was tired. I think it's the same here, being paid doesn't mean you can't share your opinions on the way you think about others because you're being paid for what they like. You're not a "money whore" for having feelings about the way people think about you. That said, you are in a spotlight. And if you go after someone as direct as you have been, you're bound to get called out on it. As as much of a right you have to reply to them, they (and others) have the right to respond to you. It's a self fulfilling prophecy.

There is quite a difference between markiplier and Nicole Arbour. Markiplier is one of the nicest guys on the Internet and on YouTube. Nicole Arbour is a fat hating dickbag attention whore who targeted all the insecurities of overweight people for views. Thus, going after Markiplier is not equivalent to attacking Nicole Arbour. Moreover, Mark himself has said that it was more of a rant video, and his primary audience is children, so in a video addressing something as mature as the drama, he needs to throw in a couple things to soften the mood (hence, markimoo). He, just as much as you, has the right to make a video on whatever he wants. Everyone else, including you, are definitely entitled to respond. That said, your response was in no way proportional to his argument, and when you go after his looks and one word he used to weaken his argument, instead of ONLY focusing on the argument, basically had shown you really just wanted to throw the blame anywhere you could. Moreover, you go after those 3 as being the instigators of drama, but they're just as much of an instigator as you! Keemstar and other "drama channels" (thanks to the guys in the other thread for filling me in on that) who literally make money and get viewers off of drama somehow got no mention even though they literally have things to gain from drama. Not addressing these channels is what got you called the names you were called. Going after appearance is what got you called names. You are literally just as "bad" (which, let me restate, it's not bad at all) as PewDiePie, Markiplier, and Matthew Santoro for making ONE video addressing the drama as they made one video addressing it.

I'm glad you called Matthew Santoro out on his bullshit. He's started adding sources to his videos which I don't believe is a coincidence. So even though you made attacks against people, you did inspire positive change. That said, the backlash is because people know that when someone is shown as an absolute dickbag to the public, people don't want to have anything to do with them anymore. The thing is, in the end, you are bound to get "unfair" criticism anywhere you go. You're successful now. Millions of people watch your videos, I think it's unfair to assume that none of them should have "unfair" criticism of you. It's just how fame works. Everyone is different so it makes no sense to assume that no one is going to look for everything to make you look bad. And you're never going to be able to go after every single one of them.

People are upset because they saw things about you giving someone "unfair" criticism (Mark did not deserve that level of attacks, but I'll repeat that your response to Nicole was proportional) and now you're upset about it. They're upset because you were a total douche to someone who did nothing to you. They're upset because instead of ignoring it, you want to censor "unfair" criticism.

Grade, I love your videos. You are probably a good guy, but it's time to adjust to your level of fame now. You can't deal with everyone who dislikes your content, even unfairly. And your influence on people has people now brigading Markiplier and making fun of his looks. You brought about a mixed bag of changes, but please just realize that you're not invincible, and that it's okay to be wrong.

SgtBreastroker · 1時間前

People's opinions just suddenly went on the turn as most of your recent video you just went full on savage towards Markiplier (and the others but Mark took the brunt of it) despite the fact that it didn't really seem he deserved most of it. Like "Oh his video makes no sense but I'll call him a retard and mock his nickname he gives himself". It seemed like you went more on about insulting him throughout that section of the video as opposed to directly countering his points.

I have nothing against you, you cheeky bastard, that's kind of how I saw most of the people turning on you with that new video. Stay classy brotha, eventually you will get a group of people that don't see eye to eye, and considering you are hovering around 2 million subscribers I am surprised it has happened now rather than earlier.

CyanSheepMedia · 1時間前

Unfair criticism happens a lot on youtube, and it can drive people away from social media, prime example being TotalBiscuit.

I honestly think it is best for TotalBiscuit that he left social media. Cancer isn't fun.

my subreddit

This subreddit is about you. Not for you.

she then tries to expose me because of it?

You think you would know my name by now. XD
I didn't try to expose you. I made it public in an attempt to be transparent with everyone. As a mod I play an unbiased role. This means I can neither help nor protect you. If you do something like ask me to remove something you don't like then it is in the subreddits interest to know. It is also more of an exposure of the mods. I gave up some of my integrity by locking that thread. It was unfair for the people, but fair for you. As I am in a position of control, everything I do in regards to the subreddit SHOULD be public. Even if it makes me seem like a terrible person for making a conversation public.
Of course, not EVERYTHING I do is subreddit interest and so I won't release it. If I messaged you personally about your favourite drink then that would remain private.

Edit 1: I'm not going to distinguish my defense. Whilst I wrote this in an unbiased manner it is still a personal matter.

Technolog · 49分前

I get the message from your video. Why some popular YouTubers create useless drama by making a videos about dramas.

BUT!

You created video about this so created more drama.

I know it's been in your heart, so you put it out there. And I think you chose wrong medium. In my opinion you should post about it somewhere else, like on TwitLonger maybe. What you did was like complaining that forest is on fire and put more fire there. Exposing plagiarism is one thing. Creating a video about useless drama creates more useless drama.

indeepth0ught · 21分前

I have no idea why reddit ever liked this guy. I mean this guy is more full of himself than anyone. This reply is so incredibly bad. He literally hates everyone who disagreed with him and tried to censor this subreddit talking about him. Jesus.

blitzzardpls · 19分前

You talk about "unfair criticism" about you, but most of the stuff in your video about Mark was unfair as well. You could have just simple criticised his video about being useless, instead you directed your hate towards the person more than the actual video.

Sorry grade, that video didn't make me laugh, it enraged me

UnknownName2 · 1時間前

And I'm just sitting here like "what is going on."

Tobin321 · 24分前

I hate all 3 of the people you criticized in your video but you were just way too harsh on them. They weren't doing anything mean. Pewdiepie and Markiplier both just wanted to make the community better. They did it in the worst way possible, which was good to call out, but it was not good to relentlessly attack them like you did in your video. That was painful to watch.

Except for Santoro, pretty much every point you made in that video was also made by IHE, and he wasn't a dick about it. Your video was 15 minutes too long and you didn't add anything to the topic except make people angrier.

ThrowAway4Grade · 1時間前

Hey. I'm a lurker and this is the first time I've ever made a post in Reddit altogether. Grade, I just wanted to say that although a everyone seems very critical of you right now, the vast majority of this subreddit still loves you and your content. It honestly saddens me to see you leave, because users here put logic before fandoms, unlike most of the YouTube community. Your last video made good points yet at some moments went too far with the insults, and was a bit hypocritical, but I don't think you should be chastised forever for it as long as you are willing to work with the loyal audience of this subreddit. Bend to their will? Of course not, you are your own boss. But finding a resolution between you and your audience would be the best way to do away with this mess. Sorry for rambling...

Darknessisgrowing · 1時間前

I don't mind the incoming downvotes from the mob.

I don't blame you at all for getting a deal from Keemstar. To be able to tell your parents "you'll never have to work again" is a dream come true.

The Markiplier thing was a bit too harsh imo. Nicole did cruel things to other people, whereas Mark made a video to cash in on hype.

Everything else on the video was spot on.

Love your work man. Don't let them get your big chin down. You rule

supernblock · 1時間前

Grade, thanks for making this post. and clearing everything up for the people who disliked your latest vid. I just fucking love your content dude, and I agree with everything you said in this post.This is an off-topic question, but I'll take the opprotunity anyways; Do you have any advice for really small Youtubers who want to grow, but not advertise all over the place?

AlphaSp · 1時間前

I think part of the reason why people are reacting badly to Mark rather than Nicole is that Mark is a generally liked youtuber and person, who's done a lot of work for his "brand", donated to charity, etc, while Nicole became popular due to shitting on others, and riding the coat tails of Matt Santoro.

People like Mark because he's a nice person, and while yes, the video was essentially a babbling mess, but its no "Dear Fat People". People dislike Nicole because of shit like that, and the fact that she's an abusive bitch. It's understandable why people would have more backlash to you calling Mark a retard than you calling Nicole a cow, yeah? I think cashing in on drama hype is less bad than riding in on someone elses fame and crashing the party in the general populous' minds.

Rencudia · 1時間前

I think the main difference between someone like Nicole Arbour and Markiplier is that Nicole is just a full on cunt, with no real respect for anyone but herself (Hell, does she even respect herself?) but someone like Markiplier, while making a stupidly vague and pointless video, doesn't come across as an offensive or ill-meaning person so it may rub people the wrong way if you flat out call him 'retarded' or make fun of the way he looks. I understand what you said was a joke, but the sad fact here is that... this is the internet. Sometime's you've just got to spell out what's a joke and what isn't or else people will start to misinterupt and then you're explaining yourself in front of thousands of misinformed fans. It's a bit like when Stephen Fry got a massive backlash for criticizing 'trigger warnings'. You have to phrase everything perfectly if you're famous, or else fuck it you're a bastard.

Look, I'm a crazy big fan of you. You're literally the only person that can actually make me laugh on Youtube. All in all, I understand that you didn't mean for this video to be taken as seriously as it did. Markiplier is still a guy with LOADS of support and LOADS of subscribers. He can take something like this.

cayiika · 1時間前

Don't think I've ever posted on here but I've noticed a lot of reasonable criticism in this subreddit. Sure, insults by people who call you a money-whore are completely uncalled for and should best be ignored but I wouldn't speak of a witch hunt. Seems like most people are actually just stating their genuine concerns. I really enjoy your videos, man, and a lot of others do too, so I hope you try to differentiate between hate and well-intentioned criticism.

-InsertUsernameHere · 12分前

Grade, the problem I have with the Markiplier part is that you really didn't tell why his video was bad and why he is wrong. You just did some ad hominem attacks. I don't mind insults, but when that's the only thing you have, it seems really petty.

miracleofchildbirth · 1分前

Holy shit, this is oh so juicy!

blitzzardpls · 1分前

If you weren't friends with Keem, I'm sure he would have already stabbed you in the back and made a story regarding your fans turning against you

I'm not trying to be mean spirited

Tychovski · 1時間前

are you afraid people will view you like som leafy shit or do you think it's all exaggerated.

honestly i think it's all fine what you said, but since you have a bigger fanbase than when you first started you're a bigger target for this kinda shit. and honestly i think that's the only problem, your videos certainly haven't changed and it's something i can be grateful for. i can see how people thought you were overly aggressive but it's still GradeAUnderA and it was your opinion and people shouldn't be demanding you change it

also great job on calling matthew santoro out on his plagiarism.

Pyroenigma · 52分前

Still my favorite youtuber. Didn't give a shit about any of this drama. Love ya Grade

Varrick23 · 41分前

Keemstars probably lurking on this post somewhere.

TryAgainAt10AM · 1時間前

At this point, neither sides are willing to compromise, so let's forget this ever happened, eh?

bulletfever409 · 1時間前

Honestly, I don't get all this. I think it's just because your quick subscriber gains have granted you access to new people that have only watched certain videos that are more friendly. I remember the reason I subscribed to you, it was because you completely roasted the ever loving shit out of the topic you would be addressing in each video, it was hilarious. And if I'm honest, I felt the new video was a return to your roots. You've always used youtube to rant and ramble about the things and that's what made you great.

The Markiplier rant was great, you made your points and then continued to rant about Markiplier himself and his rabid fanbase because that's you, that's what you do. And in terms of people complaining about your interaction with the community these days. You try, you reply to things when you can to counter people's arguments against you. I still remember having a conversation with you(somewhat) on Twitter in the midst of you trying to reply to every tweet you had been sent.

You're a great guy grade, people complain that you can be a cunt, but as you said. Thats always been you, that's just how your videos are. And I for one really enjoy it when you destroy a subject the way you do like with the latest video.

ellister · 20分前

I knew the Internet was going to find some stupid reason to hate gradea, like with everything else

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