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Bike Lanes are just that. (self.Columbus)

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[–]KoontzyCubClintonville 3ポイント4ポイント  (20子コメント)

Hey there Columbus (particularly campus). As you may know 4th and summit received some pretty drastic changes in the last year in terms of removing car lanes and adding bike lanes. So here is the thing. Please USE THEM on Summit and 4th instead of holding up bus and other traffic cruising down High street.

[–]stephentszuterDowntown 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I hate to break it to you, but it's not bicycles that are causing traffic on High Street.

[–]KoontzyCubClintonville 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh certainly not independently they aren't. But with the construction and heavy bus and pedestrian traffic during commute times they unnecessarily exacerbate the problem. I see it on a daily basis.

[–]mayowarlordClintonville[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (16子コメント)

cruising down High street

And where are the bike lanes on high exactly ?

[–]MisterFlibbleGahanna 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

He/She's saying if you use Summit and 4th, you won't be holding up traffic on High.

[–]bobracha4lyfe 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Which is true of literally every transit mode

[–]mula_bocf 8ポイント9ポイント  (12子コメント)

There aren't any. Use the lanes on 4th and Summit instead of High. That's his point.

[–]mayowarlordClintonville[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (11子コメント)

Yeah and if you need to be on High why would you be on either of those roads ?

[–]mula_bocf 7ポイント8ポイント  (10子コメント)

The same reason that you would avoid driving on High. The other two are faster, less congested alternatives.

[–]mayowarlordClintonville[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (9子コメント)

Which people probably do, if it makes sense with where they are going.

[–]KoontzyCubClintonville 3ポイント4ポイント  (8子コメント)

It is like a block or two east, at most. And you're on a bike. Take Summit and jump over at the closest cross street to where you need to go.

[–]bobracha4lyfe 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

It might be easier if the cars just hop a couple blocks east to 71 or west to 315, then they can take a cross street to their destination. We spent a lot of money building these large interstate systems.

[–]boomfarmer 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Your sarcasm is not appreciated in this thread, apparently.

[–]bobracha4lyfe -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

It rarely is, but my mom thinks I'm a hoot...

[–]mula_bocf 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yep. At most, cyclists would need maybe 500 yards of riding on High given all the cross streets.

[–]boomfarmer 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The farthest is 2500 feet from High and Hudson to Hudson and Summit. The closest is about 1000 feet, from High and 5th to Summit and 5th. The cross streets, with the exception of Hudson and Lane, aren't major cross streets, and in many blocks there isn't a straight shot from High to Summit. There are no dedicated bike paths from High to Summit.

My usual campus-to-Summit route is:

  1. Woodruff, left on High at the light.
  2. High, right on East Woodruff.
  3. East Woodruff, left on Waldeck.
  4. Waldeck, right on Frambes.
  5. Frambes, left on Indianola.
  6. Indianola, right on E Lane.
  7. E Lane, turn either direction onto Summit's bike lane according to the light.

That's four extra stopsigns and some extra brick portions of the road, all because I try to avoid East Lane. The drivers there are not bike-friendly, and the road there is not wide enough for two-way traffic around bicyclists.

[–]mayowarlordClintonville[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

If I need to go TO A PLACE ON HIGH STREET I am going to AT SOME POINT in my ride, be on high street. That is all I am saying. I avoid High like the plague, but if it's where I am going, I will at some point be on it.

[–]KoontzyCubClintonville 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

That is completely fair. But as someone who commutes on the 2 down from Clintonville to downtown every day, I see plenty of bikers just cruising down High all the way from Old North Columbus to the law school. They are doing nothing but hold up traffic and put themselves in more danger than using the nice, new, protected lanes just a block or so away.

[–]mayowarlordClintonville[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, that stuff is aggravating.

[–]KoontzyCubClintonville -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

There aren't, that's the point. Use the nice, wide, protected ones they spent all that money to build for everyone just a block or so east.

[–]schadkehnfreudeClintonville 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know this doesn't quite work for for Clintonville-to-campus commuting but as someone who lives pretty close to High Street, I personally prefer using Calumet for a lot of my north-south travel - it's a quarter of the congestion of High, Summit OR 4th.

Also, I kind of hate the 4th street lane - rode it the other day and I didn't feel good at all watching for passing traffic on my right shoulder when I watch over my left shoulder on pretty much every other road. I get why it's on the left side of 4th - to avoid blind right turns and getting car-doored but on the left side that it IS on you are still at risk of blind left turns thwacking you. I appreciate that there are tradeoffs but on the whole, I'd just as soon either move the lane of the right (east) side of 4th like every other bike lane in existence or just use Summit's 2-way for north-south commuting.