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[–]Masterofnone9 100ポイント101ポイント  (15子コメント)

All we want is more transparency and less politicking in game journalism.

[–]Khorgor666 45ポイント46ポイント  (12子コメント)

Get your politics out of the games, freedom for developers AND journalists

[–]Cac_in_the_Hat 95ポイント96ポイント  (11子コメント)

I'm all for politics in games, games are art and with that comes the ability to express political, social, religious, and any other ideas through the medium.

What I am not for is developers being forced to hold back there own work because some neo-puritans (or any other group) want to inject their ideologies into every nook and cranny of western culture.

[–]Ambivalentidea 7ポイント8ポイント  (7子コメント)

I'm all for politics in games,

Some of my favorite games fall under that in varying degrees. Hidden Agenda, where you run a fictional Banana Republic and try to make the best out of it without pissing off too many junta members to get yourself removed is a timeless classic.

Tropico is a more business management centered take on the same idea and quite good too, though maybe that's just because I'm German and we've always liked the genre.

On a less directly political level, I like games from Paradox: EU, CK or Vicky. They are pretty light on actual politics I suppose, but you can still learn quite a bit about various historical events and decide yourself on what to align with.

What they all have in common: They don't go and say this brand of extreme politics is the right one and if you disagree, you are a terrible person. That's the stuff people want to stay out of games in my experience.

PS: SJWs play HoI to fap to Hitler, I read it on tumblr, so it must be true.

[–]GuillotineOnTime 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Upvote. Thanks for the recommendations, those games sound awesome and i had no idea they existed.

[–]lordthat100188 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

What's HoI?

commenting mostly to keep those game names saved somewhere so i can check it out when i get to my PC.

[–]Ambivalentidea 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hearts of Iron, the WW2 game series from Paradox.

[–]feared_rear_admiral 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Hidden Agenda

Wow talk about an obscure game. I only knew of this game from a friend and never saw it referenced elsewhere, and that was years ago. It was quite interesting though flawed. Reminded me a bit of Tropico.

[–]Ambivalentidea 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I agree it's flawed, but I still haven't really found anything that does it better. I guess King of Dragon Pass has some similarities, but it's a completely different setting and as such the decisions you are faced with are entirely different too.

[–]feared_rear_admiral 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I had high hopes for The Republic or whatever it was called, it was hyped for years as this in depth revolutionary political game but turned out pretty so so. Like you mentioned EU is one of my favourites (number 4) but even so I find it actually sabotages its own end game because even if you conquer everything eventually you'll run out of prestige and get lots of rebellion everywhere.

[–]Ambivalentidea 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Republic: The Revolution? By that wunderkind developer who was mentored by Peter Molyneux? Who promised more than he delivered just the same? Yeah, that was a disappointment.

[–]Khorgor666 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

That is something i can get behind, it is as easy as never before to get a game to the consumer, so take the chance, but do not FORCE people your believes down their throat.

[–]trainiac12 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I am all for this, but I would like to add that journalists shouldn't have the ability to judge based on things other than the game itself (bribes, personal ties, sex, etc)

[–]scornucopia 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think anyone has a problem with any particular bias or perspective injected into articles as long as it is disclosed. “Christ Centered Gamer” does reviews from a Christian perspective, but wears his bias on his sleeve and separates the synopsis/review of the game from the religious analysis. He's pretty much the poster-child for doing reviews with a clear bias/angle, but doing it right.

[–]FatSputnik -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

...and the way to achieve that is by silencing reviews and articles? I don't understand- why is it your place to police journalism, what are you doing to encourage transparency that isn't extortion, blackmail, or threats? What, seriously, is your goal?

if freedom of speech is your goal, that you want freedom from politics or whatever in gaming journalism, why is stopping anyone from doing/publishing/writing what they please, so often the route being taken to get that? Why do you "deserve" that freedom, moreso than others deserve their freedom of speech to write reviews however they personally want to?

And why are no discussions about this happening that don't devolve into name-calling, threats, and non-professional conduct and legitimacy, that you keep insisting is what you're asking for? Why has nobody, in all the times I've asked this, ever answered these questions?