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[–]Farlo1 235ポイント236ポイント  (48子コメント)

That was an amazing post, and happy birthday! Although I haven't been personally attacked over GamerGate I've fallen on the Pro side of things for the same reasons you express. For me it also started in /r/Games; there were posts about some collusion and unethical behavior between developers and journalists. That was pretty shitty, I added the participating parties (sites and individuals) to my mental boycott list and moved on.

I didn't see anything else for a while until some other news about the same stuff made its way to /r/PCGaming and /r/PCMasterRace, two sub-reddits that thankfully don't censor their discussions. As more and more evidence of lies and conspiracy came out I felt betrayed. I never held the gaming press in high regard, especially after GerstmannGate, but I suppose I was naive and didn't expect it to be so systemic within the industry. So I was slowly edging towards supporting GamerGate from the get-go. Then the "Gamers are dead" articles hit in unison and the screams of "muh-soggy-knee" started to ramp up. That, along with the GameJournoPros leaks pretty much cemented my support of GamerGate.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I didn't look for GamerGate, I'm not sexist or anything like that and I'm not trying to force women out of the industry. GamerGate found me by being open, exposing unethical behavior in one of my primary hobby's news industry, and welcoming a conversation without screaming me down whenever I disagreed with something.

[–][deleted] 133ポイント134ポイント  (24子コメント)

My route to supporting GamerGate was much the same.

Saw hints of it slipping through on /r/games and /r/gaming, saw those hints getting nuked from orbit by mods. Dug a little more, realised it was a genuine issue that certainly should be all over both those Subreddits, especially as they've tolerated similar news about people in the past who weren't part of that group.

I think what finally shifted me from merely curious and disgruntled to openly supporting GamerGate was finding out that certain /r/games or /r/gaming mods were communicating with Quinn via twitter.

In my opinion, those individuals should no longer be moderators - They've displayed a clear conflict of interest that ruins any credibility they may have once had and they've demonstrably acted on that conflict of interest to the benefit of one group at the expense of others.

[–]koeleskab 44ポイント45ポイント  (11子コメント)

In my opinion, those individuals should no longer be moderators - They've displayed a clear conflict of interest that ruins any credibility they may have once had and they've demonstrably acted on that conflict of interest to the benefit of one group at the expense of others.

THey're fucking teenagers. What do you expect? They're impressionable as fuck. Welcome to the internet.

[–][deleted] 64ポイント65ポイント  (4子コメント)

Ahaha you hope they're teenagers, but I bet most of them aren't.

[–]koeleskab 20ポイント21ポイント  (3子コメント)

Could the universe really be such a dark place?

[–][deleted] 25ポイント26ポイント  (2子コメント)

Nah.

It's various hues of neon pink and baby blue, with the occasional splatter of eldritchly luminous green or teal.

[–]GhostBeezer 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The most vile of color combinations.

[–]RadtheCad 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jesus Christ how horrifying.

[–]Pharnaces_II 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

Nah, age range of mods on /r/Games is something like 20-40 with most being late 20s/early 30s.

[–]koeleskab 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

Disgusting...

[–]Pharnaces_II 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I know, adults are awful!

[–]koeleskab 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

They're not adults, tho. being adult is about being a mature individual... They're "of age", but they wouldn't know about being adult in the slightest.

[–]HexSun 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would say that the things one of your mods did to me was very unadult, unless you count harassment and bullying an adult thing to do. I would also say it's unadult to say you were looking into what he said then cut off all contact.

[–]Coup_de_BOO 18ポイント19ポイント  (11子コメント)

saw those hints getting nuked from orbit by mods. Dug a little more

Great analogy! They dig so on that with that attack we only needed a closer look to see what was really going on.

[–][deleted] 58ポイント59ポイント  (10子コメント)

If it hadn't been for the mass censorship of the topic on Reddit I likely would never have noticed nor cared about GamerGate, honestly.

So, if any of those /r/games mods see this... Thanks! You're why I ended up pro-GG.

[–]GGtorchwood 37ポイント38ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hell, they're the reason GG exists! if they'd just let it run its course, it would have been a week-long tempest in a teapot. Pissed off people find their focus more easily.

[–]Maslo59 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some people never learn that due to Streisand effect, trying to bury something on the internet usually leads to the opposite outcome.

[–]ihazcheese 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

(Sorry for the long ass comment, I got a bit carried away, but it's still worth a read I suppose.)

I really hate that sub. There's very obviously a mod there that hates PC gaming or something with a passion. I commented a few times on a post about Rock Band 4, most of my comments were in comment chains about PC and for some reason they weren't getting downvotes or upvotes. I thought that was odd so I opened them in Incog, only to find that all my comments involving PC had been deleted. Keep in mind this was just everyday conversation about it, nothing hostile or anything. I kept commenting and commenting over and over in that same post in reply to the mod who was deleting my comments, only for those to be deleted as well; effectively censoring the ever-loving fuck out of me.

No ban, just deleting all my comments with no explanation. I knew they were being read as well because a seemingly random amount of time was in-between the deletions. I gave up after a while and later that day I commented on another post in that sub. My comment was about how "EA's Origin customer service is only good because you need to use it constantly" or something to that effect. That got deleted as well as some other comments about how "PC never gets console exclusives, while console gets PC exclusives all the time" and other things on the subject. I decided to post them again a few times only for them to get deleted. 3 or so times I posted them until later that night. I guess the mod gave up because they stopped being deleted. This was an obvious abuse of power and I'm not sure how to proceed with it, though I'm not sure if I even want to, considering all it'll lead to is a ban most likely. That's just how Reddit works I suppose.

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, I've heard mention of anything PC-specific being scrubbed before. It's stupid that it's meant to be a gaming sub and the most common platform with the greatest amount of diversity and recently more big announcements is effectively banned from the subreddit.

[–]ihazcheese -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I get that they're mods, and it's their sub, but that's not right, no matter how you put it. The only place I can go is /r/pcmasterrace because, despite most common opinions, we're not a giant circle-jerk, and neither is KiA. I can say that I've had comments deleted from PCMR and everyone will believe me, however if I say they were deleted from /r/Games, downvotes. Same goes for Ghazi and KiA.

[–]Gigglesnarf 70ポイント71ポイント  (0子コメント)

This seems like a trend. Any dissent against the established, big name game press seems to get the kind of response that pushes people toward GamerGate because the backlash is so fierce.

[–]paddyshay 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha I'm amazed that I got into this essentially on the ground floor. Was browsing halfchan /wsg/ and /x/ looking for laughs and scares and switch to /v/ for some Dark Souls gifs. Suddenly, gamergate is all up in my face and I find myself on a months long adventure lol