This is why we can't have nice things

So he can be like..

"I divorce you.." "I divorce you.." "I.. divorce.... y.. JUST KIDDING!"

"Now get back to work!"

This isn't true. All it takes is one time for the man to say you are divorced to his wife. That being said if the same man divorced the same woman three times in a row (that is getting married after the first two times without the woman getting married to another man between the divorces) they are no longer allowed to marry each other again. Source: i am a muslim.

Very true. My friend's Mother was, more or less, an outcast from their family for the majority of his childhood. His Father said it twice, and sent her to live separately from him and their children. She wasn't permitted contact with them. Eventually they reconciled. My friend, in contrast, recently divorced his wife after their first year of marriage.

Would've used Candyman.

Just for your information, if a man from Saudi said 'I divorce you' three times they can't go back together, but if it is said once, he can get her back. (He can still get her back if she maried another man then remaried him again - if said 3 times)

Technically, you only need to say it once (and wait three for over three months to pass before the divorce completes.

Before the divorce completes, both parties can get back together if they so wish (without having to get married again (as the divorce never completed).

Divorcing someone three times in this context is the limited to the number of times a married couple can say they are getting divorced before it becomes irrevocable - making it then forbidden for them to be man and wife again.

Is that like 3 times in succession? Or like 3 times ever? Are they cumulative?

If someone calls up their attorney and asks him what do I have to say to divorce again? And he shouts it out, can he accidentally divorce his own wife by mistake - e.g. if someone was walking past and heard?

I checked and that's not entirely true. He can divorce her by saying I divorce you. But he can't like do it 3 times in a row. If you divorce then marry then divorce then marry then divorce . Then you can't marry here.

Tldr; just say I divorce you

You have to say talaq three times, which means divorce.

If a man divorces his wife 3 times, they cannot marry again, she will have to marry another man before she can marry her first husband.

You know, it was exactly the opposite in Ottoman Empire. Women could divorce by saying 'I divorce you.' three times.

I think the same thing goes for declaring bankruptcy. You just have to shout "I declare bankruptcy!" to anyone close enough to hear you.

That's so incredibly stupid.

This is a reasonably good idea, ignoring the obvious gender imbalance for a second:

But what's the dumbfucks' takeaway from this?

stupid stupid stupid stupid

Same thing exists in my country India as well... :(

Can't a woman do the same thing?

Once. If you say it three times it counts as one. If you divorce and get back together twice then the 3rd divorce is final, no going back. Out of rage and ignorance they say it 3 times. This rule is quite old and it doesn't apply to the 21st century, if the muslims ever get together in freedom and update the islamic rules im pretty sure it will be very similar to what's normal nowadays. A woman also always has the right to get a divorce and doesnt need a reason for it. She can just go to the court house and get it done. Saudi arabia is anti islamic because of what they do to women. Literally anti islamic. Islam came a time where women were thought to be devils. Arabs used to burry newborn females because they wanted men warriors, islam ended that swiftly. Mohammad was without a doubt a feminist of his time. And these bedouins who call themselves house of saud are desecrating the land he lived on.

whom pops up though?

I assume the only person right for the job is keanu reeves in his natural state as shown in "devil's advocate"

If I ever become a malicious demon, I'm going to name myself "I Divorce You" so that I get invoked regularly.

Religiously....

And it can just be said in succession, there have to be cool down periods in between, invalid if said in the heat if he moment, can't be done while the wife is pregnant (I think maybe even up to a year after birth???), I mean there are a lot of stipulations.

To make it official the same paperwork has to get done as everyone else.

But if you think about it, in the west all you have to do is say it once and go to the courthouse...

Some states I think make you do something like counselling before hand, but in Islam you at least have to ponder instead of do it because your wife pissed you off that day.

It is not just in Saudi Arabia, this is how the religious way of ending marriage in Islam. This process is also applicable for all marriages in Muslim countries. But maybe your frothing at hating on anything Saudi related makes you give these dumb comments.

even their laws are draconian lol

Uh... so?

Divorce should be permitted. The fact that they have a quirky way of going about it is of no consequence.

The real question is whether women have the freedom to divorce their husbands.

A Saudi here and I want to say thank you. It's sad that the rest are mocking this while you captured its importance.

Trust me we have shit loads of things we don't like about Saudi but change is coming, the government is just being careful in instituting this change. Hopefully soon enough they'll allow women to drive and that will be the key catalyst in removing the male-dominance. On a side note, fuck the religious police.

A sad but important point. Unfortunately no culture gets everything at once and we're no different in that regard.

Ever watched the original Star Trek? First few episodes are sexist as fuck

Well put.

To say it another way: Saudi Arabia is now a slightly less backward place. Undeniably a good thing.

The ripple caused by a pebble tossed into the ocean can turn the tide. Progression requires optimism and celebration of small victories.

This is exactly what I was thinking.

I am a Saudi and that is exactly what I wanted to project. thank you for thoughtful words.

...Because, beheadings and rape might happen?

No kudos for Saudi Arabia from me. The leaders are shitty people doing shitty things to women. The entire culture is shitty, freedom-wise.

It is kept in the same location as their male guardian's

Do they need permission from a male guardian if they want to learn how to read?

They've FINALLY progressed!

This deserves more upvotes

Much right for women

A true blessing. Mashallah!

Are they not merciful!?

Welcome to Reddit, people are way into the circlejerk to get out of it. Hey don't want to correct their views even, and if you present them with the facts they go on a down voting spree. So yeah you are seeing morons concentrated here.

I think recent history in the middle east has demonstrated that there is always a worse possibility. No the Saudi government does not share Western values and yes it opresses significant parts of the population, but would ceasing to do business with them change that overnight? Is it even possible to expect that a radical shift in social structure could be pulled off without destablisation and reactionary extremisim? What steps are being made are small but vital. The current pace of reform is faster than it has ever been.

The best chance for the West to influence Saudi society is through commerce. With the oil price plummeting and the Saudi budget in disarray the government is attempting to reform the business sector to make it more modern. In history the mercantile class has been the most outward looking and reform minded, as the government declines as a source of easy jobs and money so too will the proportion of the population with a vested interest in the status quo. The time to cut ties is not now, at the start of this process... now is the time to interact positively, raise Western prestige in the Saudi population and support and critique developments as they come. There is something much worse than Saudi society moving forward slowly, and that is a Saudi society in reverse.

I don't profess to be an expert, but I've met multiple Iranians and they all seemed to be pretty cool. From what I can tell, Iran has a crazy government and somewhat normal people. Saudi Arabia has a somewhat normal government, and a much more conservative populace. Also, if you go back politically, we supported Iraq in the Iraq / Iran War in the 80s, and the British against Iran in the 50s with the BP oil fiasco that ended up with our coup that put the Shah in power. Saudi Arabia, like Iraq, was essentially our counter to Iran and especially moreso since Saddam invaded Quwait and their oil supply in the first gulf war. Power politics or whatever you want to call it. Saddam Hussein was absolutely brutal, but let's not forget that Saudi Arabia still crucifies people just for opposing the government, and many of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudis. And these are our "allies."

Are you crazy?! The bicycle seat and the bouncing along the roads will lead the mentally deficient gender into a kind of carnal hysteria!

They have the default right to their kids if they're (the kids) young. The father must provide for the kids by default. If the kids are above a certain age, they decide which parent they want to live with.

A divorced woman can choose to live alone or go back to her parents' home, which is what most do because it's easier and cheaper.

A divorced woman can remarry. There is a stigma against marrying a divorced woman, as in the rest of the world.

Go visit Saudi Arabia and engage with the millions of Saudi women who are content and wouldn't move to the West if you paid them. Then come say this crap.

Source: Live in Saudi Arabia

Bring it down a notch please.