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    [–]Gnoph -1ポイント0ポイント  (9子コメント)

    In the strictest sense of the word, yes. Any person of any race can be hateful towards another race. However, racism by nature is strongly ascociated with power. When people who actually know what they're talking about say "black people(or any minority for that matter) cant be racist" they are talking about how the current power structure in western countries is heavily dominated by the white man. The minority groups in this respect cannot be racist, it holds no power and has no real effect, while when the white man is racist, it has profound effects for the minorities and indeed society as a whole.

    There's a reason why white people dont have to deal with institutionalized racism. Its because they hold the positions of power in most western societies.

    [–]sp00ky_meme_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Oh I understand completely, but just because you are a minority or opressed it doesn't mean you should spread more hate, you are fixing nothing.

    [–]sp00ky_meme_ -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Hey mods, why did you remove my comment? Apologies if I was being hateful, but I was just trying to bring up a legitimate point, again, sorry for offending you somehow, I agree with most things on this subreddit but I think this is wrong.

    [–]electricminkBRD, BRD, BRD - BRD is le whirred 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Read the sidebar, then keep rereading it until you see the reason.

    [–]laiki -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    But expressing annoyance at the black-people-can't-be-racist idea also does not fix anything.

    [–]sp00ky_meme_ -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Haha you got me, I guess it just pissed me off a little.

    [–]Kefflin 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    so a black person killing a white person yelling ''You fucking cracker, you white piece of shit'' would not be a hate crime?

    [–]gkm64 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This is what people are being taught in gender and race studies departments.

    And because they are being taught by people in positions of authority relative to them at the time they study that stuff, they internalized it. And because while being in those programs they are not being taught pretty much anything serious (you know, hard sciences and serious philosophy, stuff that actually develops your brain), they then spend a lifetime of believing it without being able to recognize the circularity in the argument.

    But that does not make it any less circular.

    [–]runatornSir Drumpf Earl of Fedoria and defender of neckbeards ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    White fedorian cheeto eating dew drinkers can never be oppressed. And no, creepshaming and ephobolfuckinfilia-phobic doesn't count one of them.

    [–]KakeSeater 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Man, SRS needs to stop brigading itself.

    [–]MisandryMonarch 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The "majority definition" argument is itself an illustration of the "power + prejudice" argument. As a line of thinking it's suited white America to have racism reduced to something that nasty individuals inflict onto others (that MLK and Lincoln fixed already), as opposed to a pervasive cultural phenomena that benefits them even if they as individuals have no conscious prejudice. This didn't come about fully consciously, because that isn't how societies evolve most of the time, but being the empowered majority always plays a crucial role. If the black citizens of America had by some sociological miracle become the ruling class in the last 150 years, just imagine how different the narrative would be. If you've never before felt compelled to run that thought experiment, congratulations: you just demonstrated the fact of the argument once again.

    Fact is, it's impossible to divorce racism from the concept of power outside of the pages of something as narrow in focus as the dictionary. We see white supremacy of varying degrees on reddit all the time. Those few incidents of the reverse are almost always presented by white people to other white people as a form of jingoistic outrage porn: white folks using their control over the narrative to present themselves with anecdotes they'd otherwise never have experienced directly, seemingly to justify the narrative that "black people can be racist."

    To talk on terms of smaller scope than this is to fail to define anything remotely useful.

    [–]FUCKGRINGOSNationalism has not been a great blessing for this planet. 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Can non‐whites be racist against whites? No, not in the sociological sense of the word. Somebody who shit‐talks Europeans is just expressing an individual opinion, an opinion unsupported by law officials. If an African damaged or murdered a European, the law will be much harsher on the African, than if the reverse occurred.

    Can non‐whites support white supremacy? I think so, in the same fashion that some women are misogynists. Supremacists frequently like these people since they reinforce their prejudices. Consequently, they can be afforded varying degrees of security or comfort.

    At least that’s my comprehension of the situation. Feel free to correct me.

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      [–]FUCKGRINGOSNationalism has not been a great blessing for this planet. 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

      While technically it could be possible, you would have to transform the course of history.

      [–]Queermmunist 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Also black people can be racist against Asian people or Aboriginals or whatever, and the reverse. Because they, too, are discriminated against by society.

      [–]SRScreenshotwow 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Askreddit: "What sentence makes you irrationally angry?" [+195] "Black people can't be racist" [+21]


      At 2016-05-02 20:18:11 UTC, _RE_TARDIS replied to "What sentence makes you irrationally angry?" [+18 points: +18, -0]:

      "Black people cant be racist"

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      [–]PM_ME_SALTY_TEARSmy shitposting brings all the predditors to the yard 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)