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Craig Wright is trolling us all (self.btc)

kmdr が 投稿

1) He could easily give proof by signing a message, but he produces a long post where he explains the generic procedure to sign a message, without actually doing it!

2) He says he's a computer security expert, and then encloses in his page javascript anti-copying measures (try and right-click on the page, or try and do Ctrl-C on the page) Those are security measures that any kid can circumvent.

He can't be serious

3) He says: "For you to try and test this at your leisure I have included the signing script below."

And then encloses a SCREENSHOT of the script, so that you hate to re-type it

4) in his post, he gives links, such as:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexadecimal

Is he really thinking we need to be explained what hexdecimal is?

He is just saying: you are all idiots

He's trolling us all, and he's doing a good job at it.

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[–]Hitchslappy 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

It would be a beautiful thing if this whole incident served to bring the two sides of the bitcoin community together.

/wishfulthinking

[–]ESDI2 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

But in reality, seems to be tearing it apart.

[–]bitusher 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

He is using Windows with Notepad. Why the hell would Gavin take him seriously?

[–]kmdr[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

again, that is what he WANTED to show.

He could have copied the text in his blog page, he CHOSE to put a screenshot of notepad

at the same time he writes: "insert it into a saved file using an editor program such as vim. Not that I’m looking at getting into a holy war over the choice of editing programs."

see?

[–]bitusher 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

He says he used windows... Why the fuck would he use the windows OS? There is absolutely no reason He needed to prove he needed a new , untouched computer either. He is merely creating a rube goldberg maze that was able to fool Gavin but not the rest of us.

[–]arichnad 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

As sad as it makes me, Satoshi may have been a windows user. The first version of bitcoin only compiled in windows. Satoshi never once used pgp to sign anything. He wasn't a god, he was a human.

Still not sure, if wright was him or not, but there isn't any real data to verify yet.

[–]bitusher 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Actually, I concede , that it is quite possible that the real Satoshi preferred Windows. This doesn't change the fact that Craig is a likely con artist, but your point is valid.

[–]Koinzer 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

There is another possible explanation: Gavin has been contacted by a three letters agency and he can't tell it, but he can hint us by claiming something obviously absurd.

Do you remember when the home page of TrueCrypt was changed by the authors proposing to use windows as a secure encrypted platform?

That could be a similar case.

[–]CosmosKing98 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

And how would that benefit the 3 letter agency?

[–]timetraveller57 2ポイント3ポイント  (9子コメント)

I'm going to agree that it is partial trolling, but not in the way you think.

He's trolling the Core /r/bitcoin small blockists.

He's given them just enough rope to hang themselves with (make themselves look like utter retarded children). By hardly lifting a finger they are setting up the stage for their self implosion (blockstream also).

When more information is publicly presented (it will come), then they (blockstreamcore and their lapdogs) won't know where to hang their hands, and all their insults and attacks on Gavin and Satoshi (the creator of what they allegedly hold dear) will be a thing of public record.

[–]justgimmieaname 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

hmm. I'd better get some popcorn going, pronto

[–]purestvfx 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think you are too optimistic

[–]jkgy 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

He's trolling the Core /r/bitcoin small blockists.

He's given them just enough rope to hang themselves with (make themselves look like utter retarded children). By hardly lifting a finger they are setting up the stage for their self implosion (blockstream also).

I'm confused. How does falsifying more than a dozen pieces of evidence, waiting for Core/others to call him out, then eventually providing real evidence discredit Core in any way?

All it has shown so far is that Core has a firm understanding of cryptography.

As far as I can tell, the only people whose credibility is at risk are Craig himself, Gavin Andresen, Jon Matonis, and Ian Grigg.

[–]timetraveller57 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Let's assume its not falsified and that the person who has the most experience, knowledge, expertise and time in the area (Gavin) has verified that it is all legit.

Also let us assume that Jon Matonis had a series of emails from Satoshi in the very early days that discussed Bitcoin and only Satoshi and Matonis would know the exact content of these emails.

If the above two are correct then it is /r/bitcoin (Theymos) and blockstreamcore who is falsifying evidence (no surprise there).

Then let us assume that Craig is well aware of blockstreamcore's attempts at takeover, corruption and Adam's attempts to claim bitcoin as his invention and turn it into a regulated tool for banks and corporations and only those who can afford it.

Step 1) Get leading people in the space who can verify your identity.

Step 2) Explain to the general public how they will also be able to verify this identity.

Step 3) Let Blockstreamcore go into meltdown damage control mode, spreading as much FUD and misinformation as they can.

Step 4) Release the verifiable information to the general public (see step 2 to help bolster step 4).

Step 5) Watch Blockstreamcore implode and get Bitcoin back on track.

[–]jkgy 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Let's assume its not falsified and that the person who has the most experience, knowledge, expertise and time in the area (Gavin) has verified that it is all legit.

We don't know whether the evidence Gavin was provided was falsified.

All we know for a fact is that all of the evidence he has provided to the public so far has been falsified cryptographic proof, backdated blog posts, and outright lies.

Who knows, maybe he has actually provided Gavin with cryptographic proof he is Satoahi, but IMO it's much more likely Gavin was fooled as all the evidence points to Craig being a clever charlatan.

[–]timetraveller57 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

The questions you are proposing is either Gavin has been fooled (I doubt), considering personal communication that was only accessible to Gavin and Satoshi was also used.

Or Theymos and blockstreamcore crew are in damagecontrol/mode still spreading FUD and misinformation (much more likely) for the purposes of trying to keep their blockstreamcore model viable for banks, corporations and the elite.

My surmise in brackets is based on historical actions of both.

[–]jkgy 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Or Theymos and blockstreamcore crew are in damagecontrol/mode still spreading FUD and misinformation (much more likely).

Do you think the creators of Litecoin and Ethereum are also in on this conspiracy? Because they also don't believe Craig is Satoshi.

The evidence provided against Craig's claims are verifiable. You can't just say they are probably wrong/lying without even trying to verify it yourself. So far everyone who has tried verifying the evidence Craig has provided to the public has reached the conclusion that he is a fraud.

[–]timetraveller57 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Charlie Lee, yes he's pro small blockist and blockstreamcore success (bitcoin failure) = litecoin success, he knows that and I take what he says with a pinch of salt.

Vitalik uses 'probably', because he's hedging.

[–]kmdr[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

When more information is publicly presented (it will come)

Well, coming from a time traveler this is reassuring :-)

[–]slacknation 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

he's making money off the markets hehe

[–]no_face 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's not trying to convince you. He's trying to convince banks to invest in his supercomputer-blockchain-coin

[–]Michael_MK_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah, I laughed at the anti-copying measures in his site. And his code for that looks amateurish as well. However, it is possible that Satoshi Nakamoto (whoever he is) isn't good at web development either. If you look at the original bitcoin.org site, you'll see how he used 90s era HTML templating for the site.

Also, try running one of his blog posts against the Bitcoin whitepaper, with this LSM tool. I consistently got scores in the 0.8 range, which is quite high. Then again, I'm not sure if that proves anything at all.

I do believe this guy is fishy, though. There are just so many things that seem off. We will know in the following days whether this was a quite clever scam or if the guy is for real.

Edit:

Here are the scripts I assume he coded himself for the anti-copying measures:

    document.onmousedown=disableclick;
    status="Sorry, not sharing images!";
    function disableclick(event)
    {
      if(event.button==2)
       {
         alert(status);
         return false;    
       }
    }

And:

function detectspecialkeys(e){
    var evtobj=window.event? event : e
    if (evtobj.altKey || evtobj.ctrlKey || evtobj.shiftKey)
        alert("The key is not available.");
}
document.onkeypress=detectspecialkeys

This sure looks like crappy JS coding. Is this similar to the style used in the original Bitcoin code at all?

[–]swdee 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your thinking to hard here. Its most likely he paid someone to put that website together and they have just included that JS anti-copy code in there without much though.

[–]apoefjmqdsfls 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It doesn't even work, when I right-click, I get the message 'Sorry, not sharing images!', but when I click ok, I still see the menu with 'copy image location' etc. (using firefox)

[–]monkey275 -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

You can only be trolled if you care about his identity. Why should you care? There is open-source Bitcoin code and network, nobody even Nakamoto can fix the centralized mining nature.

[–]pandorasboxen 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ummm....

An easy way to do it would be to announce a hard fork alongside plans to dump a million coins in support of it. Sell 36,000 coins per day on the fork you want to fail and use the money raised to purchase bitcoin on the fork you want to succeed.

A credible threat would cause investors and holders to migrate to the successful fork. It would likely even be self-fulfilling since investors would automatically buy/sell the coins on both forks to their expected future value. And given that most miners on the existing chain would likely shut off at 10 USD per coin, there would very likely be a hash crash and a need for a hard fork on the failed chain anyway.

[–]justusranvier 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can only be trolled if you care about his identity. Why should you care?

Where were you with the "we shouldn't care about the identity of Satoshi" message when this was happening?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1329615.msg13594271#msg13594271

Szaboshi Backamoto used a mix of American and British English. Szabo is American, Back is British.

https://twitter.com/adam3us

inventor of hashcash (bitcoin is hashcash extended with inflation control)

[–]Spartan3123 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is funny lol...

[–]earthmoonsun -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Craig Wright is trolling us all

I don't think so. Most people don't believe this weirdo.