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Gentrifaction of Ithaca (thetab.com)

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[–]SwineFluPandemic -1ポイント0ポイント  (15子コメント)

This article is a mess. It's just a hodgepodge of "socially conscious" speculation and race baiting. What does race have to do with the trend of development the majority of the article centers on? You could have left it at "low income families". There's no allegation of developers or local government having any racial motivations but why not throw some graphics and nonsense about the IC protests to tint the whole thing.

with a little help from Merrill Lynch (an enormous financial institution)

Banks are bad, the obvious implication here. No need to defend this one, it's just telling.

a dizzying amount of land development projects either in progress or under review that, after heavy investigation, seem to be inattentive (to say the least) to the problem of gentrification.

economic rebounds from these sprawling construction projects will inevitably have fiscal repercussions that will hit impoverished Ithacans the hardest.

Who says it's a problem? Why should private developers be responsible for your pet causes? As a homeowner in Ithaca I'm happy to see more investment in the area. If nobody is building low income housing then maybe it's not a good investment. If you think it's such a good investment you should do it. Certain income levels get priced out of areas as they progress all the time. Spending taxpayer money subsidizing a move against this trend is something that only people who have no significant tax burden in the area would suggest. Or bleeding heart liberal students. And no surprise, you're a student.

[–]PotentPollen[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (14子コメント)

The article says that private developers have every right to develop land where ever they want, and they don't have to care about their impact. You assume a lot of things about me which is quite funny considering you don't know me, but I'm glad you read the article and I appreciate the criticism (although perhaps you could try and be a bit more civil for the sake of rational discourse). Banks are not bad, they are the core of any economic system. Banks that use their money to influence politics and the societies they exist within have the potential to be bad. Merrill Lynch is unequivocally a large financial institution... That's just a fact, and I never said a bank was bad. Just like a hammer or a gun isn't intrinsically bad.

The reason race plays a role in the article is because of the concentration of minorities and the fact that this concentration also tends to be in regions of lower income families. These construction projects surround those regions. The statement that "if nobody is building low income housing then maybe it is not a good investment" is encoded with so much apathy I cannot even begin to understand where you are coming from.

[–]SwineFluPandemic 1ポイント2ポイント  (13子コメント)

EDIT: I responded to this before you edited your comment changing the entire thing, I'm not reading your crap again.

So low income housing is a "pet cause"?

Yes. The idea that local government (and therefore taxpayers) should subsidize below market-rate housing projects is an opinion and part of a political ideology, not some obvious and intrinsic fact of the universe.

I don't know if you're playing dumb about my merril lynch comment or if you're just a natural but I think it was obvious I was teasing you for also throwing that in and implying that merril investing in Ithaca is implicitly ethically dubious because of their size or something.

[–]PotentPollen[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (12子コメント)

The idea that private land developers should be allowed to spend enormous quantities of money on changing the landscape of a community is also not an intrinsic part of the universe.

[–]SwineFluPandemic 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

So what, because of how you feel about "gentrification" people shouldn't be allowed to privately acquire and develop land with their own "enormous quantities" of money? I don't get what you're even saying here. Banks and companies investing in Ithaca is bad because they could instead be building housing projects for poor black Ithacans that are subsidized by taxpayers? Is that the gist of it?

I do not understand you at all.

[–]PotentPollen[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (10子コメント)

I said in the article that private developers can do whatever they want. I just think that if we can afford to allot so much money to redevelopment or renovation, then perhaps some of that money could also be used to prevent people from being pushed out of their homes (literally a thousandth of 1 percent of some of these projects is more than the federal grants given for LMI housing).

edit: for example, the $300,000 dollars spent on carpets in the library is already ~twice the amount of money that was received from Federal grants (for LMI housing).

[–]SwineFluPandemic 2ポイント3ポイント  (9子コメント)

I said in the article that private developers can do whatever they want.

That doesn't even agree with your earlier posting of

The idea that private land developers should be allowed to spend enormous quantities of money on changing the landscape of a community

You can't even keep your own point of view straight across two posts. Why should private developers developing somehow necessitate low income housing? Why should they be required to pay for it?

I just think that if we can afford to allot so much money to redevelopment or renovation

Who's we? I thought we were talking about private money here. Now suddenly you're talking about public money appropriated for the repair of a library.

If you don't think enough public money is being appropriated for low income housing then complain to elected officials and stop whinging about private development and acting like investment in Ithaca is some sort of negative.

[–]PotentPollen[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (8子コメント)

Yeah, because that is my personal opinion and I didn't want to include that in the article because I was trying to be objective.

I am NOT saying that private developers should do ANYTHING. I'm saying it's pretty sad that Svante has to ask the federal government for less than 200k when the Tompkins county can afford to spend 300k for carpets in the library.

A large part of the article was that elected officials don't even have the power to help these communities , while the people who do choose not to and in the process will displace them.

[–]SwineFluPandemic 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

I have no idea how you can consider this article objective. Good thing you're in physics.

[–]PotentPollen[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

Emphasis on the word trying, because of course I have opinions that seep into the writing. Yup and I'll help continue inventing the technology that allows for people of your intellect to continue surviving. But I'll also keep writing to piss off people like you until the day I die.