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[–]propshaftRadical Redneck [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Was he crying when he said it ?

[–]trolliamnotRights are given by God, not man [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Nah, probably just drunk

[–]travis-42Goldwater Conservative [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

As far as Donald Trump goes, Boehner remarked that he had golfed with Trump for years and that the two are “texting buddies.”

This explains a lot about his reign as speaker.

[–]BuSpocky [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Has there ever been a grosser sentence written in the history of mankind?

No.

[–]imbalanced [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

THIS JUST IN: Most Hated Politician in Modern Era Hates People Who Don't Agree With Him. More at 10.

[–]universal_strawConstitutional Conservative [スコア非表示]  (15子コメント)

Coming from that man I count that an endorsement.

[–]Strive_for_Altruism [スコア非表示]  (14子コメント)

What do people have against Boehner? Not trying to be facetious, honestly wondering. I thought he did a good job of attempting to find common ground and bridge the gaps to get things done when he was speaker. Was he perfect? Not even close, but he still did the best he could given the difficult situation he faced.

[–]universal_strawConstitutional Conservative [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

He caved to literally everything, and supported a lot of the stuff, Obama and the Democrats sent his way. The man did nothing as Speaker.

[–]Strive_for_Altruism [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

I personally believe some concessions are necessary tradeoffs in order to get your own legislation passed through. I'd rather have 2 democrat bills and 4 republican ones passed than none of either.

[–]CarolinaPunk#NEVERTRUMP [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

But we didn't get anything for the concessions. Even the sequester was Obama's idea

[–]DranoshSoCon, FinCon, antistatist, anti"equality" [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

rather have 2 democrat bills and 4 republican ones passed than none of either.

Well in reality it was we gave democrats everything expecting bread crumbs and they gave us the finger and then blamed us for not giving them even more

[–]universal_strawConstitutional Conservative [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Well we disagree on that. I'd rather have none of either.

[–]Strive_for_Altruism [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

That's fair, agree to disagree.

[–]universal_strawConstitutional Conservative [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Look at us being civil. That's a rare thing around here these days. Agree to disagree it is. Hope you have a good day.

[–]Strive_for_Altruism [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Same to you friend.

[–]IDontBelieveInIsms [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think I just witnessed the birth of a star. A civil disagreement on r/conservative? I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.

[–]BuSpocky [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What, exactly, did Boehner get past that you really liked?

[–]Rhawk187 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Apparently you never saw his performance in the debate against Cap and Trade.

[–]dethswatch [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

hey- I like pointless, useless shit for show and capitulation as much as the next--... oh wait, I don't like either of those and that's all we seemed to get.

[–]Tenorek [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Boom, nailed it. He tried to find common ground. That's enough right there. It gets tiring seeing Republicans always, always caving, and "crossing the aisle" to make sure left wing ideas are accomplished.

[–]gprime#NeverTrump [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I thought he did a good job of attempting to find common ground and bridge the gaps to get things done when he was speaker.

If you start with the premise that "getting something done" is all that matters, then you'd have every reason to like Boehner. He had zero fidelity to principle, zero strategic competence to properly leverage the GOP position against the Obama administration, and zero will do anything to advance the Republican agenda. For all the good he did us, he might as well have been a Democrat.

[–]CarolinaPunk#NEVERTRUMP [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I’ll vote for Trump against Hillary but I won’t vote for Cruz, Boehner added, another small clue from within “the system” about who can and can’t be trusted with its welfare. In fact, being a golf buddy of John Boehner’s is practically the textbook definition of being part of “the system” — or was, until about 10 months ago — but oh well

[–]YosoffNatural Rights Conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Orange people stick together.

[–]Lepew1 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Here, Lucifer is anyone who exposes crony capitalism or refuses to participate in it. Clearly it is hard finding someone as angelic as Boehner, since there is no 2000+ page continuing resolution of Obama's priorities chock full of pork that Boehner never said no to. It takes a certain kind of discipline to say yes to every lobbyist. Boehner has that quality.

[–]MicahRaptor [スコア非表示]  (14子コメント)

Since when did /r/conservative start agreeing with Boehner?

This isn't the_donald.

[–]narutouzLibertarian Conservative [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

After Trump won the latest super Tuesday many Trump supporters have come back to r/conservative.

[–]rightoftexas [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Deport the illegals. This place is for conservatives to discuss conservative issues.

[–]KennesawMtnLandisGuest User [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I was unbanned and I have enjoyed myself. The conversation has been pretty stimulating.

[–]conredditive [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

It is becoming so.

[–]ToNewDepths [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

And it turned very fast.

[–]DanburyBaptistInalienable Rights of Conscience [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well, we didn't turn. It's just that Trumpsters have been trying to set up shop here for a while.

[–]SeriouslySlick [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah it is... I got down-voted for saying Trump hasn't locked up the nomination and that his pluralities and negatives make it a tough sell for the general. All generally recognized points as being true.

Not saying Trump can't overcome that... but it's still something he has to overcome.

[–]BcTsarIvan [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Um, /r/Conservative isn't? Did you read there are only two comments that are agreeing with Boehner the rest are disagreeing.

[–]CarolinaPunk#NEVERTRUMP [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Thank you for the Endorsement!

[–]S0ckHeaven [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Coming from the guy who helped make everything easier on obama, a glowing endorsement

[–]pcarenza [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Endorsements from Boehner... every elite's wet dream. ;)

[–]Saito1337 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Definitely a positive endorsement for Cruz.

[–]NosuchRedditor [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Says the guy who got fired by his constituents for lying to them about fighting the Obama agenda.

[–]DanburyBaptistInalienable Rights of Conscience [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Haha, that's great. But Cruz is toootally the "establishment" guys, I'm super cereal.

[–]matata_hakuna [スコア非表示]  (30子コメント)

"I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life."

And y'all think Cruz will be able to do anything when the house and senate hate him.

[–]Charsar [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Honestly nothing getting done sounds like a good deal to me.

[–]BarrettBuckeyeconstitutional conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ah, the ol' Calvin Coolidge approach.

[–]KennesawMtnLandisGuest User [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

How has that worked for the last six years?

[–]CarolinaPunk#NEVERTRUMP [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So trump will work with the open borders crowd to screw his voters over?

That sounds about right

[–]xwhy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

do you think that they can get together to override his vetoes?

[–]DanburyBaptistInalienable Rights of Conscience [スコア非表示]  (17子コメント)

[–]Baine53 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Take a picture before it gets deleted.

Would it be against the rules of the sub to post a picture of this conversation?

[–]CarolinaPunk#NEVERTRUMP[M] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

As a submission? Yes. As a comment no .

[–]Golden_oldies56 [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

Lol even Jeff sessions hates the guy and endorsed trump, is sessions a liberal too?

[–]BarrettBuckeyeconstitutional conservative [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

No, but Sessions is a single issue voter, and he thought Trump would be the toughest on immigration.

[–]CarolinaPunk#NEVERTRUMP [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

And the only one who cant get elected

[–]BarrettBuckeyeconstitutional conservative [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Did you mean to say that Sessions thought that Trump was the only one that can get elected?

[–]CarolinaPunk#NEVERTRUMP [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Sessions chose him cause for some reason he is ignorant enought to think Trump can get elected. He is from Alabama they aint that bright.

[–]BarrettBuckeyeconstitutional conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Gotcha. you wrote cant. That's why I was confused.

[–]Laneofhighhopes [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Wow, what an extremely close minded view for someone that is a mod on this subreddit.

Please expand on what other parts of the country you think are full of idiots.

[–]Braxo [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

While it would be hard for Cruz to get along with Congress as President, my concern would be if Cruz would sign bills that cross his desk if they include small amendments that go against his conservative principals even if the bill itself is something he wants enacted.

Trump is somebody who I could see signing those bills into law help bring about conservative values while he is President.

Cruz I would see as somebody who would not - so effectively nothing would get done for conservatives if Cruz was president and he would have to employ Obama style executive decisions - something that he attests.

[–]DanburyBaptistInalienable Rights of Conscience [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Cruz I would see as somebody who would not

It's just paranoid delusion to think that Cruz wouldn't get anything done.

[–]parrotpeople [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

"Deals" involve concessions. Cruz has touted his conservative principles. If you take him at his word, he wouldn't sign a bill banning abortion if it included a rider that funded Planned Parenthood itself due to that same rider. Trump supporters, myself included, would say sign the bill and blast the politicians who added the rider, or hell fully support it since the prime directive of anti-life Planned Parenthood movement would have been undercut. Politics are a messy thing, we find the person who we feel most aligns with our values and put our trust in them, and Trump supporters feel that conservatives have given enough ground. There will never be a better time to make a stand than this moment

[–]MannPayorthIngWynn [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

See, and I'm more concerned with the incredibly liberal bills that Trump would sign.

[–]gh3j783 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

I'm curious if you think it's a good or bad thing that no one likes Cruz?

[–]DanburyBaptistInalienable Rights of Conscience [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

"No one." Please get back to me when you're ready to be serious.

[–]BarrettBuckeyeconstitutional conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think it's a good thing. He's hated in the Senate because he stood up to the Washington elite and their unfettered spending and growth of the government.

[–]robotoverlordzReagan Conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If the American people don't have any/many buddies in congress, why should anyone who purports represents us?

[–]crazboy84 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

They hate em, cause they aint em!

[–]PotatoPink[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

They hate us cause they anus?

[–]crazboy84 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I wanted to... but ive been banned on too many subs and dont want to lose this one haha

[–]former_liberal [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I can't support Trump and will probably vote for Cruz over him, but it is a bad sign that he is so passionately hated by everyone around him. There must be something more to it than simple disagreements.

[–]GaroldWilsonSnailJrConstitutional Conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

everyone around him

I'm pretty sure he has more senate and house supporters than Trump

[–]jgardnerReagan Conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Cruz threatens the very foundation of business-as-usual. He would, if he could, put all the democrats and liberal RINOs out of work. He would end crony capitalism, too.

[–]jindraisland [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

No matter what you think about Cruz, this is super childish. Makes sense though, since he supports Trump.

[–]conredditive [スコア非表示]  (18子コメント)

The cognitive dissonance of Trump supporters is amazing...

Trump Supporter: "We want someone who is against the establishment; who fights it with every fiber of his being! We want someone the establishment hates!"

Establishment hates Cruz because he doesn't compromise his conservative principles and they know he'll actually try to do what he says he'd like to do.

Trump Supporter: "Look at Cruz, he'll never get anything done because the establishment hates him!"

Even though Cruz's time at the FTC proved very fruitful because he was able to work with others and accomplish goals without making stupid deals. What No One Seems to Know About Ted Cruz's Past:

Moreover, and perhaps surprising to some, Cruz sought and secured a broad, bipartisan consensus for his agenda. Almost all of Cruz’s initiatives received unanimous support among both Republicans and Democrats.

[–]TedyCruzHEREEE'S TEDYY [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You gonna have to write this on a meme, they particularly like the 2 button option.

ie: Cruz is the Establishment! Vs No one in the establishment likes Cruz!

[–]JukeCity101 [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

I don't know of a single person who thinks Cruz is actually anti-establishment. Being hated doesn't automatically make you anti-establishment. Only people I know that are voting for him, are voting for him because he's the church guy.

[–]Captain_Yid [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's not a matter of "thinks." He won his senate seat by beating the establishment candidate (David Dewhurst). I know, because I voted for him and his opponent was a GOP shill and Cruz was clearly the more intelligent candidate with the ability to clearly articulate conservative principles.

He is factually a non-establishment senator. He doesn't just call himself that.

[–]conredditive [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Then you hang around with stupid or uninformed people. What exactly makes Cruz "establishment" since he's been the one fighting them in the senate unlike Trump who's only recently discovered that we have representative democracy?

[–]am0nam00se [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I am an outspoken Atheist and I will be voting for Ted Cruz. Your narrative that: "Only people that are voting for him, are voting for him because he's the church guy" is a shit talking point and unequivocally false.

[–]JukeCity101 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Only people I know* Not sure why you would take the time to specifically remove that part from the quote, when you took care to copy the quote in the first place. You guys are trying too hard. There's plenty of ways to argue against what I actually said, like pointing out that anecdotal data is near worthless and polls tell the real story (your welcome), doing that just makes you look silly.

[–]am0nam00se [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You must be simple. By providing my anecdotal experience, I just did demonstrate how your anecdotal data is worthless. I didn't bother quoting you exactly because you didn't bother to be intellectually honest when you took a mental shit in this comment section. And finally, if I wanted to argue with Trumpians I would point out the hypocrisy and liberal progressivism that permeates his language and policy positions. I would also illustrate how many Trump supporters are completely ignorant of the issues and have fallen for the cult of personality.

[–]PM_ME_UR_TRUMP_MEMES [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

It's not that difficult to understand tbh. They don't like Cruz because he's a supposed outsider. They hate him because of his personality.

Cruz has a loud bark, but he sits down and does what he's told like a good boy when his corporate donors and special interests start tugging at his leash.

Still still think Cruz is anti-establishment? Well, let's see here...

  1. He has never for a single day worked professionally outside of Government or Politics

  2. He ardently backed George Bush, and served as chief counsel to John Boehner.

  3. In 2004, he lambasted fiscal conservatives for opposing the Sarbanes-Oxley Act along with No Child Left Behind and the unconstitutional, undeclared wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

  4. Furthermore, in 2009, he sent a memo to the Obama Administration praising their efforts in passing the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act, otherwise known as the $787 BILLION taxpayer funded "stimulus package" that helped launch the Tea Party to notoriety.

  5. He took out personal loans for his Senate campaign from Goldman Sachs in 2012 that he conveniently forgot to disclose!

  6. When elected, he voted to increase military spending without paying for it, voting for Rubio's bill to increase military spending by $166 billion without any spending cuts.

  7. He backed agricultural subsidies, voting for flood and agricultural insurance, while simultaneously acting puritanical on free markets by opposing ethanol mandates in Iowa.

  8. He voted for the budget deal that would have increased the debt by $400 Billion in FY 2016.

  9. He flip-flopped on the TPP, only opposing it when politically expedient.

  10. He voted to REAUTHORIZE THE PATRIOT ACT up to FY 2017, as part of the Freedom Act, which doesn't decrease NSA powers at all.

  11. He voted for CISA, while admitting to not having read or known anything about it.

  12. He has pretended to back the gold standard and sound monetary policy by name dropping Mises and Hayek, but infamously missed the Audit the Fed vote, while proclaiming on the campaign trail that Ben Bernanke didn't LOWER INTEREST RATES QUICK ENOUGH!

  13. With regards to foreign policy, he doesn't have a coherent policy at all. As late as April 2015, he advocated for arming rebels and continuing tactical airstrikes, which is no different than the current Obama policy... But all of a sudden, to appeal to voters, he now wants to make the sand glow in the dark and carpet bomb Iraq?

[–]am0nam00se [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

This list you have concocted is heavily editorialized. I could construct a very similar critical list of Trump to hollowly support my bias as well...

[–]conredditive [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah, there isn't much "fact" there. I don't have time to sift through it right now. I'll have to come back later and try to comment. Although, some of it just seems made up.

[–]PM_ME_UR_TRUMP_MEMES [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

similar critical list of Trump

"But...But...But what about Trump??"

How about instead of resorting to WhatAboutIsms every time criticism comes up, you actually defend the criticism? Maybe because anyone can simply Google Ted's PATRIOT Act record

Or the flip flop on Obama's TPP Fast Track Authority

Or his votes on spending.

Or his letter to Obama praising him.

Or his history with Bush and Boehner.

Or his foreign policy a couple months before announcing.

[–]bloodfoxtrue [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Perhaps. But it still makes more far more sense than the comment made by /u/conredditive. I suppose he's trying to make a point about double standards or bias or something. Haha, some real weirdoes in /r/conservative. It's a simple article. Cruz isn't well-liked by folks; one of whom is Boehner. Some folks see that as a plus, some see it as a negative. Whatever you prefer!

[–]BarrettBuckeyeconstitutional conservative [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

They don't like Cruz because he's a supposed outsider. They hate him because of his personality.

Cruz has a loud bark, but he sits down and does what he's told like a good boy when his corporate donors and special interests start tugging at his leash.

There's just too much stupid to untangle here. It's really astounding.

All of those facts you posted yet you left out how Donald Trump has backed liberal Democrat politicians for almost the entirety of his career. He was opposed to Reagan, and he only started in the Republican Party because he saw it as his best opportunity to run for president. He's a big government, loudmouth liberal who has been a Democrat his whole life. What makes you think he's going to be a conservative all of the sudden?

[–]PM_ME_UR_TRUMP_MEMES [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

yet you left out how Donald Trump has...

lol There it is.... Every time... Every. Single. Time.

My comment had absolutely nothing to do with Trump and was a response as to whether Cruz was actually anti-establishment... In a thread about Ted Cruz

But since you have no rebuttal to my comment so you just kick and scream and say "But....But....But what about Trump?!?!?!"

Sorry, but WhatAboutisms isn't a good argument.

All of those facts you posted

Here's the difference between you and I. I've posted facts, you just keep posting feels.

Trump has backed Democrats and Republicans. He gave Clinton money, he fundraised for Mittens in 2012, and he even gave ol' Teddy Cruz some money. Why should I post something Trump has never tried to hide?

In the business world, you don't see blue or red. You see green. Maybe there's a good damn reason why one of Ted Cruz's super pacs, owned By Eric Lycan, has caught heat for being so shady that big donors hide behind fake LLCs.

He was opposed to Reagan

Reagan was also over 35 years ago. If you're going to try and attack a man for beliefs he held 35 years ago, just stop.

If someone voted Obama, does that mean they can't change their mind? Are they legally bound to liberals and can never change their views?

He's a big government, loudmouth liberal who has been a Democrat his whole life.

That's basically the first line of your "mah feels" post so it's not even worth responding.

[–]BarrettBuckeyeconstitutional conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

lol There it is.... Every time... Every. Single. Time.

This happens every time because your goddam username is PM_ME_UR_TRUMP_MEMES. I don't know what else you really expect. Everything you say will be taken as the interpretation of a Trump supporter. If your username was IM_A_DIPSHIT, people wouldn't automatically assume that everything you say is about how great your fascist idol is.

If you actually think Ted Cruz is part of the establishment, you have deluded yourself beyond comprehension. Ted Cruz is a small government constitutionalist who is anything but part of the Washington Cartel who have sunk us into enormous debt through unfettered spending and growth of government. His voting record as well as his hatred from his colleagues from appearing to be an obstructionist of their runaway spending prove my point.

Here's the difference between you and I. I've posted facts, you just keep posting feels

Dafuq? I didn't post feels. I pointed out how Donald Trump has been a leftist for his entire life. That's a fact. I didn't just make it up that he endorsed Hillary Clinton's 2008 campaign. I didn't make it up that he endorsed Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer and all of the other fucking liberal shitbags we have. That's all true. You call it feels because you and every other Trumpster love to distort facts so that you can idolize your God-King.

If someone voted Obama, does that mean they can't change their mind? Are they legally bound to liberals and can never change their views?

You literally just made a whole editorialized list of what Cruz has done in the past. Now that someone brings up Trump's past, it's out of line? Preposterous. Your argument makes no sense. "Oh! He changed his mind!" Says who? I would be willing to bet that the leftist, big government tendencies he has held for the last 40 years hold more credence than the last year of him suddenly pretending to be a Republican.

That's basically the first line of your "mah feels" post so it's not even worth responding.

"Somebody posted a fact that I disagree with. It must be because of 'muh feels'" - /u/PM_ME_UR_TRUMP_MEMES

[–]jumbo627 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

There is a big difference between building a consensus in a federal bureaucracy and building a consensus in Congress. His coworkers just don't like him since he is an arrogant jerk

[–]conredditive [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

They perceive him to be a jerk because he's anti- establishment. Try to work that out.

[–]jumbo627 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That isn't why. He simply doesn't have people skills. Reagan was anti establishment and got along with everyone.

You can pursue conservative principles without alienating people. If you do that, nothing will ever pass.

[–]fuhko101 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Lucifer in the flesh

And so It begins as was fortold.

[–]Nukatha [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Lucifer: "Shining one", "Light Bringer", "Bringer of Dawn", eh, sounds like an endorsement to me.

[–]kairizell92 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It could be if most people didn't see lucifer as a bad thing and the literal devil

[–]SeriouslySlick [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah... he's not an establishment candidate. Trump fits that bill far better.

[–]JGand72 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That's a little hyperbolic, no? Lucifer is evil, but not in the same league as Cruz.

[–]riftrender [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah, cuz he'll bring the light.

[–]myhatisgreyAlmost conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

wow...damn...i mean i know Cruz is unliked but damn that was harsh. i hate that he said it now though, when it may benefit Trump. But Cruz really does have a huge personality problem for anyone that is not a fan of his. I mean we're getting down to the last 10 or so races - and Cruz only has six endorsements from his senate peers. And half of those endorsed Rubio first, and Graham endorsed Buh first. So out of all his senate colleagues Cruz got two endorsements himself. I know people complain about establishment, but I have to believe that out 53 republican senators (not counting Cruz himself) there are more than 2 of them that aren't 'establishment shills'. I mean Cruz is as unlike as Trump is dangerous. But at the end of the day, being unliked is a heck of a lot better than being dangerous, so I'm hoping he manages to pull this off.