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[–]WT32Blind 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Decent analysis, cheers for putting in the time.

[–]GuamanianCannavaro20 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

On a fundamental level, the toothlessness in attack is due to the lack of off-the-ball movement. The players seem more focused on keeping the shape relative to the rest of their teammates rather than occupying space left by the opposition. There isn't much movement in our midfield and forwards to get into open pockets of space and it's very frustrating watching the team stand in their spot while they wait for the ball. Top level defenders aren't going to sit back and give you all the time in the world. The players have to create that space for themselves and force the opposing defense to shift on our own terms and not theirs.

[–]forgiveneverforget 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I have to agree with the point about maintaining shape rigidly with respect to the action (defending, attacking) and your teammates. This approach stifles creativity, innovation and individual ability. Everything seems like it is strictly following a system which, no where near unbeatable, is easy to counter or play against. Our play in attack is no where near instinctive instead the rigidity results in lack of chance creation and conversions.

To go back to what Thierry Henry said about the Barcelona system (I know this is super elementary) under Guardiola. To maintain defensive shape and press to win the ball back was based on a system but in the final third the players were given complete creative freedom. LvG's system/philosophy is not allowing the creative freedom, exploitation in the final third. Stats prove that defensively we are doing quite well due the discipline instilled in the team by the philosophy but in attacking we suffocate due to, once again, the philosophy.

[–]thebalancedsoul[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Henry insisted that it was about creative freedom however Pep's main attacking tenant is overloading one side of the field to draw the defense out of position and then to make good fast switches of play to allow for creative players to attack on a 1v1 basis. I think if you see our successful buildups from the right side there are opportunities to put the ball at the feet of Martial or Depay with a good shot at a 1v1 on the left but the players are playing so risk adverse that they don't try to move the ball quick enough to exploit that opening.

[–]GuamanianCannavaro20 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. Overloading one side gives a lot of opportunities for creative chaos and force defenders to shift around a lot and eventually lose their shape. What makes Barcelona so deadly is that they have so many skillful players to take advantage of gaps in the defense and create clear chances.

[–]JeffMurdock_ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

lack of off-the-ball movement

Makes me wonder how players like Kagawa and Hernandez, who were amazing at picking and making intelligent off-the-ball runs respectively, would have done had the stars aligned for them at United.

I feel only Herrera and Mata in the current squad display any sort of off-the-ball intelligence.

[–]jamcheeseScholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Another underrated point about Valencia- he seems to have lost some muscle since before his injury, which I think was really affecting his pace. Probably bulked up as he was expecting to receive the majority of his minutes in defense but that just weighed him down and his freedom of movement. That said, he seriously is a beast.

[–]availableusername10Beckham 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Great analysis. The important thing I think to take notice of here I think is that it's quite consistent with the LvG philosophy's emphasis on players utilizing the spaces when moving forward. Great observation on what it can look like when it works (to an extent, obviously it wasn't a terrific performance by any means).