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Wondering Wednesday, 20 April 2016, Have you corrected your friend's badhistory? How did it go? (self.badhistory)

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I mean, we all have been there. Your friend says a common myth or legend, and you and wondering, do I say something? How do I say it? Should I just let it go? Why the hell do I even know this anyway? I spend way to much time on Reddit! What am I doing with my life? I could have been President! 420blazeit

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[–]International_KBAt least three milli-Cromwells worth of oppression 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

A few weeks ago I had that awkward moment when you realise that the colourful old man you've been happily chatting to is actually a Nazi apologist. Apparently Hitler wasn't to blame for starting the war, the SS was the paragon of efficiency and the Nordic races are simply superior.

Not really much you can say to that.

[–]nihil_novi_sub_soleW. T. Sherman burned the Library of Alexandria 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Where is this? The only old people I know are American, and for whatever other insanity they might share, I've never known one to be sympathetic to any of the Axis powers, so I always picture a young person when I think of Nazi apologia.

[–]blaze88 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

In rural areas of the US with strong German heritage this happens. Where I lived in PA there was a barn 2 towns over that has a permanent wooden swastika. It had been there for years and years and it was just tolerated. Wtf.

[–]International_KBAt least three milli-Cromwells worth of oppression 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ireland. Hence I was really surprised to be lumped in with the Nordics. We have none of their (Aryan) good looks.

[–]BrotherToaster 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nothing says efficiency like gunning down civilians and employing children for frontline duties.

[–]Logically_Insane 5ポイント6ポイント  (12子コメント)

Had a buddy who was absolutely convinced the Soviet Union pulled out of WWII before 1945. Refused to even google it, or hear out anything.

Also had a friend who claimed being a southern slave in 1860 was better than being a northern freed man in 1866. That really doesn't seem right, but I didn't know enough to try and refute it.

[–]CaptainPyjamaSharkAdmiral Kolchak the Night Stalker 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

muh wage slavery

[–]Minn-ee-sottaa 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

The civil war was really about ownership of the means of production.

[–]werty894 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The MEMES of production comrade! That's how the revolution was won. With internet shitposting!

[–]lestrigone 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

convinced the Soviet Union pulled out of WWII before 1945

Was he maybe mixed up with WWI? That sounds still grievously wrong, but vaguely understandable. But I'd guess he doesn't know much about history.

[–]Logically_Insane 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

That's what I thought, but he knew they pulled out of WWI, and he even knew some of the reasoning behind it. Maybe he just thought they liked it the first time so they did it again.

[–]lestrigone 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's... weird.

I mean, I guess if you want to make some sort of joke, you could do something about the legendary and infamous Soviet bureaucracy and the Red Army screwing so hard the withdrawal that they went in the other direction and conquered Berlin, but still.

[–]Logically_Insane 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Haha I like the sound of that. They took the long way back to Moscow, through Berlin.

[–]lestrigone 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

"I knew I should have taken the left turn at Albuquerue" - Gyorgy Zukov

[–]deltree711 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Since when is Pismo Beach Ріѕмо БэасЂ in Germany?"

[–]DukeofWellington123 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Had a buddy who was absolutely convinced the Soviet Union pulled out of WWII before 1945.

Eh? Did you give him a gold medal in mental gymnastics?

[–]xaxers 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Had a buddy who was absolutely convinced the Soviet Union pulled out of WWII before 1945.

What, were they trying to keep Germany from getting pregnant or something?

Also had a friend who claimed being a southern slave in 1860 was better than being a northern freed man in 1866. That really doesn't seem right, but I didn't know enough to try and refute it.

A black slave could be beaten to shit for no goddamn reason at all, have his wife and children sold away from him, and then worked like a dog.

Yeah, some guy struggling to pay rent had it worse, because the black guy lived rent free.

[–]ksnyder86 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe he thought that they stayed out the Pacific front so technically didn't help finish the war (granted they didn't jump in until he final days).

[–]Gog3451 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Many of my friends now know that Central Asia exists (it's a pet peeve of mine.) I was unfortunately not able to correct an person I knew's umm... idea about FDR being a communist. That was awkward.

[–]lestrigone 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here and there, but it never really impacts the discussion.

[–]dandan_noodles1453 WAS AN INSIDE JOB OTTOMAN CANNON CAN'T BREAK ROMAN WALLS 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Had a friend who was convinced there was no record of Christopher Columbus existing before 1492, or there's no information on his origin or something like that. Atlantic exploration isn't my strong suit, so I just had to say that didn't quite sound right.

[–]BreaksFullUnrepentant Carlinboo 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Had a prolonged argument with a friends dad over the cause of the Civil War. He says they seceded because of slavery, but the war was over the secession itself, which is technically true in the most technical of ways, but he also said that it was the Union being the aggressor because secession was legal (it wasn't legal or illegal at the time) which I feel ignores a lot of things, including decades of Southern bullying of the North with threats of secession if they didn't get their way all the time with slaves.

[–]ultranoodles 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most people I meet just say it was a war over states rights. Its like they haven't even read the letters of secession. Because they probably haven't.