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[–]revolting_blob 4ポイント5ポイント  (14子コメント)

Well, the US govt has basically admitted that cannabis can cure many types of cancer, and prevent others, it's right there on the national cancer institute website for anyone to see, added quietly last year, and hardly anyone noticed.

Edit for the downvoters: http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/patient/cannabis-pdq

Edit: My mistake - that link shows everything in one page on mobile, but on desktop the content is split between multiple pages. Here's the info: http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/patient/cannabis-pdq#section/_3

See question #6 in particular (although they are all informative)

[–]FreeCashFlow 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

It says that literally nowhere. Relieving cancer symptoms (nausea, insomnia, etc.) is not at all the same as curing cancer.

[–]natostrike -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

"Cannabis has been shown to kill cancer cells in the laboratory(see Question 6)"

I guess you didn't read past point 10.

[–]FreeCashFlow 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Lots of things kill cancer cells in the laboratory. UV radiation. Hydrochloric acid. Sub-zero temperatures. This does not make them useful treatments. There's also the issue of delivery. Even if chemicals in cannabis are effective cancer treatments, it's highly unlikely that inhaling them in smoke is an effective means of delivery, nor can the dosage be controlled effectively.

[–]natostrike -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

UV radiation in rats and mice? Hydrochloric acid? Good luck torture merchant.

Studies in mice and rats have shown that cannabinoids may inhibit tumor growth by causing cell death, blocking cell growth, and blocking the development of blood vessels needed by tumors to grow. Laboratory and animal studies have shown that cannabinoids may be able to kill cancer cells while protecting normal cells.

[–]revolting_blob -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Did you uhhhhhh.. Read the link? It literally says that it kills cancer cells, has anti tumour properties, cuts off blood supply to tumours and more.

[–]Yggdras1l 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

I've actually done research in this area and you are very correct. In fact, your body actually produces endogenous counterparts to cannabinoid called endocannabinoids that have been found to inhibit growth of many cancers and very effective in breast cancer. These eCBs increase with exercise and are responsible for the "Runner's High".

Sadly, you'd be hard pressed to find a single oncologist who knows this or prescribes exercise as preventative treatment.

[–]SignalTheSirens -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's easy to forget that your average oncologist has been to medical school/premedical school for 12 years of his life.

[–]Yggdras1l 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

One of my colleagues used to teach at John Hopkins. For his post doc, he was to research and teach one class a semester. The curriculum for medical school included a single 90 minute lecture, just one, covering exercise. Now, being that exercise is shown over and over again to be vastly superior to most modern medications and huge beneficial to cancer patients, why do MDs receive virtually no education in prescription? Why are exercise physiologists not seen as specialists in the same regard as a general practitioner would recommend a fatty to a dietician or a knee surgery to an orthopedic surgeon?

It fits with this thread. Exercise is cheap, pharmaceuticals make money.

[–]revolting_blob 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Umm. The reason they can't and won't prescribe it is because a) it is illegal, and b) there have literally been no human trials because they weren't allowed. All we have, by design, is anecdotal evidence, but that evidence looks very good. Just ask the National Cancer Institute - it's right there on their website. I'm pretty sure they employ a couple oncologists and maybe a janitor or something.

[–]doomdaddy510 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Where does it say that?

[–]natostrike 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Cannabis has been shown to kill cancer cells in the laboratory(see Question 6)"

Point 11, keep reading bucko.

[–]revolting_blob 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Under the questions and answers

edit: http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/patient/cannabis-pdq#section/_3

[–]Lilleskygge 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not a single time did it say that it could TREAT/CURE cancer. Only the side effects from the cancer treatment, that is an other story. But at this day of age we have alot of other meds that take care of the side effects in a good way.

How do I know that the meds work? Had cancer, got chemo for 6 months (the red devil also known as FEC100. And Taxol). The oncologists give you whatever you need to cope with the side effects.

And did I mention that my oncologist (the head onco and professor) even wrote a book about cancer and alternative medicine/treatment? It is in Norwegian tho.

[–]revolting_blob 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

allow me to quote directly from the links I posted.

Other possible effects of cannabinoids include Anti-inflammatory activity, Blocking cell growth, Preventing the growth of blood vessels that supply tumors, Antiviral activity, Relieving muscle spasms caused by multiple sclerosis.

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Studies in mice and rats have shown that cannabinoids may inhibit tumor growth by causing cell death, blocking cell growth, and blocking the development of blood vessels needed by tumors to grow. Laboratory and animal studies have shown that cannabinoids may be able to kill cancer cells while protecting normal cells.

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A study in mice showed that cannabinoids may protect against inflammation of the colon and may have potential in reducing the risk of colon cancer, and possibly in its treatment.

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A laboratory study of delta-9-THC in hepatocellular carcinoma (liver cancer) cells showed that it damaged or killed the cancer cells. The same study of delta-9-THC in mouse models of liver cancer showed that it had antitumor effects. Delta-9-THC has been shown to cause these effects by acting on molecules that may also be found in non-small cell lung cancer cells and breast cancer cells.

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A laboratory study of cannabidiol (CBD) in estrogen receptor positive and estrogen receptor negative breast cancer cells showed that it caused cancer cell death while having little effect on normal breast cells. Studies in mouse models of metastatic breast cancer showed that cannabinoids may lessen the growth, number, and spread of tumors.

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A laboratory study of cannabidiol (CBD) in human glioma cells showed that when given along with chemotherapy, CBD may make chemotherapy more effective and increase cancer cell death without harming normal cells. Studies in mouse models of cancer showed that CBD together with delta-9-THC may make chemotherapy such as temozolomide more effective.