Kickstarter

Big Mac about 2 hours ago

@Chris C, you make an excellent point. Enough backers did exactly what Creator said and reported this project to Kickstarter. The fool even posted the link to make reporting as easy as possible. I mean, I only ever do what I'm told so what choice did I have but to hit the button? It is really delicious irony that we did what he said then he/Margarine/etc scream their tits off when the project gets suspended. Ya gotta wonder what good college did for Made in College.

On another note, I love what Mattie boy said here: "Kickstarter needs to regulate its community better to prevent obviously disingenuous people from ruining startup culture." I agree entirely. Disingenuous people like Made in College certainly are ruining startup culture. But then again, is MIC a startup? After all, they say they are a full service accelerator with a project lead yadayadayada. MIC, what are you - startup or full service accelerator? If the latter, what the f**k does it mean anyway?

Thank you.

Steve Renkins about 2 hours ago

CHRIS CREATOR IS TOO DUMB THEY TOLD PEOPLE THE LINK TO REPORT PROJECT AND THEY DID! HAHAHAHAH HOW STUPID!

Steve Renkins about 2 hours ago

GOOD JOB BIGMAC! WE DID IT :))))

Steve Renkins about 2 hours ago

YESSSSSSS LETS ALL WATCH THE WORLD BURNNNNNN! :)))

Chris C about 5 hours ago

@Creator + whatever account you subsequently set up to post via

Surely you have to see the funny side of all this.
You posted many many times including the link, almost begging people to report this project.
They did exactly what you told them and now your throwing your toys out of your pram.

If you don't find it funny I have to say I do, its not often you see someone so dumb as to instruct people on how to burn possibly hundreds of thousands of dollars of their money by simply following their instructions.

That said, you would of thought that would have been a lesson to you and the silly posts would stop but no, you just carry on taking your foot out of your mouth so you can ram the other one in.

Big Mac about 6 hours ago

@Creator, I just googled Indiegogo + Koze. Surprisingly, nothing. Have you turned over a new leaf or just rebadged the world's best inflatable thingy?

Big Mac about 6 hours ago

@Laura, more than a little dodgy indeed. Similar mannerisms.
Creator: "reallyyyy cool"
Margarine: "lolllll"

@Creator/Matt/Margarine, would you mind sharing with us Kickstarter's message when they suspended. That would be reallyyyy cool ... lolllll

Laura Ling about 8 hours ago

Seems odd to me that several brand new accounts with a sole project backed (Margarine Baker, Mr. White, and tstump) are weighing in in favor of this project, while those who are suspicious have been around for a while and backed multiple projects.

I wonder if Kickstarter logs IP Addresses...

Robert Fixer Smith about 11 hours ago

one falsehood to shut some people up is that you can always pledge whatever you want to most any KS project, even $1, even if they don't shot it on the reward tiers. Once you are in the Manage Pledge page, there is always a "No Reward" options that you can enter in any amount.

Randy Howell about 13 hours ago

Really bummed. Sorry this won't go forward. I still want one!

Malcolm about 16 hours ago

@Margarine: relax, there are plenty of other places you can buy one of these inflatable beds. It's not the end of the world... And please stop spamming, and stay kind. Have a nice day!

Margarine Baker about 16 hours ago

@bigmac 8am in australia, were u up all night trolling? lolllll

Margarine Baker about 16 hours ago

lets get kickstarter to kick all products here that are being sold elsewhere...Jonathan Richard Woodford is just one of those creators also known as "big mac". reselling other projects that he finds on kickstarter itself!

Margarine Baker about 16 hours ago

u getting nervous bigmac? too big to dodge these questions! you and belaycords are going to have something in common--both owning cancelled projects! its obvious you own the quickdraw cable project and you've been trolling belaycords to make them look bad...hilarious...reported them for violating patent and reselling...enjoyyyyyy

Big Mac about 16 hours ago

Must be warm weather in Chapel Hill NC. Margarine is melting.

Margarine Baker about 17 hours ago

stop dodging bigmac....LOL
@bigmac respond to these TERRIBLE reviews of quickdraw, a product that copied belaycords and has TERRIBLE reviews. what is your affiliation with the project? how long have you worked with them?
regarding Quickdraw cables (in the same colors as belaycords!)
"Still waiting...
Been 6 months past the promised Oct 2015"
"How long should delivery take? I still haven't received anything since you confiemed changing my order from micro usb to usb-c"
"I got 2 cables, one gives message cable accessory is not certified after 1 week of use and the other one lighting part detached
Photo available but I can't send in the comments."
"I regret backing this project. the cable looks cheap. not worth the $30."
"@Woodford Design I sent you an email almost a week ago with no response regarding the cap of a 2 meter lightning USB cable that keeps coming off. Can you get back to me about this pls?"
"I contacted the company 3 weeks ago. Was told if they hadn't arrived they would resend. Messaged them a couple of times and still waiting for information. I'm glad some people have received their orders. I still wait in hope."
"Hi, my cable tidy isn't magnetic, can you resend me one? Thanks"
"I havent received mine yet."
"no cable has arrived yet for me in the uk - likewise they have taken my order filled in forms etc some time ago but as yet nothing has arrived starting to loose faith in this project - co communication either - disappointing."
"Well, I'm in Holland, but until now, NO cables, ?...?"
"Still no cable
Still no communication
Still no apologies"
"Very Very dissapointed
Still waiting for my micro USB cable
No information or contact
what is going on
well overdue now and no explanations"
RE: QUICKDRAW CABLES COPY OF BELAYCORDS
And the complaints go on and on...

Big Mac about 17 hours ago

@Daryl, sorry I meant cancelled.

Daryl Lang about 17 hours ago

@Margarine Baker
Hey, tone it down a few notches… I'm a positive supporter of both Baley Cords and this project…,what are you trying to do, alienate people who support this project?

The link he provided
http://zaize.en.alibaba.com/product/60439603662-802898084/Outdoor_Inflatable_Hangout_Air_Hammock.html…

… clearly shows someone selling something similar for a dollar apiece if you order thousand. That's what I was commenting on .

Margarine Baker about 17 hours ago

@bigmac respond to these TERRIBLE reviews of quickdraw, a product that copied belaycords and has TERRIBLE reviews. what is your affiliation with the project? how long have you worked with them?
regarding Quickdraw cables (in the same colors as belaycords!)
"Still waiting...
Been 6 months past the promised Oct 2015"
"How long should delivery take? I still haven't received anything since you confiemed changing my order from micro usb to usb-c"
"I got 2 cables, one gives message cable accessory is not certified after 1 week of use and the other one lighting part detached
Photo available but I can't send in the comments."
"I regret backing this project. the cable looks cheap. not worth the $30."
"@Woodford Design I sent you an email almost a week ago with no response regarding the cap of a 2 meter lightning USB cable that keeps coming off. Can you get back to me about this pls?"
"I contacted the company 3 weeks ago. Was told if they hadn't arrived they would resend. Messaged them a couple of times and still waiting for information. I'm glad some people have received their orders. I still wait in hope."
"Hi, my cable tidy isn't magnetic, can you resend me one? Thanks"
"I havent received mine yet."
"no cable has arrived yet for me in the uk - likewise they have taken my order filled in forms etc some time ago but as yet nothing has arrived starting to loose faith in this project - co communication either - disappointing."
"Well, I'm in Holland, but until now, NO cables, ?...?"
"Still no cable
Still no communication
Still no apologies"
"Very Very dissapointed
Still waiting for my micro USB cable
No information or contact
what is going on
well overdue now and no explanations"
RE: QUICKDRAW CABLES COPY OF BELAYCORDS
And the complaints go on and on...
in short Quickdraw copies belaycords and then raises $28k ON KICKSTARTER. The question is, is bigmac associated with them? so many complaints about not receiving their cables and so many "unauthorized devices". It sounds like quickdraw is not even MFI certified. BigMac backs them and doesn't leave one comment about a copy of the belaycords product--then leaves a myriad of comments with obvious fervor.

Margarine Baker about 17 hours ago

you backed two projects....wtf is "the name of the wind" some sort of LARP shit?

Big Mac about 17 hours ago

@Margarine, now I know why I prefer butter :)

Big Mac about 17 hours ago

@Margarine, now I know why I prefer butter :)

Sam about 17 hours ago

@margarine I think its hilarious when creators proxy backer accounts and have a public meltdown :D

lets look at your history... oh.. wow.. just created your account and 16 comments with nothing but praise for the project or insults to those who are calling out the truth behind it.

Margarine Baker about 17 hours ago

Everyone report QUICKDRAW cables, BIGMAC is obviously a frontman for them, complaining about belaycords and trying to push his own brand.
click this link, scroll to the bottom and click report this project for prohibited resale.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/woodforddesign/quickdraw-20-cable-led-light-reversible-usb-iphone/description
"this project copies a previous project https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/madeincollege/belaycords-reversible-usb-charging-cords-iphone-an and uses the patent without permission. you may contact the patent holder to ask if he paid anything for the usage. I already did and they said that they did NOT. its easy to knock off a project and make the price cheaper if you don't pay royalties for PATENTED technologies...WHAT A JOKE!

Margarine Baker about 17 hours ago

if we want to protect the kickstarter community lets stop ALL COPIES. 3d printers, laser engravers, wallets....all that shit that everyone copies...not UNIQUE PROJECTS WE ACTUALLY LIKE!

Daryl Lang about 17 hours ago

@Big Mac
I think you're mistaken… this is Kickstarter, they don't collect the pledges till the end so there's nothing to refund. Only Indiegogo collects pledges up front so they would have to refund if they cancelled the campaign, which they rarely do… there are a ton of scams on Indiegogo but they have had some good projects as well.

Margarine Baker about 17 hours ago

@bigmac how can u say no news is good news...LOOK AT ALL THE TERRIBLE COMMENTS ABOUT QUICKDRAW!
and if you want to see copies, look at bigmac's backing history...he backs belaycords and then something called "quickdraw cables". they look IDENTICAL to belaycords, but Kickstarter allowed them on. When i emailed the patent holder, he said he had no record of licensing or partnership with them.
.
regarding Quickdraw cables (in the same colors as belaycords!)
"Still waiting...
Been 6 months past the promised Oct 2015"
"How long should delivery take? I still haven't received anything since you confiemed changing my order from micro usb to usb-c"
"I got 2 cables, one gives message cable accessory is not certified after 1 week of use and the other one lighting part detached
Photo available but I can't send in the comments."
"I regret backing this project. the cable looks cheap. not worth the $30."
"@Woodford Design I sent you an email almost a week ago with no response regarding the cap of a 2 meter lightning USB cable that keeps coming off. Can you get back to me about this pls?"
"I contacted the company 3 weeks ago. Was told if they hadn't arrived they would resend. Messaged them a couple of times and still waiting for information. I'm glad some people have received their orders. I still wait in hope."
"Hi, my cable tidy isn't magnetic, can you resend me one? Thanks"
"I havent received mine yet."
"no cable has arrived yet for me in the uk - likewise they have taken my order filled in forms etc some time ago but as yet nothing has arrived starting to loose faith in this project - co communication either - disappointing."
"Well, I'm in Holland, but until now, NO cables, ?...?"
"Still no cable
Still no communication
Still no apologies"
"Very Very dissapointed
Still waiting for my micro USB cable
No information or contact
what is going on
well overdue now and no explanations"
RE: QUICKDRAW CABLES COPY OF BELAYCORDS
And the complaints go on and on...
in short Quickdraw copies belaycords and then raises $28k ON KICKSTARTER. The question is, is bigmac associated with them? so many complaints about not receiving their cables and so many "unauthorized devices". It sounds like quickdraw is not even MFI certified. BigMac backs them and doesn't leave one comment about a copy of the belaycords product--then leaves a myriad of comments with obvious fervor.
@Bigmac did you receive your quickdraw cable? how come you don't comment on their project? What do you have to say about copy cats of cables and products?
@Sam if we're going to allow copies of other projects directly like this one....a boatload of wallets, 3d printers, and other variations, how do we stop products with actual PATENTS? How does kickstarter draw the line?
Indiegogo doesnt have the same amount of backers, but at least they are transparent...on to indiegogo if Kickstarter doesn't reverse this IMO

Margarine Baker about 17 hours ago

@bigmac no news is not good news...LOL quickdraw is crap and a blatent copy of belaycords. you can't say this project copies another and then say quickdraw doesnt. oh because they add a little LED to a cable they're unique? doubtful. I'll contact apple and see if they have record of it being MFI certified. however, the backers already said it says "this cable is unauthorized"--which means they arent even certified by apple. an obvious ripoff kickstarter project--something we're seeing more and more here

Margarine Baker about 17 hours ago

@daryl you're delusional if u think they cost $1 and even dumber than you sound

Daryl Lang about 17 hours ago

@Margarine Baker
I was just commenting on the link he provided. I don't know much about Alababa.com or importing or what materials they're made out of. But it does say $1. if you order 1000. I'm not going to be doing that anytime soon. ;) but if I do I'll be in touch. :)

Big Mac about 17 hours ago

@Margarine, I meant to add that my QD cable has a handy little light on the end which glows orange when charging and green when fully charged. So it's not identical. Calm down and have a nice day.

Big Mac about 17 hours ago

@Margarine, yes I got myQuickdraw cable and love it. Yes, it is MFI certified. Yes, it always works. Yes, no news is good news - if it had a problem I would comment on it. No, I'm not associated with them - if I was, wouldn't I be shouting my praise of their product all over their comments page?

@Creator, if you think Kickstarter will un-suspend you, you're delusional. All pledges have already been refunded. They'll use this project as an example to demonstrate how well they protect and look after their backer community. Anyway, just limp away and lick your wounds. No doubt you'll find another Chinese manufacturer who wants you to front a project for them. I recommend you use Indiegogo for the next scam - they let creators delete comments from backers.

Margarine Baker about 17 hours ago

@Daryl there is zero chance you can get these for $1 in china...If you can i'll buy as many as u can get. Just shipping into the US by boat would be a couple thousand more..then you pay import taxes and still need to ship the Kozes out... so even if we say $1 per, then you add $10 for import and VAT, $15 for shipping and packaging materials, kickstarter takes 20%...you're already getting close. I would bet these cost around $30 to make with any kind of durable materials

Margarine Baker about 17 hours ago

@Sam they've said a million times they're even patent pending. the only way to know for sure is to see who acquires the patent first. Whats the difference between the million wallets on here and this? and how many of those "minimalist (read: shit) wallets" are on here, identical...Kickstarter enforces this policy very sporadically...madeincollege just sue them!

Margarine Baker about 17 hours ago

and if you want to see copies, look at bigmac's backing history...he backs belaycords and then something called "quickdraw cables". they look IDENTICAL to belaycords, but Kickstarter allowed them on. When i emailed the patent holder, he said he had no record of licensing or partnership with them.
.
regarding Quickdraw cables (in the same colors as belaycords!)
"Still waiting...
Been 6 months past the promised Oct 2015"
"How long should delivery take? I still haven't received anything since you confiemed changing my order from micro usb to usb-c"
"I got 2 cables, one gives message cable accessory is not certified after 1 week of use and the other one lighting part detached
Photo available but I can't send in the comments."
"I regret backing this project. the cable looks cheap. not worth the $30."
"@Woodford Design I sent you an email almost a week ago with no response regarding the cap of a 2 meter lightning USB cable that keeps coming off. Can you get back to me about this pls?"
"I contacted the company 3 weeks ago. Was told if they hadn't arrived they would resend. Messaged them a couple of times and still waiting for information. I'm glad some people have received their orders. I still wait in hope."
"Hi, my cable tidy isn't magnetic, can you resend me one? Thanks"
"I havent received mine yet."
"no cable has arrived yet for me in the uk - likewise they have taken my order filled in forms etc some time ago but as yet nothing has arrived starting to loose faith in this project - co communication either - disappointing."
"Well, I'm in Holland, but until now, NO cables, ?...?"
"Still no cable
Still no communication
Still no apologies"
"Very Very dissapointed
Still waiting for my micro USB cable
No information or contact
what is going on
well overdue now and no explanations"
RE: QUICKDRAW CABLES COPY OF BELAYCORDS
And the complaints go on and on...
in short Quickdraw copies belaycords and then raises $28k ON KICKSTARTER. The question is, is bigmac associated with them? so many complaints about not receiving their cables and so many "unauthorized devices". It sounds like quickdraw is not even MFI certified. BigMac backs them and doesn't leave one comment about a copy of the belaycords product--then leaves a myriad of comments with obvious fervor.
@Bigmac did you receive your quickdraw cable? how come you don't comment on their project? What do you have to say about copy cats of cables and products?
@Sam if we're going to allow copies of other projects directly like this one....a boatload of wallets, 3d printers, and other variations, how do we stop products with actual PATENTS? How does kickstarter draw the line?
Indiegogo doesnt have the same amount of backers, but at least they are transparent...on to indiegogo if Kickstarter doesn't reverse this IMO

Margarine Baker about 17 hours ago

and if you want to see copies, look at bigmac's backing history...he backs belaycords and then something called "quickdraw cables". they look IDENTICAL to belaycords, but Kickstarter allowed them on. When i emailed the patent holder, he said he had no record of licensing or partnership with them.
.
regarding Quickdraw cables (in the same colors as belaycords!)
"Still waiting...
Been 6 months past the promised Oct 2015"
"How long should delivery take? I still haven't received anything since you confiemed changing my order from micro usb to usb-c"
"I got 2 cables, one gives message cable accessory is not certified after 1 week of use and the other one lighting part detached
Photo available but I can't send in the comments."
"I regret backing this project. the cable looks cheap. not worth the $30."
"@Woodford Design I sent you an email almost a week ago with no response regarding the cap of a 2 meter lightning USB cable that keeps coming off. Can you get back to me about this pls?"
"I contacted the company 3 weeks ago. Was told if they hadn't arrived they would resend. Messaged them a couple of times and still waiting for information. I'm glad some people have received their orders. I still wait in hope."
"Hi, my cable tidy isn't magnetic, can you resend me one? Thanks"
"I havent received mine yet."
"no cable has arrived yet for me in the uk - likewise they have taken my order filled in forms etc some time ago but as yet nothing has arrived starting to loose faith in this project - co communication either - disappointing."
"Well, I'm in Holland, but until now, NO cables, ?...?"
"Still no cable
Still no communication
Still no apologies"
"Very Very dissapointed
Still waiting for my micro USB cable
No information or contact
what is going on
well overdue now and no explanations"
RE: QUICKDRAW CABLES COPY OF BELAYCORDS
And the complaints go on and on...
in short Quickdraw copies belaycords and then raises $28k ON KICKSTARTER. The question is, is bigmac associated with them? so many complaints about not receiving their cables and so many "unauthorized devices". It sounds like quickdraw is not even MFI certified. BigMac backs them and doesn't leave one comment about a copy of the belaycords product--then leaves a myriad of comments with obvious fervor.
@Bigmac did you receive your quickdraw cable? how come you don't comment on their project? What do you have to say about copy cats of cables and products?
@Sam if we're going to allow copies of other projects directly like this one....a boatload of wallets, 3d printers, and other variations, how do we stop products with actual PATENTS? How does kickstarter draw the line?
Indiegogo doesnt have the same amount of backers, but at least they are transparent...on to indiegogo if Kickstarter doesn't reverse this IMO

Margarine Baker about 17 hours ago

@bigmac you gross little troll you've made all sorts of wild accusations about this company. just stfu...you're probably sitting at work trolling these kickstarters instead of actually doing work. GET A LIFE. seriously. like ho has the time to write 900!!! comments to ONE company. that is sooooo weird...I wish you created a project so we could give you the same treatment, but i guess you're just a little girl who complains about projects instead of creating your own. I would love to learn more about you and your sad little life...if anyone is curious about this troll, click this link! https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/342062377

Sam about 17 hours ago

@Matt True or False: The air bag device referred to as a "Koze" is an original product that was created by MadeInCollege.

Be careful how you answer, perjury is a real thing, and purposeful untruths to customers can lose you your business license.

Daryl Lang about 19 hours ago

Oops… Btw, THESE aren't hypothetical questions, I'd like to know what you think about that?

Daryl Lang about 19 hours ago

@Davis Freimanis
I bought 2 with the lightening connectors and no problem with iPhone 5, iPad 2 and iPad Air2… just saying…

@Erik Neuhaus
so I can get 1000 knockoffs for $1000. … that's crasy… I wish I had a 1000 friends. But are these cheap nylon or parachute material like this project?

Also, I did look at the Kaisr and I like the added side pockets… but I don't think fatboy has them so maybe the Kaisr is just a better mousetrap and if so, what's wrong with that??

Btw, this aren't hypothetical questions, I'd like to know what you think about that?

Big Mac about 19 hours ago

My own take on the process in general, and this creator in particular, is a little different. I used to think that Kickstarter creators came up with ideas and scoured the world to find manufacturers who can turn the ideas into products. There are still projects like that e.g. Coolest Cooler (but look what happened to that one).

I've come to realise that most of this stuff is driven by manufacturers who are constantly trying to differentiate and compete by coming up with ideas, making prototypes and then looking for people in consumer markets to front the projects. The reality is that most of the manufacturers these days are Chinese and many of the front men are Americans because of the large consumer demand. There would be agents who source front men for Chinese manufacturers and I think that's what happened here.

As for this Creator, you don't have to scratch the surface too deep. Rent a Goat is easy to associate with Matthew Richmond and it's a classic low cost low maintenance franchise system from a self-described "serial entrepreneur". These sort of people gravitate towards crowdfunding platforms like flies to faeces. Then they build themselves up to be serious players ("full service accelerator") with good systems/processes/governance ("board/project lead") constantly innovating to make the world a better place. But all they do is spruik, make money and move on to the next world's greatest/newest/smallest/best ...

Made in College "created" Puffin Spray on KS and realised it was crap. So they sold their backers on to a similar project called Liquidoff. MIC created nothing and delivered nothing. Next was BelayCords with the promise of delivery in the same month the funding closed. The. Same. Month. Of course that didn't happen - delayed month after month. And then the dreaded Lifetime Guarantee. Seriously? Many of the cables were crap and they demanded backers pay to ship the old ones back and have their new ones shipped back. Maybe not so bad in the US but what about Europe or anywhere else?

And now their latest grand adventure: Koze. Say. No. More.

Heather K B about 20 hours ago

I still want a KOZE, anybody know how to get in touch with these guys besides the Belay website ?