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Remember the girl who dumped her boyfriend because he lacked "ambition" but was secretly loaded with cash, well here's the update from the same girl (self.TheRedPill)

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Thanks to One_friendship_plz for finding this. This post comes from another subreddit, I'm sure you can guess which one.

Summary

In 2014 I went through a pretty bad break-up. I met Will at a NYE party hosted by a friend-of-a-friend and we dated for 10ish months. I loved him - it was probably the best relationship I'd had on a 'personal connection' level - but he had been dishonest about some things (not infidelity - 'life' things) and it led to us breaking up. I couldn't come to terms with his lying by omission - it seemed like he threw away our relationship over nothing.

She blames Will (the guy who is loaded) for ending the relationship because it was obviously his fault that he didn't share his money on her. Like we all know, it's never her fault, she's the victim here.

I was pretty unhappy for a while, not gonna lie. Went on a few dates, had a few Tinder flings, but nothing serious......just all-around happy and patiently waiting for Mr. Right to come along.

So she fucked random men, nothing ever serious and yet she expects her Mr. Right.

My friends and I were invited to the same NYE party this year, hosted by the same person. I knew there was a chance my ex would be there, but I didn't care - I was over him.

Oh I'm sure you were over him, otherwise why else would he be on your mind constantly.

So my girls and I are there early, having a few cocktails and everything is going great... then Will walks through the door. He saw me, smiled, walked directly over and gave me a big hug. With his arms wrapped around me, smelling his cologne... I just melted. In that moment, whatever bad feelings I had about our relationship were completely gone. I just genuinely missed him.

Just like that, all those bad feelings are gone when she sees Will, her Alpha.

My friends could tell that seeing him had affected me. They took me to a more private area of the house to talk it out; they reminded me to not get ahead of myself, he's still the same guy who lied to you.

Her friends are trying to make her feel better by blame shifting everything on Will, obviously the feelings with this one are strong.

Will found another girl

She arrived about 10 minutes later and Will introduced her to everyone. She seemed nice enough, but seeing them together made me sick to my stomach. I swear she was being all touchy-feely with him just to spite me. I did my best to avoid them throughout the night. I found out through a friend that they'd been dating for 2 or 3 months. The party ended, I got into a car with my friends and just started sobbing uncontrollably. They tried to comfort me but I was too far gone. They dropped me off and I cried for while longer alone in my apartment.

Of course, she was definitely trying to spite you. Alpha widowed forever.

I want him back so bad, I just don't know what to do :(

Awwwwwww...it's ok, you'll find a man that will make you happy one day.

If you read the comments section, no one is comforting her, they all say it's her fault for ending the relationship.

EDIT: You can find the originsl story on my page, just go under my submitted stuff for those of you who are interested.

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[–]DatYute 258ポイント259ポイント  (55子コメント)

What's funny is that she says that the reason the relationship ended was because he lied to her about "life things"(his money), but in the original story, SHE was the one who left him because he was not ambitious enough for her and their dates consisted of watching movies at his apartment. She then later found out, from a friend of his, that he was filthy rich.

[–]Linoran 124ポイント125ポイント  (35子コメント)

It's quite amazing actually how they manage to twist stories like that. "It's not a lie if you believe it".

[–]NAmember81 67ポイント68ポイント  (20子コメント)

I was sharing an apartment with a girl and got sick of her shitty attitude and non stop bitching so while she was gone one day I packed all my stuff up and moved out. A week or so later when I was getting the larger items from the apartment she makes a comment like "that's why I had to break up with you". Lol

I didn't waste my time arguing about who left who but I'm sure the story she tells herself and others is that she kicked me out.

[–]tb87670 55ポイント56ポイント  (19子コメント)

She really believed she dumped you after you packed up your shit and left her. This is so fucking stupid that it can't be made up. You dodged the bullet broseph.

[–]NAmember81 63ポイント64ポイント  (18子コメント)

I dodged an artillery shell. She got pregnant by some other bloke within a month of me leaving. This was in November 2012 and my mom's still friends with her on Facebook and she is freaking enormous and her baby's daddy in the pictures looks miserable tagging along with her while she's doing selfies at The Cheesecake Factory.

I'm 34 and so thankful that I'm single with no kids. I can do whatever I wish without answering to anybody, so nice.

[–]wiseprogressivethink 72ポイント73ポイント  (11子コメント)

Ever had a girlfriend cheat on you, then later explain/justify it to you by saying that she didn't really cheat because she had already broken up with you...in her mind?

I'm putting this out there, half expecting the follow-up comments to be "ouch...that's a new one" but also half-expecting the follow-up comments to be "yep, same exact shit happened to me too."

(AWALT, but the specific scenarios and excuses can still be novel.)

[–]Battle-Scars 51ポイント52ポイント  (5子コメント)

Cheating is her way to say she's breaking up with you, it's up to you to pick up the signals yourself.

[–]Seducibledotcom 26ポイント27ポイント  (3子コメント)

I "leave" my gf a couple times a month. I just never get around to telling her.

[–]me_gusta_poon 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Can you explain this further?

[–]Appleseed12333 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

its like you can see the hamster and translate what it's saying.

[–]UCISee 31ポイント32ポイント  (2子コメント)

Same. Shit. Different faces. "You left me on the side like trash! I had to find someone who treated me well!" This was a wife. While I was deployed. Six weeks in to the deployment. Then she tried to tell me it never happened on any other deployments. You couldn't even wait two months, what makes you think I believe you waited over a year!?

[–]Wel108 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I had a similar thing happen to me where she denied ever doing anything. Of course, i looked into it, and i uncovered the truth. The weirdest most satisfying look you will ever see from a female is when you both know she just got caught 150% in her lie, and you see her for who she really is.

Of course that also means its the end of you guys in every way possible. Because you now remind her of the her she doesn't "want to be."

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's delusional to expect someone capable of getting laid to remain celibate throughout the duration of deployments. People in the military shouldn't be in relationships at all once they ship off.

[–]Betamax69 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep. Same exact thing happened to me. One of the things I love about this forum is comparing notes and seeing AWALT from different people's perspective

[–]chrismonx 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This reminds me of being a teenager way to much.

[–]Draki1903 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

George Costanza isn't really a good life model to imitate

[–]yamehameha -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Must be a Clinton supporter.

[–]Caucasian-African 47ポイント48ポイント  (10子コメント)

It's amazing how women will just automatically change basic premises / details in an argument or discussion. They make those small changes hoping you won't notice, or will just let it slide.

[–]Ojisan1 41ポイント42ポイント  (6子コメント)

Gaslighting is a real skill that most women have, and while some may choose not to use it, most men are generally lacking good defenses against it. As always, maintaining frame is everything.

[–]cruelironage 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yep. If you're going to try to LTR up a girl you better know how to steel yourself against the common solipsistic gaslighting a woman will engage in.

[–]Entropy-7 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

For women, the ret-cons they pull seem to be more about keeping their own, perpetually shattered ego together rather than as an intentional method of psychological abuse to drive you crazy.

It's more of a reverse gaslighting because they do it to themselves to convince themselves that they are not insane WRT their choices and behavior in your relationship, especially after the relationship ends on a bad note.

[–]reddymcwoody 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

How exactly do you defend against it?

I try call them out on the small key details they changed and they flip it on me and make me seem juvenile.

[–]2Overkillengine 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Steamroll it by acting on what you have actually observed instead of what she tells you that you saw.

Do not negotiate. Do not argue. Act. And if she does not get in line, NEXT!

Anything other than that runs a much higher chance of encouraging and enabling that bullshit. Which means, you as a male, are going to be stuck forever in the patriarchal role because no one else in her fucking life is forcing her to be responsible!

[–]Ojisan1 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Frame.

Iron Rule of Tomassi #1:

Frame is everything. Always be aware of the subconscious balance of who’s frame in which you are operating. Always control the Frame, but resist giving the impression that you are.

[–]Ojisan1 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

the small key details

Exactly what not to do. By debating the details of the story you have already lost, you've entered her frame and are negotiating how you're going to live in her reality, not yours.

[–]DatYute 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

No doubt. In this case, it is actually a completely different story than what actually happened, masked in a way to look like she was always saying the same thing. Scary actually.

[–]keepyourkeys 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

And if you call them out on it, it makes the argument worse it's the most ridiculous tactic ever

[–]Entropy-7 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

As with a false rape accusation, unless you have things explicitly in writing or video evidence with audio (and ideally running commentary or mind-reading closed captions) , your side of the story is not really considered.

[–]SoTiredOfThis_Shit 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

holy shit, you're right. I forgot that tidbit. She spun it so well I believed her side. Evil.

[–]SamGill 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I concur and wish to add that: she complained that he didn't spend enough dough on her..........she spoke as if she was entitled to it, because she was a GF and is naturally entitled to jewelry and expensive holidays to Monaco etc. if her man could provide it - of course he would be entitled to nothing from her, because she is a modern empowered strong independent woman.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Only a moron spends Several $100+ on shiny rocks. You got suckered.

[–]RaptorFalcon 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hope someone called her on that with quotes from her original post.

Sure everyone makes mistakes, but at least most people own up to them.

[–]menial_optimist 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

.)

While he can do as he pleases, loaded or not watching movies in your apartment everytime would get boring fast.

[–]bluedrygrass 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

But she now apparently finds it the most satisfying thing ever, now that she learnt about his secret wealth. Strange how swiftly interests changes.

[–]ben0wn4g3 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That is absolutely amazing.

[–]S4mG0ld 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The value of stealth wealth can never be underestimated.

[–]ClimbingTehLadder 172ポイント173ポイント  (17子コメント)

Fucking demolished. I think about this story a couple times a week. Fantastic update/closure.

[–]barrel0monkeys 129ポイント130ポイント  (14子コメント)

This story doesn't think about you at all.

[–]nuesuh 85ポイント86ポイント  (9子コメント)

I want the story back so bad, I just don't know what to do :(

[–]-xanax- 36ポイント37ポイント  (6子コメント)

Awwww.... it's okay, you'll find a story that will make you happy one day

[–]nuesuh 32ポイント33ポイント  (5子コメント)

I won't lie. I sobbed uncontrollably for hours in my apartment.

[–]UCISee 12ポイント13ポイント  (4子コメント)

The story found another user, it's being overly karma-Ed just to spite you.

[–]nuesuh 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah, i swear it was getting upvoted just to spite me! :(

[–]UCISee 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's okay, you left it because it was being dishonest, not because you're an unpleasable wench.

[–]causeandcorrelation 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think that we all need to understand that there is one special story for all of us. If we just be ourselves then that special story will one day come along.

[–]killm3throwaway 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I got your madmen reference mate, dont worry.

[–]johnnyfukinfootball 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

In Mad Men they got that line from the Ayn Rand novel The Fountainhead.

[–]Koalasonfire 52ポイント53ポイント  (10子コメント)

Best part is how this story has been twisted after some time in her perspective.

[–]trumpisafaggybeta 48ポイント49ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is without a doubt the single biggest and most subtle message here. Look at how she twisted the story to make herself look like a victim. In reality she dumped this dude because he wasn't willing to give her his money. He then puts his cards on the table and she feels "cheated," somehow.

I'd say it's sad, but it's pretty scary that so many women have similar mentalities as this.

[–]Entropy-7 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

mentalities mental illnesses

There, corrected it for you.

[–]1Alphaspire 8ポイント9ポイント  (6子コメント)

Best part is how this story has been twisted after some time in her perspective.

This is her frame. It didn't hold up to inspection over text on the internet, but it might have worked on her friends IRL.

[–]FoxMcWeezer 22ポイント23ポイント  (5子コメント)

A woman's IRL girlfriends' job is not to help them grow into better human beings, it's to make each other feel good. That's the bottom line. They all have to lie to each other, like agreeing without personal thought that ex-boyfriend was an asshole, or blindly complimenting each other's pictures on social media. That's why it worked on her friends IRL. They each have to keep up this facade of supporting the other ambitionless friends so they in turn can use the support when they need it.

[–]SamGill 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

Met a girl. Devastatingly hot blonde girl.

I motion to her and say, come let's sit. she sits. we introduce each other.

Somehow we got talking about age.

"How old do you think I am?" she asked.

I noticed the wrinkles at the base of her slender neck - must have done a LOOOT of sunbaking, and thought, yup, definitely 28. I'm gonna lock it in. No brainer.

"Twenty eight!" i said confidently. (and not a day younger")

Her face turned to shock disappointment, annoyance. She took umbrage at the estimate: it was as if i took a shit on her dress. It was the most absurd thing she'd ever heard. How dare you! How dare you!

"Sam you should never say that to any girl!"

She was gasping, trying to recover from the damage to said ego.

It was then that i realised that girls when they ask things, want to be lied to. The only ones that don't are the occassional ones posting on TRP saying "I don't want the typical feel good you-go-girl advice that I normally get on 2xC - i want some honest help". Flatter me girlfriend, lie to me, when i ask a direct question, i expect you to read through the lines......

[–]Philhelm 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unless the woman has been impeccably polite, I will usually raise my real estimate by about ten years.

[–]bluedrygrass 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well them, how old was she really? don't let us hanging. She was really 28, wasn't she?

[–]SamGill 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

she was 24..........only four years less.

[–]1Alphaspire 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't disagree. I also think the vast majority of twox is used for the exact same reasons, hence the removal of posts that don't commiserate with OP.

I wanted to highlight that use of frame, because I wasn't certain if Koalasonfire made the connection and I wanted to reinforce that lesson for my benefit, and anyone else reading that didn't catch it.

[–]le_king_falcon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Her perception of the situation is her reality.

Once you understand that perception isn't reality and can be altered wholesale by emotion, stageplay and outright fallacy you begin to come to terms with the female ability to change her past actions to suit her.

[–]SoTiredOfThis_Shit 67ポイント68ポイント  (11子コメント)

he had been dishonest about some things

no, he was fucking prudent as hell.

Have to say, this girl wins dumb-ass-of-the-year award for dumping a guy for having far more money than he claimed to have. Nevermind, she spun the story. She originally dumped him because she thought he was a broke, ambitionless loser.

I have a similar situation (well, not as much as the hero in the above story). my exgf knew I made good money (she makes the same as I do - over 100k)... but she spent hers as fast as she made it (on what, I have no idea)... I managed to save up $800k over the years and I never told her how much I had. (I look a bit broke, I drive a really old truck, etc.... She drives a fancy-ass Audi SUV and prefers the most expensive ski resort in CA) Anyway, she was being bitchy to me one day about something and said "well, it's not like you're a millionaire or anything" and stupid me let it slip: "well, pretty close". Holy shit she was mad. Then two days later she asked if she could borrow $50k for a down payment on a condo. Silly girl, I have money because I don't piss it away. Anyway, I broke up with her about 2 months later as she was getting more and more abusive. Don't know if it had anything to do with the money, but boy her attitude toward me changed quick when she found out I had a bit of money.

[–]Origami84 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was risky. I hope you didnt trust her to use a pill or something.

[–]Entropy-7 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

I read a story, that might be apocryphal, about a guy who as a PUA ruse created fake bank statements and left them on his kitchen table or something but not completely out in open so that someone would have to "snoop" to actually read them. Then when he is on a date with a girl he makes an excuse early on to stop by his apartment to get something from his bedroom.

When they get there he leaves the girl alone for a few minutes while he "searches for" his "other wallet" or something. Invariably the girl snoops, reads the bank statements and gets the impression that he is loaded. So now she is wet before they even head out to dinner or the club or whatever; the evening rocks; he bangs her silly; and then he soft nexts her.

Another story I came across which is more credible is that feminists are trying to have men charged with rape if they lie about their job or income (in this case, saying they earn more or have more prestige than they actually do).

source1 source2

[–]So-Done-With-Life 20ポイント21ポイント  (4子コメント)

Fucking hell, 800k. That's an achievement right there bro. I'm on 60k a year and trying to invest 50% of my pay. Live in a old apartment and drive a shit malaysian brand car. Other guys at work are in brand new apartments and drive Subaru WRX STi's.

[–]DrewsLife 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

living comfortably now vs living comfortably in the future. Future usually pays off a shit ton.

[–]BEAVERWARRIORFTW 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Aren't WRX's kids cars? I saying this as a kid just for reference (18), but to me STI's have always been the cars that a kid (under 25) would want to buy a drive. I couldn't really see owning one as you approach 30. That being said, maybe by whole opinion on car's is a little screwed.

[–]So-Done-With-Life 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, they are. Most of the guys drive newer WRX's which usually cost upwards of $30k. $45k even. Most are in their 20s though.

I'd never buy one haha, only because they're too common.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMattyAnon 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't know if it had anything to do with the money, but boy her attitude toward me changed quick when she found out I had a bit of money.

She dropped you straight into the BB category and treated you accordingly.

[–]RaptorFalcon 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck yes. I own a house (second one, sold the first), I have 3 cars, my bank account has 5 figures, and my investments have 6.

I tell women none of what I have. They can get an idea from two of my cars, if they see them... But from my age they usually assume loans, debt, etc.... I don't correct that assumption. My money is none of their business.

[–]nothere_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

She splurged on an Audi SUV landbarge,no wonder shes bad with money

[–]2Meat-on-the-table 63ポイント64ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's like watching the Chronicles of the Alpha Widowed. How much are you willing to bet that she'll ride the CC for a while more, until sh'e "totally,like, over Will", then find a nice BB who "makes her feel special" and settle down with him?

Oh, that is, until Will comes around and decides he wants to bang.

[–]bam2_89 34ポイント35ポイント  (0子コメント)

Will knows better apparently.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRunawayGrain 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh, that is, until Will comes around and decides he wants to bang.

Judging by the party, Will ghosted her pretty well. Will had enough sense not to tell her about the money, ignored her totally when they were in a social situation, and then shows abundance by showing up with a hotter girl. I'd like to buy Will a beer.

"Bene vivere quam optima est ultio"

[–]Faps2Down_Votes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have Will buy you one with his grandpa's money.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 86ポイント87ポイント  (8子コメント)

I remember reading her original story and feeling a smug sense of schadenfreud.

But now I just find it sad.

Yeah, she fucked up. She let her feelings of inadequacy get the better of her, and she dumped her ex thinking that money was all that mattered.

But how much of this attitude did she inherit from the sick over-feminized culture in which she grew up? In a society that mistakes pleasure for happiness, and money for fulfillment, how could a growing child know any different?

We certainly didn't, until it hit us hard enough to hurt.

This is the role that masculinity serves in society. It keeps us focused on what is important, and steers us away from what is frivolous. It keeps women entranced and disciplined, and gives shape to their lives so they do not feel lost or purposeless.

To live a masculine life is to pursue the maximization of your happiness. Plain and simple. There can be NO happiness for anyone if men are not happy first.

[–]spacecowboyreturns 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

I used to see this as well from a societal standpoint as well and you cant not be pessimistic at any outlook if you start from there.

The out-of-control hypergamy we are experiencing is a natural adaptation to the explosive growth of our tribe. More and more humans are interconnected on an instant basis and that gives a sense of proximity. What once used to be a distinct evolutionary advantage outside the tribe (such as a sexual partner from far away) is nowadays something within the reach of a credit card swipe. Like an overpopulated ecosystem, inner stress increases, competition turns inward and self destructive and eats itself to death, predators turning to cannibalism. Nature already has biological weapons vs large-population interactions such as the nastiest sexual diseases, who are we to say nature doesnt have psychological weapons too? What if our tiny monkey brain is not meant to process such large societies?

If so, how in the global era will masculinity survive? Make the sidebar mandatory in high school, your citizenship depending on you passing the exams? Should we just all accept parettos law having babies with near-instant teletransportation and resign to whatever percentage we happen to be assigned to?

Fuck no. We adapt and overcome, we dont accept and absorb.

Logic needs to be drilled into people men AND women. Society and human interactions need to be observed through a lens made in this millennium. The modern human sciences need to become the orthodoxy of the modern era, the mantle of safeguarding whats valuable for humanity wont come through looking at roles though what worked in the past because the playing field has changed more than it had ever before. the lines need to be redrawn, and the rules must be clarified.

Without a massive TRP campaign/societal movement spearheaded by RedPillWomen this will always be a war of attrition. Until then, the only thing we can do is be the best we can be to those who matter the most to us.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

Without a massive TRP campaign/societal movement spearheaded by RedPillWomen this will always be a war of attrition.

The only reason Red Pill Women exists is because men created The Red Pill first, and then women said "Hey, let's do something like that too!"

No. Women will not lead the charge on anything. They never do. Women follow. That is their nature.

Until then, the only thing we can do is be the best we can be to those who matter the most to us.

Being the best we can be to those who matter to us is the ONLY thing men can do.

We cannot build a movement and save society, because that is precisely the self-sacrificing-gone-haywire that got us into this mess in the first place. If this toxic environment is ever to reverse itself at the grand scale, it must happen as the result of changes made at the individual scale. That is as much control as any of us have over the matter.

[–]bluedrygrass 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The only reason Red Pill Women exists is because men created The Red Pill first, and then women said "Hey, let's do something like that too!"

Truly. And i have a lot of doubts a woman can ever really be rep pilled outside of peronal interests and aims (=she's ugly; she's been burned in the past; she hates competition; etc. etc)

Most of the posts i've read in the redpillwomen sub, they sounded like parrots trying to say things to make certain demographics happy, not because they really grasped or believed in their words.

Awalt, awalt, awalt.

did you know autism is more difficult to diagnose in females, because even in their autistic state they try harder to integrate and look normal in the society? They're like Blade Runner's replicants. Aliens trying to assimilate.

[–]NoIamNotARobot 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Without a massive TRP campaign/societal movement spearheaded by RedPillWomen this will always be a war of attrition. Until then, the only thing we can do is be the best we can be to those who matter the most to us.

I don't believe this is how things can change. It's like you assume we can convince women. You can't argue with the hamsters my brother.

No one gives a fuck about men, no one will. It's not right or wrong, it just is. Eggs are expensive, sperm is cheap. Every psychological dynamic you see playing out in mass societies liberated from artificial constraints on the sexual market flows from this premise. This means, as a systemic matter, women are coddled, men are upbraided. Women are victims, men are victimizers. Women need a leg up, men need to man up. Women have advocacy groups, men have equal opportunity violations. A woman subjected to the indignity of eavesdropping on a tame joke about dongles makes national news, while the chilling fact that 95% of all workplace deaths are suffered by men barely pings the media consciousness.

So, because of the fundamental premise, this is how things can change:

  • The TRP ideas spread to enough men. Some of them will reach alpha, but even those who won't will understand that you don't have to marry post wall chicks.
  • After a while, stories like the one in the OP will reach a critical mass.
  • After a while, girls will be watching enough women like in the OP being miserable, and enough feminine and marriage-worthy chicks being happy.
  • Women only behave based on "Muh fee-feez". The hamster will start running to the right direction. Articles/Blog posts about the "new empowerment" of femininity and and traditional values will start poping up(check the language of TRP women to see this happening already).
  • Then maybe things will change

[–]RedPillOdin 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Funny how the exact opposite is preached in BP media. "Happy wife, happy life" anyone?

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Red Pill teaches the opposite: "Happy life, happy wife."

[–]1Alphaspire 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree.

I also think her original response seems to make sense. She wanted a life where her BB provided her with the traditional "american dream". He was not going to be that man, so she needed to find another.

She laments the fact that he could have been the ultimate provider even more due to the fact that she loved the other characteristics he brought to the table. She couldn't break him into the provider she wanted, and he was basically the best case scenario for her if she had been able to.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. +1

Her delusion - her illness - was in approaching the situation with entitlements (he owes me) rather than incentives (how can I inspire his loyalty and protective instinct?).

Had she been inoculated from developing a poisonous entitlement complex, she might still be with this guy, and the two of them could be working to make one another happy.

I don't want to see anyone lose if everyone can win.

[–]ddiogenesofsinope 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

Women and guys see this story very differently.

Women think he's a dick for just leaving her because it comes across like she was a gold digger, when she is concerned that he is lazy.

Guys love him because it shows that a woman cannot just love a guy unconditionally. Theres always something that hes not doing to show he loves her.

You couldn't just love him for who he was. You had to try and change him. He lacked 'ambition' and all of those things you think makes a great man, when actually he could have loved you, and taken care of you and your spawn forever.

Truly women can't love unconditionally.

[–]bam2_89 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

She left him. The women in the thread weren't even sympathetic.

[–]redsfan277 18ポイント19ポイント  (3子コメント)

Life's a bitch....and then you die

[–]Entropy-7 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

Or the Blue Pill version: Life's a bitch and then you marry one.

[–]Mgtowredpillonroids 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Massive Schadenboner. And a round of applause for Mr. Will MA MAN

[–]Stationarity 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

A friend of mine used to go dancing nightly in Dallas during the 80s. He had a friend that showed up to the club in a beat up pickup truck, wearing clean clothes, nothing fancy. This guy would dance with quite a few girls over the months, and eventually dated one, leading to marriage. That's when he revealed to her, and my friend, that he was a self made multimillionaire. He claimed he would have never known if a woman married him for the money.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMattyAnon 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

He claimed he would have never known if a woman married him for the money.

Unless there's a prenup and you're broke at the time.... she married him for money. It's always about the money.

Sure, in this case she didn't know that there was a jackpot... but she married expecting a monthly payment with a highly expensive (for him) opt out clause.

[–]Thaweed 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

pure gold right here.

"If a man with disposable income meets a women he likes, doesn't he want to treat her?" and "He could have easily kept our relationship alive by being forthcoming"

I love how he doesnt love her because he does not spend enough money on her.

[–]juiceperks 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

That story was almost as good as the one where the introverted video gamer's GF requested a break to travel the world and she found out he immediately started banging some other chick and she was livid... lol women.

[–]insertnames 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sauce? I need to rub one out before bed.

[–]juiceperks 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't know how i could find it but I'm positive it was posted on for but I think the original was deleted. The chick found out by an email from a nosy old lady neighbor.

[–]Uptonogood 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That one was pure gold. You could cut the hypocrisy with a knife.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 5ポイント6ポイント  (9子コメント)

Goddammit i remember this. Is the original still up? Where can I find it? I want to read the comments. They weren't sympathetic to her last time.

[–]One_friendship_plz 12ポイント13ポイント  (8子コメント)

She deleted her post, and the mods deleted the comments because people were too honest with her.
There's still an existing archive that has some of the comments before they were deleted though

https://archive.is/ednsL (The original post.)
https://archive.is/Nf7nf (The updated post.)

I should've left then and there, but I didn't want it to seem like him having a new girlfriend affected me. Like I hadn't gotten on with my fucking life after 14 months apart. And so I stayed.

It's really damn satisfying to read.

[–]weiguk 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

This is said to be the original post: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCoweMSUMAA63Cb.png (linked in your archive of the original post). In case someone just wants the posts and not the comments.

[–]FreakyFruit 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you. I really needed to read the preamble to the story, as it was deleted.

[–]trumpisafaggybeta 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank God people here archive this sort of shit.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Really satisfying thanks. Not sure if this was the reason but i know those mods don't allow relationship advice posts in that subreddit. She might have been making a complain post though. Which is typical of that sub.

[–]thats_abingo 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

So uh could anyone point me in the right direction of this thread so I can see the comments for research purposes....?

[–]indeydius 17ポイント18ポイント  (6子コメント)

There's an important theory conversation we can have about this. People are saying that she was 'alpha widowed' but he hid money from her so theory says the attraction was 'beta bux.' Now, just as I wrote this, I realized my error. He was with her without her having any idea of his money. He alpha-ed her. When she realized he had money he double-alpha-ed her. Therefore, widow.

Agree?

[–]3 Endorsed ContributorSkorchZang 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Will, you're not good enough for me, you don't have the kind of money I like. Goodbye, Will."

"Bye sweetie. Btw, I'm sitting on a few mil in oil investment money."

"What?! How dare you hide that from ME? Will? WILLLLLL..."

This wasn't a case of Alpha vs Beta, it was just a clever man vs. a basic bitch, with all the delicious heartrending results we've come to expect from such a match.

She is great fun like most girls... In that she looks at a man and sees only what's in it for her. You don't understand the first of it, if you're a man. They're living in a different world. It's like a teeming pool of she-sharks, and it's a free for all, who can grab the most manmeat for herself. Plus all the other sharks WILL gossip about you.

[–]WeedDaddy 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Her situation is like having the winning lottery ticket but throwing it in the trash and learning about it afterwards. Missing the chance of a lifetime.

I believe a woman feels a multimillionaire to be alpha initially, her prejudice gives him alpha credit, which the millionaire can squander though and change the woman's perception.

The typical betabux is only "well-off", having lower end 6-fig income, which can only give comfort, whereas an opulent lifestyle can provide real tingles without game if the man can set boundaries ("hold frame").

[–]DeltaRecon2552 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was thinking it was alpha... then alpha bux.

[–]unicorn-carousel 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think you're on track. I can't remember the details of the original story so I don't know if he's 'alpha' or 'beta' or what. My first instinct is that she's tingling for provider though. But in reality he's not using his money to try to be her provider, so got an alpha trait at least. Potentially alpha bucks because he didn't give a fuck when she dumped him or try to buy her love. Again though, I don't know how the rest of their relationship was, simply speculation.

[–]NAmember81 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

From the last story he sounded alpha because she mentioned something like bitching to him about his ambition and how playing the guitar isn't a real job and she told him she was leaving and "he acted like he didn't care" and that really pissed her off.

So he was probably like "as you wish, there's the door, bye".

This story is almost to good to be true. I hope it's not a long con troll.

[–]TheRedThrowAwayPill 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I want him back so bad, I just don't know what to do :(

You need to become a 2nd wife. It's your only chance.

[–]ysashka 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Holy shit, I remember this story all too well. Probably one of my favorites from this sub. Every once in a while it'll pop up in my mind and I'll have a good chuckle. Good on Will.

[–]1rife_omeqa 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fantastic example of a woman's casual relationship with the truth. AWALT.

The story changes after the fact in accordance with her mood, agenda or narrative, in this case the narrative required for her to claim victim-hood at a NYE party and on reddit.

Learn from this example. Don't underestimate a woman's capacity to do one thing and say another while 100% believing her own lies.

[–]mclorie 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Was this the guy who sat eating cheap food and watching YouTube documentaries and she wasn't happy with such a low-budget lifestyle?

[–]allnamesfckintaken 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

the problem with women these days is they want it all. they want to be taken care of but they don't feel like they should save themselves for that man. they want to ride the cock carousel then get taken care of by a good man. well, does anyone ever pick up trash at the park? no, they hire a janitor for that right? that's because nobody takes care of public property. well, if a woman gets fucked by like 30 guys, she's basically public property.

can someone explain to me why a man who has choices would ever choose a woman who was used up by 30 other guys? why would he devote all his time and energy into taking care of such a woman and put her on a pedestal?

[–]Gigandeth 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are you trying to advertise your profile? Why can't you link the article lime everyone else. You say we should go your page but I don't even know what the original article is called. I would have preferred reading that before having a look at your watered down version

[–]EMON87 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I went and read your original post...this man is my fucking hero. He's a legend. He's what every one of us should aspire to be like.

His handling of the breakup was epic. "Fine by me." I say that each time, but it still hurts. It didn't hurt Will. He didn't give two fucks.

As for the money? Will comes from a good, good family. Some of you may know I did trusts/estate planning for some of the richest families in the country. The nine figure families? The ones who went from seven figure net worth a to pushing a billion in the last 20 years?

They live like Will.

My favorite story to tell is of a little girl with $185,000,000 in trust waiting for her to turn 18 leaning over to her parents and asking them if she could have whatever she wanted and remarking at how expensive everything is...

....at Red Lobster.

$185,000,000. Let that sink in. Girl was set to take 3.5% per annum in distributions upon turning 18. $6.5 million a year, for life. Couldn't get over a $30 meal.

This woman gave up, literally, everything she'd ever wanted because she wanted the APPEARANCE of wealth. She wanted to show off.

This post staggers me.

[–]SACRlion 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

Now I want to read the original story.

Any help?

[–]Unexpected_Artist 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Don't have a link but I'll summarize.

Girl was dating an Alpha. Think Christian Grey, but kept how rich he was on the down low. He drove a middle class car, had middle class clothing, lived in a middle class two bedroom house he owned... Anyway, she expresses a certain lack of interest if memory serves. Questions his ambition or some such.

She causes drama, and he tells her where the door is.

She finds out he was the one who came up with the dough for HER grandpa's funeral. Finds out he's loaded. She feels she was entitled to that info, and is super bummed (cough, gold-digger)

Dude was a straight alpha. She will always pine for him, now even more so.

[–]Spiral-knight 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

She misses his money and the act that she was close enough to Taste it without ever knowing it was there for the taking causes her a near-physical pain.

[–]1Alphaspire 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

According to her posts, she was texting him and trying to get back with him before she found out about the money. It just hit a lot harder when she found out about it.

This is probably due in part to how she said he didn't emotionally respond when she broke up with him. He just calmly replied "fine by me" and slammed the door behind her after refusing a goodbye hug.

This was a nuclear shit test and an attempt to mold him into her BB. He passed the test with flying colors, earning her respect. Then he is found to be loaded, earning even more respect. Unfortunately for her, her ST went too far for him and he was done with her.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Read the comments here. It's hidden in there.

[–]MAX_Fury[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

its under my submitted posts

[–]SACRlion 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Found it, thanks.

I don't know what's better, her trying to text/establish FwB relationship with him after they broke up, or her trying to justify to his friends why she broke up with him.

I do love the fact that after her shit test blew up in her face, she's the victim. Classic.

[–]Lildoc_911 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the same girl that got upset with the man not disclosing his financial status to her?

[–]maxrp 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

SHE was the one who left him because he was not ambitious enough

does anyone have a link? I can catch up read?

[–]MAX_Fury[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

you can find it under my submitted posts

[–]jmg83 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I remember the original. I don't know whether this is real (it really is just too good.) but if it is, this woman has a ridiculous sense of entitlement. She doesn't even see that she's in the wrong. Hell, she finished it, and then expects him to cave first and call her? Was she hoping he'd be distraught by the break-up, a complete and utter wreck? If he was, and phoned her, begging to get back together, I bet she'd have said no, and acted like he was a loser.

If this Will had been upfront about his finances from the beginning, I bet that this bitch would have "accidentally" got pregnant. Women, are nothing if not practical. She herself says that she's "a 26 year old woman who needs to be pragmatic". That's milk straight from the cow's udders right there. We get to the meat of the post when she says that surely a man with a disposable income would be only too glad to treat his woman? That's what this is all about, material stuff. She wants to spend this guy's dead grandfather's money on a load of shit that he neither wants nor needs. This Will person sounds a lot like me, but with money. To me, money isn't simply something to buy fancy cars, clothes, etc. It's peace of mind. Knowing that I can go to a movie, or buy a few beers without having to worry about whether or not I'm good for the month's rent.

[–]JeanValjean197o 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Another happy ending.

This one is better than "It's a Wonderful Life".

[–]bluedrygrass 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

"I swear she was being all touchy-feely with him just to spite me. "

She probably didn't even know who she was, nor did she care. But always everything revolves about her and happens to her. Women's ego is a black hole

[–]TRPApprentice 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

I gotta admit, I love reading stories about women getting FUCKED. After seeing so many instances of the man getting screwed its good to know the women are also getting fucked every now and then. Keep crying those bitch tears, ladies! :)

[–]gggkin -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's weird but I feel an urge to fap after reading this.

[–]polyethene 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That is weird but interesting how you posted it anyway lol :p

[–]tedcase 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah, I remember the original post from way back. It warmed my cold dead heart and I have been resolved to be a Will myself in the future.

[–]Drenmar 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So this is how "changing history in her mind" works. Women are incredible.

[–]allnamesfckintaken 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

this story is the fucking funniest shit. she broke up with him because she thought he was a loser. absolutely nothing has changed about him genetically other than the fact that he's inherited millions. now she loves him so much.

[–]PantsonFire1234 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

My friends could tell that seeing him had affected me. They took me to a more private area of the house to talk it out; they reminded me to not get ahead of myself, he's still the same guy who lied to you.

This is female disgusting behavior at it's finest. Their feeding off the drama created by their female friend whilst simultaneously giving her advice that's against her best interest. They want her to be miserable so they can have a one up in the group. Classic bitch behaviour. And they do all this under the pretence of being "her friend". But make no mistake, each and everyone of them is plotting the destruction of the rest of the group.

Women ain't team players and will never know what it's like to genuinely care about anyone else in their whole lives.

[–]Austiny1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I started following the red pill after the initial story. I still can't believe how she rationalises everything into her favor.. Fucking dudes of tinder waiting for MR. Right, sadly that's the majority of girls I know..

[–]TankVet 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Important to notice how this story changed. Before she dumped him because he had no professional ambition. Now they broke up because of his dishonesty. Whoops, nice little adjustment to better fit the facts after the fact. I loathe people like this.

The first version of this story was pretty different than today's account. She's actually twisted her own version of the facts to better justify her actions. This is a great find.

[–]DerpPhilip 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I remember this. The way she re-manufactured a completely fictional version of what happened between them the first time, and evidently seems to genuinely believe it is borderline sociopathic.

[–]Endorsed ContributorNeoreactionSafe 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

A great example of:

Men desire Freedom, Women desire Access

...as long as the girl thought there was nothing to gain Access to she was lukewarm about this guy who maintained his Freedom and secrecy.

Once the secret is revealed she desires Access.

Women don't really love things they can have.

...but another lesson is that the guy was unable to establish masculine polarity over the woman without falling back on material things like his Bucks. That's not good. If the woman dumped him then that's doing him a favor.

In the long run a LTR demands masculine polarity without the Bucks.

Don't forget Divorce Rape and Child Support... all the Bucks in the world do no good with the laws being what they are these days.

Child Support Laws weren't even invented until 1950.

 

[–]Rodion-Raskolnikov 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Holy fuck that is some warp-speed hamstering. I've seen a similar scenario play out years ago when a former female friend ran into her ex-boyfriend (who had she dumped some years earlier for 'reasons' etc.) at a party accompanied by his hotter, younger and more talented new girlfriend. Much later, her sobs came from the darkest well of misery I've ever seen a woman drown in. Genuine howls of pain that lasted for hours. The 'pathetic beta chump' she had wantonly chucked was now a successful and handsome alpha. The only way her female friends could comfort her was to call the new girlfriend every spiteful name under the sun and make up slanderous stories about her. Oh, and the ex-boyfriend? That asshole "never appreciated what he once had". The guys in the room looked at each other and WE ALL KNEW...

[–]Spurnout -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

What a delusional and psychotic person.