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Liberals' Double Standard on Bathrooms, Boycotts, and Religious Freedom (dailysignal.com)

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[–]eddielacie [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

I think the argument is that now because its legal, it give perverts an excuse to be in the bathroom. How do you differentiate between someone whos in there justifiably, and someone wbo isn't?

[–]lossyvibrations [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

If you're engaging in perverted behavior, we already have laws against that. Peeping toms, harassing people, etc - these things are already illegal.

[–]JexInfiniteCruz Conservative [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

You don't need to do anything to be a pervert. Some people are going to take advantage of the transgender bathroom laws, as we have already seen.

[–]lossyvibrations [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Take advantage in what way?

If someone appears female, and uses a stall in the women's restroom, does that have any negative consequences?

[–]JexInfiniteCruz Conservative [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

It's not about appearance. It's about 'self-identification'. A dude claimed he identified as female and abused the law. That's a negative consequence.

There's just no way to enforce actual decency with the law in place because self-identification is not something leftists are able to argue against. It means that anyone can claim to be whatever they want and the law does jack shit against them.

[–]lossyvibrations [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm still not seeing any specifics of what would bother you. If someone goes in the "wrong" bathroom just to leer, that's already illegal. If they get arrested and claim they identify as a different gender, they're going to have to back that up a little.

No law is going to allow a dude to just throw on a wig, claim he's a woman, and go in the women's room. There's already enough real crime that happens with existing laws in restrooms, this solves a non-problem.

[–]eddielacie [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

Youre missing the point. If you're in the bathroom, dressed as a woman, who's to say what reason youre in there for?

[–]lossyvibrations [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Probably to use the bathroom? I don't know, I'm trying to figure out what perverted behavior you're worried about that isn't covered under current laws.

I've seen lots of trans men and women who look so much like the gender they identify with that it would actually make me a tad uncomfortable having them use the bathroom corresponding to their biological sex.

[–]eddielacie [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

What I am saying is that because now its perfectly legal to just wander into any womans bathroom with your dick waiving and just say im transitioning and no one can do a thing about it? Hell, if a woman tries to even suggest someone thats transitioning looked at her, she'll probably get demonized as a hateful person.

[–]lossyvibrations [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Actually, that wouldn't be legal. At least not anywhere I've lived in the US - I've literally never seen someone else's genitals in a bathroom. Except for urinals that don't have privacy dividers.

If someone were behaving that way they'd be guilty of harassment in either a men's or women's room, so it wouldn't matter.

[–]eddielacie [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

The dick waiving would be figuratively speaking, of course. The point being is that if it were made legal then by definition you could literally, be a man, dressed as a man that day and just stroll into the bathroom and take a shit, and no one could do a fuck about it. (as someone with irritable bowel syndrome whos often stuck waiting for that one shitter in every mens bathroom to be unoccupied this is an attractive idea to me).

What youre proposing is that in order to make 0.0001% of the population feel comfortable, we need to make 50% of the population, uncomfortable.

[–]lossyvibrations [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

First, no one's really proposing that. You've seen pictures of trans men and women, right? Are you comfortable with them going in the correct "biological sex" bathroom? Because trans women face high assault rates in men's rooms, and trans men would be intimidating to many women in the women's room.

If you went in the women's bathroom looking completely like a straight guy, and were a straight guy, what could anyone do about it now that they couldn't under these rules?

[–]eddielacie [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

First and foremost, there should never been a law passed to begin with against it.

Really, there shouldnt have been, and it should be overturned. Shouldnt be made legal though. To make it legal you're opening up a proverbial can of worms that can't be unopened.

Unless you included wording in the law stating that the person has to be dressed like the opposite gender , in that case youre going to offend fucking everyone, because who tf is to say what the opposite gender should be dressed like. Blah blah blah...

I liked the way it was before, if youre in the mens room, and youre standing at the unirnal, i either assumed you had a dick or didnt care, if you were in the toilet, and the door was closed i assumed you were a guy, and taking a shit, and if you were in the handicapped stall I just assumed you were a liberal male changing your tampon.

Its really isnt any of anyones business, tbqh, but just making it legal changea the entire dynamics of it