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[–]xeladragn 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 15時間前 (12子コメント)
So on a person to person basis how is this not a scam? If someone walked up to you and said "hey give me 6% of your income for the rest of your life and then when you are almost dead from old age I'll start giving it back in very small chunks. Oh, and if you die before then I'll just keep it." Would you do it? I get that it had societal benefits when the economy was not as strong but at this point it's just robbing people of the interest they could be making off of it being invested and only that little if they live long enough to collect all that they put in.
[–]listenthenspeak 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 15時間前 (9子コメント)
Because this isn't person to person and the analogy and comparison don't work. It's a social contract between society and the government we create that says we will pay into a system so that the elderly of this generation can retire and we can feel confident that the generation that hasn't been born for us will pay for us when we're old.
The government is not a household and making government budget comparisons to a middle class family and asking people "well if someone randomly asked you to give them 25% of your money would you do it?!?" simply don't hold and don't even make sense.
[+]xeladragn スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10ポイント-9ポイント-8ポイント 15時間前 (8子コメント)
Yeah instead of asking it's the government taking it directly out of your paycheck. When you get down to it now all it is is a giant pyramid scheme that you have to pay into so the govt can take free loans out of it when they want (like they have done previously). "Because the government is running it" is not a good reasoning for it not being a scam. Like I said I think at one point it was a good system and was necessary to help a lot of people. I don't think it's necessary anymore and is actually more of a drain then it is helpful for most Americans.
[–]listenthenspeak 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 14時間前 (6子コメント)
The tens of millions of Americans whose lives literally depend on transfer payments disagree with you.
[+]xeladragn スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 14時間前 (5子コメント)
If they had instead invested that 6% of their income (which they obviously could have since they made it to 65 without it if they are dependent on SS right now) they would have a significantly more money and A better QOL then getting their meager check from SS.
[–]White_N_Gold -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 13時間前 (3子コメント)
You're being downvoted for being correct. Le sigh.
[–]dunderball 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 11時間前 (1子コメント)
Not everyone can afford to contribute to an IRA.
[–]White_N_Gold -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
I understand that.
[–]xeladragn -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 13時間前 (0子コメント)
It's unfortunate but I expect it. The lack of Internet points is worth trying to bring some logic and reasoning to this topic.
[–]dunderball 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 11時間前 (0子コメント)
My dad worked his whole life and depends on this program.
[–]erichiro 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 15時間前 (1子コメント)
There are still a lot of people who rely on social security for most or all of their income.
[–]xeladragn 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 15時間前 (0子コメント)
Which is a problem and something we would need to find a solution for but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try and find a way to fix it.
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