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[Post Match-Day Thread] West Ham United vs Manchester United (self.reddevils)

BHButcherThe Ginger Prince が 投稿 - stickied post

This is the Post MATCHDAY thread, a seperate and completely different post to the regular post match thread. These posts are to generate a more level-headed discussion of the game, after everyone has had time to reflect on what happened

FT Score: West Ham United 1 - 2 Manchester United

Goals:

Rashford 0-1

Fellaini 0-2

(thanks /u/shihvvb)

Stats

Possession Shots On Target Corners Fouls
Man Utd 56% 10 4 7 17
West Ham 44% 20 9 5 7

(FOTMOB)

Man of the Match

David De Gea

Talking points

  • Manchester United have reached the FA Cup semi-final for the first time since 2011. Is this the time Wayne Rooney and Michael Carrick win their first FA Cup trophy?

  • Wayne Rooney makes his return from injury. What does this mean for Rashford (who has scored 6 times in 11 games)? What does it mean for how we set up here on out?

  • Did Fellaini prove doubters wrong?

  • Fosu Mensah with another stand out performance. How do we think he'll fare in the coming years?

  • Was this another example of United getting a result that saves van Gaal's job? Not good enough to be acceptable but not exactly bad enough to fire on the spot?

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[–]DJMattyM 15ポイント16ポイント  (12子コメント)

Rashford, DDG & TFM all looked exceptional once again!

[–]DasBeerHausRooney 5ポイント6ポイント  (11子コメント)

If Mourinho comes in, I really hope he's able to develop these guys. Obviously, if we're able to get a Griezmann type player, we go with him, but developing depth is how you continue to improve the squad.

[–]manudevil7Beckham -3ポイント-2ポイント  (9子コメント)

I would love Greizmann at United. He would take around £100 million, but he's definitely worth it. We should go for Jose Maria Gimenez.

Atletico have so many young, promising, potential world-class players.

[–]BertrandRusDave 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

They would never sell Gimenez like we would never sell TFM

[–]manudevil7Beckham -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Atletico have a lot of debt, so if we offered a lot of money, they would most definitely sell.

[–]arlitomaScholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Having debt doesn't mean they would sell if the debt is sutainable. Because if we were to go by that logic, United shouldn't be buying anyone due to their debt.

[–]manudevil7Beckham 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Atletico's debt is not sustainable. We are one of the biggest commercial sides in the world, Atletico are not. Furthermore, the PL has an enormous TV deal, while La Liga's TV money are vastly rationed towards Barca and RM.

[–]arlitomaScholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is there any proof of this lack of sustainability. Genuinely curious considering tehy've sold plenty of players recently and regularly get CL money.

[–]shihvvbSchneiderlin 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Saul would be nice.

[–]DasBeerHausRooney 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

We really need to hire their director of football.

[–]DJMattyM 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, him and mourinho would be a class act!

[–]Kiddcohen39Ander Herrera 26ポイント27ポイント  (2子コメント)

Think it's safe to say we still have much work to do in terms of closing games, something we've struggled with since SAF left really. On the brighter side, happy to see Rooney back, Fellaini looked bright, I actually though Lingard was decent enough, TFM is a brilliant prospect who I would love to see get some minutes at his preferred CB and DM roles, and Rashford continues to show some absolutely remarkable composure and it's just so easy to cheer for the guy. Thrilled with the result, winning at the Boleyn Ground has not been easy this year.

[–]Zxcvbnm123_ 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I dont think TFM's passing and position is good enough yet for the dm position. He looks very uncomposed on the ball

[–]IjustwanttotouchyouMemphis -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Smalling and TFM.....yes please

[–]Dave1711Januzaj 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

De gea is insane the only player near his level this year funnily enough is Keylor Navas imo!

Hate all the people saying United bailed out again.. Just because your keepers are shit, these type of saves are standard for Dave now yet they still baffle me all the time!

Loved seeing how pumped he was after the win too.

[–]knoxisbackMemphis 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mandanda has been unreal too

[–]KamahShaw 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

I really hope we don't go back to the Carrick-Schneiderlin midfield.

[–]BHButcherThe Ginger Prince[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree. I want to see Morgan start more games with Herrera. And I dont mind dropping Mata for Fellaini if we use him like we did yesterday. He was great and Mata has been inexcusably poor past few months. Can't remember his last good performance

[–]grad14uc 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Having players with pace on the wings again really helped us going forward. Valencia (or any other hard working winger) and TFM on the right would do wonders for that side of the pitch which has been an absolute mess for the past couple of years.

[–]Z1964 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Which non first team player would you like to see against villa?

[–]BHButcherThe Ginger Prince[S] 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

Memphis. Give Lingard a rest and see how Memphis fares

[–]Z1964 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rashford deserves some rest and should swap with Rooney.

[–]targeryian 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I though we looked much more lively when Martial wasn't isolated on the left hand side, he needs more freedom because when he runs at players he's so hard to stop.

Fosu Mensah did a good job filling in right back/left back but he's good enough for me to start in midfield especially with how fragile it's been recently.

Fellaini again - he does good every now and again - similar criticism could be made for Lingard. Good player to have in the squad and a good option to have in a physical game.

Fuck knows about LVG - guy's just does enough to get by.

[–]reddit_no_likeyHey... Hey... Sack the manager. 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shopping List Considerations For Coming Summer: "Need tall players."

[–]Z1964 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

Herrera or Mata at CAM?

[–]ScotsmaniaSmaldini 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I like Mata but... Hererra. He's more forward thinking.

[–]ThatStiffyAceJones | The English Battle Tank 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Herrera basically played the same game Mata does at AM, drop deep and let Lingard play more center.

Yesterday Lingard played more through balls to Rashford than I ever saw Mata and Herrera attempt.

[–]tomas753 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Might see Rooney back in the 10 once hes back to fitness

[–]-Michael_ScotchLove 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think that would be preferable than dropping Rashford and having Rooney play up front. I think for now Rashford has to keep playing even if Rooney is fit, he's taken the chances he's been given and even though he's had a bit of a dry patch it's only fair to keep playing him. Mata hasn't been particularly impressive for us at no 10 recently in my opinion and hopefully giving Rooney free range playing at 10 will see more productivity from the position.

[–]satanicvyperDi Maria 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd like to see Herrera given a run of games at 10, i thought he did well and that injury bluff before almost being sent off was genius

[–]spoofexKing Cantona 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Should be Martial with Rashford ahead against Villa. The tight control, ability to take on a man and then to thread a pass are insane.

[–]fakeplasticairbag 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Neither have done anything with their chances there. Give Rooney a go but most importantly buy someone in the summer