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[–]Shirck 0ポイント1ポイント  (16子コメント)

Could you elaborate?

[–]Randaethyr[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (15子コメント)

I criticized some terrible "sparring" videos that were posted on here and it escalated to Paul Davis, who posts on here as 5Masters, saying that his "master" would kill me (not hyperbole) in a challenge that he has seemingly issued on behalf of his "master".

I offered to get a public venue and he backed down like a basic bitch.

[–]BackSeatGremlin 1ポイント2ポイント  (14子コメント)

video links? I want to see some of this terrible sparring

[–]Randaethyr[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (13子コメント)

[–]BackSeatGremlin 3ポイント4ポイント  (12子コメント)

I mean, I don't know, it looks rather clean. I don't know alot about the art (what is it?) but I know even I have light and controlled sparring sessions, and they're usually similar in speed and accuracy.

What would you call a 'good' sparring session?

[–]Profkaoz 2ポイント3ポイント  (8子コメント)

Dude you train Muay Thai and think the punches and kicks they throw are ok? Now I'm worried about what Muay Thai gym you learned at where you feel these guys have good punches and shit. They never guard, theres no head movement, they stand heavy on the rear leg with chins up high. When they move around they cross their own legs. One lead leg kick and they're off balance to which you follow with a right hook. I mean c'mon man, in one of you're posts you said you had an amateur fight. Would you really be worried if one these people were your opponent?

[–]5mastersThần Võ Đạo 神武道 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

you are comparing our art to muay thai and it is nothing like it. You are basically saying that because we do not stand or move like you that we cannot fight. Its very ignorant perspective on martial arts.

Aside from this, as I have said before, this isn't even our real fighting form. Its like practice or play, like you would see in capoeira or Silat, like a game. Its controlled and light contact.

You think I get in a real fight and play these games you must be joking.

[–]Profkaoz 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm not saying to stand and move like Muay Thai. BJJ guys don't stand and move like me but their art is still effective, or even boxing, sanda. However, ALL these arts still throw punches using proper technique and body mechanics. If we look at you "play fighting" we can see that none of you use proper technique in any of your punches. If you watch tried and proven arts like the ones I mentioned, even in light sparring, they have tight punch technique. Regardless if its light sparring, heavy sparring, or whatever else, proper technique should always be show cased. When I train, sometimes we do only kick sparring. That does not mean I should have my hands sitting by sides since there are no punches.

This guy who started the post is going too far with asking your master to go to orlando though lol.

[–]Randaethyr[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This guy who started the post is going too far with asking your master to go to orlando though lol.

I didn't ask him to go anywhere. Paul Davis here stated his "master" would kill me, so I said next time they're here he's welcome to try.

[–]BackSeatGremlin 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

This isn't Muay Thai, quite obviously. I'm not comparing it to Muay Thai. I want to know about this art. I don't go to a German beer festival to drink Budweiser. Yeah, this goes against pretty much everything I know about fighting, and no, I wouldn't be worried all that much if I had to fight a practitioner of this art, at least from what I've seen. But that's irrelevant here, this subreddit is for sharing knowledge, not insulting people. (ref. OP, btw, not you, Profkaoz)

[–]Profkaoz 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

From the looks of it you don't know who these guys are. 7 mountains kung fu, they were banned from /r/kungfu for self advertisement on the daily and for insulting users. Literally, every post would be a link to their website. Then, when people went on the website and saw what the "master" teaches they started criticizing the art since, from what I remember, most of the historical shit posted was bullshit. That subreddit wasn't even being harsh at first but due to the insulting responses 5masters and tvdprach gave, everyone turned on 7 mountains kung fu. These guys are completely brain washed, they think their master can kill any fighter on the planet. So, when they got banned, they created this bullshit subreddit to try and save face by pretending like they care about other arts. All they still do is advertise.

If you actually want to learn about asian martial arts, you need to visit each specific subreddit. I totally understand where you're coming from but I really don't like these guys, and a shit load of people feel the same way. I would rather you support other subreddits rather than this one, but fuck it, I'm out.

[–]BackSeatGremlin 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

You know what, thats true, I didn't know who these guys were, and I'll probably go read into it. I'll still hold onto my thoughts about the attitude of the board, but I'll probably also hold more reservations about what I see on here now. Feels kinda bad knowing this sub is more or less of an advertisement (guess the sidebar makes sense now), but you're probably right about other boards. I've got MT and BJJ tagged already, but whats your art? I'd like a starting place.

[–]5mastersThần Võ Đạo 神武道 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

/u/backseatgremlin please make up your own mind about us. We're not bad ppl like he says but have constantly been in a state of defense since joining Reddit. Look at this post for ex. Look at our post history concerning the sub, If you have any questions please feel free to ask.

[–]ZhengShi36 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, it's just funny, because no one from Seven Mountains came on Reddit challenging anyone or looking for fights. We just started posting about our art and what we study. But somehow that in itself is offensive or threatening to people. Questions and thoughts about MA, coming from anyone from our school, almost always elicit shit-throwing (like the guy who started this post, although he is not the first) before any real discussion can get underway. (Also, it's been noted many times, but just so you all know, any master/school can post their picture/info in the sidebar just by contacting either one of the moderators. We really are interested in ALL Asian Martial Arts.)

[–]Randaethyr[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Do you really think any of that remotely looks like they know anything about footwork, range, timing, tempo, and actually how to strike?

I'm guessing you're another sock puppet for Paul Davis.

[–]BackSeatGremlin -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't know, I do Muay Thai and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. This is completely different. Their stances seem tight, they have pretty good range maintenance, they attack and parry and defend pretty well, they engage at a pretty nominal pace, and yeah, they do look like they know how to strike. They look like the know how to strike in the way I would imagine an art like this would teach them to. It doesn't look at all like how I strike, but that's because I train in a different art.

And no, I don't have a clue who Paul Davis is, nor do I really care at the moment.

I joined this subreddit to learn about different Asian Martial Arts. I came to learn their techniques and fundamentals, their culture, how they look, the history of such arts. I didn't come here to see some petty amateur lambaste an art he probably knows nothing about. Keep that shit to yourself man, nobody likes an aggro douchebag.

inb4 I know all about this art, or I could kick this guys ass. Great. prove it. show me your goddamn sherdog profile. I don't really care. I just want to know what you think good sparring looks like.

[–]Randaethyr[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I do Muay Thai

If you think those videos show signs of any ability then I have to question this.

I just want to know what you think good sparring looks like.

Not that, and if you actually train Muay Thai you would know that is just terrible.

[–]5mastersThần Võ Đạo 神武道 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (6子コメント)

You are no martial artist /u/randaethyr. Real martial artists do not talk shit on other schools like you, and they don't challenge masters to fight. Real Martial artists do not hide in the shadows attacking people anonymously, they show their face. I really have no idea who I am talking to right now. In our culture, its really some cowardly shit to challenge someone to a fight without showing your face.

As far as your challenge to our Sifu to fight.. we have stated the requirements.
1) Show your face.

2) Because you were the aggressor in this situation and presented the challenge to fight, you pay for our ticket to Orlando, including hotel and cash to travel. Its really not that large of an expense to host an accomplished kung fu master, especially after disrespecting him like you have.
OR Come to Philly.

3) Whether you come here or we come to you, as you agreed before, we decide the rules of the fight, where and when. Sorry there is no way out of this one for you, as you have already shown so much belligerence including attacking us on our schools Facebook page, childish name calling, and refusing to show your face. We do not negotiate.

[–]Randaethyr[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

2) Because you were the aggressor in this situation and presented the challenge to fight

Let's get something straight here homeslice, YOU issued a "challenge" because I criticized your terrible "sparring", which began by stating that your "master" would kill me.

Sorry there is no way out of this one for you

Just show up already you basic bitch. That's all it takes, just get your bitch ass here.

As far as agreeing to "the rules of the fight", I thought you guys didn't have any rules because you were some tough guy combat fighters?

Make up your mind please.

[–]5mastersThần Võ Đạo 神武道 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

You made the challenge to fight. not us. I really have no idea what you are talking about, you have been the belligerent aggressor since this started not me. Look at this post you just made and your comments. its such childish name calling nonsense.

Just show up already you basic bitch. That's all it takes, just get your bitch ass here.

I can say the same thing to you, its so ridiculous, except for we don't know where "here" is! You say orlando.. where in orlando? where is your school? Where do you train? Who are you?

As far as agreeing to "the rules of the fight", I thought you guys didn't have any rules because you were some tough guy combat fighters?

Again this really doesn't matter. Personally I would consider a fight with empty hand kyokushin type rules, but my teacher would not. I have not spoken to him about any details, but it would be his decision to make. The point is that you offered us to fight on our terms, which are undecided at this point because we still have not gotten past our first requirement, showing that you are even worth fighting.

[–]Randaethyr[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

I really have no idea what you are talking about, you have been the belligerent aggressor since this started not me.

So you're just going to ignore this?

Come on Paul, you can delete your comments on Facebook but you can't delete the screen caps I took.

where in orlando?

Near the University of Central Florida. Let me know it's going down and I'll get a venue.

where is your school? Where do you train?

I already told you who taught me how to fight and who I trained with, including a link to the IKF memorial page for one of the guys who taught me how to fight.

Who are you?

I posted with my real Facebook profile you dingus.

So are you going to show up Paul Davis, or am I wasting my time with your basic bitch shenanigans?

[–]5mastersThần Võ Đạo 神武道 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

So you're just going to ignore this?

you are ridiculous man. yes I said that, after you stupidly challenged my teacher to fight on the other thread. I am not going to argue with you about who offered to fight.

I already told you who taught me how to fight and who I trained with, including a link to the IKF memorial page for one of the guys who taught me how to fight.

I really don't care who taught you. I want to know where. I want to see your face, and if you were man enough you would post your sparring so people could see who is talking so much trash on a master. You would put out all of the info that we have online, and give an address. But thats never going to happen because you are a anonymous internet coward, really. Your Facebook profile doesn't even show your face.

Its ridiculous to think that any real martial artist would jump on a plane tomorrow just because an anonymous troll online says their form is shitty, then wait somewhere that they told them until they came. Do you really think I am that dumb?

So are you going to show up Paul Davis, or am I wasting my time with your basic bitch shenanigans?

At this point, if any fight is going to happen it is going to be my teacher's decision and his rules. We have already established this, and you have agreed to it.

This is my last comment until tomorrow or possibly later, I really don't care what shit you say, I won't be responding until I speak with my teacher.

[–]Randaethyr[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

So you're a basic bitch.

It's an easy yes or no.