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Why distrust NASA? (self.flatearth)

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[–]nbatman -3ポイント-2ポイント  (62子コメント)

I don't think the thousands of ground level employees like the scientists and engineers turning wrenches have any more of an idea about whats going on than an average person does. The few people in charge and the few who claim to have actually been to space are the liars.

But honestly to say having suspicion isn't plausible when it comes to a space agency that has been caught with bubbles, jellyfish and scuba gear in their "space footage" is just silly. Not to mention the 100's of other reasons to be skeptical of them...

[–]DerInselaffe 4ポイント5ポイント  (10子コメント)

I don't think the thousands of ground level employees like the scientists and engineers turning wrenches have any more of an idea about whats going on than an average person does.

Statements like that suggest you don't understand how large engineering projects work.

[–]nbatman -3ポイント-2ポイント  (9子コメント)

Statements like that suggest you don't understand how our power structure is set up.

[–]Shredder13 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

Science can neutralize this "power structure" (religion?) and helps us find easy truths (like the roundness of the earth) so that we can evolve and improve as a species.

[–]nbatman -1ポイント0ポイント  (7子コメント)

Science can also be taken advantage of to trick people into thinking they're spinning and unimportant when they're obviously not. That if anything is preventing us from improving as a species.

[–]Shredder13 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

What improvements would we be making if weren't being "tricked by science"?

[–]nbatman -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

A better question would be what improvements would be made if we weren't being tricked by space propaganda like NASA.

[–]Shredder13 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Such as?

[–]nbatman -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

We wouldn't think we're spinning, we wouldn't think we're useless pieces of tiny random space meat, we'd stop giving our tax dollars to a lying government organization, we'd become much more interested in our own world rather than the CGI and faked space walks NASA tells us are important now. There are so many good things that would come from people waking up.

[–]safewoodchipper 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

we wouldn't think we're useless pieces of tiny random space meat

So all this flat earth business is just because you're having a poorly managed existential crisis? I'm shocked lol.

[–]Shredder13 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

waking up

That kind of implies your beliefs are correct, no?

[–]Shredder13 5ポイント6ポイント  (12子コメント)

You actually fall for those "Astronauts in space are underwater videos?" Wow, natavism OurJesuitPaymasters nbatman, you might be the most gullible user on this sub!

[–]nbatman 0ポイント1ポイント  (11子コメント)

Laugh all you want shredder. People will continue to be truly skeptical about NASA's lies regardless of how brainwashed you are. The more excuses you make for things like bubbles floating around the more I realize how good space propaganda truly is. Scary that CGI and some people floating around is all it takes to convince people of an entire reality.

[–]Tbizboss 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I take it you've never visited an ocean beach. Do so and watch the ships disappear over the horizon hull first. Binoculars do not bring the ship back into view. It's literally that easy to prove the earth isn't flat.

[–]nbatman 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for the silly excuses they just prove my point that you guys have been indoctrinated to do so. Also calling us tinfoil hat wearers just shows that all anyone can really do to prove that the earth is spinning is call us stupid and point towards a lying space agency, so like I've told others, fun spinning in your head. I'll stay in reality where bubbles are still bubbles even if NASA say they are not.

[–]Shredder13 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

Yeah...all those bubbles...in space...that totally exist...

[–]nbatman -1ポイント0ポイント  (7子コメント)

So this isn't for Shredder as his mind has been so warped by propaganda that bubbles are no longer bubbles if NASA says so, this is for anyone who hasn't had their mind launched into space yet by their government.

Bubbles example 1

Bubbles example 2

Scuba Tank in space example

[–]DogPoop_Longitude 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Your 2nd example only shows Text > pointing out nasa bubble footage, i dont see shit accompanying it. Then it cuts to the Chinese footage from example 1.

Tip: If you, makers of tinfoil fedora videos, want to provide evidence of undoctored proof in your footage, don't layer text over top and thus prove how easy it is to manipulate a digital video frame.

[–]nbatman -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for the silly excuses they just prove my point that you guys have been indoctrinated to do so. Also calling us tinfoil wearers just shows that all anyone can really do to prove that the earth is spinning is call us stupid and point towards a lying space agency, so like I've told others, have fun spinning in your head man. I'll stay in reality where bubbles are still bubbles even if NASA says they are not.

[–]Shredder13 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

You must be trolling, because those don't look like bubbles at all. They move perfectly straight (unlike bubbles) and look asymmetrical (unlike bubbles).

[–]nbatman 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

The silly excuses just prove and prove my point. Keep em coming.

[–]Shredder13 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

How does debunking your talking points prove them?

[–]nbatman -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Making silly excuses for a lying space agency proves that you are indoctrinated by them, by doing so you are demonstrating my point.

[–]DerInselaffe 2ポイント3ポイント  (28子コメント)

Do link to the footage with jellyfish swimming past though. I'm intrigued.

[–]nbatman 1ポイント2ポイント  (27子コメント)

skip to 50 seconds

[–]DerInselaffe 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh man! Why do I watch these things?

As for why you'd need to fake a balloon underwater, the mind boggles.

[–]nbatman 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They wanted it to look like space and the darkness of the water resembled that well, I suppose. Anyways it boggles my mind that someone can see something like this and still not be skeptical, but we live in a world where North Koreans think their great leader doesn't have bowel movements so I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised when people are so infinitely tricked by the propaganda surrounding them.

[–]Shredder13 2ポイント3ポイント  (24子コメント)

You realize that video debunks the "jellyfish hypothesis", right?

[–]nbatman -2ポイント-1ポイント  (23子コメント)

Yes but that just proves my point that people are willing to make excuses for NASA to a degree that is truly terrifying. If people can honestly look at a jelly fish swim by and still make excuses for them then I'm not sure its even worth trying to help people out of the propaganda world they inhabit. They seem to enjoy thinking star trek is real so I suppose I should just let them.

[–]Shredder13 1ポイント2ポイント  (22子コメント)

Well, it doesn't look like a jellyfish and it's got an explanation, so maybe using your imagination is not the best way to prove something ;)

[–]nbatman -1ポイント0ポイント  (21子コメント)

Using my eyes and mind are good ways to determine if I should believe that a jellyfish is a jellyfish but that's only because I don't let a space agency determine whether bubbles are bubbles or jellyfish are jellyfish or if something that isn't spinning is or isn't spinning. Anyone who denies a jellyfish being a jellyfish is living proof that space propaganda is very efficient at indoctrinating people which is again, truly terrifying.

[–]Shredder13 1ポイント2ポイント  (20子コメント)

You have yet to prove its a jellyfish, so why are you confused when someone criticizes your ideology?

[–]nbatman -1ポイント0ポイント  (19子コメント)

Jellyfish are jellyfish, sorry Shredder I know its a really hard concept. Only to a fully indoctrinated person would something like a jellyfish look like anything other than a jellyfish. I realize you won't grasp this point but again these comments are for people out there who haven't been indoctrinated so they can see that there are others out there like them who aren't spinning in their heads.

[–]Shredder13 1ポイント2ポイント  (18子コメント)

Was the jellyfish at some other point in the video? All I saw was what was described in the video description. It certainly didn't look or move like a jellyfish, so you must be referring to some other moment. Where? And I know you're not dumb enough to think that a cloud that looks like a rabbit isn't a rabbit. So why are you letting your imagination run wild on this?

[–]delorean225 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not to mention the 100's of other reasons to be skeptical of them...

Can we see a few?

[–]RationalTranscendent[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hundreds of reasons? That's what I'm after. What are they?

By the way, scientists and engineers generally don't turn wrenches. Technicians do. But anyway, you're claiming that in NASA's hierarchy, a few at the top are able to fake all the data that keeps the many scientists and engineers below them in the dark for their whole careers? That these few fake every data set returned by every probe, and that fakery has never been noticed by anyone using that data in a scientific study, even ones that hadn't been conceived when the data was collected?

[–]LordCheeses 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Right. And all the airline pilots, and ship captains, and meteorologists, and TV networks employees are all in on it too.

[–]nbatman -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Again, normal people are not in on this, they are given the same false presumptions about our world we are and they run with the false presumptions the same way we do. Most pilots probably do notice that they never have to aim the nose of their plane downward to account for the "curve" but most wont ever connect the dots because we've all been brainwashed very very very badly by the globe our entire lives.

[–]LordCheeses 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's fascinating to me that people like you actually exist.

[–]nbatman 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's fascinating to me that everyone around me thinks they are spinning when they are not. All I can say is the flat earth movement is growing extremely rapidly for a reason and that is because we're not spinning or on a ball and thanks to technology we can prove this beyond a shadow of a doubt to anyone who hasn't been indoctrinated by space propaganda. So just get ready to start meeting a lot more open minded people who haven't had their minds shot into space by their government.

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