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[Post Match Thread] Tottenham vs Manchester Utd (self.reddevils)

DatGuyRichMartial 13/12. DAMN SON が 投稿 - stickied post

FT: Tottenham 3 - 0 Manchester United

(Alli, Alderweireld, Lamela)

BBC Report

  • Next Game: Wednesday away to West Ham in the FA Cup.

  • Next Premier League Game: Saturday at home to Aston Villa.

Thoughts???

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[–]DatGuyRichMartial 13/12. DAMN SON[S] 208ポイント209ポイント  (47子コメント)

LVG has always been known for his weird subs and position changes but what the fuck was today?

Take off Rashford and replace him with Ashley Young who has just come back from a very long term injury and has only played up top ONCE in the U21s. Meanwhile Anthony Martial a striker is stood on the left side which is ironically the position that Young made his name in!!!!

Not only this but he continued with Mata in the right position for 70 MINUTES. Despite him not doing a single thing positive in that position!! And who has also played that position this season.. Ashley Young...

I'm so confused, If a game summed up our season it would be this one!! 81 Days till Mourinho guys.. 81 days...

[–]liableAccountGiggs/Januzaj 49ポイント50ポイント  (6子コメント)

Sometimes I think he just does this so he can be revered as a mastermind if it goes right

[–]TWPDSneijder 35ポイント36ポイント  (1子コメント)

It must just be an ongoing joke at this point.

He'll probably write up a 4chan greentext at the end of the season laughing at how he managed to get away with so much crazy shit without getting sacked

be me

be LVG

Surely I'll get found out soon, how am I still even allowed in this chair?

My notes are crossword puzzles ffs

Okay, need a win for Top 4

Putting too many people to sleep, need a sub

Young at striker, keep Tony on the wing. Wouldn't want to frighten my man Hugo

TFM is too horny, needs a replacement

LadsItsDarmian.jpeg

Down 3-0

"You can judge me after 3 more years"

[–]MyWholeTeamsDead 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is perfect. I can't think of anything else that goes on in that dinosaur's head.

[–]Creamy_Goodne55 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ive always thought that about the Keeper change in the world cup

[–]LDN2016 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

We keep letting our players get away with murder.

Swapping the striker with a no.10/winger is NOT why we conceded 3 goals.

The gameplan was keeping Spurs pretty fucking quiet. The bumbling defending on that 1st goal was an individual mistake, not a tactical one.

The mentally crumbling after going 1-0 down was not a tactical mistake.

Fuck these players. I can deal with them being technically shit but I can't stand them being this mentally weak.

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    [–]Winzip115 73ポイント74ポイント  (3子コメント)

    So mind the Ajax flair but United is my team away from home. I've been one of the biggest supporters of van Gaal throughout the whole of this season. One of the last fans still supporting him at this point. But today was just fucking insane and I am at a point where I don't give a flying fuck if he loses the job. You want to bring Ashley Young on at half? Good call! But don't fucking play him as a fucking striker. He has 0 ability to hold up the ball, is far slower and worse in the air than Rashford who he replaced. Take a chance to win the game and take off Jesse "always plays it safe" Lingard. The guy isn't bad, but he sure as fuck isn't good either. He isn't going to win you a game. Take a chance when you go one down and put Memphis on. Yeah, he's been inconsistent, but he does have the ability to make something happen on his own. Michael fucking Carrick. Look, I get he is important to the club, brings experience and what not, but he is so far over the hill. He doesn't even pass the ball well anymore and he is slower than my fucking grandmother who has been dead for over 5 years. LvG finally makes some positive changes after the game is long gone and United are 3 goals down. United needed to win. Make those fucking changes when it is tied at nil. Take a risk. If we gave up 3 playing an unbalanced, attacking game, then so be it. But this was fucking pathetic. I know it's late on but today was the straw that broke this camel's back.

    [–]BertrandRusDave 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Take a chance to win the game and take off Jesse "always plays it safe" Lingard. The guy isn't bad, but he sure as fuck isn't good either. He isn't going to win you a game

    Spot on, couldn't have said it better myself. People act as if we don't need to buy a number 10 because we have players like Lingard, Herrera and Mata (and some even include Peirera). Couldn't be more wrong. We need a De Bruyne, an Erikson, someone to fucking transfer the ball from midfield to attack without passing it sideways, backwards, or straight up losing the ball. Average team, average players (excluding Martial and De Gea), average performances. Oh, and a shit manager

    [–]JamesakaNoah 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I was on your side as well for a long time. I admire him so much for his achievements with the Dutch, he was able to make players better than they were. That makes a big difference between good and awesome managers. Sadly, at this point he is making players play worse. It hurts me to see Memphis play and believe he is actually one of the people hurt most by LvG.

    [–]bentekefriedchickenScholes 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Should've stayed on the bus tbh

    [–]TimmyBashSchweinsteiger 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    How come Journos don't ask and address these questions? I want him to literally tell us what the fuck he is thinking because no-one, team included, knows either.

    [–]TheLannister_ 9ポイント10ポイント  (6子コメント)

    The saddest thing is Ed may stick with Van Gaal next season. Van Gaal is the biggest culprit, but Ed Woodward is part of the guilty company too.

    In the 'real world', Ed Woodward would have been sacked by now. The stock plunges, the performance of the team goes down the toilet. The fact that he did not sack this clown yet, is an indication of a weak -VERY WEAK- C.E.O.

    [–]tamasuperstarDe Gea 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Yeah but lets not pretend that Ed Woodward isn't incredible at the other side of his job, the business side. Because that's the reason he's still here, whether you agree with that or not (I don't).

    [–]bigumbrella 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Then we need a director of football. Because Ed Woodward the business genius soon won't be able to keep making money off this terrible team that Ed Woodward the football man is incapable of fixing.

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      [–]BBQ_HaX0rRooney 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      At least the weather seemed nice?

      [–]ibaRRaVzLaJosé Mourinho 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Exactly my thoughts. What the fuck was Young doing as a striker while Martial was playing on the left? Mata was absolute shit as well. Van Gaal is fucking clueless.

      [–]LDN2016 27ポイント28ポイント  (12子コメント)

      Mata was pathetic on attack. Young's sub was crazy but may have even worked if someone was threading through balls.

      Meanwhile right now Kagawa is running the show in the derby, asbolutely dominating vs Schalke and just scored this goal: https://streamable.com/9yz7

      Kagawa is now on 16 goals + assists from 21 starts (4 subs) this season.

      [–]n3o7 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

      one of the players I'm still hurting that we let go

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        [–]Saf94 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

        For all LVG's faults I don't really think this loss was his fault. I highly doubt if Rashford had stayed on we'd have scored when we were creating nothing (bar that Martial run) or we wouldn't have crumbled after the goal. The truth is there's fundamental problems with this squad, no creativity and no world class players/matchwinners and no leaders at the back

        [–]TheLannister_ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        If Leicester doesn't teach you anything than nothing will ever will. They certainly do not have a world class player. We have a few of creative players, it's how you deploy and use them.

        The fundamental problem is the manager, his so called philosophies and his inability to respond to his opponent's tactic.

        He should and could have brought in Herrera, patch the midfield because we were outrun by the end of the first half as they started to exploit our right area. Fosu Mensah was directed to bombard just like he did at Everton with Mata staying back to cover <-- if this tactic doesn not sound wrong, I don't know what is.

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          [–]theangrycamelGiggs 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I'm pretty sure this is some sort of fetish for LVG.

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            [–]NGU-BenSchweinsteiger 85ポイント86ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Bet Van Gaal is fucking shit at jigsaw puzzles.

            [–]ClwNzaMartial 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            But probably quite an acclaimed abstract art artist. The kind no one understands but pretends to think is an excellent comment on societies unjust treatment of Wingers. They're strikers too. Apparently

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              [–]punerisaiyanJai Mata Depay!! 141ポイント142ポイント  (17子コメント)

              68th minute: Mensah subbed off. 70th minute: Tottenham 1-0 73rd minute: Tottenham 2-0 76th minute: Tottenham 3-0

              Coincidence? I think not.

              [–]harps86Carrick 71ポイント72ポイント  (4子コメント)

              Darmian was as bad as his facial hair.

              [–]simmejanneMemphis 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Shots fired! In fact more shots fired than we today.

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                [–]BrownByYouHerrera is love. Herrera is life. 33ポイント34ポイント  (5子コメント)

                An 18 year old held us together out there today, shocking.

                [–]antantoonAlpaca Gea 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Is it really? We've had teenagers holding our season together all year.

                [–]jjkennethRooney 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                I mean, an injury to a 20 year old literally destroyed our title run. At this point, it's all we have going for us, we have some good youngsters.

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                  [–]chutzpahisawordValencia 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  All 3 goals came from the right side too. Not a coincidence at all.

                  [–]MuppetxLVG 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  2 of their goals came from crosses on the their left side (not counting the free-kick). Fosu-Mensah was blocking Rose and Eriksen's crosses all day.

                  [–]mykalbMata 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  Darmian was useless. He watched errikson walk past. He fouled for the second and then lost Rose for the third.

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                    [–]lawanhawizy 59ポイント60ポイント  (3子コメント)

                    LVG: "Hey Young. You're a midfielder who has been a make shift defender during my entire tenure. You've been out for a few months with groin surgery. Let me sub you on for one of our only bright sparks this season after a competitive first half. Oh and before you get on. You're going to play up front on your own against two of the best central defenders in the league."

                    [–]jjkennethRooney 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    I'm generally ok with his experiment nature, even though I'm very much pro-Mourinho, but fucking hell, what in the ever loving fuck was that? Not to mention Lingard and Mata playing in swapped roles made worse by the fact Mata was clearly instructed to play back and cover for/with TFM, something he isn't known for and that Lingard is actually quite capable of. The front four today was fucking retarded.

                    [–]lawanhawizy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Striker at left wing.

                    Right winger in the number 10.

                    Number 10 at right wing.

                    Right winger up front.

                    Magic.

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                      [–]youreviltwinbrotherNobody fucks with The Peaky Woodwards 59ポイント60ポイント  (5子コメント)

                      TFM was excellent, even if his task did mean Mata had no threat in attack.

                      Young, a left wing specialist, upfront when we have an excellent striker on the left sums up LVG's substitutions.

                      The fact we fell apart so easily is the worst though, no fight from anyone, and LVG persists sitting down on the bench believing that the players know the plan for every situation. That is not modern management and it's not what this club is about. This club fights all the way to the end. For Van Gaal, it is the end.

                      [–]Tinkyxwinky 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                      his task did mean Mata had no threat in attack.

                      When does Mata ever have threat in attack? 1 game a month at most? Mata can't hide behind that forever

                      [–]Zidane-TribalMemphis 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Lingard over Herrera and Mata at number 10 for 3 games now, what the hell, even Young gets to play there over Herrera or even Pereira...TFM was the shit today though.

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                          [–]Darth_hader 25ポイント26ポイント  (3子コメント)

                          We lost but I am happy for LvG. He is getting closer to his dream of fielding 10 outfield players out of position.

                          The Philoshophy shall truimph.

                          [–]Yo-effing-loCarrick 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Next game he could just put De Gea as centre forward and have his dream fulfilled

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                            [–]totalgiraffeMata 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            Couldn't even beat the traffic today...

                            [–]Wolpfack 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            I think LVG instructed the driver to back-pass half a dozen times on the way from the hotel.

                            [–]rinilkvMata 40ポイント41ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Masterstroke Substitution from LVG to take Rashford off for young when we need a winger and then play him as a Striker!

                            [–]punerisaiyanJai Mata Depay!! 78ポイント79ポイント  (7子コメント)

                            We actually waste 90 minutes of our lives weekly.

                            [–]StathamIsYourSaviorRafael 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            The irony is in how much I look forward to it

                            [–]aman27deepvG 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            I don't anymore. It's a chore I have to do, like dropping my niece at school.

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                              [–]K6363 49ポイント50ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              Fuck off LVG, JUST FUCK OFF.

                              [–]PenPaperShotgun 14ポイント15ポイント  (5子コメント)

                              Martial who is our best striker is playing on the left wing.

                              Mata our natural no.10 once again is playing on the right wing.

                              Lingard (Cristiano Lingard) supposedly a right wing is playing number 10.

                              And Ashley Young who can play RW/LW is now our striker.

                              [–]NestledrinkHerrera 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

                              People say Ranieri is the tinkerer... LVG is basically just a senile puzzle enthusiast who's putting the corner piece in the middle.

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                                [–]92GrapesJanet Jazz Jazz Jam 103ポイント104ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                Fosu Mensa didn't die for this...

                                [–]jared2294 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                He played so fucking well today

                                [–]Oolongtea33 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                I know, and how funny that shit hit the fan soon after he departed. He was tremendous for us today. Shame it was for nothing.

                                [–]thisisastupidnameDarmian 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                Fuck fullback positions honestly. Everyone who plays there gets injured

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                                  [–]merlin318[🍰] 32ポイント33ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  68' Mensah Off

                                  70' 1-0

                                  74' 2-0

                                  76' 3-0

                                  Timothy Fosu Immensah

                                  [–]manutd19De Gea 37ポイント38ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  WE'RE FUCKING SHIT!

                                  [–]MemphisMartialMemphis 29ポイント30ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  Disagree, the traffic had some decent hold up play.

                                  [–]forgetthecrowd 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  What the fuck was he thinking putting Young up front??

                                  [–]BBQ_HaX0rRooney 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  Trying to get him match fit... it's not like we're trying to win games or anything.

                                  [–]BrownByYouHerrera is love. Herrera is life. 59ポイント60ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  Lads, it's United.

                                  [–]obadetonaHerrera na na naaaa 25ポイント26ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  Get this fraud out of our fucking club, can't believe I used to feel sorry for him!

                                  [–]NikitaScherbak 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  He's destroying the club... like an eleven years old playing FIFA career mode really

                                  [–]Grevling89Herrera 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Except in FIFA career mode we'd actually win

                                  [–]rossco9Herrera 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  Take nothing away from Spurs - they've been by far the better side both today and this season. And I'd argue that they are stronger at every position.

                                  That said, it's embarrassing for us to be so reliant on an 18 year-old academy product with 1 previous PL start to his name. He goes off and 8 minutes later we've conceded 3 goals, all from the flank he was on. I love that this club promotes youth and gives fair chances to youth players, but to be so consistently reliant on players like Rashford, Martial, Lingard, and today, Fosu-Mensah, just shows how much wrong LVG has got in his tenure. We should not capitulate when a virtually untested 18 year-old goes off injured.

                                  [–]jetsfan83 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  Woodward better be busy making a contract to give to Mendes

                                  [–]ohyou123 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  Daley Blind laughing with the Spurs players....muppet...I suppose it's a great laugh when you're on the money he is and you don't need to give a shit.

                                  [–]cookie1254Rafael 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  The same old shite yet again. Utterly, utterly pathetic. We had a chance of getting within one point of City but you'd think we were in mid table with nothing to play for after that complete joke of a performance. We created one chance the entire game and that was completely down to Martial's individual brilliance. Defensively we were abysmal.

                                  I'm so fucking sick of LVG's fetish of playing players out of position. Ashley Young up front when you have Martial in the team is a laughable decision. As is playing Mata out wide when you have Lingard in the team. It's basically trying to fit square pegs into round holes when you have round pegs right next to you. I doubt it would have made a difference in the result today but there's just no logic to it.

                                  Fosu-mensah was the one positive of the game. He showed more in that game than Darmian has all season as far as I'm concerned. The positivity that all the players coming from the youth system have makes me wonder why the whole team can't play like that.

                                  It's a fucking embarrasment that the best case scenario for this season now is 4th with no trophies and even that's looking very unlikely now. Pochettino will be telling his players 'Lads it's United' next season if we something major doesn't change in this football club.

                                  [–]whydoyouonlylie 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  The positivity that all the players coming from the youth system have makes me wonder why the whole team can't play like that.

                                  My theory on this is that they haven't been corrupted by Van Gaal's philosophy when they break into the team so they play a completely different style of football than what he has ingrained into the senior players. When did Martial/Rashford play their best football for United? In their first 3 or 4 games when they were only being introduced to training with the senior team. After Van Gaal took them under his wing their performances dropped.

                                  Don't get me wrong, they're still good players but they are nowhere near the level they were when they broke into the first team. And I believe that's all down to Van Gaal's training and tactics destroying talented players.

                                  [–]Pedantic_PatFan Favourite David De Gea 20ポイント21ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                  Just watch him blame the traffic.

                                  Bringing on Young instead of Memphis was just laughable. Ashley Young up front? Fuck off. We're giving Memphis all the opportunities to fuck up his talent.

                                  At this stage, the Jose announcement can't come soon enough. If we're waiting for top 4 to be impossible like with Moyes to save some money, think about every player we're going to try to sign this summer and what they're thinking. A proper plan needs to be laid out.

                                  1 shot on target

                                  [–]BBQ_HaX0rRooney 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  I'm getting annoyed at how our goal seems to be to pass it to someone standing at the top of the penalty area who is covered by 3 people. Martial is the only one who seems like he wants to beat someone. Everyone just passes it around doing fuck all and then loses it passing it to the top of the box to the man covered by half the squad. It's baffling.

                                  [–]Pedantic_PatFan Favourite David De Gea 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  There was a counter, 3v2 on the left wing around 55.30 The pass to Martial was to his feet. Not ahead of him, to his feet. Says everything

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                                    [–]Konflikt_ 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Can we be done with this fuckwit now? Should have been gone in December.

                                    [–]HairyArthurManchester United 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Embarrassing result. We conceded the first goal and then folded like a cheap suit.

                                    Frankly, that was exactly the type of result I would expect of a team challenging for the championship against a team in 5th.

                                    [–]omegaxLoLAnder Herrera 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Young on as a striker for an entire half.

                                    That's going to be my favorite memory during LVG's time here. Don't get me wrong, it was an absolutely shit substitution, but for comedic effect it's absolutely hilarious.

                                    [–]jnwallacMata 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                    Is there some sort of reward for having watched that all?

                                    [–]BadApplePineappleLVG IN....TO THE BIN! 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    39 league goals in 32 league games and +9 GD in April. WTF! Fuck off Louis Van Gaal and fuck your philosophy!

                                    [–]ohyou123 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    How sad is it to think we won't even be in the Champions League next season....

                                    We're literally turning into Liverpool.

                                    [–]theangrycamelGiggs 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    http://i.imgur.com/sm5wVnH.jpg

                                    [–]forgetthecrowd 26ポイント27ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Fosu-Mensah didn't die for this

                                    [–]Jhix 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    I wish we could play football like spurs. Is something I thought I'd never hear myself say.

                                    [–]poorly_timed_boromirScholesy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    https://www.facebook.com/www.JOE.co.uk/videos/656175517879851/

                                    [–]imsowitty21 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    Hey guys..want to feel slightly better? Just think about Luke Shaw and TFM on the field together next season.

                                    [–]im_alive 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Wish I would have stayed in bed with my hangover.

                                    [–]tushiexpSchweinsteiger 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    So let me get this straight.

                                    Lingard at no. 10. Mata on the right. Half time comes and Rashford is subbed off for young who plays up front as striker. TFM picks up a knock (I hope he is okay...) and we collapse in a time span of 5 minutes. This has been a Sunday to forget.

                                    [–]fallengtLVG 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    It's not gonna happen, lads :(

                                    www.facebook.com/video.php?v=656175517879851

                                    [–]Oolongtea33 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Surely Memphis or Martial are better options than ASHLEY YOUNG up top eh Louis? Thought the game was up for grabs until the 70th minute, but then we straight up imploded. A day to forget for sure, but I still believe top four is well within reach. Hope TFM injury isn't serious as he was easily our best player today.

                                    [–]j4ckh3artGiggs 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Dogshit. Again

                                    [–]DEN0303Valencia 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    At this rate expect a nervy 0-0 against the league's shittiest team next week.

                                    [–]RedderHerringCarrick 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Why is Louis van Gaal like the Manchester United team bus?

                                    They're both coaches that are going nowhere.

                                    [–]GodModeONERooney 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    3-0 vs Tottenham. What a fucking ridiculous game. Fosu-Mensah was our best player.

                                    [–]veryredindian 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Philosophy? Foolosophi!

                                    [–]n3o7 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    http://i.imgur.com/mpKZg.png

                                    [–]RyanSorsbyMartial 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    Wish this season would just end already.

                                    [–]doesnt_like_pantsHerrera 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    The subs were weird.

                                    Darmian was very poor.

                                    Passing was all over the show.

                                    No penetration up top.

                                    TFM was the only good thing going and he looks to have sustained an injury.

                                    Can't wait for the nightmare to be over.

                                    [–]thabooshkaManchester United 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Absolute shocking display. We were in a good position at half time and then for the life of me I cannot figure out the substitutions LVG makes. Ashley Young substitution was fucking awful. Not bringing on Herrera was also a mistake for sure, Mata was useless. Then after the goal furry he brings on Memphis for an absolutely useless 15 minutes. The poor lad had to watch Ashely Young be subbed on before him after Young hasn't played in a long time. In my opinion this was our worst display of the season. Other than a couple great runs by our youngsters we had nothing going forward and could not keep up any sort of sustained pressure. I know he won't be sacked after this game, by fuck me if this doesn't further solidify his departure this summer.

                                    [–]suehaScholes 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    But... but... Blind is such an intelligent player - he doesn't need to stick to his opponent!!!

                                    [–]flyingkiwi9Solskjær 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                    Sidenote: Rojo is rubbish

                                    [–]ValenciasLeftFootValencia 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    He was pretty decent earlier on and last season. I wonder how much of his (and everyone's) play is them being shit and how much it's LVG's style sucking the life out of the squad.

                                    [–]Djjihad 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Player for player this team is not better than Spurs, we got that confirmed today.

                                    [–]LukeTheFisher 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                    I've been advocating for Van Gaal every time he was criticised. He really looked to have a long term plan that just needed time working out. He just proved that untrue. He's a completely clueless idiot. It's time for me to join the rest of you and say: Van Gaal out.

                                    [–]FeezbullGiggs 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Watch some still staunchly say it's not the final form yet. Things take time. It's working slowly. We need better players. Etc. If you're here enough you'll know who they are.

                                    [–]opacino 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Well I'm glad you've seen the light, but this is coming a little too late to matter really. I do appreciate the fact that you changed your mind about LVG.

                                    [–]imamfmonster 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    I'm honestly hurt.

                                    [–]MaracaiboRedDevilFellaini 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Darmian was useless

                                    [–]d3m0li5h3r 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    We deserved this humiliation today.

                                    [–]ahsanemo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Fuck. Me. In. My. AAAASSSHHOOOOLLLE

                                    [–]czervick212Herrera 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Happy to see Memphis show some passion. Timothy was phenomenal.

                                    [–]PigeonNipples 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Fuck off Louis

                                    [–]j0n82Van Persie 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Will the cunt ever resign? Fuck this shit

                                    [–]tallmotherfuckerShaw 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Spurs are at another level than us

                                    TFM is the real deal, he saved us multiple times and his impact was obvious by his absence

                                    LVG putting young at st.........

                                    Memphis is obviously very frustrated. He should have come on earlier instead of young

                                    Mourinho surely beckons now

                                    [–]theduckofreasoningRooney 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Welp can't go to r/soccer for a bit

                                    [–]shitty_potato 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Fuck off LVG you fucking dumb cunt, you shouldve been gone 3 months ago.

                                    [–]bnr-88 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Young. For Rashford. As a striker.

                                    Fuck you LVG. Just fuck you, you fucking prick.

                                    [–]fellowe5Mata 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    The Spurs fans summed it up pretty nicely... We are fucking shit.

                                    [–]gidmcscruff 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Rojo is a fucking waste of space

                                    [–]gaffer-93 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Young... up front... what a joke. How is this tool still our manager? It's very rare that a loss can be attributed solely to managerial decisions but today it was all LVGs fault. This happens far too often.

                                    [–]Mr_WilsonnHerrera 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Embarrassing nothing more.

                                    Fosu-Mensah was brilliant before his injury & Young at striker? No words.

                                    [–]Count__Duckula 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    I literally did a double take when I saw he subbed rashford for young. Whos been out with a long term injury. Oh and ISNT A STRIKER

                                    [–]itsandercontrolBerbatov 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Guys, what's wrong with wanting Mourinho over CL football? Seriously, I want my club to be prepared for the future over one season of CL football. We can attract players with Mourinho too.

                                    [–]ViromenEric Cantona 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Law of Murphy.

                                    [–]ohyou123 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    There was literally zero fightback.

                                    Disgraceful. None of those players understand what it means to wear the shirt. I'd reckon Scholes and Keane shed a tear watching that shit.

                                    [–]RAKtheUndead 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Execrable attack and questionable defence that all fell apart when TFM, who was obviously the lynchpin, went off. Unfortunately, with play like that, we deserve to lose.

                                    [–]Wolpfack 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    I just hope whatever knock TFM got in this game is healed by Wednesday.

                                    [–]Wthelicopt 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    4 matches left in the season, our goal difference is +9.

                                    [–]TsconGiggs 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    We went from two champions league finals in three years to not qualifying for the second time in three years, absolutely unthinkable

                                    [–]benhanks040888Paul Scholes 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    I guess the bus was still stuck in traffic

                                    [–]suprmavrik7 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    mata was so fucking average.

                                    [–]tehforsh 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    I really want to like LvG, I really do. He has genuinely done some positive things for the club and some bright ideas - the problem is he's made twice as many atrocious decisions as well. Blind has been a great step-in defender (though yes today he made some bad mistakes, but remember how good he was last game), Martial has been fantastic, though the young-uns were forced in they've been managed very well, a lot of the dead wood has gone (though i'd have kept 1 or 2 until we had proven players in their position...).

                                    However, the team selection has been absolutely atrocious at times. Today has been ridiculous. Mata and Lingard are in the wrong position. The Rashford/Martial combo worked quite well when we didn't have a decent winger, so we had to use Martial - but with Young and Valencia back there is no excuse. TFM at RB over Darmian did appear to work well this game, but it was a big gamble with so much at stake. Rojo is in a poor run of form and should have been dropped. Then the stupid out-of-place substitutions ... what is going on?

                                    I'm still not convinced Mourinho is the best manager for the club, as i'm worried he'll burn us out like he did Chelski .. but LvG HAS to go and Mou is the best manager available.

                                    [–]cristiano10sMartial 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                    At least our bounce-back game is against Villa. Surely, we can't lose that

                                    [–]midvedMartial 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Can this season please just end already :(.

                                    [–]Count__Duckula 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    LVG marched into the dressing room looking to replace rashford like for like. Looked at Depay and thought 'not good enough' looked at Young and thought 'hes the man for the job'.

                                    [–]HomelessSmurfMartial 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    ['Man United aren't the sort of club to sack their manager'

                                    Man United weren't the sort of club to lose 3-0 to Spurs...](https://twitter.com/FootyJokesUK/status/719211541879500801)

                                    [–]ohyou123 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    I hope Woodward has the bottle to sack LVG this summer.

                                    [–]opacino 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    I don't even know what is worse, feeling bad for some of our fans that had hope about today, or feeling sorry for some that still believe in LVG like /u/theAwakened

                                    At the end of the day, this is a very predictable result. I made a thread about how we tend to have bad results every 2-3 games. If we don't get knocked out by West Ham, which is highly plausible, then our next third game is against Leicester. Expect us to look impressive against Villa and have a dour win against CP.

                                    We should accept that we have failed as a club. LVG has spent money woefully and the team is weaker than last season. Ironically the story of the game is how Spurs dodged a huge bullet in not signing LVG as their manager. Pochettino has come in with limited funds and built a team that plays like a team and has the right balance of experience and youth. I said to someone on this sub that Dele Alli has had a more impressive season than Martial and will probably win the young PFA award over Martial. As usual was downvoted.

                                    We can't feign ignorance over this loss. We faced MK Dons in LVG's first season and Dele Alli destroyed us. Yet we did nothing. We faced Leicester in LVG's first season and Vardy and Mahrez destroyed us. Yet LVG did nothing. Not saying that we shouldn't have gone for Martial, but there is talent that we just ignore and waste millions on buying players to be moulded into diff positions.

                                    LVG has actually tarnished the image of the club. Only mercenaries will consider coming here. Every player has regressed under LVG with the exception of Blind, Smalling and De Gea. It's a bit of a shame but most fans on here wanted this end result so this is what it means when you downvote folks that disagree with you, you end up being confused and saddened that champions league is out of our hands.

                                    [–]EnixXIIIPark Ji-Sung 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    When Tottenham fans call you shit you know you need to fuck off

                                    [–]danskzwag 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Carrick was poor in the 2nd half, thats the reason why smalling was pressing so far into the other half

                                    [–]RenryMata 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Aside from losing, the most frustrating thing to me is that it seems like LVG is still messing around with positions.

                                    WTF with the changes at the half? Was Fosu-Mensah really that integral prior to the injury? After Darmian came on, it was as if Spurs said, "hey, we can exploit that back line now..."

                                    [–]WhoAteDepayMemphisssssss. 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    6 league games of that Dutch twat left. Every cloud...

                                    [–]merlin318[🍰] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Cant wait for this fraud to leave. Absolute fuck all team. Talks so much about balance but plays an attacking midfielder as almost a wingback, a featherweight winger as striker, a youngster who is a much better striker is left on the wing and an extremely poor Lingard in a free role. Ive never wanted to punch an old man so hard.

                                    [–]mufcirclejerk 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    The good:

                                    1. Fosu Mensah again impressive
                                    2. Lingard, Martial, and Rashford showed some good interplay in the first half
                                    3. I didn't travel to the game
                                    4. The myth of Blind being a worthy first choice centre back should finally be dispelled
                                    5. We didn't lose 5-0, which we easily could have
                                    6. We probably won't finish fourth now and I'm ~80% confident that LVG will be sacked if we don't
                                    7. Our fans turned up on time
                                    8. A plane did not crash into the stadium and kill any of the players, fans, or staff of either club
                                    9. We are 90 minutes closer to winning a trophy at some point over the next quarter of a century

                                    The bad:

                                    1. Blind will still be a first choice centre back for the rest of this season
                                    2. Fosu Mensah injured
                                    3. Rashford injured
                                    4. Rojo plays first team football for Manchester United and nobody seems to question it
                                    5. We brought on Ashley Young to play as centre forward in a must-win game
                                    6. Another game totally passed Carrick by
                                    7. LVG will be our manager until the end of the season because it's still mathematically possible that we can get fourth
                                    8. LVG might not be sacked if we finish fifth and win the FA Cup
                                    9. Depay looked bobbins when he came on (again)

                                    [–]generiquaiGiggs 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    ITT: 'TFM didn't die for this'

                                    [–]Alehud42 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    35 days to go, guys!

                                    [–]XenidiousKing Dave 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Thank goodness "Glory glory Man United" isn't playing.

                                    [–]devilgroveMartial 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    The whole game changed when Fosu-Mensah left. The fact that we had to rely on an 18 year old says a lot about the state of United.

                                    [–]Tinkyxwinky 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    1. Erisken is everything I hoped Mata would be. It's incredible how often Mata gets showed up by actual creative players

                                    2. I'm glad Memphis looked like he gave a shit unlike our manager.

                                    3. Fuck everything.

                                    Also, Rashford chose the worst of times to have a poor game. Rooney is about to be back to full fitness and I think LVG will be mad most of our starters after this match.

                                    We capitulated after TFM went off. And inb4 LVG blames the traffic

                                    [–]CveinMemphis & Martial 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    TFM didn't die for this.

                                    [–]eLCT 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    Hoo boy, this next week isn't gonna be fun

                                    [–]TyperSniper 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    81 days until the 1st of July.

                                    [–]MyWholeTeamsDead 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    And my friends wonder why my interest in cricket has suddenly increased tenfold.

                                    [–]CveinMemphis & Martial 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Ashley Young did absolutely nothing after he came on. Rashford didn't do much in the first half, but Young did less. That was a very, very weird choice by LvG. It's hard to deny the importance of TFM in this game.

                                    [–]sepehrackMartial Madness 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                    I miss Luke Shaw :(
                                    Rojo was woeful today

                                    [–]darthvaderslabradorRooney 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    "Lads, it's United"- Tottenham

                                    :(

                                    [–]brownbeaver2412Smalling 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Of course Memphis is gonna be frustrated. The first time he plays in ages its a substitute appearance when the team 3 nil down.

                                    [–]HagarenoGary Neville 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Mourinho can't arrive soon enough.

                                    [–]the_special_juanMata 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    I would like to thank Manchester United for improving my patience immensely, learn how to deal with disappointment and anger in an efficient manner, and practise my creative thinking by trying to understand wtf LVG is trying to do with his subs and tactics.

                                    I really didn't think I would be getting the most practice out of any of these 3 things from watching football a few years ago.

                                    [–]Goraj1234 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    What more can you really expect when you have Lingard as a number 10 (creative player), ashley young as striker, and mata & carrick as statues

                                    [–]robbo_6Cantona 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Darmian is so bad.

                                    [–]soma40Carrick 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Blind and Rojo were not good. Have to give credit to Pochettino for his style of play.

                                    [–]Driggedy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Please Van Gaal...

                                    [–]DevilxAceRooney 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Seriously. Terrible subs by LvG. The game was lost the moment Young came on at striker instead of Martial/Memphis. I just want this season to be over. Top 4, FA Cup, whatever. Just move on from this shite.

                                    [–]chickensoup1Beckham 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Remember lads, its a 3 year process. What a tactical genius LVG is playing Young up top when we have a perfectly capable striker playing left wing. Wait for the usual shite from him in the post game interview as usual.

                                    [–]ADMRVPMartial 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Our wins have been unimpressive and our losses have been demoralizing just give me Mourinho already.

                                    [–]unsulliedkuntaHerrera 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    disgusting performance, no one could be arsed for us.

                                    summer can't come soon enough...

                                    [–]cosarccos 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    We have a right winger, a left winger, a striker, and an attacking mid.

                                    Van Gaal plays the right winger at attacking mid, the striker at left wing, the left wing at striker, and the attacking mid at right wing.

                                    Van Gaal logic

                                    [–]ungaayaAnder 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Fosu-Mensah! Top lad.

                                    [–]shades3370Rooney 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    This is the most mismanaged team I've ever seen

                                    [–]soupnaxi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    I've become accustomed to seeing us create and fulfil storylines for the opposition.

                                    [–]epicboarMata 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Total Football ? More like total shit. Embarassing display.

                                    [–]Melanjoly 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Louis Van Gaal you are an absolute disgrace, do the honourable thing and resign.

                                    [–]catfayceCole 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Why do I watch each week. It's like I'm in an abusive relationship

                                    [–]louis7875Memphis 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    Anyone else not even pissed anymore? I just feel like it's another step towards getting rid of the fucking mess we're in.

                                    [–]DipsetThug32 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Nice to see Blind fraternizing and BSing with the Spurs players post match. I'd be inconsolable, applaud the traveling fans and then get lost down the tunnel. There needs to be a mindset change in this club.

                                    Miss SAF dearly on days like today.

                                    [–]DANNYWELBECK12345De Gea 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Young for Rashford is worse than Powell for Mata in Wolfsburg, i really hope he walks today I can't stand it anymore, need to prioritize martial, shaw and tfm next year.

                                    [–]saintratchetGet well soon Luke 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    When Martial missed that chance I really struggled to see how we were gonna score afterwards. The first goal killed the game, I couldn't watch it after that. First time in a while I have turned off a match with 20 minutes left because I knew we had no chance.

                                    Fuck LvG and fuck this season. I have a lot of doubts for Wednesday.

                                    [–]ShwilyBest 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    After the first goal we totally fell apart. Embarrassing really. We still technically have a chance for fourth but I don't know if we'll get it

                                    [–]arnavkoomsMata 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    While TFM was on the pitch we were practically playing with a back 5, with mata at rb and TFM at rcb. In terms of attacking we were absolutely no threat, aside Martial's brilliance. LVG's plan coming into this match was horrible. A) Mata at RM B) Young as ST C) Lingard as 10 D) Not taking anything away from TFM's performance, TFM at RB (he was brilliant but he's could be so much more effective as cdm or cb even). Main point, players need to play in their favored positions!

                                    [–]badgarok725Boss 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Well the first ~15 minutes were good.

                                    [–]NestledrinkHerrera 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    What the fuck kind of substitution was that? A winger who has been injured for MONTHS being subbed in as our lone striker. Why? Why? Why? Why? It makes zero fucking sense in the first place and it makes zero fucking sense the fact that Martial was already playing and could be easily pushed into ST role. What the fuck dude...

                                    TFM was the bright spot but he went off injured.

                                    I've been advocating for LVG out since December so this has not really changed my stance. I've become numb to this mediocrity.

                                    Sad, really.

                                    [–]bonorcrown 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    That was the difference between a well drilled team with a manager who knows his players and a thrown together team with a manager who doesn't have a fucking clue.

                                    [–]AspectsDruidCarrick 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Playing Mata at right back, and Young at CF was a bit baffling. But quite frankly we conceded the goals when all our defenders got drawn towards the ball.

                                    [–]Bacon_BoobiesMemphis 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Lads, it's Totttenham..... PISSING ON OUR CHIPS! FUCK!

                                    [–]PenPaperShotgun 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    You know it's a joke that a Spurs team had just received the news that their first ever title chance has been dashed and we must win to get champions league and we can't even muster a few decent chances. It's a fucking joke.

                                    LVG has gutted the squad, we have no decent wingers, once again mata is piss weak and we lose.

                                    I can't stand LVG

                                    [–]Demotic 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    The sheer amount of optimism in the pre match thread on this sub was hilarious. I'm glad you lot have crashed landed back to earth. "Lads, it's Tottenham."

                                    [–]W0rsleyRafael 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Apart from the first few games of the season Darmian has been bang average and at times fucking dreadful, he's way too passive and gets caught out of position so many times it's unbelievable, he's also useless going forward.

                                    Hopefully it's something to do with Van Gaal and Mourinho can get him performing at a decent level because at the moment TFM and Valencia should start ahead of him.

                                    [–]mu_37Schneiderlin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    playing like headless chickens throughout the game and collapsing when an 18 year old gets injured.this is well and truly a great game to sum up the LVG era.please let this fucking end already.

                                    [–]YazeedRs 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    😥

                                    [–]Lost_And_NotFoundJones 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Conceded 3 goals almost immediately after TFM goes off, he was having such a great game!

                                    [–]Hazsbgae 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    tks god. It ended

                                    [–]ValenciasLeftFootValencia 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Darmian...

                                    [–]BulbasaurlikesbaconJones 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    As a Dutch guy I wanted LVG to succeed so bad. I thought we had a real shot at the title this season but with the way we're playing relegation seems more likely

                                    [–]xtfftcValencia 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Blind is soooooo underrated, oh my god.

                                    [–]kjabs87 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Timmy going off turned the game. Lingard was non existent and why can't he ever make a hard tackle. He coulda prevented a goal if he didn't pussy foot in. Rojo was shit. Rashford was nonexistent but taking him off and putting young on? Mata had to defend too much and did very little. Schneiderlin, de gea, and Timmy all were good today. Martial should have scored his one run. We created nothing and deserved nothing from this game. Can the attack please fucking attack.

                                    [–]ccdewa 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    the board should really sign Mourinho soon before he change his mind ffs

                                    [–]CyaNBlu3Giggs 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Young striker, Mata LW, Lindgard #10, wait 3-0 to get memphis on, and we have a youngster holding the entire defense. Geez,....

                                    [–]DoYouLikeOurOwlCantona 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    It's Tottenham. Fuck this.

                                    Why putting Darmian in? Fosu-Mensah had such a good game going on. All three goals came from Darmian's side.

                                    This is so fucking frustrating.

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