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Red Pill TheoryWomen Do Not Want Your Love (self.TheRedPill)

TRP VanguardCyralea が 投稿 - stickied post

Your whole life you’ve been fed a version of reality that has been palatable to you. One day a wandering beta stumbles into TheRedPill and reads one of the most pivotal works ever written here and comes to a crossroads. Do I continue to hold onto the version of reality that I’ve known all my life, or do I start challenging these ideas and see the truth for myself?

That boy takes the first step in his journey towards finally thinking for himself. Any idea that doesn’t hold up to the scrutiny of reality bears challenging, and discarding if necessary.

Still, some ideas are harder than others to let go, because many of them are derived from inward feelings they’ve felt their whole lives. Men know how they feel about women. And many of you have experienced relationships where you well and truly loved a woman. No one could deny you that. A number of challenges and hurdles may have tested that bond, but never did you have a reason to doubt your love. That love is why you chose to keep going, despite it all.

However, there is a large disconnect with the inverse; women do not want your love. It is not what they’re after.

No, what women truly want is value. They want a combination of things that excite their dopamine receptors, none of which come directly from you loving her. She wants your value; your status, your wealth, your protection, your comfort. A man that has all these things can excite a woman by telling her he loves her, only because it means that she is being given a gift. She does not love you. She loves those gifts, the transfer of your value.

Compare and contrast that to what happens when your value is gone. Your love means precisely nothing to her. Quite the opposite, it disgusts her. She does not want your love. She doesn’t want to be loved. She wants to be validated by value, and the words “I love you” do exactly that for her, providing that you offer her some value.

Recognizing this disconnect is yet another step on the TRP journey. Men and women are different in so many regards. This is one more facet of that collection. Men do desire female love. Your brain is wired to crave female love. This is not true with women, and misapplying this with them sets you up for disappointment when your expectations invariably aren’t met.

Your love does not bring with it any intrinsic value. To her it is as worthless as the air that comes out of your mouth when you say it. Treat “I love you” for what it really is – “I’m willing to share my value with you”, because that is what women really desire.

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[–]ghebert001 103ポイント104ポイント  (5子コメント)

That's why women do a complete 180 and divorce your ass the second you get laid off and cannot immediately find another job. If you cannot provide resources and protection, you mean nothing to her. No woman has ever gone to a homeless shelter to look for a man with a heart of gold.

[–]OneInAZillion 47ポイント48ポイント  (2子コメント)

And on the flip side of that, no man (or very, VERY few) has gone the extra 100 miles to absolutely demolish a woman in a divorce, take the kids out of spite for no other reason than to fuck with her, even though she's a proven fit parent, and keep twisting that knife for years and years for no other reason than out of pure spite and anger that his "best years" were wasted.

[–]FerrusMan 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

keep twisting that knife for years and years for no other reason than out of pure spite and anger that his "best years" were wasted.

In addition to this, she will keep twisting that knife for years over her anger at being "tricked" into marrying, sleeping with and having kids from a beta.

[–]Crimsonwind85 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What could we call a guy that can do this (hypothetically speaking), and still slay the putty tat ?

[–]redpillisgospil 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

No woman has ever gone to a homeless shelter to look for a man with a heart of gold.

Someone needs to do a youtube street walk on this.

[–]Endorsed ContributorNeoreactionSafe 108ポイント109ポイント  (2子コメント)

 

Men desire Freedom, Women desire Access

 

If you stick to that rule you will be fine.

A woman desires Access to anything you represent in terms of value.

Your love must come from a position of Freedom. (ego boundry or Frame)

Men love women, women love children, children love puppies

...in that scenario the man holds Frame (has internal Freedom) and loves in a way that rewards the good behavior and punishes the bad.

The beta mistake is to lack Freedom and love as a boy to his mother.

Don't be a needy motherfucker.

 

[–]Chrience 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

Your love must come from a position of Freedom. (ego boundry or Frame)

And what better way is there for denying yourself of the freedom needed for enjoying a woman's 'love' than by getting married to her? When you cant punish her for bad behaviour since she would always have the power to leave you and take half your earnings if she feels you 'abused' her in any way?

When you get married, you lose the power from leveraging your ability to leave, and when you lose that power, she loses respect for you. Since child support and alimony laws of 'Marriage 2.0', marriage was rigged to give all the power to her in the relationship and instinctually, that disgusts her. A man cannot lead the family when he has no power over his wife.

Don't get married.

[–]Endorsed ContributorNeoreactionSafe 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

The laws are actually worse than that.

Child Support Laws (federal) were adopted in 1950.

Prior to 1950 a woman who was unmarried had no way to place a man into slavery because she got pregnant.

So don't become confused about Marriage.

You are screwed even if you don't marry her.

In fact, the only difference is the potential for alimony and "spousal support" which is another way to milk money out of the guy.

Avoiding marriage is the tip of the iceburg of today's problems.

Prior to 1950 none of these problems existed, so marriage was a reasonable contract.

 

[–]2Meat-on-the-table 40ポイント41ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's in the sidebar, but it bears repeating: The only thing that matters to a woman is another woman.

Realize that everything she does--from the makeup,to the clothes, to the fashion, to the man--all of it is in service to her need to be above other women.

A man is the ultimate tool of a woman's manipulation because he can provide resources and value intrinsic in being an alpha.

You're a tool to her, one that drives her hamster and her ascent over other women.

[–]Chrience 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

And at the same time, there's always a crabs in a bucket mentality with groups of women. They all want to be above eachother but also drag them down to their own level. It's a constant social war between them and there's never any friendship between women without this hidden conflict. A woman can have a close female friend for years, but when she gets fitter and more attractive than her, suddenly she's a 'bitch' and they hate eachother.

[–]EdvardMunch 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have a nice example of that. This plate I was with, I started dating her friend who lives out of town. She seemed upset but played it cool.

One night we were hanging out at a bar and she ends up coming back home with me. We fuck and she quickly leaves the next morning with too many thank you's. She doesn't bite to hangout again and I ask her what's wrong, "well I forgot you were dating so and so" which was a lie. I told her we had quit dating and just as you'd suspect she lost all interest.

She fucked me to gain lost value, and I had perceived value being a man with a woman above her.

Never fear dating too many women at once, it will fuel the flame of desire more than dampen it.

[–]--HankMoody-- 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is a well written comment and it is correct but she also has another major factor playing with her brain, that is the desire for powerful, attractive and healthy offspring. She will fuck Chad, or even a psycopathic bikie or homeless guy for his sperm alone. In those moments she is not looking for value, status or resources. She is looking for warrior sperm and she does not care what she has to do to get it inside her. Of course we have contraception now, so women can just ride that carousel indefinitely with Chad in night club toilets and his dingy one bedroom apartment. Then at precisely 28 she can panic and decide she needs a good provider to get her pregnant.

[–]SmoothPrimal -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This subreddit is filled with disillusioned men who just find reasons to hate women.

You are over generalizing every woman in every culture in every age in every country. In the US that may be the case since women here tend to be very materialistic and value-driven but in other parts of the world, women tend to be very feminine and quite devoted to their husbands because of how they are brought up.

Bluepill redpill is pretty much the radical extremes of each other. Blue pill loves women no matter what, redpill hates women no matter what.

I really hope this subreddit evolves from being so one-sided and truly become a subreddit about the truth not just woman-hating.

[–]raisins3142 17ポイント18ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'd say women want to be loved by a high value man. They do not enjoy the actual act of loving them back.

I lost frame and snooped my exes texts backed up via google (left her gmail logged in on my computer). I read what she wrote her friends during a 2 week break up period (I left her). She never once mentioned me or any trait of mine, only that she wanted to be loved and not be alone and other things totally centered on her self. In fact, I don't think my name or even a pronoun related pointed to me was used more than a few times in several weeks.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea[S] 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

They don't actually want his love. They want the validation and the shared value that comes with it. They want what his saying "I love you" represents. They don't actually care for his love.

A high value man's love by itself isn't worth anything to women.

[–]raisins3142 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree. They want it because it means that he is committed and it will help them socially, materially, and emotionally. Perhaps this is why women are such enthusiastic users of any technology that is a surrogate, such as facebook validation.

[–]chance01 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Facebook aka Validation Station.

[–]walking_ape 14ポイント15ポイント  (10子コメント)

I think the same is actually true vice versa. It's just that a man's value is more volatile. It can change dramatically within a short time span. A woman's value is more stable. It takes a much longer time to change.

If a fat old lady told you that she loved you (in a romantic/sexual way), that would be disgusting.

A woman's love means she will give you sex. That's the only reason we care about it. That's why we hate the friend zone. Love without sex? What's the point?!

[–]Jigsus 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

You are onto something but there are plenty of men who still love their aging wives at 80 when they can't even have sex.

[–]Luis_McLovin 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

At that point those men are simply enjoying the feeling of love, its an emotional high, with safe confidence their wives aren't going to run off for some CC action, because face it, she's old as fuck.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMentORPHEUS 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Read up on companionate love, versus passionate love.

[–]Jigsus 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm not a big supporter of the triangular love theory

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangular_theory_of_love

That's what you were hinting at weren't you?

[–]Endorsed ContributorMentORPHEUS 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Until I read that wiki page just now, I hadn't heard of Steinberg and his Triangle of Love theory. It does look like a useful paradigm especially in the attraction and initial stages of shorter-term relationships.

I was referring to the natural and readily observable evolution of many long-term relationships from passionate to companionate love, which is what keeps sexless 80yos lovingly together till the end.

[–]1Entropy-7 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

That seems like a reasonable theory. I have a broader relationship theory that I call The Color Wheel. You basically have three components to any relationship: sex, love and camaraderie corresponding to red, green and blue. Mix them together and you get other types of relationships: yellow = romance, cyan = friendship, magenta = FWB. And of course, unicorns are white.

[–]redpillisgospil 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Women have sex with men they don't love, be careful.

[–]1Entropy-7 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ya, the ones they find sexy. But they will have sex with unsexy men they love . . . or for the love of money.

[–]walking_ape 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's why I was trying to say we only care about a woman's love in so far as it indicates her willingness to have sex with us.

The love is just there to assure us that the sex is likely to continue for a long time and not just be a fling.

[–]1Entropy-7 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Women use sex to get love; men use love to get sex.

[–]Thenextprince 32ポイント33ポイント  (7子コメント)

They dont want my love, They just want my potential - The Weeknd

[–]TechnoRaptor -2ポイント-1ポイント  (6子コメント)

I mean they want both, but one is definitely much more important

[–]Thenextprince 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

Its a song bro, You might like it.

The party & the after party by the weeknd.

[–]Skully5591 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

All his previous albums were so dope. Dislike the latest one. Downsides of going mainstream.

[–]Thenextprince 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

True. Check out my summary of his music on the TRP front page bro.

I miss that druggied out, "fuck bitches no commitment, xo me and my niggas ballin" music he was making tho.

[–]Dat_Black_Guy 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

that shit was were it was at!

[–]Thenextprince 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hell yeah. Can you think of any other RP music?

[–]Dat_Black_Guy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

i'd say some DMX (also great for workouts), Camrom (the whole dipset team) the song "suck it or not" comes to mind

[–]evileddy 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Love is not a viable resource for women.. they can't buy shoes with your love... now your money they can use.

[–]stonecats 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

the dopamine trigger sequence of events may vary. a very desirable women may believe you can give her all the stuff she needs, and will then seem to love you - thus you foolishly love her back. in time she decides you are not as rewarding to be with as she assumed, so she dumps you and leaves you heart broken. this sequence may be great for guys just hooking up, but it's terrible for those looking for a lasting relationship.

so guys should play it cool with the hook up approach, then if you survive her scrutiny and friends vetting and she still wants what you have to offer - you are in the drivers seat as to keeping her around or continuing to play the field. this is why relationship looking guys should never rush the engagement period, and if an engagement is broken by her - short of you winning a 10mil lottery, she's not going to stick around for a second try.

[–]submitted_5_days_ago 14ポイント15ポイント  (7子コメント)

Exchanges of power. No more, no less.

Men's power is hypothetically infinite. Today you have 1 million, tomorrow you can have 1 billion.

Women are hypergamous because their power is capped. It goes up until the wall, then all the way down.

Since they only have a capped amount of chips, they must choose to whom they gonna give them so they can have the -what you call- value in return.

And it's clear, when they see a more valuable bargain for the same amount of chips (spreading their legs X times a week), they gonna switch quite fast!

It's economics. Everybody would switch where they buy more quantity for the same price.

[–]raisins3142 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

Women compete against each other in a zero sum game. Men can cooperate with each other in positive sum games. It's one reason women don't get along with each other, their collaboration nets no additional value to them.

[–]Vietnom 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Is that entirely true though? I remember reading somewhere that women are more attractive in packs.

[–]raisins3142 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

My reply was a bit of a non sequitur. Women divide up the value that men bring, men bring value. Men cooperate with each other to add value, and is why men have such things as honor and reciprocity. And it is why women fight with each other and don't like each other much.

[–]ioncehadsexinapool 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love that. It makes so much sense.

[–]OpiumPhrogg 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's called the cheerleader effect. Google will tell you all about it.

[–]chance01 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

One reason why women love reality shows; those programs show women deep in their natures - petty, competitive, not seeing any value in getting along, glamed up only to out glam the others,wet paper thin friendships, hypergamy, extracting value from the men who are in relationships with them.

[–]KartagoPill -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would buy more for same prince. It's something basic. Really easy to use this especially when I would had coochie.

[–]redpillnexus 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Such a sad truth. Really I've never been bitter and I do have genuine feelings sometimes, but I'm pretty sure the other party never has...

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

You eventually come to grips with it. False expectations lead to disappointment down the road.

[–]Thenextprince 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I dont understand how any redpill man can have an emotional connection with a woman after being redpilled. Even if you're not attached, and don't care about losing her, why care/love something that can never truly return it?

I don't believe in love, I see it as a mating hormone. & I have low empathy, I've never felt anything eemotional for a chick, so I've never been burned. So its quite easy for me to not love, so I might be biased. I just don't understand how a redpill man could love a woman. They're basically life support systems for their pussies to me. Sperm recepticles.

[–]barryberry 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel the same way. I have never been 'in love' with someone and have low empathy. It doesn't seem very common, I have talked about this with some people (even a RP friend of me) and none of them understand this at all. Just like I don't understand what kind of idiotic stuff they do for their girlfriends and get bitching in return. Do you know any more people like yourself?

[–]_trpdude 11ポイント12ポイント  (14子コメント)

Do I continue to hold onto the version of reality that I’ve known all my life, or do I start challenging these ideas and see the truth for myself?

I actually think it would be pretty hard to remain ignorant after having been exposed to the truth. After you know it, you just see it everywhere.

[–]Modredpillschool 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

I actually think it would be pretty hard to remain ignorant after having been exposed to the truth. After you know it, you just see it everywhere.

Some kiddos get the pill stuck in their throat and whine on subs like ex-redpill about how they were suckered into believing a false reality but now they've escaped it.

You don't swallow the red pill and then change your mind. They never understood it to begin with.

[–]redpillisgospil 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

There is I think a sub population that is instead in denial or retreat. The truths are hard to swallow, no pun intended.

[–]1theoctopuss 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They can't handle the truth.

They were told that if they do everything "right", they would be rewarded with a loyal wife regardless of looks or game.

When reality hits them in the face, when they realize that the uneasy gut feeling wasn't just because of a terrible diet, the autonomous mind will do things to protect itself. Either the ego will regress to a point where it isn't conflicted, or it will splinter and compartmentalize the information. They don't have the capacity to handle such a stressor on the psyche.

Men with less testosterone will give up, or look for ways to subvert biology. Men with more testosterone will run into red pill ideology headfirst.

[–]ex_addict_bro 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

I actually think it would be pretty hard to remain ignorant after having been exposed to the truth.

Knowing is one thing, acting is another. Codependency is a form of addiction and it is very real for those of us who have been plagued by it. It actually made me powerless, it made me live a life out of my control. Now as I'm getting better, I'm actually thinking about rewriting TRP stuff into a model of addiction - it is more palatable to me this way. See my recent comments to see what I mean. But, be warned, I believe that only those who genuinely felt their own addiction and understand the mechanisms are able to grasp this properly.

[–]1PrinceofSpades 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

There are many ways to act once you know, and it is none of our place to critique those who have chosen. Of those I have educated with TRP successfully over the years (as many are prone to reject the pill), one cracked and swore off women altogether, one lifts with me regularly and comes out with me to pull ass from time to time (and does so frequently on his own), and the last used it to break free from his horribly controlling and abusive ex and instead found another woman to say 'I love you' to, except this time around he wears the pants when he needs to, and doesn't put up with shittests from her end ever. He lets her be in charge sometimes when it benefits him or makes him happy, but the second she acts up, he steps in and puts her correctly back into place. They couldn't be happier.

All three of these men are correct. They are living their own way in response to learning the truth about society as it pertains to both men and women. All three acted, they just chose different courses of action to make them the most happy. That's ultimately the point of all of this: for you as an individual to find your own happiness after learning the truth about the world around you.

[–]raisins3142 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yep, saw Gregg Allman on his current tour a few days ago. He played a beautiful song called "multicolored lady". It is amazingly romantic and blue pill. I looked around the auditorium and realized why I've never heard a woman write a song like that about a man. Further, the drunk women at the show kept trying to draw attention to themselves and be part of the show. It was my uncle's birthday and I took him to the show as his gift. My uncle is gay but masculine as hell and RP (when my friends find out his gay they are literally shocked beyond belief). He leaned over and said "damn, I'm so lucky I don't like these dumb bitches". I laughed and agreed.

[–]Thenextprince 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

See, i dont think most men are bothered by masculine gays. I dont care if you like dick, as long as you still act like a man. Its the feminine Flamboyant faggots that ruin it for gay men. Just cause you like dick doesnt mean you have to act like a woman. I have a gay masculine neighbor named JT, we shoot pool and do shots sometimes. Cool ass dude.

[–]raisins3142 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yep, my uncle himself doesn't care for the antics of flamboyant gays. He is the type to have long term partners, I've met them and am very good friends with his current. And they are all masculine and cool as hell. Type of guys that invite you to go shoot their new varmint rifle they just got at an auction or drive their sports car.

He jokes about flamers. The guy that dog sits for him is a former drag queen. I was eating a sandwich with them before my uncle and I were going somewhere, and the drag queen dropped part of his sandwich down his shirt. My uncle retorted "thank god your bra caught that!" And we all, including the queen, laughed our asses off.

He is my closest relative outside of nuclear family. I learned he was gay when I was 16 years old. He has impacted my life positively in many ways, and I love him dearly. The fact that his other family and I totally accept him has brought us all closer.

Anyways, just felt like sharing a bit more.

EDIT: One more thing, the only time most well adjusted men dislike gays is when they are aggressively hitting on them and seem oblivious to our none response. There are a few "sex addictie" gays at my gym that cruise me all the time despite me showing zero interest. I hate that shit, must be what hot women deal with daily.

[–]Thenextprince 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thats awesome bro. Family is important, especially masculine family. Masculine brotherhood is a great thing. I have low empathy, But i have 2-4 bros Im great friends with and were like brothers. Loyalty is a great thing to have between bros. You gotta take care of your brothers/family/squad.

[–]1Entropy-7 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

One time I was online and a ladyboy started chatting with me. It was friendly but I made it clear it wasn't going anywhere. At one point the discussion turned to fashion and I made some sort of comment that prompted her/him/it to say "I'm a tranny, not a fag!" Flamers ever disgust trannies!

I spent a few months working part time in a porn/sex shop. Most of the other employees (all male) and the "regulars" (who would buy stuff but a lot of times would just hang around) were gay. I got hit on a flirted with all the time even when making it clear I didn't swing that way. When that was pointed out to one of the regulars apparently he said "Oh, I can turn him."

Living in Vancouver for 3 years basically cured me of any "homophobia" because getting hit on by guys became so normalized it didn't bother me any more. Plus, it gives you some insight into what decent looking women have to put up with.

[–]1Entropy-7 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

One time I was online and a ladyboy started chatting with me. It was friendly but I made it clear it wasn't going anywhere. At one point the discussion turned to fashion and I made some sort of comment that prompted her/him/it to say "I'm a tranny, not a fag!" Flamers ever disgust trannies!

I spent a few months working part time in a porn/sex shop. Most of the other employees (all male) and the "regulars" (who would buy stuff but a lot of times would just hang around) were gay. I got hit on a flirted with all the time even when making it clear I didn't swing that way. When that was pointed out to one of the regulars apparently he said "Oh, I can turn him."

Living in Vancouver for 3 years basically cured me of any "homophobia" because getting hit on by guys became so normalized it didn't bother me any more. Plus, it gives you some insight into what decent looking women have to put up with.

[–]FerrusMan 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Indeed. Unlike Cypher and the Matrix, once you've become unplugged, there is no going back in. Deny it all you want, but the truth of this stuff has a way of bubbling up to the top and staring you in the face. However different you wish the world could be.

[–]rognos 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

There is no pill to undo the red pill. The initial anger and frustration side effects do go away though.

[–]soadaa 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. After experiencing it firsthand a few times and reading everything here, there's no denying the truth. There's no going back, not that I'd want to go back.

Some people actively chose to lie to themselves though. I parallel it to obese and lazy fucks telling themselves they can't change things but it's also okay that they can't anyway.

[–]Thenextprince 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

I dont feel any desire to be loved by women, I just want to fuck and then i want them to leave. Then again, I have a fucked up brain and low empathy. What can regular men do to get rid of that craving for female love, besides fuck a ton of chicks?

[–]redpillisgospil 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

STRs, plates. LTRs and cheat (male AF\BB).

[–]Thenextprince 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's what I figured. I feel bad for regular dudes who crave that soft acceptance and being able to drop their guard around a woman, cause they'll never find it.

[–]redpillisgospil 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Everyone craves it. But I mean I want a $5 filet mignon with prime meat. I have to either pay up, or eat down.

I know one unicorn IRL, and even she is being pushed to the very limits right now and there are rumors of pending divorce.

[–]Thenextprince 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't crave it. I've hated women all my 16 years of life, never felt an emotion for them besides lust.

[–]huge_gap 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

So true. TL:DR women only want the value you provide them through status, safety, and escape. They only "love you" for as much value you provide in any of these categories.

[–]KermitTheeFrog777 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Impressively concise. Brilliant mantra for calibrating your expectations.

And as they say, happiness is being better-off than expected.

[–]therellikofthenight 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

One could make the case that men don't love women either. Men love the tang, the booty and the supahead - and the adulation that comes with it. When you're the man and you're on top of your game, other men wanna know who you are and wanna talk to you - that's an addictive feeling. More than cocaine. More than alcohol. More than getting some banging chick on your ding-a-ling.

People in general just do shit to impress. That's why they post all the "highlights" on Facebook even though most of their lives aren't that great. Niggas lean against nice cars that ain't even theirs and take pics just to put it on Facebook. No joke.

[–]Jigsus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Many people don't subscribe to that sort of attention and the ones that do usually do it as a way of attracting women.

[–]socialinjusticewar 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

... they want satisfaction. They've gotta find themeselves another piece of the action cause they're crazy.

[–]PinnacleOfHate 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"She doesn't love YOU. She loves how you make her FEEL." comes best to mind.

[–]Thenextprince 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

We all know women dont want your love. I dont understand why parts of TRP say you can love women in an ltr in the captain/first mate dynamic then. IMO, A redpill man should never fall in love with a woman.

[–]1PrinceofSpades 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

Because you're allowed to love a woman, whether she wants it or not. You love her for you, because it's soemthing you desire and soemthing that makes you happy by improving your perceived quality of life in some way.

Notice a trend? It still needs to be about you. I've loved some first mates I've had, but I loved them because I wanted to love someone, and because they earned it from me. I didn't love them because they wanted it, or because of who they were. I wanted a woman to love at that point in my life, and she just happened to be that woman at that time. A TRP man should never get attached, but he is allowed to love. Just make sure it's on his terms, and never expect it to last forever.

[–]Thenextprince 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

But loving her is investment, and lowers your value and attraction in her eyes.

[–]redpillisgospil 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can love someone but not give up your value. What you you really meant is that you can't give her commitment.

AKA "keep her on her toes."

[–]1PrinceofSpades 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Indeed; hopefully your attraction and value is high enough from the gym and your career success that it doesn't matter. It's still a privilege for her to be with you and not the other way around. That's how successful and happy TRP-oriented marriages and families are successfully run, because she knows you're the best she'd ever have, and you were dumb enough to pick her forever instead of a never-ending line up of young, hot, and fertile women that your looks, wealth, and power have earned and can access. It's the man taking the blow, for the sake of progeny.

Women no longer know their own value, and thus are no longer worth loving or giving love to. Not all investments are bad; most pay off rather well. Hell, I've used I love you to keep a girl with me for a few extra months of great sex in the middle of a break up because I knew things were ending the end of that summer anyways. I made an investment for a short term gain and a long term loss, but didn't go all in or overcommit and so I walked away fine and unscathed.

[–]Wel108 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

No it doesn't if your value remains high as a man, and as long as she is beneath you in status. Being in a LTR is hard work, you cannot slack off, and the higher you go in SMV as a partner, the harder is is to maintain.

[–]remyseven 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

The girl I'm dating right now is a tomboy and she says she loves wholeheartedly and she doesn't share. But does she share herself?

[–]choomguy -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

TL;dr. Women and men define love differently.

[–]1introvertp -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Be what she WANTS, not what she needs.

[–]SmoothPrimal -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'd consider this but this post and all the comments here all use a strawman argument.

You all assume all women are the same. Some women put more emphasis on money, some more emphasis on comfort, some more emphasis on whatever it is.

Each girl prefers to be "loved" differently just as us guys prefer to have our dicks stroked a certain way.

You can be poor, but still possess value from your pure sense of will. That is what makes you a man, the desire to push on and to overcome. What makes a woman a woman is femininity, which is her devotion to her man. Those two work hand in hand.