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[–]hornwalker 41ポイント42ポイント  (60子コメント)

Teacher is an adult. Kid is a kid. End of discussion.

[–]TrepanationBy45 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Kids can't abuse either, amirite.

[–]hornwalker -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Of course kids can be evil, but generally speaking evil is a learned trait.

[–]ButtKyler -1ポイント0ポイント  (57子コメント)

This comment infuriates me so much.

[–]sanderson1650 0ポイント1ポイント  (56子コメント)

Why?

[–]ButtKyler 17ポイント18ポイント  (45子コメント)

Are you saying no kid has ever deserved to get smacked up side the head a few times? I am not saying to beat the shit out of children.

But saying that there is no discussion to be had about this video is insane.

[–]nini1423 39ポイント40ポイント  (27子コメント)

Bruh, she's his teacher, not his mom

[–]ButtKyler 7ポイント8ポイント  (25子コメント)

A teacher might as well be the kids mom. I bet the teacher sees him more than his parents do.

I am not making that statement about the kids skin color. All teachers see all kids for a huge chunk of time.

My teachers disciplined me when I was a kid. I got rulers to the knuckles and books to the head. And guess who stopped being a little dick in class and grew the fuck up?

Why is everybody all "save the kids" now...

No wonder this shit keeps happening.

[–]darkescaflowne 24ポイント25ポイント  (8子コメント)

Ya but your generation blows so why would we want to make another generation self entitled dickheads.

[–]KnockKnockKGB -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

We're turning out pretty well then, huh? Your comment in all its ignorance is proof of that.

[–]HorriBliss 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Lowest crime rate in decades, so aye, I'd say we are.

[–]Toof 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, I mean, they pretty clearly showed the correlation between leaded gas and violent crime in the US. Once they stopped that shit, people stopped punching each other so much.

[–]HorriBliss 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, but it's through a narrative between the teacher and mother that discipline is dealt. You don't hit the kid, but if he's a wee shite you let the parents know and hope that they discipline him.

My Mum hit me and my brothers/sisters when we needed it as kids, but it in no way effected how I treated my teachers. I was a bastard to them until I matured myself at about 14/15. If my teacher ever laid hands on me I'd've fucked their career so bad they'd find trouble getting employed at McDonald's. But that has more to do with knowing school policy and whatnot, and not particularly because I hated authority/my teachers

[–]literallydontcaree -3ポイント-2ポイント  (9子コメント)

Defening child abuse in schools, that's a new one.

[–]ButtKyler 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

That's the problem with shit now. People think disciplining a kid is abusing him.

http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/child-and-youth-protection/child-abuse-prevention/discipline-and-punishment-are-not-the-same.cfm

I am not going to argue on what this particular incident was. It seems to walk the line between the two. Her actions were in response to an inappropriate action. But she was clearly responding with anger.

[–]you-ole-polecat 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

books to the head

Yeah, that's not "discipline."

[–]SexyGoatOnline 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Fun fact, physical punishment has never been shown as more effective than verbal punishments or the removal of privileges.In fact, it is tied to a metric shit-ton of negative effects. If teachers smacking kids was effective, then you'd have a point, but it isn't so you don't. It's just assaulting a child. Just because they're young doesn't give people the right to physically hurt them.

[–]ButtKyler 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Can I see some sources for those claims?

[–]ButtKyler 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Also... I have said numerous times that I dont exactly agree with her responce.

All I am saying is there is a discussion to be had.

[–]iiARKANGEL -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Found the guy who doesn't understand how most of these kind of kids are ignored by their parents and don't give a fuck about school and treat all their teachers like shit.

No, she shouldn't have hit him. Yes, he probably did need it. This is how these kids skirt through school failing almost every class because there is literally no person in their life actually giving them any kind of direction, or correction when they go so far off course.

[–]magicmalek 4ポイント5ポイント  (16子コメント)

you're making no sense, if the kid needs to get "smacked up" it's not up to his teacher.

[–]ButtKyler 5ポイント6ポイント  (15子コメント)

If he is in her class room causing problems, yes, it is.

That teacher has a responsibility to educate 20 - 30 other students. And he (might have) been making that impossible. What is the teacher to do? Ruin the other 19 - 29 students education or TEACH the kid a lesson that his parents clearly wont teach him.

[–]Box_v2 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

She could have removed him from the class. I don't think the best option when a kid in class is being disruptive is to smack the shit outta him.

[–]ButtKyler -3ポイント-2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Last time a teacher tried that, the student refused to leave. Then a cop ended up throwing her across the room and this exact same thing happened on reddit. People freaked out and said it was never acceptable.

I agree that the head shots were a bit much, I am just not sure what would work better.

[–]beantheduck 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yes because that incident was the last time someone ever removed a kid from class. No other incident like that has occurred again since that one that had the average results of the student being removed from class. You have proved that it is impossible to safely remove students from class.

[–]ButtKyler 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

It was a turn of phrase.. The last time it was done in a way that reddit payed attention to.

[–]roomtemphotdog 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

The last time? Dude, teachers handle situations like this by escorting students out all the time. Nobody has the right to physically assault a child like that.

[–]literallydontcaree 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah you're right she had no choice but to smack him. Poor lady just had no options.

[–]magicmalek 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

what is the teacher to do? escort the student out? are you really that ignorant?

[–]ButtKyler 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyMsboBPecg

Tell me how that works out for you.

[–]magicmalek 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

yup and that officer was suspended I believe, anymore crappy examples?

[–]ButtKyler 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Lol I wasn't trying to make a point of the cop being correct I was actually doing the opposite. I was saying how last time somebody tried to escort a student from the classroom, it was made 10x worse.

Thanks for proving my point.

[–]nini1423 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (9子コメント)

He probably beats his kids

[–]ButtKyler 21ポイント22ポイント  (8子コメント)

Nope, don't have kids.

I'd just like have a discussion like an adult about a topic that keeps reoccurring. I never said I agreed with the teacher doing what she did. I also never said the student deserved it. All I said was, saying "End of discussion" before even having a discussion is pretty stupid.

There can be a lot to learn from these situations. As long as we fucking talk bout them. Find out what the kid did. Find out how long and why he was doing it. Find out what caused the teacher to snap. There are an unlimited amount of things to talk about with this.

But instead, people want to make it simple. people just want somebody to be wrong. So they pick the adult and wash our hands of it.

And that, is infuriating.

Edit: added the and why seeing as why would be a pretty vital part of working with the child.

[–]Uhkneeho 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

I was a problem child when I was that age, and my parents would have sworn up and down that they would have loved to see the teacher hit me like this, but you better believe that if any teacher had ever touched me like that I would have lost my mind and swung back. This isn't 40,50,60 years ago where the teacher slaps your knuckles with a ruler, and even if it were, would a fist upside the head REALLY be the preferred method of punishment?

[–]ButtKyler 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

I don't think a fist upside the head is the best option. I don't even think it is in the top 3 preferred options. What I don't know, is how effective any of those other options are. I'm not saying hitting the kid is effective. I just don't know for sure. I know it worked for me (I graduated school in 09 so I am not referring to the 'good ol days') but what works for me wont work for everybody.

[–]Uhkneeho 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

It won't and it didn't. I had no idea you'd be as young as you are, I thought this was something we swept out of the school system a long time ago. I dunno, I just feel like for every one kid that can handle a practice stranger putting their hands on you there's 10 kids like me who's brain takes that as a life or death threat. I can remember the last time my mom spanked me, the apparatus she used, and how long it hurt afterward, etc, and it's well over a decade since that happened. I don't respond well to violence or physical punishment.

[–]ButtKyler -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Did you learn to avoid the violence or physical punishment?

[–]Uhkneeho 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

No, I took it as a challenge or often didn't think of the consequences. Like I said I was a problem child.

[–]ShivaAllahOdinson -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Reminds me of Bill Burr's bit about domestic abuse.

[–]ButtKyler 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Starting at 2:19 is pure fucking gold.

Couldn't agree more.