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[–]Endorsed Contributor2comment 26ポイント27ポイント  (3子コメント)

Maybe it's the areas I'm in, but most of the tradcons I've met tend toward the born again virgsluts selling 4th hand goods at new retail prices. The more they make it the core of their identity, the more suspicious it gets.

The more legitimate ones seemed to have gotten married relatively early, they don't wait for the late 20s to be knocking on the door, let alone 30s.

[–]bokehnikon 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

The more legitimate ones seemed to have gotten married relatively early

I grew up on the East Coast, close to NYC, went to a big liberal state school. Then after college moved to a Bible Belt state and met tradcon types I never even knew existed. Every single one that seemed sincere already had a fiance by senior year of college.

[–]PlusGoody 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

THIS. 99% of the attractive traditional conservative women who are worthwhile are taken in their early 20s. The only ones who aren't are the ones who get it in their head that they need to establish a career, and those ones are taken by 27-28 at the very latest.

[–]MortalSisyphus 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep, a quality woman will almost never make it past 25 without being married.

But an even more important point is that the younger a woman is, the easier it is to influence her personality for the better.

[–]gu4po 33ポイント34ポイント  (1子コメント)

Whores are after your money. Good, conservative, Christian women are after your money and your soul.

[–]TomFoo 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jesus that's dark. And I totally believe.

[–]BananaHammie 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

As men we have to learn to be content in whatever situation we choose. A lot of people think the grass is always greener on the other side, but how many times have you listened to someone from the marriage 1.0 days bitch about it? Most would say many. Spin plates or don't, LTR or don't, marry or don't, have kids or don't it doesn't matter as long as you accept the risks and use TRP to learn from those before you and to make the appropriate steps towards your own happiness.

[–]MortalSisyphus 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

The mistake many make is thinking the path to happiness is found in pushing their Anger Phase to the absolute limit and becoming isolated sociopaths with a skewed view of women and reality in general.

At some point, a philosophy becomes so toxic that a stance of "you do you" is not the proper response.

[–]mojo_juju 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I disgaree

Traditional conservative bitch (trad trad con con) + Alpha = bitch will submit.

(that's why she's my bitch and we both know it = traditional conservative)

[–]Endorsed ContributorMentORPHEUS 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

Excellent write-up, Whisper. One thing I would advise, beware of harboring a Madonna-Whore complex.

Also, some women who identify as Trad/Con shift to an intractible "Sex is only for procreation" mode once they've locked down a husband. After a life of plate-spinning with whore types, don't assume that the label of "Traditional" means to her what it does to you; do your relationship due diligence.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper[S] 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

don't assume that the label of "Traditional" means to her what it does to you

You have anticipated the theme of "Avoiding the Tradcon Trap (Part Two)".

[–]toalysium 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If she's traditional enough then she won't mind a mistress or two*. The whole "preserve the family and external image at all costs" type.

*Two might be hard on the budget, cause the type of woman who only fucks to make babies probably isn't working either.

[–]1jb_trp 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have many men I went to college with who have Tradcon wives. And you know what? Too many of these men aren't happy. They've lost the vigor and life that they possessed only a decade earlier. They work long jobs, come home to a kind yet boring wife who does very little to add much of value to their wives. These men seem dead on the inside.

In an LTR be careful who you commit to. Your time and attention is the most valuable thing you possess. Wasting your life on someone who adds very little value to it (other than that she's "conservative" and makes a decent partner) is still a complete waste IMHO.

There would be more LTRs if most women these days had more to offer than a warm hole between their legs. But it's 2016 and that's not the age we live in.

[–]casablanca_1942 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

If she says she's "saving it for marriage", or "only has sex in a relationship", laugh it off, treat it as ASD, and escalate the same way.

"saving it for marriage": Why are you wasting your time? Eject ASAP!

"only has sex in a relationship": Classic. It means she will give it up fast for an alpha, but will delay for a beta. She doesn't want the beta to see her as a slut, but doesn't care if the alpha sees her that way. You are an alpha - right? Proceed as normal.

[–]TRP VanguardYouDislikeMyOpinion 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

"only has sex in a relationship": Classic. It means she will give it up fast for an alpha, but will delay for a beta.

Besides the fact that this happens so much, maybe she really does only have sex in relationships.

You only have to look out the window and see that it's raining pussy.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

"saving it for marriage": Why are you wasting your time? Eject ASAP!

Why would you take anything a woman says seriously?

I've banged plenty of girls who were "saving it for marriage". Sometimes only to find out they were saving their seconds for marriage. Or their thirds.

[–]RealGucciSosa 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

What many men fail to realize is that the problem with women isn't because of feminism, its because of gynocentrism. Society protects & rewards women for bad behavior, and a Tradcon is just as solipsistic as any feminist or empowered slut. You correctly point out, marriage is a liability no matter who you marry, as long as its society whose not doing its due diligence in preserving the marriage or family unit.

[–]unseen1unknown 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ive been having the same thoughts about this as well. Ive started going to a traditional catholic church recently for reasons unrelated to trp and its good seeing so many young couples with kids there. However i cant bring myself to risk everything after learning so much on trp regarding marriage and women in general

[–]boredgod 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Going the same route with participation in a traditional church. It's grating on me, the reality I know and have experienced through TRP and the dictates of the faith. I'm going to make it a point to carefully observe all the marriages I see there, especially those which seem to be the best.

[–]unseen1unknown 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've allready seen trouble with one couple that are engaged. The chick said to her sister whilst i was talking to them that she still hadn't had a talk with her soon to be husband about her hyphenating her last name when they get married. RP sense went off at that statement

[–]TRP VanguardYouDislikeMyOpinion 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The tradcon woman who says "Marry/commit to me before sex" is attempting to buy her way to the top of the Hierarchy with nothing more than a promise. And anyone can say anything.

That's exactly what it is. A promise of sex for participation in a financial contract. If you're making a choice to go for that, you're taking on risk. You deal with your own risk. Nothing wrong with choosing to have to take on less risk and be more sure of your investment (the girl). Maybe the problem is that you are unable to find the latter and so you go for the former. If that is the case, the problem exists in yourself and there are things you can do to find yourself in a position where that problem is fixed.

If you still want to take on that risk, that's on you. You can't blame anyone for your fucked up future if it goes that route. You're in a community right now where men around the world are learning how to live better lives. No excuses.

Maybe you'll throw the dice and hit the jackpot. Who knows. Do you want to take the risk?

[–]submitted_5_days_ago 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Human behavior is guided by either Reward for Good Behavior or Punishment for Bad Behavior.

Who controls them has great influence on people.

The Fundamental Principle states that women are the gatekeepers of sex, and men are the gatekeepers of relationships.

A man rewards a woman for her good behaviors by giving commitment, or he punishes her by not giving it.

A woman, instead, rewards a man by giving him sex, or she punishes him by not giving it.

The key lays on who controls sex and who controls commitment.

There is no law that enforces women to give sex, but there exist social and legal laws that pushes men to provide commitment.

The Game is rotten for men because men have not full control on their reward and punishment system like women have full control on hers.

[–]Thenextprince 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Honestly, I may be young but I don't think I'll ever achieve that point where I want more than sex from a chick. I just wanna fuck, then I want them to leave me alone.

Also, regarding the trust, isn't it just simpler to never trust a woman? We know how decietful a gender they are.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

/u/Whisper isn't saying you can trust women. On the contrary.

The Red Pill in general assumes that women are not trustworthy because of their evolved tendencies for opportunism.

The Bitch Management Guide is a set of rules no different than a store requiring that you pay at the register before walking out.

A woman pays you in time, attention, and investment FIRST, and then she gets to have time, attention, and investment from you. When you have to pay upfront, no trust is needed.

[–]Thenextprince 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh okay, I miss understood. Love your writings by the way, great stuff fam.

[–]toalysium 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ok... I want to give you some advice since I see you're young, and you can google this shit to confirm that I'm really not intending to insult you, got it?

Advice: Don't say "fam". Just don't. It's a minimum wage mutation of a word. Your vocabulary has a serious effect on your thoughts and ability to articulate them. A limited vocabulary will limit everything in your life. Jobs, relationships, education.

Read more, and I mean books written by people who can afford an editor and a publisher. Write more, not only texts or social media posts. Write something important and meaningful. Seriously write a story or a letter to a newspaper editor.

Listen to people who never read other than Facebook or texts, then go listen to an oral argument record from the Supreme Court of the US. Now guess who's not ever going to have their words recorded in the Library of Congress? The people who say "fam".

This has been a PSA from someone who went from a GED at 16 to a J.D. You ever want some help editing something you wrote shoot me a PM.

[–]Senior Contributordeepthrill 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Great post as always.

I find that the tradcon women can be good, but are usually wearing the ultimate fake makeup - they would rather spend their time talking about how cute but dedicated/loyal they are instead of demonstrating it.

I find another "class" of women, for lack of a better word, these days are the hardworking women. They are the ones who had to take their own student loans out, and work in the student center to barely pay her rent. Or the one who never feels entitled but works hard.

While this woman is seemingly great (at least her actions show dedication to something rather than just words), the risk of this woman is that she may not feel like she needs man since she works so hard. Ideally you'd want to look for the tradcon girl who shows dedication to her work, but not in a corporate, competitive environment, and one who values family over her own work.

Just been my anecdotal experience with archetypes of women.

[–]Il128 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have friends from college who married women like these. One has never had anal sex and another hasn't had anal and hasn't gotten a blow job in the last 25 years.

Think I'll pass.

[–]Matt_G_the_G 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here's the problem. If a girl is truly a "traditiona conservative," she wilm SAVE HER VIRGINITY FOR MARRIAGE, not just "keep a low N count" as you put it.

I hear guys on here talk a lot about girls with a "low N count." How many dicks can she have taken before yours? How many other men's sperm can she have pumped into her body and have it not bother you? 3? If she took 3 dicks before you, is that too many? How about5 dicks? Still consider that a "low N count?" How about 10 penises? 15 penises? 20 penises? At what point has she taken too many cocks?

In my opinion, 1 other man's cock is too many other men's cocks. We're talking about the woman you are going to MARRY. The woman you will start a family with. Assuming you want your daughter to save herself for marriage, what will you tell her when she asks "did mommy have a boyfriend before you, daddy?" Will you lie to her and say no, or will you tell her the truth and risk having her think sleeping around is ok "because mommy did it too"?

What happens when you are explaining to your teenage son that he should look for a virginal girl to wife up, and he says "you mean like you and mom?" Will you not feel a sense of deep shame having to choose between lying to your son and explaining to him that no, daddy was not mommy's first lover?

Assumimg you consider yourself a "traditional" person looking for a "traditional" wife, "low N count" just doesn't cut it. "Low N count" means she has taken several dicks, but just not as many as your average slut. Sorry, but that's not saying much.

[–]Rearranger_ -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Y'all think that you want a piece of ass that you don't have to work for, with maid service included. But the truth is that you'll get bored of it real fast. Sure, it's a nice toy to have, but what value does she bring?

You need a woman who challenges you, in such a way that develops you into a better person. That is the trait you should be looking for. Along with loyalty, respect, attraction, ect.

[–]NPK5667 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Idk. Def true in alot of circumstances. But for instance my parents are pretty conservative. My mom is really trad/con, but quirky in her own way. Anyways, theyre small business owners. Just constantly working their asses off then partying when they can in their free time. Theyre cool people, i think some circumstances can work, as long as the people have their main focus pinned down. For my rents it was raising us kids and running the business. No time for other bullshit.

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