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Mark Levin just announced he is officially #NeverTrump » The Right Scoop (therightscoop.com)

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[–]TreadNotOnMeConstitutional Conservative [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

In the business of talk radio, before this election cycle, I was considering whom I enjoyed listening to religiously, more so than anyone else. A few names came to mind - Rush, Hannity, Mark Levin (I used to listen to that core of three with my dad back in the late-2000s), Larry Elder (somewhat of a Libertarian), and Ben Shapiro, but I realized they all had their own niches. Each is fantastic in his own right, although I feel Hannity has strayed a little, and to this day, I continue to listen to Rush and Levin when I get the chance - Rush for his excellent analysis into the deeper plane of daily issues...and /u/MarkRLevin for his unbridled, unapologetic, principled conservative philosophy that most mirrors my own beliefs.

As conservatives, we don't believe in idol worship or cult of personality like Leftists and big-government Republicans do. This is why I've always been wary of "endorsing" candidates, because I think doing so puts people in danger of sacrificing conservative ideology in the defense of a person. However, when someone as principled as Levin endorses Cruz, I know that if he ever steps off the path of conservatism, Levin will ream him out, because we stand for liberty, and liberty doesn't take a backseat to any one man or his ideas.

I respect Mark greatly for deciding that he will not vote for Trump. If conservatives don't show that we are the base of the Party, that the Party needs to cater to us more than once a generation (Coolidge, Goldwater, Reagan), that we will no longer continue to hold our nose and vote for just any Republican...if we do not take a stand, then we will never have the chance to put forth a principled conservative. I'm proud to join Mark in the #NeverTrump movement.

[–]___ok [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Hannity... I don't know what happened to him. I think he sold his soul for a ratings boost. He was always borderline unlistenable using Rush as a lead in instead of doing his own thing, now I just listen to a podcast when he's on.

[–]Roez [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Hannity has been burning the candle at both ends for a very long time now. He does TV, Radio and tours often. It seems like his material, his monologues, etc., are intellectually thin and not very insightful. I haven't really enjoyed his show going on probably six or more years, but I do listen sometimes because it's the only talk radio show in my area besides ESPN.

It might serve Hannity well to step back and only do radio or TV, so he can spend more time actually researching, reading and focusing on substance.

[–]ThatJimKid [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I catch his radio show regularly almost daily because it's available and lands in the late middle of the work day. That being said some segments of his radio show is literally him and 2 or 3 guests with different affiliations or dissenting views arguing one topic. And it always just degrades to everyone loud speaking on their podium, it makes for some horrific radio and provides no substance. Not to mention his guests are sometimes some real knuckleheads, but that happens on more radio shows than not.

[–]RC_5213 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Yeah, I had a period where I had to listen to Hannity instead of Rush on my way home due to class schedules and it was the worst.

There's just so much more to be found in Rush and Levin's shows in terms of content and analysis. Also, I find Rush and Levin tend to gel more with my values than Hannity does (especially these days).

[–]wolfman1911 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Also, one thing that bothered me about Hannity is that he seems more interested in arguing with liberals, arguing, mind, not debating, than he is in articulating conservative philosophy.

[–]tdt0005 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I had been listening to mostly Levin until I discovered Glenn Beck's show. I switched to him as my primary show just because he was already NeverTrump and spent more time breaking down how awful he was. It's also just a little less serious of a show and less draining to listen to for 3 hours. I still listen to and love Mark, but I can't listen to all 3 hours every day.

[–]Im_Rick_Grimes [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I also enjoy Beck. If you can get past the doomsday and sentimentality stuff, there's actually a lot of good info to be found. That and I find his format to be the most entertaining. Pat, Stu & Jeffy are awesome. If I could listen to them mock each other for 3 hours as I drive, I'd be OK with that. Much preferable to listening to Sean just complain about scandals while fellating Trump.

[–]Jive_Bob [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah but Beck huffs his own farts.

[–]IronPathologistSowellian Buckleyite [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

Welcome aboard! /u/MarkRLevin - /r/NeverTrump!

[–]pcarenza [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Time to break out the good stuff!

[–]ScootusBuckeye [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

Fuck ya. Glad he can see how slimy and repulsive Trump, his surrogates, and his supporters (of which many are apparently ACTUAL shills based on the recent articles I've seen) are.

EDIT: Aww I hurt some Trumpkin's feelings. You wanna sue me like your daddy Donald?

[–]jackdmorgan [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I mean, slimy and repulsive is pretty harsh for people who might, for all you know, support trump because of his positions on border security and immigration. Those are conservative positions.

[–]DanburyBaptistInalienable Rights of Conscience [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Trump isn't about border security, he's about trying to immortalize himself by spending gobs of money on a massive building project that has his name plastered all over it forever. You really need to understand everything he does in light first and foremost of his colossal ego. He doesn't care about the nation and he doesn't care about immigration. Just a couple years ago, he was criticizing Romney of all people for being too tough on immigration.

[–]yzass [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Welcome to the party pal!

[–]Hootja [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

What happened? He's been saying on his show for almost 4 weeks now that he would vote for Trump over Hillary and Bernie. I think he even said it yesterday. What changed between yesterday and now? Even though I'm a Cruz supporter, I'm kind of disappointed by this. Trump is better than Hillary and Bernie put together.

[–]Roez [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

It has to do with a Roger Stone, Daily Caller opinion piece.

The article accuses Levin of hating on Trump because he's paid to, and effectively being establishment. Citing some large book purchase through some Super PAC. Roger Stone is obviously a Trump supporter, and maybe even paid too. A few other Trump supporters have now piled on, basically suggesting anyone who attacks Trump is part of some larger paid conspiracy.

Levin said --that's a short clip of his radio broadcast today--his books were purchased a few years ago, as some program to promote Conservatism (or something like this). The Super PAC has endorsed Cruz, but it's been around and has had other purposes long before that.

[–]ArizonaJohnReagan Conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I would like my conspiracy check now. It's really late this month

[–]ScootusBuckeye [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He said in the clip on the website. He got attacked by Trump's associate Roger Stone as an establishment shill (with 0 evidence because that is how Stone operates, similarly to Trump, make an outlandish or even not truthful claim with no evidence for attention). Trump's supporters have ate it up and attacked him on Twitter and what not like they always do, his surrogates like Savage and Coulter disgust him, Levin just does not like the way Trump plays the game. He thinks Trump and his movement is immoral and cannot stand behind it perverting the movement he worked so hard for.

[–]DanburyBaptistInalienable Rights of Conscience [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

After all the dirty tactics Trump has sullied the primaries with and all the damage he has tried to do to his opponents, I can think of few people who I support less than Trump. No way would I ever vote for him, no matter who is running against him. As I've said before, if he gets nominated, I'm going to do what I can to make sure both he and Hillary never get to 50%.

[–]pcarenza [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Glad he finally came to his senses. IT was only a matter of time before he converted. The more exposure to Trump reasonable thinking people get, the further they want him from the presidency.

[–]aCreditGuru#NEVERTRUMP [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yes welcome!

[–]huhwhat90Establishment Sell-out [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Excellent! We need more strong voices like Levin's!

[–]TangAlpha [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

Which other "pig" host is he referring too? Is there insight there?

[–]Renegade_Republican [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

If I had to guess, I'd say Michael Savage

[–]GaroldWilsonSnailJrConstitutional Conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Out of curiosity, why is that? I don't know much about him.

[–]CherryCokeNixonBuckleyite Conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Without any context, I'd assume Michael Savage

[–]GoatTemplarLion Ted[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I do like how he called out Coulter. She's intolerable.

[–]DanburyBaptistInalienable Rights of Conscience [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Couldn't agree more.

[–]FartisticLicense [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He's definitely referring to Weiner Nation

[–]Clatsopvincit omnia veritas [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

Holy crap! I can't wait to watch tonight's LevinTV !!!

First /r/TedCruzForPresident and then /u/MarkRLevin for SCOTUS !!!

[–]IronPathologistSowellian Buckleyite [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

Psst. We want someone a little younger.

[–]Clatsopvincit omnia veritas [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

That's just one of hopefully 2-3 he'd get to select. Plus, don't forget about modern medicine increasing life-spans.

How about Mike Lee as the second?

[–]IronPathologistSowellian Buckleyite [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

Haha - I'm sort of being facetious - Levin's said he'd never accept it, IIRC.

But I'm all on the Mike Lee SCOTUS train. Personally, I think he's a valuable 2024 candidate for the presidency, though.

[–]TreadNotOnMeConstitutional Conservative [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

Or Rand if we can teach him how to foreign policy

[–]tdt0005 [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

I love Rand, but what is his issue with Cruz?

[–]ScootusBuckeye [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Cruz isn't as libertarian as Rand, plain and simple. Rand wants to reduce military spending and government surveillance. Cruz wants to increase military spending and hasn't firmly opposed measures like the Apple Bernandino case and has advocated things like the police patrolling Muslim neighborhoods thing which comes across as really scary with no nuance.

It'd be nice to get a libertarian conservative, but it seems like Cruz is the best bet as of right now. Rand hasn't endorsed Trump or Kasich either, so like many of us it sounds like he's just disenfranchised in general at the choices.

[–]DanburyBaptistInalienable Rights of Conscience [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

really scary with no nuance

I disagree. I've heard him go into detail on that, and not only is it reasonable, it's actually already happening under Obama.

[–]IronPathologistSowellian Buckleyite [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Agreed. He's being pretty politically savvy with it. By "patrol" he means "contribute to an intelligence framework such as already exists, and strengthen it". You need Muslim cooperation to get the radicals - he wants to improve that process and not be afraid of the typical PC taboo in engaging our clandestine services there.

[–]ScootusBuckeye [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

That's why I said with no nuance. At face value it sounds bad.

[–]DanburyBaptistInalienable Rights of Conscience [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I gotcha. I thought you were saying his position itself had no nuance.

[–]Ragnar__DanneskjoldConservatarian [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I just wanna take this moment to recommend Buck Sexton of The Blaze to anyone who is looking for a great conservative/libertarian talk radio show. The podcasts are free and he's a very very intelligent young man. He spent some time overseas with the CIA as part of the counterterrorism department, then also worked for the NYPD counterterrorism unit before being hired by The Blaze. His shows tend to be more of the hard content and fact types shows and less of the soaring rhetoric and general principles type shows that you hear on other talk radio programs. He does entire programs where he delves into the history of issues, such as Islamic terrorism, and has talked for an hour and a half straight about the Battle of Lapanto or the Barbary Pirates. It's very much a thinking man's show more so than the emotional boost that you get when you hear someone like Rush or Mark talking. He's 33 so he was in college not too long ago as well and he has a lot of good insight about the SJW scourge and insane campus policies. He's a strict free market capitalist, opposes the war on drugs, and has utterly dissected socialism, feminism and other leftist ideals from a really fact-based dispassionate standpoint on numerous occasions. He's also been tapped on several occasions to sub for Rush on the EID as well as Mark and Sean I believe. He's definitely and up and comer in the conservative talk radio arena and one to watch and listen to for decades to come. Like I said, if you're looking for a show from someone with a razor sharp mind who does conservative talk with a real buts and bolts numbers and dates perspective, I'd recommend giving Buck Sexton a listen.

[–]RyanBlueThunder [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

This is fantastic news, and quite surprising given how Levin was speaking on Tuesday afternoon.

As a member of the #NEVERTRUMP movement, I think it is vital that those of us who will not be voting for Trump should he win the nomination, we all still must do everything we can to vote (and encourage other conservatives to vote) for our state and local representatives. We cannot stay home and risk losing the House, Senate and local elections. If Trump wins the nomination there's a good likelihood that he will lose to Hillary, but if everyone stays home that could mean losing the legislature (and the ability to fight for our courts as well).

[–]pcarenza [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm doing exactly that should Trump win the nomination. But I'm hopeful that he won't.

[–]CarolinaPunk#NEVERTRUMP [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

THE FIRE RISES!

/r/NeverTrump

i wonder if he wants flair.

[–]DRKMSTR [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I won't be #nevertrump

Why? I'm for someone, not against someone.

I'm all for Cruz.

[–]VirginWizard69Revanchist Conservative [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

So if it comes down to Trump vs. Hillary, he won't vote for Trump?

[–]pipechapLibertarian Conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So if it comes down to Trump vs. Hillary, he won't vote for Trump Hillary?

Fixed.

[–]jackdmorgan [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So Levin is more worried about his personal reputation taking a hit based on an obscure article than keeping Hillary out? After he just talked about how horrible Hillary would be?