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[–]punkswcleankitchens 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

gr8 b8 m8

[–]Prince_Kropotkin -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have you been like a thousand times more funny and easygoing lately, or was I just a huge dick previously?

[–]_Dances_With_Trolls_ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

if it ain't broke, fix it until it is

[–]SpaceHeeder 0ポイント1ポイント  (20子コメント)

Oppose.

He got the top position during a coup ... against the previous group of mods

This is not even a possible explanation. Mods that are on lower rungs cannot "coup" against mods that were there first. The only ways sync could have become top mod are if the people above him deleted their accounts, got shadow-banned, or stepped down.

and has refused to relinquish his power

There is no term limit for any mod. Proposals to remove bad or inactive mods have taken place in the past. This is not the first proposal to suggest that sync step down. Until you have the votes, they are under no obligation to place your judgement on their ability to continue over their own.

he also has a long story of defending abusive users like bourgie liberal and fascist sympathiser /u/min_thamee

Min had a ban reversed by sync when it was undertaken pre-emptively by another mod even though it didn't have the support of the community. Min was later banned when there were enough votes to ban them.

and liberal /r/drama troll /u/prince_kropotkin

Numerous ban threads have been created for PK, and none of them have reached the consensus threshold required to institute a ban.

he also defends zionists and israel sympathisers like /u/Rvannith to the point that Voltairinede resigned their position

There were not enough votes to uphold /u/Rvannith's ban. That's the only reason why it was reversed.

In all three of these cases, your problem is that sync upheld the consensus rules instead of deferring to people who didn't have enough votes to get their way properly. In the case of min, a case was built and the user was eventually banned. In the other cases, that has not happened. The fact that this hasn't been dropped despite an utter dearth of new evidence against either user reflects an unreasonable sense of entitlement and unjustified sense of ownership that you feel over this space. If strong support from the community isn't with you, then you don't get to kick people out just-'cause until it is. You'd be better off creating your own subreddit to get what you're after.

other gems from sync include the demodding of cosmic because she dared, dared to remove abusive people from the sub and create a safe place for the marginalized and banning her entirely when she rightfully protested.

You mean when cosmic acted unilaterally without making ban proposal or transparency threads, or acting in defiance of their results? Or how sync later offered to re-mod cosmic, only to be unable to do so when they managed to get themselves shadowbanned for violating Reddit's sitewide rules against harassment?

the only way to unfuck this community is to demod him and appoint someone who actually knows what the fuck they are doing.

If you think the consensus rules should be changed, propose to change them. The last time someone (me) did that, the community strengthened protections for individuals against hasty bannings. I look forward to reading your reasoned arguments for why this and other such protections should be rolled back.

[–]ZombieBerkman 0ポイント1ポイント  (17子コメント)

I don't know anything about this drama, but I just want to say fuck democracy. If ppl here are voting to keep a Zionist around, this just proves that anarchism isn't compatible with democracy; anarchism will always be subverted by liberals that want a return to status quo. If we let the majority opinion silence the minority, it's already too late for anarchism to gain a foothold.

If you think the consensus rules should be changed, propose to change them. The last time someone (me) did that, the community strengthened protections for individuals against hasty bannings.

I propose you change them. Allowing people to vote for oppression is fucking weak. Only closet capitalists believe in majority rule.

[–]SpaceHeeder 1ポイント2ポイント  (14子コメント)

There was some ambiguity over whether or not rvannith supported the actually-existing-capital-s-State-of-Israel. They said they were willing to back down from their position of it meant being able to continue participating here.

The vote was a reflection of the fact that accusing someone of being a Problematic Zionist, and evidence of someone actually being a Problematic Zionist, are not always congruent. If you want to know why the vote went down the way that it did, I suggest you look back for the thread.


EDIT to address your edit.

Allowing people to vote for oppression is fucking weak. Only closet capitalists believe in majority rule.

But who will watch the watchmen? Who gets to decide what actually is oppressive? The structure of Reddit requires that subreddits that don't want to get overwhelmed with spam and trolls have to have moderators, and subreddits that don't want their moderators to be petty dictators need to have clear rules and accountability. The consensus rules limiting moderator powers are an awkward, but necessary, compromise.

[–]ZombieBerkman -1ポイント0ポイント  (13子コメント)

Google forms of oppression. Then add anti anarchist concepts to the lists that come up. Obviously imperialist nationalism qualifies on an anarchist forum.

Link me to the thread with the Zionist, idk how to find it.

[–]SpaceHeeder 0ポイント1ポイント  (12子コメント)

Google forms of oppression.

I can't tell if you're deliberately missing my point.

Link me to the thread

It's here.

[–]ZombieBerkman 0ポイント1ポイント  (11子コメント)

My point is that oppression isn't in the eye of the beholder. It's clearly defined.

[–]SpaceHeeder 1ポイント2ポイント  (10子コメント)

And yet has to be subjectively observed. There needs to be accountability when people report false positives, or when the punishment doesn't fit the crime, etc.

[–]ZombieBerkman [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

Uh.. The user is an anti-German? And called people anti semetic for opposing the head of the Israeli state's secret service..?? And you lot voted to keep this user around? That's just... Wow.

Are you an anarchist? Why are you so staunch in defending the prime directive of liberal politics? Next you'll be advocating for free speech.

I'm kind of confused about this place now.

[–]SpaceHeeder [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

And they backed down when they saw that the community was against them. Are we not supposed to change peoples' minds?

[–]ZombieBerkman [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

When it's a lesser form of oppression, like using the word "bitch". But obviously not in that case. I saw they were deleting all their racist comments to escape being banned. You don't come back from fascism, idk how anyone here could ever trust that user. If this were a real anarchist space, all you blokes making excuses for a Zionist would be tossed out without any debate.

[–]removesyncthrowaway[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

reactionary pieces of shit will always be reactionary pieces of shit

they won't change, they have to be removed

[–]Hannibal_Lecturer [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

I was just about to say that even obvious trolls like the OP can do damage because there are a lot of people who have no clue about what's going on and can form the wrong opinion but then I saw that you are a day old sock... Nice concern trolling. /u/SpaceHeeder you're wasting your breath.

And for everyone else, no, the user in question was not a zionist by any stretch of the imagination and his connection to the anti-german movement was very selective. The whole proposal was a joke and it only got traction because the OP embedded a bunch of photos of completely random, unrelated anti-germans waving Israeli flags and posited that the user in question also supported Israel.

Edit for visibility: Note the back and forth between the socks in this thread, that's a pretty standard stirner_sniffed_dope aka ludabug move https://www.reddit.com/r/metanarchism/comments/2iao3c/crabs_are_friends_is_definitely_a_sock_of_stirner/

[–]ZombieBerkman [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ok? Nice way to treat new users. Why is everyone here so hostile? I'm not "concern trolling", I'm discussing the merits of democracy (or the lack thereof). I don't care about the mod drama.

You obviously have no clue about the anti-German movement and the user was caught in the act of removing racist anti-Palestinian, pro-Israel comments. Why on earth would you defend this person?

The way you're calling anti-zionism a joke is, quite frankly, revolting to me. I don't know how I stumbled into this genocide-enabling liberal den, but I'll show myself out.

[–]Prince_Kropotkin 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

this just proves that anarchism isn't compatible with democracy

"Voting didn't go how I want, fuck democracy it doesn't work"

[–]ZombieBerkman 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What are you kidding? Of course democracy doesn't work, look around you; look at your miserable life under the brutal oppressive system that democracy has spurred. And what's with the sarcastic fakequotes? Don't be an asshole.

[–]removesyncthrowaway[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

This is not even a possible explanation. Mods that are on lower rungs cannot "coup" against mods that were there first. The only ways sync could have become top mod are if the people above him deleted their accounts, got shadow-banned, or stepped down.

yes. yes he did. he seized power during a coup against the previous top mods.

There is no term limit for any mod. Proposals to remove bad or inactive mods have taken place in the past. This is not the first proposal to suggest that sync step down. Until you have the votes, they are under no obligation to place your judgement on their ability to continue over their own.

I think it's pretty clear his fellow mods hate him and his moderation style

You mean when cosmic acted unilaterally without making ban proposal or transparency threads, or acting in defiance of their results? Or how sync later offered to re-mod cosmic, only to be unable to do so when they managed to get themselves shadowbanned for violating Reddit's sitewide rules against harassment?

cosmic was removing oppressive trash that violated the aop, she never did anything wrong. sync just had it in for cosmic and pushed his bureaucratic bullshit on her to remove her and silenced the opposition

If you think the consensus rules should be changed, propose to change them. The last time someone (me) did that, the community strengthened protections for individuals against hasty bannings. I look forward to reading your reasoned arguments for why this and other such protections should be rolled back.

hahahahahhaha

the consensus rules were changed by the concern trolls that sync has let take over met@ thanks to the many people driven away by the people he protects

saying that is worthless

it doesn't help that sync is a piece of shit manarchist victim blamer who hides beyond bullshit like "oh reddit has a block feature" give me a fucking break he just wants his freeze peach

[–]SpaceHeeder [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Sync was already one of the top mods before that "coup," the whole community was angry, and he personally oversaw the appointment of new mods the community wanted. All of this is evident from actually reading the contents of the links you offer up as "evidence." Are you hoping no one fact checks you?

[–]Hannibal_Lecturer 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

lel

For the uninitiated, check spaceheeder's answer

[–]-Enkara-Literally Thought Police - weeewoooweewooo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'll support this every time.