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[–]Kingbobby19 45ポイント46ポイント  (44子コメント)

This is really interesting. Why does he have the police all made at him?

[–]shda5582 84ポイント85ポイント  (23子コメント)

Basically he was documenting and proving a massive pattern of corruption within the Fresno PD.

[–]Glassclose 47ポイント48ポイント  (22子コメント)

what he was doing was showing how the Fresno PD were looking up user's info, I believe on the fresno bee, for comments that were 'against' Fresno PD, then they would come and stop by your home harassing people on why they said what they did.

[–]Cult_of_BBW 12ポイント13ポイント  (20子コメント)

Also that they would drive around low income parts of town and run license plates looking for people with warrants

[–]garybeard 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

It was going into walmart in low income areas and running plates on private property then waiting for people as they came out of walmart and then getting them. Often for minor things like unpaid fines

[–]sons_of_many_bitches 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why is this actually illegal?

[–]garybeard 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because it is private property and also a form of enforcement aimed entirely at poor folks, most of whom just had outstanding fines and the like. It was predatory revenue raising

[–]1357anon 7ポイント8ポイント  (16子コメント)

That's bad?

[–]elmer_the_arse 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Recently a guy had a decades old warrant for failing to return a video tape to a rental shop that closed a decade ago.

If the police are corrupt then they have a hold on politically weak neighborhoods and can collude with prosecutors and judges to harass the population and extract a hefty income from it. Look up the number of warrants, arrests, seizures and court fees instituted by the Ferguson criminal-justice system.

[–]Burning_Kobun 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

"you're poor and no one is going to give a fuck if we go our of our way to target you over everyone else."

[–]big_fred 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

If they have warrants then they've already broken the law somehow so...

[–]unusedthought 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

If they have warrants then they've already broken the law somehow so...

Failure to appear at a traffic ticket hearing is plenty enough for a warrant. When they show up at your door, why not have them try to rattle it up to a resisting arrest, failure to comply, assaulting an officer, and any other charges they can slap up to make sure that horrible deviant of society is locked away for a while?

[–]589547521563 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's bad?

[–]EnterTheStory 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes. It means they can target any random person. Find the simplest, smallest infraction (such as 1 MPH over the speed limit). Use that to escalate to the next level (maybe you do know know all the laws, so fail to jump through the right hoop), which then escalates to the next level, etc. By this means anybody they want can be in jail or dead, with no need to even plant evidence: it's all perfectly legal.

[–]Burning_Kobun 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

my point still stands. this is a shitty system because it allows people with more money to get away with more.

[–]1357anon 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or maybe it's just an efficient use of limited police resources. If you looked at a map of people with warrants, would you go to where they're all clustered regardless of race or class?

[–]RealRickSanchez 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

After being targeted himself, he documented that the police were doing this:

  1. The police were going to poor grocery stores.

  2. Using plate scanners to scan for prior criminal history in the parking lot.

  3. Gathering a list of cars to target then parking down the street.

  4. Pulling over the targeted cars for Bulls shit reasons.

  5. Arresting and ticketing the targets.

According to him, the department ruined his marriage and life by targeting him. There is a video on his YouTube. He asked for people on Facebook to come stay with him and bring guns because he thought someone from the pol8ce department was going to make an attempt on his life. Then he died a couple weeks later. Reddit all ready called that it would be a "suicide."

[–]l8_8l 44ポイント45ポイント  (12子コメント)

he was actively trying to expose police corruption

[–]LibertyIsNotFree -1ポイント0ポイント  (11子コメント)

If I was him I would have been sleeping with my AR full of hollowpoints clutched to my chest every night. I also would've lined my house with tin cans on strings so I'd be woken up by intruders

[–]comet3popeye 12ポイント13ポイント  (6子コメント)

You could buy some dogs.

Or go the home alone route.

[–]andee510 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

I have really bad news for you. Cops shoot your dog right after they bust your door down :(

[–]comet3popeye -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's not really bad news for me, but thanks for caring.

[–]xStaabOnMyKnobx 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's illegal to booby trap your own property.

[–]fatboyroy 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

100% true. While in some jurisdictions it isn't illegal to do it, it is illegal when someone gets hurt or killed.

[–]xStaabOnMyKnobx 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah I should have specified. It's not explicitly illegal but it is not a valid defense of yourself or your property.

Which is a shame because I'm sure we'd all like to have a few boobies in the yard...juuuuust in case

[–]comet3popeye 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Which really begs the question... why the fuck are they called boobie traps?

[–]Yoko9021Ono 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

What a silly thing to say. You've never been in this situation and you don't know how you'd react.

If you want to imagine that sleeping with an AR and setting up tincans would save you, go ahead. In reality it just means you'd have an entire swat team show up, blow you away, then characterize you as a terrorist with an AR who opened fire first.

[–]theedgewalker 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

When the men in black clothes and dark sunglasses show up in the unmarked van, it's time to nope the fuck out of there.

[–]cjackc 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Imagine how much money would would be spending on metal between the tin cans, the aluminum foil hats, and the,copper to build a faraday cage.

[–]ChumleesCumRag [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

And all that metal does nothing to stop the nano bots they spread through the chem trails.

[–]DavidChristen 10ポイント11ポイント  (5子コメント)

Is known that he exposed Fresno PD for their illegal police practices. They would roam grocery store parking lots running people's plates. They had marked cars near the lots ready to pull people over once they left the store. They specifically targeted poor neighborhoods.

[–]RadarOreily -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Which kind of makes sense. Registered owner of the vehicle has a warrant? Rather than confront them in a packed parking lot, wait until they are down an empty road, them pull them over and do a legal arrest to take them into custody.

[–]DavidChristen 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's illegal. They don't wait in the parking lots because that's private property.

[–]wolfraisedbysheep 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

How do some cities get away with those automatic plate scanners that scan every car the cop car passes?

(I'm not supporting that practice at all, just wondering why that is allowed, if Fresno PD was breaking the law by running plates manually)

[–]Burning_Kobun 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

because they make damn good revenue generators.

[–]cjackc -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unless Walmart allows it, and seeing as how the police are called to most Walmarts at least once a day, I'm sure they are fine with it, or they could do it when called there/

[–]Trelifaxx1640 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I remember when this story was circulating back in January: He was a police accountability activist.

[–]TooMuchTuna223 154ポイント155ポイント  (26子コメント)

Well. That is absolutely fucked.

[–]Denmark1976 71ポイント72ポイント  (17子コメント)

Ill add it to my list of officially recognized "suicides" and "accidents" by the authorities of dissidents.

[–]TooMuchTuna223 57ポイント58ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's funny because if this happened in Russia you know damn well the American government/media would have something to say about it

[–]jest3rxD 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's not unique to America. It's easier to criticize a foreign nation.

[–]phiz36 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'd like to see that list.

[–]VolatileLemons 6ポイント7ポイント  (7子コメント)

How many pages long is that list by now? Surely it must look like a novel.

[–]Denmark1976 10ポイント11ポイント  (6子コメント)

It is growing, no doubt about it, not per say a list, more like a small collection of anecdotes. Quite colorful. Suicide by nail gun (creative), magic tricks gone wrong (totally unlikely) and freakishly unlikely accidents (not even remotely likely). The suicide rate among certain US dissidents is (apparently) extremely high, almost as high as the rate of ISIS suicide squad, if you believe the official narrative. The methods of suicide and the nature of the accidents is also quite colorful.

[–]VolatileLemons 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

They can make their "suicides" as colorful as they want since they're the ones who declare the cause of death.

[–]Denmark1976 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, that is apparently how it works, I find it however rather disturbing.

[–]Portinski 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

You got Phil Schneider in there?

[–]WalterWhiteRabbit 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Dude couldn't lift his arms above his shoulders, yet he could double knot his catheter tubing behind his neck to hang himself. He also said that he would never kill himself and if he were ever found dead due to "suicide" you would know he was murdered. Survived multiple previous attempts on his life. His wife also stated that all of his important research, files, and artifacts were missing from his apartment upon the discovery of his body.

[–]conradsymes -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

If he was smart, he'd keep copies of documents with his lawyer or a friend.

[–]sprick 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's written "per se" btw. I agree with your entire post.

[–]gjones33 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

We should actually compile that list. Gary webb etc

[–]tito333 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You still have space left on that list? Mine ran out.

[–]MrCadwallader 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Willing to share. I'd love to take a look at that list.

[–]nickiter 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm sure some of them are actually suicides and accidents... But all of them? Come on.

[–]cjackc 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think calling someone who complained on a local newspapers website that he thought it was unfair that the cops arrested him when he must have had a warrent out isn't exactly a dissident.

[–]beavis420 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

What's sad is that this hasn't got any attention on the local news.

Here are thel local headlines:

Deadly dirt bike crash - local charismatic college senior dead; locals distraught by his death.

Armed robber identified.

Baseball bat assault attacker on the lose.

Homegrown Marijuana operation house burns.

[–]Abeneezer 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's pretty old news though, it was circuited a lot back in the weekend he died. It is still fucked though. Everything about this was fucked.

[–]kfbr392kfbr392 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I saw this on the news in Sacramento a month ago.

[–]cjackc -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

The Marijuana house burning is the more interesting "coincidence" giving this guys fear of infrared cameras and police dogs, which are used to find grow operations. Maybe someone is burning down grow ops?

The motion detecting cameras and his high level of security also point to a grow op.

His neighbors acting strange and he says that one of them was a drug dealer, and a Vietnam vet. What if instead of his paranoia that he was an informant for the police, it was actually he was working with drug dealers.

[–]unusedthought 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

it was actually he was working with drug dealers.

You mean the police, and their associated handlers?

[–]jay_howard 24ポイント25ポイント  (2子コメント)

As if the FBI gave a fuck about a corrupt local PD...

[–]generald316 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just south of Fresno in Bakersfield we had the FBI investigate the BPD and Kern County Sheriffs on multiple suspicious deaths. Nothing came out of it though

[–]RevoltAmericas 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Only if Obama made em or it was a White on black crime and radical racist Soro puppets kept rioting, only then.

[–]CisPrivileged 101ポイント102ポイント  (24子コメント)

According to the investigators, who had initially called his death suspicious, Lang stabbed himself and then set his house on fire.

How does one suppose this explanation with a straight face? What a ridiculous notion

[–]IceDagger316 58ポイント59ポイント  (18子コメント)

Paranoid delusional tried to martyr himself and make it look like the cops that he said were going to kill him did it but couldn't bring himself to do it all the way with the knife so he set his house on fire?

[–]Bears_Bearing_Arms 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

This was my initial impression, honestly.

Although, I think burning the house was always part of the plan.

[–]hels 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

How many suicides have involved someone stabbing themselves twice (once in the back) and then burning alive? Let's just agree it is extremely uncommon and rare that someone uses two different methods to succeed in suicide. Usually it's just one method (cutting throat/wrist -slicing not stabbing-, shoot, drug, antifreeze etc. etc.) with stabbing and burning alive both uncommon.

[–]IceDagger316 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

He wasn't stabbed in the back. All 3 superficial stab wounds were to the chest. IF he was trying to set it up to look like someone else did it, slashing his wrists would be off the table, as it would be assumed to be a suicide.

[–]RadarOreily 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

[–]wolfraisedbysheep 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

Its hilarious that "stab self then light house on fire" is so preposterous, but no one else considered he could have just done it in the opposite order.

[–]XDforlife 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

shhh we're having a conspiracy here

i want to finish redditing about this before john oliver comes on xd im an activist

[–]adzig8 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

only thing that seems weird to me is where did the weapon go?

[–]byoonbyoon 60ポイント61ポイント  (16子コメント)

I mentioned this when it first happened, but anything you post to facebook regarding the incident is immediately taken down. One of my alias accounts received a warning from Facebook after sharing an article on this.

[–]asthebroflys 23ポイント24ポイント  (4子コメント)

What did the warning say?

[–]Trelifaxx1640 20ポイント21ポイント  (3子コメント)

This.

inb4 "can't find it lol"

[–]sons_of_many_bitches 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

"I'm on my phone don't know how to screenshot lolz"

[–]wolfraisedbysheep 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

"Obviously, I immediately deleted that FB account and set my computer on fire to avoid any potential tracking by the NSA"

[–]stalker437 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

You have to use a burner PC.

[–]TheFlashFrame -3ポイント-2ポイント  (10子コメント)

I posted it to Facebook and if anything it got sort of the shadowban treatment. I got one like. But I never got a warning and it wasn't taken down.

EDIT: wtf?

[–]wolfraisedbysheep 8ポイント9ポイント  (9子コメント)

That "shadowban" is probably your FB friends being tired of your incessant half baked conspiracy theory posts.

[–]TheFlashFrame 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

I have a group of about 10 friends who regularly like and comment on the conspiracy-ish shit I say. Only one of them (who isn't even a usual) commented on this one.

[–]cjackc 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Did you post it soon after you posted another one? I find that if I post two pictures or links the first almost always gets all the attention. Pretty sure it is part of their algorithm.

[–]TheFlashFrame 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hmm, not sure about that. I originally posted this to Facebook like a month or so ago when it first appeared on this sub.

[–]cjackc 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I believe that Facebook does automatically lower the visibility of conspiracy links because they are shared so often they were afraid it would fill up too much of people's timelines.

[–]XDforlife 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

facebook's been (without really hiding it) 'tailoring' people's facebook feeds for a long time now. they hide posts they dont want you to see and bring up ones they do, this has been done before in order to 'change the mood of the user'

because what company wants you feeling mad/sad when you're viewing the ad content they get paid to show you?

[–]wolfraisedbysheep 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Did you follow up and ask them if they saw that post on your feed? I'm genuinely curious.

FB is really fickle, it can depend a lot on the time of day and day of week, sometimes people will not see your posts because they are being inundated with other stuff. Some of my (non conspiracy) posts get lots of comments and likes, while others that I would say are just as interesting, or cover similar topics, will go unnoticed.

[–]TheFlashFrame 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's a good point. It was probably a bad time of day because I asked my girlfriend if she could see it and she said she could. Then I got worried that Facebook was listening to my calls. But in the same way you're "worried" that the Matrix is real.

[–]XDforlife 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

facebook's been (without really hiding it) 'tailoring' people's facebook feeds for a long time now. they hide posts they dont want you to see and bring up ones they do, this has been done before in order to 'change the mood of the user'

because what company wants you feeling mad/sad when you're viewing the ad content they get paid to show you?

[–]wolfraisedbysheep 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah FB absolutely does tailor your feed in general, but the OP's assertion seems to be that FB is specifically hiding conspiracy related posts. It's totally possible, but I'd want to see more proof.

[–]Sirrayser 18ポイント19ポイント  (8子コメント)

Is there any other subreddit this can be posted to to get more traction?

[–]Duthos 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bad cop no donut, maybe?

[–]BleedingCello 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's /r/johnlang but it's already been posted there almost a week ago. Also that sub is really small and almost depressing in a way.

[–]Cult_of_BBW 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

When it happened a couple months ago it was actually on the front page of news but nothing really came of it. Most people just read it then move on. Only a small group of people like us give a damn

[–]420blazer247 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Would posting this constantly on world news or whatever do anything? I think the thing is, so many people don't feel like they need to know what happened. Just the headliners on the news. It's sad they can get away with this shit.

[–]RealRickSanchez 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

After being targeted himself, he documented that the police were doing this:

  1. The police were going to poor grocery stores.

  2. Using plate scanners to scan for prior criminal history in the parking lot.

  3. Gathering a list of cars to target then parking down the street.

  4. Pulling over the targeted cars for Bulls shit reasons.

  5. Arresting and ticketing the targets.

According to him, the department ruined his marriage and life by targeting him. There is a video on his YouTube. He asked for people on Facebook to come stay with him and bring guns because he thought someone from the pol8ce department was going to make an attempt on his life. Then he died a couple weeks later. Reddit all ready called that it would be a "suicide."

[–]420blazer247 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Would posting this constantly on world news or whatever do anything? I think the thing is, so many people don't feel like they need to know what happened. Just the headliners on the news. It's sad they can get away with this shit.

[–]lexoh 31ポイント32ポイント  (3子コメント)

This is how you can tell that most conspiracy theories are bunk. If you've touched on a real conspiracy, they just get rid of you.

[–]Sek101 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Catch the most flak when over target.

[–]RamenRider 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So I guess that makes 911, JFK, and ISIS real conspiracies then. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU8-bgfR83Q

Also fuck you for asserting false strawmans kys fucking wanker.

[–]RealRickSanchez -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

After being targeted himself, he documented that the police were doing this:

  1. The police were going to poor grocery stores.

  2. Using plate scanners to scan for prior criminal history in the parking lot.

  3. Gathering a list of cars to target then parking down the street.

  4. Pulling over the targeted cars for Bulls shit reasons.

  5. Arresting and ticketing the targets.

According to him, the department ruined his marriage and life by targeting him. There is a video on his YouTube. He asked for people on Facebook to come stay with him and bring guns because he thought someone from the pol8ce department was going to make an attempt on his life. Then he died a couple weeks later. Reddit all ready called that it would be a "suicide."

[–]no1113 14ポイント15ポイント  (9子コメント)

[–]hapakal 10ポイント11ポイント  (8子コメント)

It certainly sounds that way reading his writing. https://web.archive.org/web/20160128104951/http://www.jodymurray.com/

[–]BorisKafka 11ポイント12ポイント  (6子コメント)

Issues or not, the amount of evidence backing his story is pretty substantial.

[–]inewtonior 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yeah he was pretty paranoid but he posted footage to youtube of people thermally imaging his house from a black van... the initial reports of back stab wounds are pretty bad too if that statement given in the article is true.

[–]BorisKafka 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd be pretty paranoid if I had footage of people thermally imaging my house from a black van. I'm surprised he was able to hold it together as well as he did.

[–]sevenswansdead 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

people thermally imaging his house from a black van

I highly doubt that's a thermal imaging camera. Looks like a DSLR on a gimbal stabilizer. Not likely a setup that would be used for surveillance. Could be a production company shooting B-roll or setting up a shot, among other things.

Thermal imaging cannot see through walls into a house. There wouldn't be a reason to use thermal imaging in this situation. Could be the police fucking with the neighborhood schizophrenic, but again, police departments don't typically use expensive gimbal stabilizers for surveillance.

[–]lkoz590 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

All the videos are down for me on the link posted above, is that because it's an archived site or are they actually down?

[–]cjackc 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean how can you argue with this kind of evidence

"while picking up my daughter from a softball game by a green mid 90's Toyota Camry type 4 door vehicle. The driver was a male wearing a baseball hat. Very strange because the car was similar to my Saturn and the driver was wearing a baseball hat similar to what I typically wear. The driver appeared to be arrogantly mocking my appearance. The driver made eye contact with me and smiled, which appeared to be an overt and sarcastic way to let me know he was following me"

Another person in a 4 door car with a baseball hat near a baseball field!

[–]cjackc 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just because he thought that the police department, the Sherrif department, the Newspaper, the City of Fresno, the FBI, his neighbor, a coworker, and Internet provider were all working together against him?

[–]Taco-Time 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Should have had a body cam of some sort streaming to cloud storage 24/7. Getting footage of something like this would have been so massive in the fight against police corruption.

[–]UcDat 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Open Letter the USDOJ and the FBI I am fairly certain that Fresno Law Enforcement is trying to set me up on some type a charge related to child pornography. I’ve been trying to figure out why they would send Child Molester George Adams Ramirez my way when I was renting the property next to me for Don Green. Also, I was at a loss as to how Fresno LE was able to turn so many people against me so quickly. The only thing that makes sense coupled with George Ramirez situation is if Fresno LE told these folks I was a child porn suspect. Imagine a police officer dressed in his official uniform pulling up in a police cruiser. Imagine the same police officer or detective telling a group of coworkers of the accused or other folks that said the person is a bad guy who is under investigation for the crimes of child pornography, and cops would like their help in putting a really bad guy away. This would be a no brainier for most reasonable people. There is no more heinous, hideous, and inhuman crime than that of a child porn person. This crime evokes more human emotion than any other. And it is to that effect that Fresno Law Enforcement uses to suit their purpose in my situation. It’s Fresno Law Enforcement’s “weapon of mass destruction”.

This would also explain why the FBI shows little interest in my pleas for help. There has long been a belief in Law Enforcement circles that if someone is guilty of something, then helping that process along by fabricating evidence is completely acceptable. This rational can provide a loophole for truth and justice to be ignored when an innocent person is charged or suspected of crimes, as it is with my situation. Let this example serve as a warning to all my activist and blogger friends. We are by no means free. If and when the Government targets us, we are completely and utterly done, and there is really nothing we can do about it. Through my example, the Government is trying to drive home the point that they want obedient, submissive, and loyal subjects. And they will settle for nothing less.. I’m also fairly certain I’ve figured out how Fresno Law Enforcement handled the actual access and internet distribution of the offensive material. Let’s just say that the FEDS should re-investigate all Child porn cases in Fresno where ATT Internet Services provided the Internet service. Especially cases where the accused had a conflict with the City Of Fresno or high ranking City of Fresno personnel. Other elements are simply handled by planting various elements of false evidence here and there once they enter a residence. That is why Fresno LE was so determined to get a search warrant for an official home entry in my case. As I’ve mentioned in the past Fresno LE had already illegally and secretly entered by home, copied my hard drives in order to get a good game plan for the eventual false arrest. There also appears to be a pattern here. Anyone who has ever talked publicly about, accused, or discussed Jerry Dyer’s supposed sex scandal with that 16-year-old girl has found themselves in some type of legal peril within a few short years.. And with this letter I have for certain signed my death warrant with Fresno LE. Kind Regards, John Lang Fresno Ca 93728"

dude was dead on too bad no one would help him and even worst its a strong message to any of us who would stand up to tyranny!

[–]asthebroflys 11ポイント12ポイント  (15子コメント)

Just playing devils advocate here, what are the chances he DID commit suicide to become a martyr for his own cause?

If someone was on a hit list and loudly and publicly stated that he was going to be offed soon, why would they proceed with the hit? That would draw a massive amount of attention and scrutiny.

[–]president46 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe he watched the movie "The Life of David Gale."

[–]astrozombie2012 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pretty likely considering if the reports are true his house was completely and heavily secured from the inside.

[–]Vocalized -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

There is inconsistent reports in his death for starters, cops are known to be corrupt in many cases, and vital evidence is missing.

Maybe you missed all of the times cops openly killed someone on video in broad daylight too, they don't care because people like you will believe their bullshit.

[–]craag 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The cops stabbed him?

[–]asthebroflys 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Show me where I said I believed the cops.

[–]Grobbley 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Apparently they don't know what it means to play devil's advocate.

[–]SavageDark -2ポイント-1ポイント  (7子コメント)

It is possible, but how many people are really committed to killing THEMSELVES for a greater good? That's rare. Plus this article isn't likely to be put on any public news, so not many people will actually read it unfortunately

[–]hapakal 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

That wouldnt be why he killed himself. He wouldve been suicidal and then attempted to set up a scenario that his perceived oppressors would be blamed for it. That he predicted it the way he did. That he makes all kinds of extreme claims without providing any support for them and thought he was being watched, everywhere he went it seems.. and in many of the examples, videos, he posted, he's not being watched at all. Theyre people in the street, or a guy shooting locations from a van for two minutes he think is 'thermal imagining being used against him.' another shows a carpet cleaning service in front of his house, he didnt google the company he just assumed they were there for him. Not that they paid the slightest attention to him, mind you. See the vids.. read his writings at the link I put above and you will see he sounds paranoid and delusional. Doesnt mean he wasnt murdered. It's just highly unlikely. And sure, just bc youre paranoid doesnt mean theyre not after you but it also doesnt mean they are.

[–]ZMOT7S 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's a decent way to think about but I would think someone wanting to commit suicide wouldn't care enough to go through all this. He would have put a lot of time in to this if it really was planned though.

[–]cjackc 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

A couple of Internet posts is a lot of work?

[–]sevenswansdead 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think that's fairly simplistic way of looking at it. He could very well have believed the police were after him. I assume he did, hence the numerous security footage clips (which are undoubtedly distilled quite a bit, the product of days and days in front of the monitor).

Schizophrenia is heavy. Paranoia could realistically drive a man to predict his own murder with full faith, and kill himself as if it was all some sort of self-fulfilling prophecy. He could've believed the police were killing him as he was taking his own life. Logic and objective reality doesn't necessarily stick around in the dregs.

[–]StankyNugz 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's a whole bunch of people willing to kill themselves in the name of allah.... it's not that rare. People are crazy. Once you look further into this you can see how far gone this guy really was. He was posting about a guy being suspicious because he was driving a car that looked like his, and was wearing a similar baseball cap to the one he owned. At a baseball field :/. Apparently the guy smiled at him (Probably your typical white dude smile you do when you walk past someone on the sidewalk) and he claimed that he could tell the guy was following him by the way that he smiled.

[–]snjurk 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

MURICAAAAAA sorry I'm mad

[–]errydaymofo 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I work for Fresno PD. I will admit that it was probably our boys that did it. I'm resigning soon, too much corruption here.

[–]lebleu29 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'm not trying to be a dick here, but this happened in January. Reddit and this sub were full of threads about this for many days. You guys all missed this?

[–]WalterWhiteRabbit 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

He died in January. The death was just ruled a suicide last week. I was following this story while he was still alive, and he was pleading for help, asking for any one of his friends/acquaintances to stay with him at his home, as he feared for an imminent attempt on his life at the hands of local PD, with numerous instances of private CC security footage backing up his stalking and harassment claims.

[–]stemgang 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

"If I don't hear about something within a week of it happening, I never want to hear about it again."

?

[–]Tappen_Zee -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Noooo.... But it's of old news. Kind of hard to make a big deal about it when it already was all over the Internet and jack shit happened.

[–]420blazer247 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's hard to make a big deal about it? How? Someone got killed for speaking out about the corruption. I think this is an easy thing to make a big deal about. This is what a decent amount of our government has turned into. This needs to change. People need to know.

[–]lkoz590 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

In the article there's a post of his saying to visit jodymurray.com I tried to go there. Website's down.

[–]hapakal 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hit the Way Back Machine link I posted above.

[–]lkoz590 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just saw it, good looks

[–]BaconAndEggzz -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

likely due to all of the traffic

[–]lkoz590 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

One poster above linked to an archived version of the page, all the youtube videos he had there are down as well

[–]BaconAndEggzz 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ah, well then, it appears that shadiness is afoot.

[–]lkoz590 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shadiness is certainly afoot

[–]iFearghal 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

In the video the van has a phone number on it. Has anyone tried it?

[–]flyyyyyyyyy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

militia, common law court. that's how this problem is supposed to be solved. this is what the 2nd amendment is all about.

[–]Eurotrashie 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Three words America: You are fucked.

[–]Astros_alex 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fuck i thought New Orleans PD corruption was bad. At least they haven't been covering up murders. They stay in the ballpark of embezzlement and extortion ya know "victimless" crimes.

[–]StankyNugz 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cops don't need to cover up murders. They can just shoot unarmed people all over the nation and not face any charges. Where have you been.

[–]maluminse 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Private investigation needs to be done. Private autopsy of the body if possible.

[–]-nautical- 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good to know, I thought there might have been something shady going on here.

[–]trav9751 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shit happened a few days ago. Been working and dealing with tha wife have yuue?

[–]rmandraque 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

...soooooo who the fuck was john lang? Activist...thats all it says...

[–]Steve_TheDestroyer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

A more detailed report documenting Lang's diary and the events leading up to the last days of distress http://fresnopeoplesmedia.com/2016/01/2829/

[–]omnicidial 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

There are tons of local coordination forums ran by police outside their internal systems. One locally here in cookeville tn got somehow crawled by Google and started popping up because it looks like they botched the robots.txt, Putnampit.com, notice the antisemitic jokes about attorneys and jokes about anyone requesting access being a "complaining witness" and the broken front page.

One thing to remember these guys aren't technical wizards at all and they manage their own shit.

[–]ghodith 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think if I were a cop trying to fake a suicide this would be the worst way to go about it.

Though if I were suicidal and trying to fake a murder this might look more like it.

That is unless I'm a cop trying to fake a fake murder, but at that point you are just trying too hard to be clever.

[–]RealRickSanchez 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

After being targeted himself, he documented that the police were doing this:

  1. The police were going to poor grocery stores.

  2. Using plate scanners to scan for prior criminal history in the parking lot.

  3. Gathering a list of cars to target then parking down the street.

  4. Pulling over the targeted cars for Bulls shit reasons.

  5. Arresting and ticketing the targets.

According to him, the department ruined his marriage and life by targeting him. There is a video on his YouTube. He asked for people on Facebook to come stay with him and bring guns because he thought someone from the pol8ce department was going to make an attempt on his life. Then he died a couple weeks later. Reddit all ready called that it would be a "suicide."

[–]phobophobia 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Most of you are fucking retarded.

This is one of the few times that there is actually a conspiracy at work. There absolutely is. Unfortunately nothing that has happened matters in the larger scope of things so this is going to be entirely looked over and forgotten.

[–]Cerehectus 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

"one of the few times" he says... after declaring most of us "retarded."

[–]phobophobia 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unlike most of the garbage posted in this sub there is actually hard evidence supporting what was going on with John Lang. Belief in all the other nonsense here does make you retard.

[–]brokeblvd [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So we're just going to allow this to happen when we all know the fresno pd were involved in the deathbof this man. This is sickening.

[–]darsh81 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

DUDE! Post this anywhere but here... Like /r/conspiracy people already know about this shit, were not going to do anything because we are selves don't want to be suicided or just because were lazy cunts.... Like this isn't even worded as a conspiracy theory article. Like its saying what happened. Please, someone post this in news or something. I would but I just made this account to say this. Also, I just realized what i wrote sounds like I'm bitching at you. I'm not, I'm just saying someone else should post on /r/news or something.

[–]Phluffhead024 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

OK, time for science!

The report stated that Lang had high levels of carbon monoxide in his system along with three superficial, self-inflicted stab wounds to the chest area.

Had he of died prior to the house being set a blaze, he wouldn't have breathed in any air (carbon monoxide from the smoke). Meaning, he was still alive when the fire started, and even more evidential that he has alive for quite a bit longer after the fire started since the levels were high. The chests wounds were superficial because the breast bone is hard as fuck and stabbing yourself through there is super hard to do, try it.. awkward, right? Definitely not enough power/leverage.

Occham's razor

*spelling

[–]enigmaman49 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Suicidal singer Elloitt Smith stabbed himself HARD in the chest TWICE when he killed himself...at the time everyone assumed his girlfriend did it because it was "impossible" for someone to do that to themselves...turns out there are ways to do it, and many do, as long as you do it a certain way..there are instructions somewhere on the intenet...

[–]Pipezilla -5ポイント-4ポイント  (6子コメント)

This was in Fresno, It's a freaking strange case... but i'm sorta with /u/asthebroflys I really doubt the police killed him. I mean, if I thought the police were going to try and kill me, I'd be armed, I would camp in front of the police station, I would rent a hotel under a fictious name... and It happened "all the sudden" when he was bringing up that the cops were going to kill him, then he ends up dead?

Was there a autopsy done? can we get a copy?

[–]Dorothyslaundry 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'm very awake, aware and readily able to admit conspiracies. What I see here is a honey trap that CTs are falling for, hook, line and sinker.

The cops didn't kill him. John Lang has an aka (last name) and died in VA in 2008, according to social security records. For SOME reason, I believe there is an effort to rile up conspiracy minded people, and study how they act or react when things like this happen eg. Do they rant on Reddit or take to the streets...

I do not believe the police killed him BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN I THINK THE COPS AREN'T CORRUPT.

Also, the fact that it is called the Fresno Bee reminds me of the Newtown Bee, in CT where the articles, names, ads and announcements are almost wholly fabricated and the town is a shell of a normal town. Just throwing that out there since they're both "the Bee".

[–]astrozombie2012 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Fresno Bee is a legit paper... a shitty paper... but a legit one...

[–]Fresnoartist 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think its all made up too! They are studying how we react. John Lang was never real

[–]Dorothyslaundry 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you're serious, I'm SO RELIEVED someone gets what I'm saying!!!!

[–]cjackc 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

You think there has only ever been one John Lang and that Newton, CT doesn't actually exist?

[–]Dorothyslaundry 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

  1. No, there have been several but the one that would be him, same employment history, age, family etc, is the one I referenced.

  2. I know for a fact Newtown exists.

[–]ThndrV4 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

He could very easily be a person with mental issues who just wanted to put the blame on the police and he really killed himself.