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[–]DarkRitualOPFRA 116ポイント117ポイント  (13子コメント)

French speaker here, I find this video extremely suspicious.

  1. For people saying "they should revolt", please note he isn't president anymore since 2012

  2. There are a lot of cuts in the video and I'm almost certain he isn't talking about "métissage" anymore at all when he mentions coercive measures at the end. Uncut version or gtfo, I'm not a huge fan of Sarkozy but he isn't THAT low energy, at least not afaik

[–]tnarref 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah, this quote has been mistranslated and used out of context for years so alarmists can have something to point at and say "See, the western culture is in danger !"

He's not talking about breeding at all here, not even close because translating "métissage" is tricky. What he's actually talking about is giving a fair chance to people from minorities on the job market. Equality of chances ? Disgusting, what a piece of shit.

And of course, right wingers saw the ambiguity there and they could use it to scare people. And it's working, look at this thread.

[–]RedPillDessertGBR 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well we're mostly right-wingers, and quite a few like yourself are pointing this out. Heck even the european sub (even more alt-right than here) pointed out this quote was incorrectly translated a few months back.

[–]tnarref 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

There are different kinds of right-wingers, I should have specified that I meant extreme right-wingers who have no problem with lying to get an emotional reaction out of misguided people.

[–]noseforgoes 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's what I'm thinking, else this would have been all over the media at the time.

[–]sloppiesCAN 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're probably right. If I were a French citizen and I heard those words from my leader I'd be pissed as fuck and I think this would have been considered a bigger deal (why didn't I hear about this before?).

I wouldn't be that surprised if it were true though...we know how European leaders have acted the last 50 years...

[–]froglax11TX 521ポイント522ポイント  (96子コメント)

Yup, that's rape.

[–]nobrakesssWA 95ポイント96ポイント  (62子コメント)

Can someone who is better at research and speaks french confirm he is saying the state should coerce people into interracial breeding???

[–]Ntghgthdgdcrtdtrk 202ポイント203ポイント  (44子コメント)

It's probably taken out of its context and dishonestly translated / presented. "Mixité" in french in this context probably refers to "mixité sociale" which has nothing to do with reproduction but with the idea that peoples from different backgrounds (race, wealth, ...) live together. So yeah, he says that peoples will need to learn how to live together. Shocking...

Sarkozy is a right wing politician that pushed his party to the right, thinking that he is calling for forced interbreeding is fucking ridiculous.

[–]nobrakesssWA 67ポイント68ポイント  (5子コメント)

too bad... I think I am starting to be addicted to outrage.

[–]wwyzzerdd 37ポイント38ポイント  (0子コメント)

Recognizing that is the first step in not being a SJWanker.

[–]kek_mate 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

just don't go to the darkside m8, a bit of outrage is good, manufacturing it and finding it everywhere is how one goes to the dark side and joins the sjw's.

[–]nobrakesssWA 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

lol I am imagining George Soros sitting in a chair saying "I can feel your hatred!"

[–]HonorAmongSteves 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Release your triggers. Only your privilege can destroy me.

[–]simpleclear 26ポイント27ポイント  (19子コメント)

Does he say mixité or métissage? Sounded like métissage to me, so this is a pretty damn misleading comment. Here's an article with context: link. Since the context was the elimination of the need for any ethnic quotas through the elimination of distinct ethnic groups, he is clearly talking about métissage, not mere mixité sociale.

Do you speak French, by the way? You say it is "probably taken out of context and dishonestly translated". I wasn't even looking at the tab while I was listening so I have no idea what subtitles they gave, but everyone here seems to have an accurate idea of what he said except you. There's no probable-improbable: if you say it's dishonest and you speak French, the transcript is easy to find online, so give us your translation.

Here, also, is the verified Sarko twitter account: Le métissage enrichit les sociétés, la consanguinité les tue. "Miscegenation enriches societies, common blood kills them." How could you possibly not understand this?

[–]Vovicon 11ポイント12ポイント  (7子コメント)

I'm French. There's no way he was using 'metissage' as interbreeding in the context of that speech.

[–]simpleclear 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

  1. How are métissage and consanguinité opposites unless he means interbreeding?

  2. How can métissage eliminate distinct ethnic groups (thus eliminating any need for ethnic quotas, the reason he was discussing this in a speech on education policy to begin with) unless he means interbreeding?

There's no way he was using 'metissage'

and tbh fam I've spent a ton of time chatting with french people on the internet and this is the first time I've ever seen a native french-speaker drop an accent on the é.

[–]Vovicon 14ポイント15ポイント  (5子コメント)

1 and 2 are because the video is cut to fit that narrative.

Anyone who knows Sarkozy and French politics would know that there is absolutely no way in hell this guy was saying government should enforce interbreeding. It's just ridiculous. It's the same guy who declared that France is of Christian heritage and that it's everyone's responsibility to ensure this heritage is preserved. Google "Sarkozy Christian".

There are maybe a couple of French politicians who could have been nuts enough to think government should have a say on who you reproduce with but definitely not him, who's a right wing conservative who's regularly been toying with the far-right of Front National (which slogans are "France to the French" and "France first").

But hey, this doesn't fit that sub narrative that Europe has given up totally so I don't expect anyone to listen.

I'm a French living abroad. Typing the é on a QWERTY is a pain. Check my history if you don't believe it. Warning, you might get triggered because I mention that my kids are mixed race.

[–]docdeekFRA 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm not a French citizen but have been living in France for the last decade. You're right: anyone who has been following debates on culture, ethnicity, and social relations in France (and especially the position of the centre-right UMP/Republicains) would know this is not what was intended. That the video is clearly cut/edited to make it appear as if Sarko is suggesting rape/forced inter-racial breeding is further evidence of that.

There are wacky things said from time to time in this country and in political debate but I have never heard a single candidate suggest state-enforced race mixing/breeding. It's so far beyond the pale as to be laughable.

[–]arxndo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm a French citizen living in the US and want to second both of the above comments. It's laughable that Sarkozy is being portrayed in this sub as anything other than the conservative, anti-immigrant, pro-Christian conservative that he is. When he is advocating for more "metissage", what he really means is that steps need to be taken to ensure that immigrants assimilate and become more like French people.

[–]PANTSONMIXTAPE 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Honestly, even if I agree what he's saying is "intermixing" as in multiculturalism what he's saying is somewhat disturbing.

He's saying the state will make business, administration, etc change. Because it must change, the state will make it if the people don't want to. This is sort of not cool if you're looking at it as a right of the people to have free will.

Then he goes on to say to the saudis that forcing a single civilization/culture isn't good and that it's bad to erase an identity of a people and their culture. What this is saying is basically "hey saudi arabia, you can keep your identity and culture but we'll systematically make our people and culture mix with yours"

[–]Khaaannnnn 8ポイント9ポイント  (6子コメント)

He said métissage but it's clear from the context ("We must change, so we will change. We are going to change everywhere at the same time: in business, in administration, in education, in the political parties") that he meant multiculturalism.

Linguee is a useful site that finds a word or phrase in professionally translated texts. As you can see here métissage can mean either miscegenation or multiculturalism/cultural mixing.

[–]gildredgeUK 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

Can someone who is better at research and speaks french confirm he is saying the state should coerce people into interracial breeding???

It is a completely valid interpretation, of course someone can say, "oh, it's just a metaphor for diversity", but it's original and proper meaning is precisely that.

For example this is a simple google image search for the word

If you look at the French wikipedia page on it (run it through google translate) the first picture illustrating the article is Obama, and it makes clear that it refers to actual racial mixing.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9tis

[–]PM_ME_UR_OBSIDIAN 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anyone who knows the first thing about Sarkozy knows this is bullshit without even listening to it. "Métissage" means either racial interbreeding or multiculturalism. Here it's clear which one we're talking about.

If this had been an accurate translation, Sarkozy would have gotten tarred and feathered. The French are racist as fuck, at least for Europeans.

[–]Vovicon 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

French native speaker here. This is absolutely not what is meant AT ALL. 'Métissage' is a word that originally was used for racial interbreeding but is now used for anything involving mixing up cultures together. Think of it as an equivalent of the term 'melting pot'.

In this case, he was basically saying that everyone needs to get ready to handle the coexistence of multiple cultures everywhere (he didn't say how)

Sarkozy is a right wing pretty conservative guy. He's regularly been under fire from liberals because of his criticism of immigrants and Islam. There's no way he'd have been preaching what is suggested by the title and the inaccurate translation in this video.

[–]rondarouseyy 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

no, my first language is french and its taken out of context, he mean forced diversity in school, business, education, etc, not actual interbreeding,

i still disagree with his stance, but its not as insane as op title make it appears

[–]EsminiaFRA[🍰] 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

a "métis" is someone who is mixed race and thus mixed skin color, most likely arabic or north african.

"Relever le défi du métissage" Is, as my french understanding, "To overcome the miscegenation/crossbreeding challenge."

EDIT : By "overcoming", it's actually complying, doing it, not trying to overthrow it.

[–]djt159MS 173ポイント174ポイント  (20子コメント)

I really don't get how liberals have gone for fighting for all these rights and protections to literally doing a 180 and fighting to remove them.

[–]allegorically_hitlerVA 87ポイント88ポイント  (7子コメント)

They woke up one day and decided that after decades of propaganda, they were simply wrong, and white people are the devil and western society is evil with a sordid past. The only way to make up for it is to tear down western society and replace it. Islamists seem to be their allies in that idea so, friends, why not.

[–]porn_atheism_alt1LA 29ポイント30ポイント  (5子コメント)

They are culturally depressed to the point of suicide.

[–]STARVE_THE_BEAST 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

[–]DrBaconTacoFL 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Idk fam. He seems hung up on white people having inherent altruistic views because of genetics. This, as well as his point about Europeans only ever being monogamous is false.

Whites in NA and WE are altruistic because we've been safe fore so long. We had two entire generations that've never really known war. That's fucking insane in comparison to the past. It's much more likely that we're (we = people in general, not just whites) like pigs; while on the farm we're soft, docile and lethargic. Throw that same pig into the wild and he'll transform into a wild boar covered in hair with big ass tusks. You can see this in EE white peoples like in Poland.

Polygamy was practised by many European groups and monogamy practiced in many non-western groups; ancient peasants of developed civilizations (Egypt, China, Rome, Greece etc) were almost always monogamous while the elites often had numerous wives/concubines. The first Roman emperor Augustus actually made a point of legally enforcing monogamy (along with other anti-degeneracy laws) throughout the empire.

Most powerful states were monogamous (Rome, European empires, the US etc), so it can be argued that monogamy is a requirement for a civilization to succeed. The collapse/decline of these states/civilizations also bears a correlation to the decrease in monogamy within said state/civilization. The fall of Rome is partly attributed to it's abandonment of traditional values.

Altruism could just be the by product of never being threatened on a large collective scale. This was something experienced during the dying days of many empires, again Rome is notable.

[–]villkeSRB 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its true elite gets bored and becomes suicidal and takes whole nation with them.

[–]neilmcc 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ethnic identity and solidarity is a barrier to complete domination by certain unscrupulous economic forces (e.g., some big corporate takeovers and selling our industry overseas for a short term profit) but also ethnic competition taking place in a political/ethnic level.

Most of the European ethnics right now are both wealthy and weak due to a big slide in cultural integrity and morality.

A dangerous combination. Other, often non-European ethnic groups, will seek to undermine those for personal immediate gain or to increase the relative power of their own group, especially in cases of multi-ethnic states which are always, always subject to sectarian division.

When you imagine that average liberal that has drank the rainbow family kool-aid, I think they represent a group susceptible to the repetitious propaganda, just like some groups are susceptible of falling ill, they lack any sort of cultural or psychological immunity.

Some liberals will attack their own ethnic group in ways which are seemingly irrational but are often as a result of perverse intensives. First, we know that humans are quite capable of betrayal and there is also a very unique problem among Europeans which is a susceptibility to guilt. They instinctively want to be good people and do not want to be made examples of by the press which is obviously controlled and full of liars.

Multi-ethnic societies can work with some stability if these facts are acknowledged and this sort of moral-meddling by out-groups is suppressed, but history has shown that is quite rare.

[–]ak-chanCO 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some liberals will attack their own ethnic group in ways which are seemingly irrational

I believe that it is actually a form of neighbor hatred. Familiarity breeds contempt. So they get to thinking that other ethnic groups would provide for better neighbors.

[–]SnowballAxeCAN 51ポイント52ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because they aren't liberals anymore. This isn't liberalism.

Trump needs to win to shut all these mother fuckers up and show them how lost they are.

[–]EliteFourScott 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

Because they never cared about rights and protections, they've only ever wanted authority

[–]porn_atheism_alt1LA 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

I also feel like they have gotten so used to arguing something that - even when reality changes - they can't help but keep singing the same old tune.

SJWs are a cancer, and cancer happens when a part of the body just doesn't know when to stop - or when the rest of the body is unwilling to stop it.

[–]ak-chanCO 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sadly it has metastasized :(

[–]PriceisRightlastbid 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

He is a conservative French politician and this is a mistranslated video. He is saying that Other cultures need to be made to integrate (into French culture) not interbreed.

[–]pump4trump 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well evidently the goal was to be anti-white/anti euro/ anti western civilisation.

So they've been fairly consistent on that front.

[–]OfficialHughJanus 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

TL;DR: Video gives bad interpretation, not rape. Either anti-Sarkozy propaganda or French student didn't understand the speech.

I'm not an expert at French (taken 5 years of French, subscribed to Charlie Hebdo, but not fluent enough to understand the video), but I do keep up with French politics and am a Sarkozy supporter. Sarkozy is the leader of the right-wing Républicains (l'UMP at the time of this speech), so he definitely wouldn't support mandated race-mixing. He has a reputation as is amongst many French people of being a "racist bigot", one reason he's no longer president. The fact that people would misinterpret this so badly is unbelievably embarrassing. If he had actually proposed mandated race mixing, it would've been such a radical change of policy that we would've known about it when he first said it.

What Sarkozy was saying in the video wasn't that interbreeding should be required in France, he was saying that racial integration is necessary in the workplace and in schools to prevent all hell breaking loose. Sarkozy defends the identity of the French people in the video and even talks about how humiliating the loss of identity would be. I'm not making this interpretation myself, this is from news articles after he actually gave the fucking speech. He uses the word "métissage" instead of the full phrase "métissage de la société" for the sake of saving breath I guess. Same reason we would say "integration" instead of "integration of the races", given the context of the speech (because there was context: employment, administration, education), there was no need to repeat anything but "integration". He wasn't promoting one single French race, he was promoting a type of affirmative action which if employers and administrative workers refused to comply with would be met with govt mandates.

Don't let this fuck up the way you see Sarkozy, he would probably agree with most of Trump's policies, he's definitely come to be seen the same way people see Trump.

Sources: Brussels Journal, 2009

[–]smp501SC 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nonono, it's only rape if a privileged white male (spits on ground in disgust) has sex, whether consensual or not. If Muslims fuck children (boys or girls), camels, goats, etc. then it isn't rape. It's just their culture and you need to learn to respect that!

[–]FartinLutherKingJr 278ポイント279ポイント  (20子コメント)

Coercive measures = inviting millions of rape-inclined immigrants into Europe?

Sounds like their plan is already being put into action.

[–]curioso_UK 109ポイント110ポイント  (2子コメント)

inviting millions of rape-inclined immigrants into Europe

Previous generations who complain about the horrors of war, ignore the potential horrors of peace.

Europe has been invaded and we are being made to submit. Not something men in WWII or the Cold War had to do.

We can only hope for hot war.

[–]wswdes 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

By God I hope you people rise up and change things. It is unbelievable what is happening to Europe and I hope for the best for our brothers across the pond.

[–]trumpinator1234 35ポイント36ポイント  (15子コメント)

People should know that this is a miss translation. He is actually saying that "cultural integration" is an obligation. Not sexual reproduction.

Anti-immigrant people like to put this speech up with that english translation, but it is about as honest as people who say trump is a bad businessman because he had 3 bankruptcies or whatever. The bankruptcy thing only seems like a good argument if you don't understand business, and the "interbreeding" thing only seems like a good argument if you don't understand french.

[–]tholinssTX 14ポイント15ポイント  (5子コメント)

Not to be an asshole, but wiping out French culture through "integration" is almost as fucking bad. Worse, maybe. Culture can transcend race. This is literally advocating for the extinction of everything that makes France French. This is the death of an entire way of life.

[–]pump4trump 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

Is this genocide by the UN definition?

"any acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group."

[–]tholinssTX 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Naw. The UN doesn't care about white people. It's mostly a tool for third world nations to punish us for all the horrible things we did to them in the past.

(but honestly, I think it could qualify, once it reached a certain threshold of severity and intensity. It's probably not there yet.)

[–]MsWordy[S] 11ポイント12ポイント  (6子コメント)

Métissage = "crossbreeding". It's used in common French in the same way "miscegenation" is in English. The Métis people in Canada are given this name because they are mixed-race: "the term historically described all mixed-race people of First Nations and other ancestry."

[–]trumpinator1234 14ポイント15ポイント  (5子コメント)

Transcript of his speech here:

http://aphec.it-sudparis.eu/spip.php?article376

The full excerpt, is a lot less damning than the video makes it out to be. Its pretty clear he is talking about an interbreeding of cultures, rather than the sexual interbreeding of individuals.

C’est en rétablissant l’égalité des chances que la République fera circuler ses élites. C’est en rétablissant l’égalité des chances qu’elle fera droit à la diversité. Tout ce qui entrave l’égalité des chances doit être combattu. Tout ce qui empêche chacun de faire valoir ses talents et ses mérites doit être corrigé. L’égalité des chances doit cesser d’être théorique pour devenir réelle. Il ne s’agit pas de remplacer une discrimination par une autre. Il s’agit de donner plus à ceux qui ont moins ou, pour prendre une autre image, de faire plus pour ceux qui partent de plus loin. Il s’agit de compenser les handicaps. Il s’agit de donner une deuxième chance à ceux qui n’ont pas eu les moyens de saisir la première. Quel est l’objectif ? Cela va faire parler, mais l’objectif, c’est relever le défi du métissage ; défi du métissage que nous adresse le XXIe siècle. Le défi du métissage, la France l’a toujours connu et en relevant le défi du métissage, la France est fidèle à son histoire. D’ailleurs, c’est la consanguinité qui a toujours provoqué la fin des civilisations et des sociétés. Disons les choses comme elles sont, jamais le métissage. La France a toujours été, au cours des siècles, métissée. La France a métissé les cultures, les idées, les histoires. Et l’universalisme de la France n’est rien d’autre que le fruit de ce constant métissage qui n’a cessé de s’enrichir d’apports nouveaux et de bâtir sur tant de différences mêlées les unes aux autres un sentiment commun d’appartenance et au fond un patrimoine unique de valeurs intellectuelles et morales qui s’adressent à tous les hommes. La France, dans son histoire, ce sont des hommes tellement différents qui sont venus constituer la France. La France qui a su métisser ses cultures et ses histoires, en a construit, produit un discours universel parce qu’elle-même, la France, se sent universelle dans la diversité de ses origines. Eh bien, ce métissage, elle l’a réussi parce qu’elle a su offrir à chacun la promesse de la promotion sociale.

GOOGLE TRANSLATE VERSION:

This is by restoring equality of opportunity that the Republic will circulate its elite. This is by restoring equality of opportunity that it will uphold diversity. All that hinders equal opportunities must be fought. Anything that prevents everyone to his talents and merits should be corrected. Equal opportunities must stop being theoretical to become real. It does not replace discrimination with another. This is to give more to those who have less or, to take another picture, to do more for those who go further afield. This is to compensate for the handicaps. This is to give a second chance to those who did not have the means to seize the former. What is the objective? This is going to speak, but the goal is the challenge of miscegenation; challenge of miscegenation that we address the twenty-first century. The challenge of miscegenation, France has always known and meeting the challenge of miscegenation, France is faithful to its history. Moreover, it is the inbreeding that has always brought about the end of civilizations and societies. Let's say things as they are, never interbreeding. France has always been, over the centuries mixed. France has crossbred cultures, ideas, stories. And universalism of France is nothing but the result of this constant mix that has been enriched by new contributions and build on so many differences mingled together a common sense belonging and at the bottom a unique heritage of intellectual and moral values ​​which are addressed to all men. France, in its history, they are so different men who came up France. France, which has managed to crossbreed its cultures and stories, built, produces a universal discourse because she herself, France, feels universal in the diversity of its origins. Well, this blend has succeeded because it was able to offer everyone the promise of social promotion.

[–]EsminiaFRA[🍰] 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Translated it in english :

It is by restoring equality of chances, that the Republic will circulate its elites. It is by restoring equality of chances that it will give room for diversity. Everything that hinder equality of chances must be fought. Everything that impede one's ability to exert his talents or merits, must be corrected. Equality of chances must stop being a theory, to become real. It's not about replacing a form of discrimination by another. It's about giving more to those who have less, or, to take another example, to do more for those who do more. It's about compensating handicaps. It's about giving a second chance to those who didn't had the means to take the first one. What's the goal ? This will be controversial, but the goal, is to overcome the challenge of miscegenous/crossbreeding, a crossbreeding challenge issued by the XXI th century. The challenge of crossbreeding, France had always know it, and by tackling the challenge, France is fidel to it's history. By the way, it's always been consanguinity that pushed civilizations and societies to extinctions. Let's say that, the way things are, never did crossbreeding. France have always been, through the centuries, mixed/crossbred. France have always crossbred cultures, ideas, histories. And the French Universalism is nothing but the result of constant crossbreeding that never stopped growing from new contributions, and to build differences mixed alotherer, a common feeling of membership and a unique heritage of moral and intellectual values, that answers to every man. France, in it's history, is only men so different that they came to create France. The france that knew to crossbreed/mix it's cultures and histories, and had build a universal speech because in itself, France, feels universal in the diversity of it's origin. This crossbreeding/mixing, France succeeded it because it knew how to offer to everyone a social affirmative promise.

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-France, just like Great Britain/the UK, Belgium or the Netherlands, is/was a colonial empire. It had alot of overseas territories, and still holds a lot of territories even to this day (5 in the Atlantic Ocean, and 4 in the Indian Ocean and 4 in the Pacific Ocean, as pictured here ). Regarding citizenship and their access to the French territory, marriage with another citizen or anything else, they are considered french citizens without distinction.

-If you marry a citizen in France, you become a citizen yourself after 3/4/5 years of common household.(with, of course, a visa or any form or residence permit), but since 1973 only.

-France had African and north african colonies, one (Algeria) who rebelled during the war of algeria (1954-1962) to mainly obtain independence from France, who, as a lot of european countries except britain, went through a phase of decolonization of it's colonies (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decolonization), sometimes peacefully, sometimes by war.

-Since 1962, since then, the access of french citizenship has been simplified for (and only for) it's old colonies. If you are a citizen from, say, Algeria, you're gonna have a way easier time getting a citizenship in France than a somali or someone else.

-France have been a colony since 1534, so when Mister Nicolas Sarkozy says France have always been a crossbred country, it's true. France isn't America, but it's still somewhat ethnicity-diverse.

Also, I'm not sure if a society ever died because of consanguinity, and if their downfall had a direct correlation with consanguinity, someone might need to fact-check this. In response of Mister Nicolas Sarkozy's tweet, someone answered with this picture, which shows a strong percentage of consanguine marriage in the Middle East. Even if the answer ((M. Sarkozy, after you see this map of consanguinity, maybe you will stop your questionable innuendo to the french peoples) implied it contradicted what M. Sarkozy said , it can also be used to support his point : Those countries are either shitholes (Pakistan and countries in stan)or only sustained and still alive by sheer luck of having oil underground (Saudi Arabia, Qatar), and are going to be doomed anytime soon by their old running out, and then their consanguinity and their refusal to accept immigration, noticeably Qatar and Saudi Arabia refusing ALL immigration to their territory.

[–]stuffthangzUSA 122ポイント123ポイント  (11子コメント)

They need to revolt.

[–]NixonsRevengeUSA 51ポイント52ポイント  (3子コメント)

Bring out the guillotines!

[–]KnatzSWE 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

[–]MexcaliburCA 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This was the last place I expected to see a DG reference.Stay noided.

[–]VerizonSuitTA 42ポイント43ポイント  (4子コメント)

Good thing the government has all the guns. Those silly citizens would never have a legitimate use for them anyway, especially not when the government is openly talking about coercing people into unwanted sex.

[–]misterdoctorproff 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's why I always say the only way a revolution in Europe can occur is from a coup a la Bucharest 1989 or a series of such coups. Nobody else has guns.

[–]MsWordy[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's an interesting intellectual exercise. For example - was Pinochet's coup in Chile a net gain for the Chilean people? Even with a couple thousand hardcore communists thrown out of helicopters, did they save more lives than they took? How many lives were saved by reversing the disastrous economic policies of the increasingly totalitarian Allende regime, which had only ascended to power with 36% of the vote?

[–]pump4trump 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wherever marxism/communism spreads, mass starvation and death follows, so I would say yes.

[–]Jesus-Fuckin-TrumpTN 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Killing commies is always a gain. Communism leads to mass death. The death of any one comunist could save the life of hundreds.

[–]zugmugCA 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

We might need to too...

[–]puffykilled2pacWA 57ポイント58ポイント  (3子コメント)

WHAT. THE. FUCK.

This world has gone full blown insane.

[–]allegorically_hitlerVA 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

haha, i know, it's like "pod people" suddenly. everyone's lost their god damned minds.

[–]makefoodgreatagainNY 62ポイント63ポイント  (24子コメント)

wtf does that even mean

[–]SwiebelKuchen 78ポイント79ポイント  (18子コメント)

SJW endgame. They think if they eliminate white people they wont have people beating them at everything all the time.

[–]asgdota 14ポイント15ポイント  (8子コメント)

what about all the powerful countries where white people aren't the majority. japan, some parts of africa, china, vietnam, MEXICO

[–]shadowbananawarenessIL 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're not very good at thinking things all the way through.

[–]o2toau 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

Social Marxism is trying to worm its way into their academia as well. Japan's current PM Shinzo Abe is pretty much their Reagan right now, and he instituted a program to stop funding for social sciences in humanities " to focus on disciplines that “better meet society’s needs.”"

http://time.com/4035819/japan-university-liberal-arts-humanities-social-sciences-cuts/

[–]TAmtb11NY 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

such a fucked up utopia. everyone being the same race will only lead to discrimination based on opinion (or some other issue). The endgame is that they are trying to eradicate DIFFERENCES among humans.

THAT CANNOT FUCKING HAPPEN. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DISAGREE; THAT IS WHAT PUSHES US FORWARD AS A SOCIETY AND A SPECIES. WE SHOULD NEVER, EVER BECOME HOMOGENEOUS. THAT IS FUCKING TERRIFYING AND DISASTEROUS.

[–]milkhotdogCAN 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I can't think of anything more boring than us all looking the same and having no distinct culture. Do these people hate humans?

[–]smp501SC 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I forget who said it, but I recently saw a quote that goes along the lines of "Everybody gets upset that white people run everything, but nobody is rushing to move to places where they don't." Unfortunately for the SJWs, when they realize this it will be too late.

[–]OnAllDAYCA 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

The goal is to erase national, cultural and racial identities and differences among people and reduce all of humanity to a mass of interchangeable individuals that spend their entire lives consuming and don't get distracted by things like community, religion or ideology that might fill their heads with values that supersede materialistic and economic considerations.

Lower labor costs, homogenize cultures into a monoculture so it's easier to sell goods to the mass market, increase consumer spending by increasing the population and its total accumulated and potential maximum debt

[–]TAmtb11NY 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

this proposed utopia is fucking disgusting. our heterogeneity is what pushes us forward as a civilization. our heterogeneity is what brings us beauty and needed difference.

[–]GETSTUMPEDNY 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

face white woman to have babys with filth

[–]Eddard_KarstarkWA 21ポイント22ポイント  (34子コメント)

I don't know if this is legit? Any French speakers here?

[–]ChepamecFRA 16ポイント17ポイント  (3子コメント)

As the other said métissage doesn't necessarily mean interbreeding, more "mixing" of cultures. Though he probably meant both.

Also the video was edited to make it seem like the "coercitive measures" were about interbreeding. He was talking about diversity in the workplace and politics, alluding to quotas (now unconstitutionnal in here).

[–]MsWordy[S] 21ポイント22ポイント  (10子コメント)

I suppose it could depend upon how you handle the word métissage - usually translated as "crossbreeding". People defending his comments might try to argue that he's saying the state will forcibly impose cultural mixing, rather than blood mixing. However, if that's what he meant, he could've used a different term. Either way, he's talking about the state forcibly imposing multiculturalism without asking the populace.

[–]ClintonBanned 16ポイント17ポイント  (7子コメント)

So you really think the President of France (at the time) would say:

Racial interbreeding is not a choice, but an obligation. If volunteerism doesn't work, the state will move to more coercive measures.

Don't you think here would have been nation outrage?

[–]MsWordy[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do we know for a fact that there was zero outrage in France? Wouldn't it depend upon how widely the speech was circulated, and - if there was some outrage - wouldn't it only spread if the establishment media picked it up and ran with it?

[–]EsminiaFRA[🍰] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

French here. While I wasn't really involved in politics in 2008, it's the first time I've heard this speech, and M. Nicolas Sarkozy never, to my knowledge acted on his word by forcing harsher obligations or creating considerable laws/programs enforcing his goal, so this may be just meaningless words.

Also, the thing where he stands (with the microphone) reads "Equality of chances and diversity".

France is way more socialist than America (at least way closer to Bernie sanders's ideas than any other candidates) and equality of chances is a big topic in France, so it may have overshadowed the diversity aspect of the event, especially as the term "diversity" engulfes diversities of race, but also of sexes, so it may be only a very small part of a more complex and more diverse speech/event/whatever he was doing here.

[–]SrnartCAN 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's France and he said they need to have more sex. He was probably given some kind of French Nobel Prize.

[–]pizzlewizzleAZ 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

Nope because he was addressing the low birth rate. This is what they view as a sensible solution

[–]MsWordy[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

In the speech he was essentially making an argument that (a) inbreeding is bad for society, and (b) France has always been mixed-race - therefore a state policy of inter-breeding the population with Arabs and Africans is good for society, and nothing any reasonable French person can object to.

[–]DarkRitualOPFRA 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

There are cuts all the way, I have no idea if he's still talking about "métissage" (i.e racial mixing) when he mentions coercive measures at the end and it just looks like a montage made to make him say what he didn't say. I could be wrong but I find it very suspicious and very out of character for Sarkozy as well

[–]simpleclear 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's legit to a certain point, but I wish I had a few minutes before the beginning. He starts by saying "What is the objective? The objective is miscegenation, it's miscegenation," and then he starts talking hypothetically about all the steps that might be necessary to force people to miscegenate. But he doesn't say whose objective it is. If the previous sentence had been "My topic today is to expose the objective of an evil plot by the Bavarian Illuminati -", then the whole thing would sound like he was discussing someone else's objective. Sarko was a pretty big cuck though, so he probably was talking about his own objectives.

Edit: no, I found the source, it was an address on topics in education policy and achieving equality of opportunity. Pretty gross. Link (français)

[–]Alexey_Stakhanov 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, this is plain wrong. Métissage translates here as affirmative action, which we have no word for.

The english intro is a flat out lie.

[–]GETSTUMPEDNY 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

me neater, i refuse to believe someone could actually say this...

[–]tnarref 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nope, this speech has been mistranslated and used out of context by right wingers for years to scare people about the western culture supposedly being in serious danger, which is ridiculous.

What he's actually talking about is chances equality for people from minorities in the job market and administrations and political parties, etc. He's saying that job creators and such shouldn't discriminate against colored people, and if things don't get better we should see affirmative action laws being implemented. That's it.

Sarkozy is pretty much a conservative Republican who hasn't been re elected because he was too close to rich elite members it's hilarious how whoever edited this makes him look like the total opposite of that. He even said when he was the Minister in charge of Interior Security that we should clean up the banlieues filled with thugs with Karchers, and caught a lot of backlash for looking racist.

[–]FakeConservative 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm not a native speaker, but as a learner, the subtitles are correct. It's a horrifying message, but I'm curious what the context of his speech was. It's likely to be that France may not exist without it due to a lack of population growth (and therefore the taxes needed from newer generations).

Personally, I think excessive taxation and regulation hampering the economy is why people are choosing not to have children, so if this is the reason for his statements then it's a really roundabout (i.e. retarded) solution to the problem.

[–]simpleclear 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

It was a speech on education policy, he just randomly veered off course to discuss forced race-mixing

[–]porn_atheism_alt1LA 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

randomly veered off course to discuss forced race-mixing

Just an honest mistake, really. Who doesn't do that once in a while? Just veer off and talk about state sponsored rape.

[–]fashy-yid 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

French speaker, it's legit. The word he used translates roughly to 'mixing', but is used in these contexts the same way we use 'miscegenation'.

[–]LiberatedDeathStarSC 77ポイント78ポイント  (10子コメント)

That is fucking disgusting. You should be under no obligation to do such a thing, and coercing/forcing people to do it is disgusting.

[–]smp501SC 18ポイント19ポイント  (5子コメント)

And shaming people for not wanting to is just as disgusting. Call me "racist" or whatever else, but the only person who decides who I want to date is me and the person I'm pursuing. And if I decide that I don't want to pursue someone who worships a 7th century illiterate pedophile warmonger, then that's my business and nobody else's!

[–]LiberatedDeathStarSC 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree. You should not be shamed or obligated into doing so. People can have their own tastes, and if French people want to stay with French people, then let them. That's their preference, and they (and us) can do whatever the hell they want.

I wouldn't want a female relative of mine to go with someone of such a religion either, it would be concerning. It would require a lot of convincing for them to get me to think that they would treat a relative right, given their belief system.

[–]Jesus-Fuckin-TrumpTN 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Soros entertainment and (((company))) convinced hords of women to do this on their own. There has been a massive campaign to erase white men from entertainment and advertising. Or if there is a white man, he is always smaller than the black, or sitting below the black looking up at him. This is just one example of the thousands of tricks (((they))) use. The West is commi g back in a big way and it is being led by Brave White Men like Putin and Trump

[–]RICHCISWHITEMALE 57ポイント58ポイント  (1子コメント)

STATE SANCTIONED RAPE

[–]smp501SC 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

France is currently about 10% muslim. Sarkozy's bad policy has been fucking the people of France for years now, and I guess he's just ready to move from the big picture to the individual...

[–]Ovadia_YosefIL 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

(((Sarkozy)))

[–]Shiyya27NLD 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Degenerate

[–]supcom2WA 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–]BrodyKrautTX 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

That image does weird things to my eyes.

[–]average_user_421 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Guys Poland will soon be the most powerful country in Europe. The Pol-Russo Alliance will form and conquest debilitated Europe. Kebabs will be gulaged.

[–]tjandearlPA 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hope russia lays waste to the west, we're too far cucked

[–]i_ii_ii_iMI 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

MegaCUCK

[–]TheKingofTheNord 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

REMOVE BAGUETTE

[–]Jesus-Fuckin-TrumpTN 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

WE ARE FIGHTING FOR OUR SURVIVAL. JOIN A NATIONALIST GROUP. HAVE 3+KIDS. BUY FOOD. BUY AMMO.

[–]ironshadowdragonAUS 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

So do we hate Islam AND Jews now?

[–]ZonflaxVA 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sounds like Paraguay.

[–]_dunno_lolTX 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Traitors will get the worse of it when "it" happens.

[–]MadeThisForDownvotes 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

hands down, this is one of the chilling things I have heard a political figurehead say in my lifetime.

It's as chilling as when the British king in Lionheart reinstates Prima Nocte and states "If we cannot get them out--We'll breed them out."

I refuse to believe this is real and will assume it is taken out of context until further confirmation from something other than google translate.

[–]DadadararadaUSA 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Put his head on a pike

Hand people like him from overpasses

[–]structuredomTX 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

this fucking terrifies me

what in the actual fuck

[–]MasterShake1171USA 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

What the fuck is going on in the world? I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS!

[–]sviraltp7101 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I know this will get buried, but I feel the need to indicated the "métissage" does not strictly mean cross breeding, and in this context almost surely means "assimilation." The fact that he goes on to say that failure would do so would result in more problems makes me conclude that he certainly means assimilation. Which is something that generally everyone can agree has been the biggest pitfall of immigration in Europe.

[–]MsWordy[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Right, but look at the transcript. Before he starts talking about métissage, he's talking about problems of inbred populations. He's literally making an argument for literal cross-breeding. (And years later he's still making the same argument, tweeting a consanguinity map.)

[–]Unacceptable_Lemons 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

U w0t m8? u bloody W0T?

[–]NotAFaggotMod 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Holy shit what the fuck

[–]Dick_n_a_Box 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

So is this like some kind of reverse Prima Nochta?

[–]polish_farmer 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

My first thought was that he could literally be saying anything and I wouldn't know the difference, and upon reading the comments it seems thats true

[–]NimbleNippleNY 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

I really hope something was lost in translation, because that's terrifying.

[–]EceeFRA 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

French here, he doesn't mean forcing people to breed with immigrants, he's saying that he wants more of them in schools, college, the workplace and that if that doesn't happen willingly, state will force affirmative action

[–]bsbrryUSA 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

time for revolution

[–]FactsOverFeelingsUSA 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

THEY COME AS AN ACT OF LOVE DO NOT WORRY!! /s

[–]ProudKnightNOR 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

what the fuck....

[–]OttoVonDrumpf 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

And we all thought Hitler was the bad guy ...

[–]TAmtb11NY 3ポイント4ポイント  (12子コメント)

OH, SO NOW WE ARE GOING TO START THE EUGENICS THING AGAIN? GREAT IDEA.

[–]MsWordy[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

You realize there are two sorts of eugenics, positive and negative, right? Incentivizing smart people to have children is still eugenics.

What Sarkozy is talking about is really dysgenics.

[–]smp501SC 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

So let me get this straight - this donkey wants foreign Muslims to intermarry with mainly liberal agnostics or Christians? How does he think the children will be raised? It's not like one of those groups has a known history sending "apostates" to places like Pakistan for lesser offenses...

"Welcome to the Islamic Republic of France. To the left you'll see the jihadist training camp for boys and on the right you'll see where girls have their genitals mutliated to prevent fornication with non-muslim pig-dog infedels. C'est la vie!"

[–]milkhotdogCAN 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

FUCK OFF. People can love who they love and make babies with them. Is it so bad that someone might make babies with someone who is the same race? How do you think the children will feel knowing they're alive just because their parents were forced to make mixed babies?

[–]TheBigRedRocket 4ポイント5ポイント  (9子コメント)

If you don't want your candidate to be associated with racism, don't post poorly made videos (lack of context edits/falsified translations) by white supremacists.

Sarkozy spoke of the French identity as being a cross breeding of cultures (just like our society). In this speech he was acknowledging that French people who descended from other lands that were part of the French empire or who family migrated to France, were not being strong represented in education, politics, and other areas of French society. He speaks of it not just as a racial issue but as a socio-economic issue (that of the poor neighborhoods getting poorer with fewer opportunities and rich communities limiting opportunities). If they were not better integrated into education, politics, ect. voluntarily he said he would enact measures to make it happen.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/dec/18/sarkozy-diversity-policy-france-obama

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=99298290

[–]MsWordy[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

First, "white supremacist" is just a term far left groups like the SPLC throw at people who aren't going along with multiculturalism and population replacement. It's basically meaningless.

He speaks of it not just as a racial issue but as a socio-economic issue

Correct. But some commenters here are claiming the racial angle doesn't exist in his argument.

[–]TheBigRedRocket 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

We are a multicultural society which means there will be natural demographic shifts. It's not sinister. White supremacy is real as there are people and groups who see non-whites as inferior, incompatible, or a threat to their view of society. Just look at the fear the video tried to falsely create. (Also there are obvious groups such as the KKK, Blood and Honor, ect. that show that white supremacy is a view that certainly exists.)

Read the articles. The racial angle is a perspective in that if it is part of the identity of the marginalized groups.

[–]DrLemniscateUSA 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rape Culture is bad

Rape Multiculturalism is better

[–]fashy-yid 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rare combination of rape and genocide. Jesus christ.

[–]qa2PA 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's straight out of Braveheart when the king wanted to "breed the scots out of existence" by sending men to rape newlywed women.

[–]elzopiloteNV 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

He should cuck out Carla Bruni.

[–]senseirulz971 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

The translation is incorrect. Métissage can translate into interbreeding but not here. Replace interbreeding by "diversity" or "mix" and the whole thing make a lot more sense. It was a forum about equal opportunities between race in business, adminitration ...

[–]azrakels 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Facism!!!

[–]moralguardianNC 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What the fuck

[–]PESH28IRL 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That midget isn't a good specimen of anything.

[–]ClintonBanned 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

So first off, Sarkozy was defeated back in 2012 so this is at least four years old. My French isn't all that great but métissage has different meanings which can mean interbreeding but I highly doubt the president would suggest/force women to have children. A president suggesting he would force women to have sex would have been all over the news back then, but it wasn't.

Still pretty terrible to force people to mix cultures.

[–]TheGreatRohCAN 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Here's a radical thought. People fuck who they want as long as both are in it.

[–]stapuff6OH 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unless they're raped, like in Germany, Sweden, Norway and Finland.

MEN time to wake up . One day you'll have to choose sides.

[–]SuperDanceParty 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

:'(

Thank you for showing me this...

[–]MotionisedBEL 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Is he quite literally saying "If you don't want to have interracial sex you'll be having interracial rape" or am I misinterpreting something here?

[–]MsWordy[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's making the argument that civilizations have failed because of inbreeding, and that because France has always been mixed-race (leaves out: within Europe), a state policy of inter-breeding (leaves out: in a global context) is necessary and good, regardless of what the people want. There's a link to the French transcript of the entire speech somewhere in the thread.

[–]mahkerNY 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That just proves there's an agenda behind it. What an odd thing for a President to say

[–]hastyshaun 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Louis CK is already booking plane tickets to France as we speak

[–]normiemanCA 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

INTERRACIAL BREEDING GROUNDS

[–]SaladBurner 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

And he has a white wife. Glad he supports his message.

[–]BTHspooner 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

10 FEET HIGHER!!

[–]TheWallGrowsUSA 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You just activated my Trump card.

Trump's wall just got 10 feet higher!

Total height: 2720ft.

We are 100.11% of the distance to Burj Khalifa's top (2717ft)! -3ft remaining.


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[–]OP_the_RedCA 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shit like this makes me want to kill myself. I don't want to live in this world anymore

[–]nobrakesssWA 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

THIS CANNOT BE REAL

EDIT: THIS FUCKING REALLY CANT BE REAL

[–]compliancekid78 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not.

I mean, it's half real, but to the extent that the theatrical music portrays.

This is highly edited material.

[–]EceeFRA 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

he means that the state will force affirmative action, not forced breeding

[–]1q2s3e4f5t6h7u8k9o0PA 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Does anyone speak French here, is this legit? If it is: It shows how humanity is so scared of itself and its differences, that it would attempt to induce racial interbreeding to resolve problems based on racial difference. Sad.

[–]Hydra--POL 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It shows how humanity is so scared of itself and its differences

No, it's just a select few rat faced fucks with extreme hate for Europeans. Nobody with power/authority is telling non European populations that they need to be forcefully raped and impregnated by different populations.

[–]AngryMulbearCAN 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

*zip*

Your wife first, Cuckozy.

[–]jiujiujiu 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

LOL good luck with that you fucking loser.

[–]Bad_MarioOH 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why can't everyone just keep their damn heritage, isn't being different from one another a good thing.

[–]stapuff6OH 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I believe that this immigration invasion of Europe and the US are the opening moves in war for the NWO orchestrated by the CFR, George Soros and David Rockefeller. I believe that the thought of Donald Trump being elected has shaken them and their plans so badly that they have pulled the trigger. I have a feeling this Panama document is another shot of theirs designed to create chaos. Look for more in the coming days. The talk about Chase limiting withdrawals on the Drudge Report is concerning too.

Here's the plan as I see it. Look at the birth rates in the Western countries. Down to around 2 children. Muslim countries are having 8 or more children. I believe the idea is to force breed the Europeans out of existence to eliminate the only credible threat to this takeover, and to create a uniform light brown person that can be trained to work in their (super rich elites) factories. Also they need to keep the world full of consumers and slaves.

After borders are eliminated, then goods and labor will be able to flow freely across former boundries. Once this is achieved, the cost of labor will be reduced to it's lowest possible and the profit of goods will be maximized. All cash will be electronic and in their banks. I see that terrible scenario as the endgame.

I know 2 things if nothing else:

1> When you don't understand the motive behind some crazy event like mass immigration, chances are it's about money and/or power.

2> Donald Trump charging in from right field and is going to FUCK UP their NWO plan.

Listen to this theory being confirmed by some invaders in Germany this past week. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVEasdS0JdI

The Most Disturbing Video on the Islamic Invasion of Europe You'll Ever See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPKqM-TV2i8

http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?v=24

EDIT: Afterthought: I believe now that 9/11 (possibly) , the invasion of Iraq, Libya and more were all part of this plan as well as the intentional souring of relations with Putin who wants to take out ISIS. But is the creating fear, panic and chaos in the west and Obama just wants photo ops in front of his hero Che Gueverra. The goal is to create chaos and destabilize the middle east to cause the mass exodus of muslims.

In Syria, militias armed by the Pentagon fight those armed by the CIA http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-cia-pentagon-isis-20160327-story.html

Secret Pentagon Report Reveals US "Created" ISIS As A "Tool" To Overthrow Syria's President Assad - (creating mass exodus to Europe) http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-23/secret-pentagon-report-reveals-us-created-isis-tool-overthrow-syrias-president-assad

Intel Analysts: We Were Forced Out for Telling the Truth About Obama’s ISIS War http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/03/intel-analysts-we-were-punished-for-telling-the-truth-about-obama-s-isis-war.html

[–]Duke_Cesare_BorgiaTX 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

What the fuck. Have some pride in your nation and your ancestors. Charles 'the kebab hammer' Martel is rolling in his grave right now.

[–]evisceratorr 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It sounds like he wants the musims to assimilate, but they arent.

[–]DonaldTrump_ForeverPA 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's like the bizarro version of George Lincoln Rockwell.

[–]groovetonicAUS 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The fuck

[–]Darth_Sin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sarcuckzy.

[–]simpleclear 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hey everyone, there is an influx of trolls brigading the thread. Sarkozy is undoubtedly talking about race-mixing in this video. Here is another place where he makes the same point:

https://twitter.com/nicolassarkozy/status/517743553515360256

"Race-mixing enriches societies, close relationship kills them." There can be no doubt about what Sarko meant by métissage: miscegenation, race-mixing. The opposite of consanguinité. Anyone who says otherwise is just trolling.

[–]MsWordy[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks. I've been trying to point this out. Undoubtedly we're being brigaded.

[–]MorticaeOR 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

We're seeing the groundwork for World War 3....

[–]LogicalControversy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What the fuck. These people are fucking out of their minds.

[–]sloppiesCAN 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What's that, Sarkozy? All your wives have been white? :O

[–]neirCAN 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hang him.

[–]marlboro6AUS 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK. What the fuck is happening to the Western world? I am seriously sitting here considering moving to Poland.

[–]FarpathMS 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Me and my family are staying white