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[–]perrolo 147ポイント148ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have to admit reading this I smiled, it is true that we take ourselves too seriously sometimes.

[–]Magnum256 32ポイント33ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was an inch and a half taller than my father before I realized he wasn't significantly taller than me because I was a kid and kinda saw what I expected.

This is interesting. I think a lot of people have a skewed perception of how things are versus how those things are expected to be.

I remember being ~17-18 years old, not long out of high school, and still felt like a kid, I mean I'd see my dad or his friends or relatives or whatever and think "they're men, I'm still a kid" and I kind of had this perspective for a few more years after that, probably more to do with the age gap than anything (seeing older people as more mature, more adult than I was) but then I realized sometime in my early 20s that I was a full grown man, I'd look around and realize I hardly ever saw anyone that intimidated me or that was much bigger or broader than me, it was a smack in the face, changed the way I look at the world to my benefit.

I can only imagine women who might never have this kind of epiphany and who live their entire lives looking at the world through the same filter I was looking through back when I was that 17 year old kid.

[–]randarrow 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Always used to think people were taller than me if I couldn't see above their heads. Turns out doesn't work like that....

[–]Swole_is_life 82ポイント83ポイント  (8子コメント)

First one is a really good point I've never considered. Alpha until proven otherwise.

The corollary to this of course is that most men prove themselves otherwise without even saying a word. Fatness, bad posture, timid movement, etc.

I remember a girl in college telling me I "exude confidence". I realized it was simply because I was actually taking hard courses and thus always busy with somewhere to go. I couldn't afford the time to futz around and stroll from place to place like most guys.

[–]Senior ContributorCisWhiteMaelstrom[S] 39ポイント40ポイント  (4子コメント)

men prove themselves otherwise without even saying a word

Ohhhhh yes. In their minds, women are the ultimate prize and thing of value: smart, beautiful, kind, fair, strong and sweet. They show up begging, pleading, and apologizing in their own minds before they ever do a damn thing. Probably the main thing that knocks men out.

[–]madhatter393 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

The funny thing is when men are the prize, you get the cock carousel.

When women are the prize, you get the cock carousel...

Win-win for men who don't want to get married.

[–]DiamondDaedalist 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

tbh I think the CC came from birth control. Suddenly the number of tickets you can get is unlimited.

[–]Thenextprince 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

The CC is inevitable. A part of breeding/reproduction. Were just "civilized" now.

[–]JihadDerp 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

Escalate until she tells you to stop.

[–]Macrolord 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like to think of it as "every girl will give you a chance" as the flip side to "no woman is loyal". I'm still a half-cucked shrimp with a long pilgrimage ahead of me, and still, I'll get long stares from women driving who are way out of my league.

As soon as I opened my mouth, I would wipe away any interest, but until then, if you maintain a decent composure, she'll be eager to hear you serenade her with acts and words of power no matter what her sexual and social obligations currently are.

You always have a chance.

[–]DforDeadpool 43ポイント44ポイント  (7子コメント)

Women assume you're alpha as fuck until proven otherwise.

It's actually a little weird because it's true. They immediately assume you have the inner game of Chad. More so if you're fit and good-looking.

These people will marvel at their skinny boyfriend's arms and think he's genuinely jacked and that her 5'9 fuck buddy is a giant. The obvious reason is because they're mostly 5'4 110 lb shrimps, but the real reason is that they're children.

Another reason; their sexual feelings. Even a 4 would seem like a 7 in a bad day, it's similar for women also. And as another reason; emotional states. Just like you'd prefer a 5 you have the oneitis for, than a HB8. Hopefully people here are over the all oneitis shit now.

[–]empatheticapathetic 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ha your oneitis comment struck a chord with me. Whenever she comes to mind now I logically shut that down.

[–]chocobaby 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good. I'm wrestling with that at the moment. I did spend the day with new cutie who's just now texted me a request for more of me so...onward and inward!

[–]PIGamer86 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thus the disappointment and disgust you receive if you're not Alpha. It's one thing to come in without any expectations, it's another to be completely disappointed because of failing expectations.

[–]chocobaby 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, that explains the reaction women give if you fall off your game.

[–]JakeFromState_Farm_ 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

More so if you're fit and good-looking.

Not even necessarily good looking, but well-dressed and with a good haircut. I'm fit and dress well and work at a barbershop but my face is not pretty to look at. As long as my frame is solid, most women don't seem to care. Being alpha doesn't mean having a pretty face. How many pretty face betas are out there? It means having an alpha lifestyle.

[–]DforDeadpool 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm fit and dress well and work at a barbershop but my face is not pretty to look at.

Well, as long as you're masculine. Some men are the equivalent of butterface women. They still can get laid without a problem.

[–]Boovs4life 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I actually have a decent looking face and i almost always get compliments about my eyes. My problem is since i suffered from severe acne, i have the aftermath left which is the acne scars and the only way i can get rid of that is if i pay hundreds on the Dermatologist to get rid of it. So for now I'm pretty screwed.

[–]RedPillMeditations 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

Women assume you're alpha as fuck until proven otherwise

I know a lot of people are saying this is false, but think about the hamster. She most likely has hamstered herself into thinking that you're all these things that give her tingles, until you open you mouth....

Women have a lot of trouble with physical objects

This goes for penis size too. I always see posts in askTRP about size. Let me tell you, these bitches couldn't tell you an accurate measurement if you held a ruler up to it.

[–]Baylien2 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

If she can hold it while sucking then its big to her.

[–]--HankMoody-- 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hahaha, so damn true. Someone recently said "when my girl is angry at me I have a 4 inch cock, when she is happy with me it is an 8 inch cock, it's actually six inches"

[–]1introvertp 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

Keep the first point in the back of your mind and it will be so easy to approach. Most women think you have your shit together, because generally they don't. *Just don't say anything to ruin that.

[–]KermitTheeFrog777 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sadly I've found this is key LTR game as well. Dont bitch about anything she can't help you with. Work is always "good" and "busy". No, I never have time to TRP for an hour at work, who do you think I am?

[–]1max_peenor 24ポイント25ポイント  (16子コメント)

the real reason is that they're children.

Maybe but we also know it is how they are wired. They just don't have the natural spacial skills that men have. How do women like to get driving directions? A list of streets and turns. Men? Give us a fucking map and put an X on it. Women just simply don't understand that our orientation in the physical word is a natural sense--we literally feel where we are.

Want to watch something funny? Head out to an Ikea on a Saturday. Get there around 1-ish. And then observe dozens of women try to fit a 125 sq ft cube of furniture and other shit they just bought into their sedans. I live in the sfbay area and at the Ikea in Emeryville I watched a lesbian couple almost go to fisticuffs they were so frustrated with each other. I fuck near pissed myself laughing when this tiny old asian guy told them in his broken english that it was never going to happen. Ikea delivery services no doubt made another sale that day.

It took my wife 20 years to figure out she should ask me if something might fit in her car before she bought it. I have literally had to break down furniture in a parking lot in the dark so I could get her and it home. Thank god for cellphones now...

Btw, I don't advocate shopping at Ikea. Buy some real furniture that is going to last. However, they seem to have hacked the hamster somehow, because despite the cheapness, women of all economic strata seem to love going there. I really hope someday I figure this out, because it would truly become Red Pill on easy mode.

[–]chocobaby 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

Love your observations. Only comment is about the IKEA conundrum. To a woman, IKEA is the CC but in nesting mode. Now do you understand? She can imagine living in that bedroom with Dexter, that one with Thomas, and of course, that one with Chad. Kitchens, baths...same.

[–]Redasshole 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

My mom and her girlfriends go on trips to IKEA regularly even though they don't have anything to buy. Their idea of a fun day is to go there and eat IKEA's food (which is fucking expensive). I swear it looks like it's the CC to them.

[–]libchh 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

ikea's food is like the cheapest thing ever in sweden. Not very high quality, but definitely cheap to boot

[–]1max_peenor 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

You know, I think you are on to something here. They cluster products into sub-brands that are very consistent within the sub, but but very different to the other subs. They give them some retarded fake Swedish name as a brand identity. And then obsolete each brand every few years--never to be seen again, creating Ikea Couch Widows.

[–]chocobaby 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's always Cost Plus/ World Market. And Chad.

[–]disgruntledearthling 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've been thinking about hanging out in the IKEA loading area with my pickup waiting for some babe to hit me up to carry shit that doesn't fit. 20$ plus a trip to her place?

[–]meukow 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's the branding, branding is fuckloads important in the age we live in. I, as an early 20s guy who never shopped for furniture, if someone would ask me where to go and buy furniture, I'd say IKEA or another famous local furniture store, I only know those two. Due to branding.

I am aware IKEA is garbage, but people, and women love to say they bought they shit at IKEA, it's like saying they bought the new Louboutins. They feel satisfied for shopping at such store, being part of the trend and brand.

[–]1max_peenor 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Classic marketing, but what mystifies me is how they overcome the quality question with such ease. Yeah, 7-11 has made it very clear to me that they sell slurpees, but I prefer an Icee. This chicks can't resist this slurpee.

[–]meukow 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm in a country where IKEA came just last year, I wasn't aware it was garbage until a couple of months ago, accidentally.

When they came they put out this huge book-like magazine that showcased IKEA like it was a top-tier company for only the rich ones, you know the one where 1 cheap lamp takes over a whole page? I literally thought thats what they were, how was I supposed to know.

I guess people can't differ quality furniture from cheap one.

Branding, branding, branding.

[–]hectortamerofwhores 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

In China walmart stores are typically massive high-end mall complexes, and that's how they try to market themselves. (the subtext being: be a rich American, shop the Walmart way)

[–]meukow 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's what I'm talking about.

[–]KermitTheeFrog777 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you hand me a list of turns, I will tear it to pieces in front of your face.

[–]rwwman50 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

This can be necessary at times. One of our facilities at work has an address on the other side of a bridge that is closed. When I have to direct someone there It is necessary to tell them the streets to turn on to route them around the bridge to the back entrance. Otherwise they could never get there.

EDIT: also necessary when you don't know address or it doesn't exist. I'm a park ranger so when giving directions down trails there isn't a better way than saying make a right where the blue and red trails cross, then take the orange trail at the fork... I could give people GPS coordinates but that would be far harder for people to deal with.

[–]randarrow 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, and when they fucking argue with each other while trying to communicate a list of turns, each suggesting different turns making it more confusing!

[–]Zagiggity 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jesus I hadn't realized this until just now but earlier today I had to help load a kid-sized basketball goal into a lady's car. The entire 2 minutes she apologized incessantly that it was too big to fit. It did fit.

[–]CQC3 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

I always wondered about these random bitch boys hanging around hotties. I just assumed that the cost of being permitted into that group was a sacrifice of ego and reputation. Youre allowed to be around only for the sheer fact that you have to show yourself to be a total pushover niceguy. Girls are more defensive With guys that give them tingles and often don't let you do friendship type stuff because they've categorized you as something different.

[–]rigbyismyhomie 21ポイント22ポイント  (8子コメント)

So, initially I thought this post was clickbait, but the more I think about it the more truths I see here. Gonna analyze for my own purposes.

Women assume you're alpha as fuck until proven otherwise.

Yeah, I get what other posters here are saying, but in those cases they're only proven wrong by girls who they wouldn't want to be around anyway. In my current social situation, people met me at my worst. It's nearly impossible for me to come off as alpha to any of those people who have seen me weak. In fact, the only ones who downright adore me are the ones who barely knew me when I first got here. I notice a significant difference in the way that people treat me between those who have known me for awhile, and those who I'm just meeting. It's night and day.

Your time is so valuable that nearly any woman will want it.

I used to hang out at the bar because I didn't want to be at home. In this time, I met a girl who was a 21yo who spent a few days alone at the bar herself. I knew this was a huge red flag, so I started an experiment. After we first met I would go talk to her when she was there. I started off with what I thought was inappropriate, but she liked it, so I remained flirty and carefree. However, I wanted to see if her attitude would change towards me the more we talked.

Over time, she stopped adoring me and started treating me like any other person. The last time we talked, she said something I didn't like, so I called her out on it, and she got so pissed off she walked away. I had become low value to her because I spent too much time around her.

I stopped spending all my time at the bar. A few weeks ago, we happened to run into each other. It was like the first night we met, she was very touchy, laughed when I said anything, and even asked me to go home with her. What I learned is that women value your time, but at a certain point, familiarity breeds contempt.

From this lesson, and what I think OP is trying to convey, is that women are time vampires; and they will drag you on a string just for the validation they get from you being present. Use this to your advantage.

Women have a lot of trouble with physical objects.

In High School, I made the all state soccer team when I was a sophomore. This put a target on my back for rest of my time there. After the first game of the next season, I realized that my coach changed my stats to read 6'0; 175lbs. This was 2 inches taller and 15 lbs heavier than I actually was. I asked my coach why he did it, and he told me that no one will ever be able to tell what a man's height and weight is; so you might as well use it to play with your opponents head a little bit.

Ever since I always say that I'm 6'0", and ignore or amplify when a fat chick tries to tell me otherwise.

[–]Moolg86 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

In fact, the only ones who downright adore me are the ones who barely knew me when I first got here. I notice a significant difference in the way that people treat me between those who have known me for awhile, and those who I'm just meeting. It's night and day.

Adoration is the state furthest from understanding.

[–]rigbyismyhomie 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very true, but are you trying to make an objective assertion that being understood is better than being adored?

[–]madhatter393 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

Ever since I always say that I'm 6'0", and ignore or amplify when a fat chick tries to tell me otherwise.

They don't even get the time of day from me.

[–]rigbyismyhomie 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Agreed, but I'm like a fucking fat chick magnet. It's proven to me that when a girl is interested in you, the less time of day you give her the more she fights for your attention.

[–]JihadDerp 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is stage 2. Stage 3 is when fat chicks are nervous around you because they know you're out of their league, and you're an average chick magnet. Stage 4 is when average girls are nervous to talk to you and you're a hot chick magnet.

[–]Plan_of_Action 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

Neo: What are you trying to tell me? That I can dodge fat chicks? Morpheus: No, Neo. I’m trying to tell you that when you’re ready, you won’t have to.

Edit: Now I'm picturing a group of fatties running at Neo and he just raises his hand and says no and they stop in their tracks.

[–]voomer53 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

it's an organic, natural phenomenon...if you are not really attracted to a girl you wil have perfect, airtight outcome independence. This guarantees she will be attracted to you.

[–]squarehead93 20ポイント21ポイント  (14子コメント)

Women assume you're alpha as fuck until proven otherwise

Not to be that guy, but I think this defnintely doesn't apply to everyone. If you're very "ethnic" looking (Indian, Pakistani, etc) exceptionally short, or not athletic looking at all the default response is to put such men in the "invisible" pile until proven otherwise. This can definitely be overcome, but let's not kid ourselves, some men are just not going to inspire any sort of Alpha tingles at first glance, and perhaps even signal the opposite.

[–]hipfash3 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know guys with Indian lineage in Silicon Valley alpha as fuck. They are not all your pretty boy type with good look and height. Their SMV comes from other places like their prized skill set, lifestyle, oozing confidence and very often the unbowed tough attitude.

So if they walk into bar alone, I wouldn't be surprised if they're judged by their looks. In a social situation however, it's almost impossible not to notice their SMV.

[–]Gelu_sf 7ポイント8ポイント  (6子コメント)

You're right, however the maxim applies to men she MEETS and has an initial positive reaction to. Since she has a positive reaction to a guy she will assume he's alpha as fuck, until he shows himself as the doormat he is.

Due to her solipsistic nature she cannot acknowledge the fact that she might be influenced by superficial information such as looks, so she will bestow the man the qualities she finds atractive.

However if you're a 5' Patel you will be invisible to her, so you fail to enter the first criteria anyways.

[–]CQC3 -4ポイント-3ポイント  (5子コメント)

Hahaha I know a couple Patels, whats the deal with those guys?

[–]KingRead 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

So when Indians were emigrating to the Western countries and needed to fill in the paper work, most just used Patel as a last name. I know several Patel families, but when you really get to know them you learn that they actually have a 'real' last name that's not Patel.

[–]Freiling 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Why would they use an alternate last name?

[–]tekn0_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Easier to give the common impression to the immigration officers.

[–]Freiling 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sorry, "common impression?" I'm not sure what you mean.

[–]tekn0_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You have lot of castes and categories of Indians. Since the Patels have a history of being the caste / surname associated with less immigration trouble and issues, the bias the immigration officers holds towards the Patel is manipulated by other Indians into giving off a favorable impression (that is common to the immigration officers). That would be my easiest guess.

[–]rabbit_hunter 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know an Indian dude who grew up in the UK and has a posh accent. Struts around, ultra-confident, narcissistic, condescendingly polite, great banter. When they learn of his ethnicity, girls are surprised. "You don't look Indian" they say. But he does.

If you don't conform to the negative stereotype, girls will just be blind to your ethnicity ala inattentional blindness. Not to say they would see him as white.

[–]Senior ContributorCisWhiteMaelstrom[S] 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

Gonna have to disagree. Guys with immutable characteristics like being short or non-white psyche themselves out and have, in my view, objectively worse conduct that fucks with them worse than their immutable characteristics. Being Indian and hitting on women is like being Indian and applying to college--yes you're disadvantaged and yes it's easy to think "I can't do 200 points better than whites can :(" but ones who don't cuck themselves still get into brilliant universities all the time.

[–]Swole_is_life 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right, I've definitely known some annoying little shrimp men of varying ethnicities who were always inexplicably surrounded by beautiful women. I realize now it's because they basically strutted like peacocks everywhere they went.

Now squarehead is right in the sense that you can't be physically repulsive (e.g. fat) but that's just because it shows you're not alpha by virtue of your appearance.

In simple terms, there is a massive difference from the beginning if a short Indian guy is fat, dressed like a slob and walks like his dog just died vs one well-groomed, in shape, wearing a suit and walking like he knows where he is going.

[–]squarehead93 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Guys with immutable characteristics like being short or non-white psyche themselves out and have, in my view, objectively worse conduct that fucks with them worse than their immutable characteristics.

No doubt about it. Half of it is definitely mental. But I think for a lot of guys those behaviors aren't something they just developed in a vacuum. They are the way they are because women generally don't see ethnic and short men, among others, as sexual beings by default. Again, this can definitely be overcome with game, gym, hobbies, better friends, new clothes, etc. There are very few men who can't get laid if they don't put in the work. Some are just going to have to work a lot harder. And for short and ethnic men who have been betafied by years of game unawareness, the mental mountain is going to be the hardest to overcome.

[–]--HankMoody-- 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Chris Rock talks about this. JT Tran also has some great statistics and observations. Distilling from their observations it might look like this as to who fucks who, and their ranking: (I know there are exceptions but the rules generally hold true)

  • Black girls - black guys, maybe white guys
  • Asian girls - white guys, asian guys, maybe black guys
  • White girls - white guys, black guys

  • Black guys - all girls (to quote Chris Rock, "what's on the menu")

  • White guys - white girls, asian girls, maybe black girls

  • Asian guys - asian girls

Asian guys have got it the worst. All asian guys should watch all of JT Tran (Asian playboy) videos. Read his stuff, maybe even throw the guy some coin. I know we have a dim view of pick up artists here but if someone is fixing up your shit specifically, then it is possibly worth a week or two in gym fees.

[–]DreamsOnReplay 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Black girls aren't maybe white guys, I'd almost say they prefer them over black dudes if they can get it...

[–]cheechawcheechaw 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I like this post. It has a very positive feeling to it. Would love more of those.

[–]Endorsed Contributor2comment 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

These people will marvel at their skinny boyfriend's arms and think he's genuinely jacked and that her 5'9 fuck buddy is a giant. The obvious reason is because they're mostly 5'4 110 lb shrimps, but the real reason is that they're children. I was an inch and a half taller than my father before I realized he wasn't significantly taller than me because I was a kid and kinda saw what I expected. Most women don't actually meet Arnold Schwarzenegger types--and only talk like they do because they get overly excited over nothing.

There's an old joke, goes something like this:

Q: "Why can't women measure anything for shit?"

A: "Because they've been told" [holds out thumb and pointer finger about 5 inches apart] "this is 8 inches their entire life."

[–]randarrow 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Because they make up meaningless numbers to describe the things they buy, which they then buy off of subjective feelings rather than any objective reasoning?

For example, what the fuck is a size 8 and why the fuck is it not standardized.

[–]Freiling 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

they

Marketing psychology - no one's exempt. Some men's clothing lines are eliminating the "Small" size and starting at Medium.

[–]Endorsed Contributortheultmatecad 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wonder if you simplified the argument that a man's time is deeply valuable with your pudgy orbiter example.

I view the man as the prize as he provides:

Resources

Attention (time)

Emotional stability.

Notice dick ain't a provision. Dick is abundant to most females.

Anyway, orbiters contribute resources and emotional stability as well as attention (less valuable than a high SMV mans attention for sure)

So orbiters do have value but it ain't shit compared to the validation of a horrible asshole with abs, attitude and a stack of plates who want to fuck him

[–]Endorsed ContributorThotwrecker 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Great reality check. Women screen for the top % of men. But women also screen and make decisions - if you can even call it decisions - in a way that is neither conscious nor logical. We get hung up on the breakdown on SMV into separate categories, because that's how the divide & conquer male mentality works. Systematic analysis of all of the parts that form the whole.

Women just look at the 'whole.' Then they look around and see how OTHER women are looking at the 'whole'. If they get a good vibe, they construct some rationalization for why they are attracted to that guy, something that makes them feel like a special snowflake.

[–]OilyB 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

<Women assume you're alpha as fuck until proven otherwise.>

Imho this goes for the whole of Western women. They've progressed a ton but still have a need to look up to men, consequently they're disappointed when a guy proves to be sub par. It's an indication that women have impossible expectations of us which is why only the top 20% of guys get noticed. The 80% are not normal, no, they're misfits. Still, women see themselves as normal human beings who are allowed to have issues. Men? No, men are being held to deity standards. If you're subdeity, you're trash, failed as a human being.

The result is that women view men as newly purchased color tv's - if there's anything wrong with you, you need to be exchanged for an infallible unit. Problem is: there's no real love possible if she thinks you're an infallible object, only consumerism.

True love assumes fallible humanity and sticks with a person in spite of him being imperfect.

[–]colucci 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Women assume you're alpha as fuck until proven otherwise.

False. If you're a 220lb 5'7 lard of fat with infinite chins, no one will assume you're alpha. Your ranking on the social hierarchy will be decided by your demeanor - posture, looks, hygiene, walk, facial expression, etc.

If anything, you're beta until proven otherwise. That's what shit-tests are for.

Your time is so valuable that nearly any woman will want it.

Again, false as demonstrated by the large amount of flakes in the dating industry. If they're not attracted to you, they don't want your time.

[–]zue3 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's because they're starting off with negative vibes. Guys who are fat and unkempt have already proven themselves to be beta. On the other hand, girls consider even normal looking, well dressed and groomed guys to be alpha without even talking to them.

Get rid of your negative thinking, it's only blinding you to the truth. If you always assume the worst, you won't ever see the best.

[–]John_E_Vegas 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't disagree. But before you take too much comfort in this:

Unless you're really quite pathetic, she's not even gonna consider the possibility that you're not a winner until you force her to.

Keep in mind women are also perfectly capable of judging a book by its cover.

So, if you're a complete slob, she's only going to give you the benefit of the doubt until she gets close enough to know better.

[–]JakeFromState_Farm_ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm saving this and reading it next time I feel down. I've felt great the last few weeks, but I know the time will come. Thank you for writing this!

[–]Fiendish 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

God damn, best post I've seen on this sub.

[–]Luckyluke23 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

A lot of guys lament over that, taking it to mean that the standard for merely getting noticed is through the roof. That's the wrong way to take it though. In her mind, she's almost never seen a man who didn't meet these crazy high standards and so it's downright illogical for her to think she's just met one. Unless you're really quite pathetic, she's not even gonna consider the possibility that you're not a winner until you force her to.

this has been a struggle for as late.

but what yu are saying is, BECAUSE she only sees 10% of males. THOSE 10% of males are in scarcity and there for ALL males are seen as 10%ters until proven otherwise. .

This just blew my fucking mind like... so hard core... I can't even... what?!

Most women don't actually meet Arnold Schwarzenegger types--and only talk like they do because they get overly excited over nothing.

because they are children... now I get it...

my mind is like a vase that fell to the floor and is now shatterd in a million peices.

[–]drawingfor 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Women assume you're alpha as fuck until proven otherwise.

This can be life changing to someone who use self-sabotaging language to motivate himself to change. It's like starting with a billion dollars instead of a thousand. With a billion you have room to maneuver and make mistakes and not feel much, but with a thousand you are stuck thinking of the best possible way to approach and just paralyzed by self-consciousness. This is the sentence I can keep reminding myself to not be afraid of taking action toward the positive way instead of being stuck in the head.

Your time is so valuable that nearly any woman will want it.

I have to pause a bit to think about this. Is not that every girl you like will want to look at you and give you attention, it's more about the mindset that you can do without the attention. At the basic level you treat them like any person, since you have a positive outlook of life and you treat life as an adventure and have fun all the way, you don't come from a place of need....

The trouble comes when you catch yourself confirming if a girl looks at you and you do nothing but walk away self consciously, continuing the self-frustration. Some people surround themselves with activities, failing to see that girls want your attention but they also want you to initiate the relationship. Some people (myself included) internalize that if girls fail to initiate then they are not being good enough, when in reality the girl's probably wet but hiding it waiting or not. When your time is actually valuable and you believe it, you're free everyday to get the best girl you can get and you know you can be happy without her (you can just do what you do again, your time and actions are valuable). It is a good mantra, and a good reminder to pursue challenges instead of settling for mediocrity and shame.

e- a good exercise is to just to take inventory of how much you accomplish today and the week, and what you have (a bed, clothes, etc) and really use the gratitude to see that you are a valuable person instead of conforming to the stereotypes. Think when we are happy about the little things then we come from a place of full instead of empty. Even taking inventory of the little things like you walked instead of taking the elevator or you helped someone pick up their dropped change will induce more of these things happening...

Good post, will implement and try to say these,with conviction, to myself a lot as a start.

[–]deadsandsushi 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

1 is not true at all and neither is #3. What world are you living in? Women know plenty about beta men and many high value women lift weights themselves and know a guy with 14" arms isn't jacked.

This is April Fool's, right?

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    [–]CurrentlyBulking 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Deadlifts and sushi? You know how to live

    [–]prophecycake 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I know, that's what I was thinking. I'm not sure of who all these women who don't know what an inch is, but women who take the time to become aware of their spatial surroundings develop acute awareness of it, just like anyone else, and they are even capable of applying it in practical and recreational circumstances. Crazy, I know.

    [–]Il128 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Sadly women do not think or have opinions of their own.

    [–]smokecheck1976 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

    LOL! You want to know something really funny? How tall do you think Arnold Schwarzenegger is? Now, go to google and look up pictures of him standing beside Clair Danes in Terminator 3. She is noticeably taller, and her height is well established.

    [–]The__Tren__Train -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

    so you're saying that Arnold is less than 5'5..?

    ..

    [–]smokecheck1976 -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

    LOL, I won't say anything. Just let the pictures do the talking. Also, when you think of bodybuilders, a lot of times a the smaller guys have an easier time building an impressive physique.

    [–]The__Tren__Train 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Arnold is well-established as being over 6 feet tall.. you don't have a clue what you're talking about lol

    I couldn't find the pictures you are referring to, go ahead and post links if you want..

    [–]Plan_of_Action 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Please do post the pic. This is interesting. He could be shorter now due to posture, spinal compression and joint damage. My dad is much shorter now in his 60s than he was at my age.

    [–]godiebiel 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The first one is the main paradox.

    If you prove yourself, then you are beta, if you don't then alpha. Just keep on going, if you look back then you justify your betaness, if you keep looking forward, then (more probably) a fuckling alpha.

    As such (and this is TRP LPT) Do Not Give A FuckTM

    [–]plenkton 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Women have a lot of trouble with physical objects.

    Asked women to estimate a volume, believed her, later found out that "over half" = "less than a quarter."

    Then, I asked her to estimate a length, which I know is 11inches. She said 2. I showed her how long an inch is. She said 3.

    Just tell chicks you are [height] x 1.25.

    [–]AlphaEndoGorillaKing 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The first point is a good one, i'm noticing a lot of really attractive women are totally open to ANYONE approaching them, and even throughout an interaction they stay OPEN and RECEPTIVE to anyone, even guys most people would consider low value/beta. It's an effective because usually what happens is low value/beta guys end up breaking themselves or running out of things to say and end the interaction without ever being rejected. Interesting technique. Anyone else notice this?

    [–]AllenArken 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I can 100% confirm that women have trouble with physical objects. My girlfriend thought I was 6'+ even after we've been together a few years. A friend of mine thought I was 5'8" - the top of her head was just about my chin height. I'm 5'11" - girls don't know how to measure for shit.

    [–]masnera 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I do believe in the third one, yeah women are not good in measurements, because measurements requires logic...but those remaining two.

    I do believe this is a feel-good-article, nothing more.

    [–]--HankMoody-- 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Amazing that it takes someone else to point these things out. When I found my self single after a very long LTR I quickly learned that being a nice guy, buying dinners, giving compliments was a waste of time for getting laid, but women will happily donit over and over again.

    Then I discovered game. Now at the time I was extremely skinny, I am at best average in looks but I am quite tall. Once I learned the fundamentals of game: eye contact, comfort and rapport, kino, confidence, rapid escalation I was getting laid almost every time I really found the girl attractive.

    Now as I said, back then I was very thin and I am average looking. However these girls were all telling me how handsome I was. They were saying things like "you look just like Guy Pearce. I look nothing like him but in their mind I was skinny and handsome, so is Guy Pearce, therefore I look like Guy Pearce - I DON'T LOOK LIKE HIM AT ALL.

    Now this lasted for some time, almost 2 years. Even though now I am not too skinny and I am much fitter, I started getting rejected more often. Then I slipped backwards, forgot to be cocky. I sometimes chased and texted to quickly, I complimented them on their looks. I paid for meals. Guess what happened. I am scraping it back together but recently I have been rejected by 7s when I used to get first night lays with 8s and 9s.

    Sometime I forget I am the prize. I act because I am wanting sex, I forget that abundance mentality is crucial. Thanks for this concise summary pointing me back the right way.

    [–]Trump4GodEmperor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Bitches tell me and their friends that my dick is 9" long. Thank god for sub-par spatial reasoning ability.

    [–]DPestWork 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    3 is EXTRA true No use adding my own anecdotal evidence, but I see evidence of this happening almost every day!

    [–]Criket 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Nope, not all women are like that. My ex wife was a monster like you're described but im lucky enough to find a wonderful girlfriend.

    [–]darkrood 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    why good looking women even want a low value man's time at all. I certainly don't want the weird little cucks who orbit chicks to spend any time with me, so why do women want it?

    Ahh, I've cracked that one for ya.

    People don't want to FEEL LONELY.

    Doesn't matter if she is a barmaid or the Queen of England, loneliness is the elephant in the room that she doesn't want to hear or see.

    Hence, many people, male or female, fill the space between them and the elephant with people, lots of people. That way, she never have to be alone to accidentally do some deep and critical self-reflection.

    As an Orbiter, you don't want to face it that your approach to women is actually fucked because you GOT FREINDZ

    As a barhoping slut, you don't have to face the music that hot guys just see you as a fleshy fuck toy and nothing more

    However, because likes attracts like, eventually noone with quality will stay in this circle for long. Hence you see they marry each other. :D

    [–]CurrentlyBulking 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The physical objects part is definitely true. My last girlfriend thought I was ripped even though her brothers are more muscular than me. A girl I orbited before I found TRP thought we were the same height even though I'm a 4 inches taller than her

    [–]Stiffmajj 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Women's spatial awareness is only so bad because they constantly get told 5 inches are 9.

    [–]The__Tren__Train 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    These people will marvel at their skinny boyfriend's arms and think he's genuinely jacked

    that's actually them hamstering their beta boyfriend into an Alpha.

    a girl I knew starting dating a guy, 5'8 140lbs soaking wet.. complete shrimp.. and afraid of everything

    ..on top of that, he's got genital herpes.

    girl was about a 7 or so.

    her solution to dating a venereal disease-infested beta?

    hamster him into an alpha.

    (I have no idea how the fuck she did this, but I guess as a guy, im not supposed to understand these mental gymnastics).

    [–]SightlessObserver -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

    This concept can be pretty ambigious. Does her betabux that she loathes exist in her reality? He must exist since she hates him, but is he in the top20% then?

    Also, how would you know if you exist in her reality?

    [–]Baylien2 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    He exists. Just doesn't count as a man.

    [–]aanarchist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    it's kinda like if her dog starts humping her leg she's like gross stop it. she sees hubby as a poodle.