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Teen rape culture? Straight identified boys criticized for wanting consensual relationships. Jazz Jennings: Transgender Teen Tells Oprah Winfrey Boys Don't Like Her. (people.com)

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[–]citellus 17ポイント18ポイント  (8子コメント)

I feel bad for Jazz. He's a victim of medicalized gay conversion therapy and has been cast by his homophobic sexist parents into sexual no-man's land. Straight men won't want him. He probably won't even want gay men, because what would that mean. The men who want him will probably be "chasers" for the most part. His entire romantic and sexual future has been stolen from him, because as a little tot he "always loved dolls, dresses, sparkles, everything feminine". Sure he comes off like a self-absorbed teenage boy quite often, but considering he's a victim of some pretty horrible child abuse, it all just makes me very sad.

[–]GuineaPigParade 13ポイント14ポイント  (4子コメント)

I was about to reply basically the same thing. His parents and doctors trained him, from a very young age, to think that he is a girl, or that he could become a girl. He was lied to.

I hope some day Jazz is able to find a partner for a meaningful, reciprocal relationship, rather than becoming a novelty plaything for some chaser/fetishist. Unfortunately, Jazz's parents and doctors set him up for the latter when he was just a small tot, and he was too young to have any say in it.

[–]citellus 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

I really think the level of 'recruitment' we see with these kids is part of an effort to skew the trans demographics overall. When more of the transgender population is made up of these kids, it's going to change the tone of the debate -- obviously to have to be much more sympathetic than is warranted at this time. Addressing these kids when they're grown up, there's going to have to be more of: "I'm really sorry what was done to you [but...]" rather than what you see much more of today, "no you can't endanger girls and women cause you get off on it, you heterosexual fetishist fuckwads".

[–]vulvapeople 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Some trans activists have made it clear that recruiting kids into this is meant to desexualize motivations for transitioning.

[–]raulbikscube 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

but isn't the whole argument that you'll never be convincingly pretty/handsome if you don't start early?

it's so creepy hearing them talk about it like young children ought to be preparing for their future sexual attractiveness as opposed to just being kids

[–]AndyFatBoyMorrisSomeones Dad 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I fear it's more likely fresh meat.

[–]wanderingwombAuntie Wanda 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

There are going to be more children like him until this whole trend collapses in on itself and we get a decade of painful exposés as our next trend.

[–]thatMarciawoman 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, I feel sorry for him as well. He was so young, and has not only been made all sorts of promises for the future which are quite simply not going to come to fruition, but he has done it all very much in the public eye.

[–]lonewomanbiker 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

He only got positive responses from adults when he played a stereotypical 'girl'. Children want to please adults and remain in the behavior that earns the most positive attention. It probably started out with 'He's cute enough to be a girl' and became progressively worse and more abusive and conforming after that. He is the victim of Munchhausen by proxy.

[–]SnowdivaahLez Snow Queen[S] 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

No one owes anyone a date. Stop with the entitlement!

[–]wanderingwombAuntie Wanda 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

But he's special! He's been told he's special for doing this for most of his life!

[–]radmoon 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

This child said he wanted to "throw" his husband's sperm into his sister's "vag" to have a kid. He is annoying af.

[–]genderfeelzOvarian-American 19ポイント20ポイント  (3子コメント)

For the most part boys aren't really accepting of me because I am transgender and therefore not many guys have crushes on me at my school.

Ew, this reeks of male sexual entitlement combined with the lies he's been fed during his "special snowflake trans kid" upbringing.

Meanwhile, actual (hetero) teen girls who notice that “not many guys have crushes on [them] at school” probably respond with self-hate, not blaming everyone else for their supposed narrow-mindedness.

[–]SnowdivaahLez Snow Queen[S] 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

IKR girls internalize it, boys blame,others. Good point. Vile sexual entitlement.

[–]Romanesque 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

sounds like some nice guy bullshit, where they feel like the world owns them a bf

[–]SnowdivaahLez Snow Queen[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Did you see the video? Jj didn't want the other girls to have boys either. It's all cool when it is lipstick and nail polish and the other girls are cool with it, but the reality sucks, If you don't want people to feel betrayed, be transparent about sex. Plus the homophobia is absurd. Gay is bad in this video.

[–]theunterrified 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Person A: "Why don't you want to fuck me?"

Person B: "Because I'm not attracted to you."

Person A: "Hey! Everyone! I'm being oppressed"

This is totally beyond the pale now.

[–]endoftheliner 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not surprising, knowing teen-aged boys the way I do--raised 2 of my own, have a grandson and now great-grandson.

When you're straight, hetero (I'm not up on the modern lingo) you're not going to be turned on by someone you know is not really what they claim to be, like JJ. I think kids are smart enough to know what "gender spectrum" is, but changing your sex through hormones and surgery has nothing to do with gender except stereotyping it.

Why is Oprah Winfrey listening to a 15 yr old whose parents obviously guided him into this bullshit? And since when do 5 yr olds know who they are? I truly feel so sorry for this child.

It's hard enough getting through the teenage years without having to deal with this bullshit and being blamed because the guys, unless they know they're gay, don't want to date someone else with a penis, or who had a penis, no matter how they dress. Maybe they're smarter than JJ's parents? I think so.

[–]Palgary 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

"I don't know how to talk to boys".

And all her female friends have the exact same long hair, it's strange that none of them have different hairstyles.

[–]thatMarciawoman 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

All girls have long hair now - I find it quite sinister actually. When I was at school in the 70s and 80s there was a huge variety in hair length for both boys and girls. It does seem that sex or gender is now being signalled much more through fashion choices (hair and clothes) than it was in my youth, and I think that's one part of why young people are claiming to be trans or whatever other "identity" they choose based on such superficial things.

There's a forum I observe, with a fair number of special snowflakes on it, and one of them mentioned that as part of becoming trans she had got a "queer haircut". When I asked what it was, she described a short haircut - similar to what I have - but what makes it "queer" is that a "queer person" has it!

Another woman - in her effort to become trans - bought a couple of items of men's clothing, and ... men's shower gel! Shower gel!

[–]lonewomanbiker 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

They started grooming jass when he was young. I wonder if he will 'become a 'boy'- again when he is a teen and begins to rebel against all of this sexual trans-pedo grooming. I think at that point, I will become a 'jazz' supporter.