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[–]urmomsafridge 0ポイント1ポイント  (55子コメント)

Maybe now people will stop tagging me in chat when they want to tag him, if he's out the picture. So that's nice.

Anyway what happened? He got thrown out of the group? What he do?

[–]KindlyKickRockskbot_ 30ポイント31ポイント  (54子コメント)

So mouton has a destiny-specific autism where he gets to be a jerk retard because it makes destiny laugh. While raiding a base, Honeybear kept stopping to drop and help kill fresh spawns, and because mouton has special privileged autism, mouton killed honeybear. Then, later on, while honeybear is fuming at base, mouton does the exact same thing and goes out and kills annoying fresh spawns. Everyone takes note, but nothing happens to mouton. So honeybear changes the base codes and locks everyone out, but has a last second change of heart. However honeybear is still a traitorous swine and is killed and kicked out.

Basically, there was a general animosity between honeybear and mouton, but because mouton is special, he gets to punk honeybear, and honeybear got mad. So all's im saying is maybe atlas was right.

[–]NeoDestinySenpai -21ポイント-20ポイント  (53子コメント)

Quite the review, m80.

So mouton has a destiny-specific autism where he gets to be a jerk retard because it makes destiny laugh.

Pretty much everyone on the team gets to act autistic and we all generally make each other laugh, but let's pretend that ONLY MrMouton does it, even though Assyrian randomly kills us after multiple jumpchecks or Yanke complains all the time when we lose wooden spears, but okay, let's pretend it's just MrMouton.

Honeybear kept stopping to drop and help kill fresh spawns, and because mouton has special privileged autism, mouton killed honeybear.

We already have someone killing fresh spawns, there's no fucking reason for someone who's working on picking the wall to drop down and help someone armed with a pump-action kill fucking fresh spawns. MrMouton killed him because he thought he dropped to loot. Regardless of all of that, no one approved of what MrMouton did, and we all shouted at him for doing it.

mouton does the exact same thing and goes out and kills annoying fresh spawns.

Yeah, and all of us call him out on it and tell him to not be fucking retarded. We never approved of him killing Honeybear for it, though, so why would we kill him for it now? Are you a 4 year old who thinks "eye for an eye" is the best way to go? Fuck off, retard.

Basically, there was a general animosity between honeybear and mouton, but because mouton is special, he gets to punk honeybear, and honeybear got mad.

Everyone on this team kills each other constantly. MrMouton and I have killed each other countless times, but no one threatened to change all of the fucking codes in the base over it.

[–]Kregoth 8ポイント9ポイント  (16子コメント)

I mean, if the only penalty for killing a team mate during a raid is saying "omg why did you do that thats autistic". it's not really going to change behaviour, and MrMouton seems to target HoneyBear a lot with his autism so I'm not to surprised that HoneyBear went full rage mode. At least he changed the codes back.

[–]KindlyKickRockskbot_ 2ポイント3ポイント  (35子コメント)

Sow Doge. I just get triggered by special treatment, bullying, and feigned ignorance, is all.

First of all, I'm not judging the retardation that goes on in game. You guys are a complete mess. However, I'm not triggered by assyrian being retarded, or yanke moaning about something. I'm wondering why when honeybear was afk holding c4, why when overpowered was convicted of stealing shit - why it's you and mouton shoulder to shoulder doing the countdown before TKing them, and not assyrian, ohcee, and yanke. That's your special relationship - you guys share the same "moralistic" attitude towards multiplayer games, and so he's able to do shit that, to other people might be seen as belligerent, but you just see as joking around. Maybe what's worse is that you recognize when Mouton is being a sarcastic dick, but you're only idea of deescalation is 'guys can we please calm down?' So it builds into an Atlas/Honeybear incident. I know it's not your place to babysit, however if Mouton or someone drops it into your lap, you can't just ignore it and hope it solves itself.

Regardless of all of that, no one approved of what MrMouton did, and we all shouted at him for doing it.

Irrelevant. You're yelling 24/7 about everything to everyone. How is this at all any different from the hundred other random times you're scolding someone about a jumpcheck or leaving the airlock open or whatever. It's not, because your real intention isn't to stop someone from doing something, it's to draw everyone's attention to some stupidity and make fun of it.

Are you a 4 year old who thinks "eye for an eye" is the best way to go? Fuck off, retard.

I resent this btw. Why couldn't you have him surrender his gun and leave him with a bow or crossbow? You honestly dont think there exists some small punishment that you can enact? Or do you think this doesn't merit any thought at all? There are others in the world who think it does. Ask your allies if they have issues with people TKing.

The issue is that to you, this isn't a big deal. TKing is standard when playing with you, and you want it to exist because you enjoy it, while to others it can be a bit personal/annoying.

MrMouton and I have killed each other countless times, but no one threatened to change all of the fucking codes in the base over it.

Everyone knows this is just you and mouton jerking around. Ask Ohcee, I remember her commenting the same thing. No one in chat thinks that you guys are being serious, because you guys have been doing this for years. However, what about other people? This is the first game I've seen honeybear play with you guys. Do you think he was just being oversensitive because his bestest friends who he's known for so long went a bit too far banting with him?

Anyways, I don't care aside from seeing good chat memers go bad because of stupid shit. Can you say, besides this event, that he was an asshole in chat worth banning? Now you have no choice.

[–]NeoDestinySenpai -1ポイント0ポイント  (34子コメント)

I'm wondering why when honeybear was afk holding c4

We had just had a problem the previous day with him going completely AFK without saying anything so it was frustrating when we were getting a count of the C4 and he's standing there holding it completely AFK again without announcing it, we didn't want to wait for whenever he got back to count. This has happened before.

why when overpowered was convicted of stealing shit

Because Overpowered would be gone for an entire day doing his own thing, then would just show up at the base and take full gear. This happened more than once.

why it's you and mouton shoulder to shoulder doing the countdown before TKing them

Nah, Assyrian and I have fucked around a bit, but not as much, but yeah I'm obviously closer to MrMouton. But Assyrian is someone who contributes a ton who we'd never fuck with a lot, same with Yanke, same with Ohce, same with Mike, same with GMPoison.

When you contribute a ton and you're willing to do anything and most of your interactions are positive, you can get away with a little more dumb shit. It works this way in job enviornments as well.

I resent this btw. Why couldn't you have him surrender his gun and leave him with a bow or crossbow?

So then we're less geared for a PvP encounter????????????? Why would we fuck ourselves over like this????????????

You honestly dont think there exists some small punishment that you can enact?

There was, we shouted at him and told him to knock it off.

while to others it can be a bit personal/annoying.

Yeah, for some it is, and we never TK them. We NEVER TK Ohce, we NEVER TK Yanke.

[–]CherryBoyRapRiotIslamist 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

we NEVER TK Yanke.

Just on stream MrMouton talked about downing Yankee to see if he has stone on him.

[–]NeoDestinySenpai 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Literally the only time we've ever done it and it was completely justified.

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[–]CherryBoyRapRiotIslamist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I went back to rewatch the vod of the fight last night, and you guys also tried to block in Yankee while he placed the c4.

[–]CherryBoyRapRiotIslamist 1ポイント2ポイント  (30子コメント)

When you contribute a ton and you're willing to do anything and most of your interactions are positive, you can get away with a little more dumb shit. It works this way in job enviornments as well.

This depends on how big of an offence you consider purposeful TKing during a raid to be. Most groups in Rust consider what MrMouton did to be a /gkick offence, or at least a huge warning. That is a huge faux pas in most open world pvp games.

At my current job. The similar thing would be making a derogatory comment during a prototype presentation. I do my work well. I'm always nice to people. But I would not get away with crashing the prototype presentation. And in this case you guys lost the battle to a smaller group.

So then we're less geared for a PvP encounter????????????? Why would we fuck ourselves over like this????????????

MrMouton TK'd someone for clearing out nakeds who came to harass. You have no idea what a naked could have. Could be a rock, but they could also have a grenade. Honeybear had a very important role of being look out and stopping the naked harass. And he got tk'd for it.

[–]NeoDestinySenpai 1ポイント2ポイント  (29子コメント)

Most groups

lol

MrMouton TK'd someone for clearing out nakeds who came to harass.

We had someone outside dedicated to doing that. Another person running around leads to disorganization, possible friendly fire, increased confusion and decreased raid efficiency.

Honeybear had a very important role of being look out and stopping the naked harass.

No he didn't. Why the fuck are you even in here arguing about anything if you don't even know what the fuck went down? Holy shit.

[–]CherryBoyRapRiotIslamist 6ポイント7ポイント  (28子コメント)

lol

Yea, most serious groups would kick you for that or make it clear that it isn't cool. You don't TK your own guys during a raid/siege. I can go make a post on /r/playrust about it if you want. It's not just dicking around if you're doing it during combat.

We had someone outside dedicated to doing that. Another person running around leads to disorganization, possible friendly fire, increased confusion and decreased raid efficiency.

I went back to watch the vod. To state what happened.

You had a third party, I think I didn't recognize the voice, that was in the area outside of the base you were raiding. They did encounter one group of people that you went out to fight, but they were never specifically there to guard the entrance for you.

Far as I can tell you never actually had anyone from your group watching the front. It was always the third party guy, and at some point he moved on and stopped watching the front. That's why the naked guy with the shotty got the jump on you.

I erroneously remembered that honeybear was the person watching, because he went out to kill the naked. I made the connection that he was the watcher, but I think the case is that nobody was watching at all.

Regardless, going to kill a naked who made it to the entrance isn't a TK worthy event. At the very least he was still watching the entrance while he picked the wall, which is exactly what you're supposed to do.

He shouldn't have gone out after the naked had already died, but nobody even called out that there was a naked coming. The naked died right at the foundation, so it's not surprising for him to have moved for the kill if they'd made it that close.

All of your guys should have moved for the kill when the second naked with the shotty made it into the hall way. But nobody moved until he shot.

[–]NeoDestinySenpai -2ポイント-1ポイント  (27子コメント)

Yea, most serious groups would kick you for that or make it clear that it isn't cool.

You realize that we're not a fucking serious group, right? That's why I "lol'd" at you, we're just a group of memers running around being fucking autistic, we're not going super ultra tryhard. If this was a super ultra tryhard group and MrMouton TK'd for no reason we'd just kick him from the group on the spot, what the fuck?

Far as I can tell you never actually had anyone from your group watching the front.

Someone from the other team (Silent) was watching the front, go watch the VoD, holy fuck.

It was always the third party guy, and at some point he moved on and stopped watching the front.

Nope.

Regardless, going to kill a naked who made it to the entrance isn't a TK worthy event.

No shit, that's why we told MrMouton to knock it off.

[–]CherryBoyRapRiotIslamist 4ポイント5ポイント  (21子コメント)

You realize that we're not a fucking serious group, right? That's why I "lol'd" at you, we're just a group of memers running around being fucking autistic, we're not going super ultra tryhard. If this was a super ultra tryhard group and MrMouton TK'd for no reason we'd just kick him from the group on the spot, what the fuck?

Then why are you playing on Rustopia? Which is basically the definition of the try hard server. That's the server you go to if you want to fight big groups of serious people and be serious. You would have been better off playing Battle Royale or a 5x server if you weren't serious.

That's why you guys are getting wiped every time you fight a same sized group. Because every other large group is try hard serious on that server

But eh, regardless, even the non-serious groups don't let you TK during raids. Like I said. It's a faux pas. That's like cultural rule 1 of open world PvP games. You don't kill your own people, lol.

Someone from the other team (Silent) was watching the front, go watch the VoD, holy fuck.

Did you even read my post? I said it was a guy from the other team. And obviously he wasn't watching the front. Otherwise he would have called out when nakeds came to the entrance with a shotty. One of the people picking also shot at a naked that came near the entrance right before it, so I imagine he wasn't there for at least 5 minutes.

https://www.twitch.tv/destiny/v/58036308?t=05h20m47s

Nope.

How did the naked with the shotty get the jump on you then? Nobody called it out.

On the vod, https://www.twitch.tv/destiny/v/58036308?t=05h20m47s , silent says that he had moved away for some reason. It's hard to decipher over the gun noise, but it seems like he's saying that it was someone elses turn.

No shit, that's why we told MrMouton to knock it off.

You didn't really tell him to knock it off. What sticks out is that you said if Honeybear came back to defend himself you would kick them both. While you can say that was effective punishment of both parties. The real effect is that you give MrMouton the ability to play the victim if HoneyBear continuous to be understandably upset, MrMouton never apologizes, and you effectively give Honeybear the middle-finger by putting the blame on both parties.

MrMouton was objectively in the wrong there. He TK'd Honeybear for being pro-active about enemies entering the doorway. You should have never ever threatened to punish Honeybear for responding in this situation.

[–]CherryBoyRapRiotIslamist 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Dawg, if you're not try hard then why are you playing with a 15 minute delay.