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[–]PowerCouple2011 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Getting cut was the best thing I've ever chosen to do. Literally, takes the guesswork out of it.

[–]RPAlternate42Red Beret 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

My wife had her tubes tied.

As for your LTR... use a condom. Never let her control the NC.

Or get snipped.

[–]Roger_rogerson[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks. We are a bit too young and no kids yet so it's not an option for us

[–]irateMDRed Beret 2ポイント3ポイント  (8子コメント)

I see a lot of people mention that they monitor their wife's cycle. I know this is only possible if they are not on any hormonal birth control.

There are still monthly fluctuations in libido and physical symptoms on the pill. There's less need to track cycles because it's reliably the same 4 week pattern over and over again.
 
If it's a specific concern about the pill, take a look at this article. There may be a myth or misconception, or maybe a specific side effect that can be mitigated by switching pills.
 
Implant - great for women who can't remember to take the pill, but has more side effects
 
IUD - copper or hormonal have different advantages, less side effects than the pill for most women
 
Vasectomy - 99.9% effective, very low risk of complications, no impact on testosterone levels or anything like that, best decision I've made in years, can be reversed in majority of cases
 
Vasalgel - studies have been relatively short-term, not available in most countries, and I wouldn't trust something that can be so easily dissolved, but I'm paranoid about that kind of thing
 
Tubal ligation - 99% effective (same as the pill, but 10x higher risk pregnancy than vasectomy), more risk of complications than with vasectomy, hard to reverse
 
Condoms - I hate them, but they work 99% of the time
 
Rhythm method - stupid unless you kinda want to get pregnant, but not completely ineffective
 
Testosterone - may affect testicles ability to produce testosterone if used long-term (no good studies that I've seen, but there may be some out there), wouldn't try it without getting semen analysis periodically
 
Switch to just anal, oral, and toys, no more PIV - 100% effective, wouldn't be my choice
 
 
Edit: There are others like the diaphragm that don't matter very much and are uncommonly used because they suck in various ways

[–]il-est-ressuscite 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

Just curious, have the Depo shots fallen out of favor these days?

[–]irateMDRed Beret 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

They're as popular as ever. They're great for teens, prostitutes, and people who can't be bothered to reliably take the pill. Some women love them, YMMV.
 
If I were a woman, I'd get an IUD.
 
My wife has an evil plan to put our daughter on one of the pills with drospirenone (like Yaz or Yasmin) when she's a teenager. It's the best for mood and it lowers libido. ;-)

[–]il-est-ressuscite 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Good plan. Best to be realistic. Hope for the best, plan for the worst and all that jazz.

I remember my wife and I laughing about her marching our girls to get the depo while wearing their catholic school uniforms.

[–]irateMDRed Beret 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

The Catholic high school in my city was the only high school with built-in daycare. Preaching abstinence is a waste of time.

[–]mrpCamper 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

reminds me of my tour of the planned parenthood in my area. I asked what they see the most of, the nurse told me treating STDs from the local Catholic University students.

[–]Roger_rogerson[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I had an ex with an IUD and she loved it.

Haha good tip with Daughters and Yaz. I will keep that one in mind ;)

[–]War2kali -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

drospirenone

From Wikipedia: "In July 2012, Bayer notified its stockholders that there were more than 12,000 lawsuits against the company involving Yaz, Yasmin, and other oral contraceptives with drospirenone, and that the company by then settled 1,977 cases for $402.6 million, for an average of $212,000 per case, while setting aside $610.5 million to settle the others."

[–]irateMDRed Beret 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most of the controversy is about the risk of venous thromboembolism. While 2-4x the risk of the other oral contraceptives, it's still an extremely low risk, especially for someone with no risk factors.
 
PS. You'd have to have a screw loose to consider my wife's joke about the pill as serious medical advice, especially on April 1st...

[–]SOAADDICT 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

My LTR wants to go off the pill and for us to start using condoms. I told her no way that is happening since I don't want to use them, it's a deal breaker for me.

Why does she want to get off the pill?

If she's experiencing side effects that are impacting her quality of life (nausea, change in menstruation, depression, sever fluid retention, breast pain, migraines, severe acne, decrease in sex drive, etc.) she should try a different pill, not quit all together. There are dozens of different formulations on the market. While one hormonal cocktail might give her, say, mood swings, cystic acne, and a period that only stops for one week a month, another might give her a shorter, lighter period and make her more horny. If she's having severe side effects commanding her to stay on the pill will only encourage her to stop taking it and not tell you.

How long would you take a pill that gave you daily migraines just because someone told you to? Not long I bet. Instead actually be a leader and guide her to go to her doctor and ask to try a different pill, or talk to her MD about an IUD or a hormonal implant.

The new three year implant (marketed as Nexplanon) if the most effective temporary birth control available in the US, and because the dose of hormones is both low and continuous through the day, rather than rising and falling when she takes the pill, it has less side effects for many women.

[–]Roger_rogerson[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

0 side effects. She has been on it for 10 years with no issues. It works great.

She wants to get off hormonal birth control because she is worried it is messing with her body. She doesn't like the idea of taking something that changes her hormones

[–]RedApathy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sounds like baby fever.

[–]stonepimpletilistsRed Beret 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Guessing she's almost 30 now?

[–]over60_stupid_loner 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

The baby imperative. Yeah, then blame the condom. How could a pin hole get there?

[–]SOAADDICT 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

If there's any chance of this happening the smartest thing he can do is switch from relying on her taking the pill to using condoms. It's a lot easier to forget to take one or two pills in a month's time than poke holes in a bunch of condoms.

[–]over60_stupid_loner 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

True. Logistically, condoms are probably a better bet.

My belief is that he is really dealing with baby-mania, not a birth control preference issue. She's running him all over about a non-issue, when she really wants the baby.

His first question was about tracking cycle. It might serve him well to heed it, if he has no desire for children with her.

[–]over60_stupid_loner 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

0 side effects. She has been on it for 10 years with no issues. It works great.

worried it is messing with her body. She doesn't like the idea

Then (maybe) she is whining to your Beta Guy side.

[–]stonepimpletilistsRed Beret 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Iud. If it's fine the first week, it's the for 5 years

[–]Roger_rogerson[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

She tried the copper one out 6 months ago. She was in constant pain and had to get it removed.

She is not interested in the hormone iud because it plays with her hormones. Which is why she wants to come off the pill

[–]stonepimpletilistsRed Beret -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Isn't there a steel one?

Odd, she must be pretty rare to have a copper allergy, surprised.

[–]SOAADDICT 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

A copper allergy is not the likely cause. You're spreading misinformation. In clinical studies About 12/100 women experience pain in the first year of use with a copper IUD. It's down to about 10/100 the second year, and 7/100 the third. Pain is one of the most common side effects leading to discontinuation of use.

[–]ClubLowlow 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Look into IUDs, it's another good option

[–]over60_stupid_loner 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

OP, do you think you might be so focused on solving her BC problem, that you have missed the real issue?

Maybe she just hit her biologic baby wall. Whether she knows it or not, she's just got to have it.

Read your post again. Think about it.

[–]xjedimindx 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

IUD was not effective with my wife. I cavemaned it, got it dislodged and got her pregnant. She had a miscarriage and had to get the IUD surgically removed.

We now use condoms until I decide I want a 3rd kid or one of us gets fixed. Probably her, she doesn't want 3 I am open to the idea. If l want a third kid In the future I'm keeping my options open.

[–]Ive_Had_Enuf 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

My wife was on OrthoTriCyclen for years. Initially we had sex all I wanted. She went off it when we decided to have kid one. Then back on for a few years (no not identifiable change in libido).

Then she went off BC again when we had kid two. After she had our second child her libido hit rock bottom. No sex for a year while she breastfed.

After she stopped breastfeeding, she went back on OrthoTriCyclen - but things were different. She was distant. She has no energy. Sex was just trickle sex - once a month. I was in a bad state as a result. Why didn't she treat me like she did before? What am I doing wrong?

That's what ultimately drove me to the pill. I stopped looking to her for validation. I started focusing on myself. I hit the gym. I read. I got out and did shit. I handled MY shit at home (and let her handle her shit). I started to feel better about myself. I'm healthier and happier than I've been in years. Each day I wake up and think - what improvements can I make on myself and my family.

As for her, well she went off OrthoTriCyclen for about a month because she had some side effects that only recently started occurring: allergies, nausea, lack of energy, etc. Things were great for a period. She was fun. Energetic. Happy. Horny.

But then she PMS'd for like three weeks. The cramps were nonstop. And, as a result, she went back on BC - this time a low hormone dose of Loestrin.

The jury is still out on how this new BC will affect her; however, I've noticed she is back to being lethargic: this week alone she has gone to bed before 8:30 four nights in a row. But I realize that's her issue now. I'm should be focused on me.