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The largest Conservative subreddit will be going private on May 1st. (self.Conservative)

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This subreddit is for conservatives to discuss conservative issues with fellow conservatives.

Populists and Socialists are not True Conservatives. To ensure our Conservatives-only membership and to encourage distraction and troll free discussion we will be returning this sub to private status.

Since we used to go private on weekends there will be a substantial number of older accounts that will find themselves able to access our sub and, if you are among the lucky ones, no action will be required by you.

The decision to build a virtual wall around our subreddit will be re-evaluated closer to November 5th.

April 30th will be the last day we will be public.

We have established another subreddit to handle the requests for people looking to gain admittance to the largest Conservative forum on Reddit:

You may complete your questionnaire here!

Because we are the largest Conservative forum on Reddit, we are expecting a huge response so please get your answers in early so we will have time to review them.

We will - at a later date - be looking to add 2-3 more moderators whose job will be just to review requests and add users as approved submitters. We will make a future announcement regarding this at a later time.

We will leave this notice stickied for the forseeable future in order to get feedback from those who have any questions or to review comments from people not Conservative enough to make the cut.

As always, /r/Conservatives remains an alternative for those who are not True Conservatives and have gained admittance to the private sub.

Frequently Asked Questions

Q: What happens if I have not been granted access and visit here after April 30th?

A: You will see a notice that this subreddit is private and you will not be able to read or post here.

Q: How long will it take for my request to be reviewed?

A: We hope within 72 hours although once we have added an additional 2-3 moderators to review requests we hope this will decrease to 24 hours or less.

Q: Why are you doing this?

A: For many months now we have been receiving, on average, 5 to 10 requests per day asking why Liberals and Trump supporters are allowed to participate here disrupting conversations. We felt that the time is right to go back to being a private subreddit.

Q: What will moderation be like once you're private?

A: Donald Trump supporters will be held to the same standards as other non-conservatives, such as Bernie Sanders supporters.

Q: What happens if I don't get access can I fill out the form again?

A: You must wait 30 days and then you can re-submit. We are going to keep track of everybody's answers and if you try and "re-take" the test giving fake answers we'll know.

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[–]ayePALINDROMEeyeConservative Purist[M] [スコア非表示] stickied comment (1子コメント)

*if you are interested in applying to be one of the 2-3 mod's we select to help us sift through the applications, please send us a message via Modmail.

[–]perceptionate 117ポイント118ポイント  (64子コメント)

I think this is a terrible idea. r/conservative is currently one of the only places on reddit where people can come find a conservative perspective on politics. I embrace moderates and even liberals coming to engage in discussion. Trolls are easily dismissed through downvotes.

I get that there has been a surge in populism surrounding Trump, but I think it strengthens conservative principles to be able to engage with populists to find differences and better articulate why true conservatism is the best option.

This sounds eerily similar to liberal cupcake "safe spaces". I urge you to reconsider.

[–]lewlkewl [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

As a liberal, I agree. I get enough of liberal/leftist views in /r/politics, and i come here to see the conservative perspective and occasionally discuss certain ideas i find debatable. It's important to see all sides of a coin to be a well rounded person, and i think /r/conservative is one side of the coin people should see.

[–]kwantsu-dudes [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Completely agree. I see no reason to be part of a Political Ideology sub that isn't willing to hear opposing views.

If you can't defend your position against those that disagree with you, you don't have a very good argument to begin with. Even if you are staunchly conservative, you will benefit from opposition as it helps to understand what the opposition's point actually is and potentially helps you answer their concerns in a conservative way that they might not have considered. Thus spreading a conservative message.

Instead you want to lock yourselves in a room where everyone agrees with one another. How is that productive? How does that help one to truly gain knowledge? How does that help to spread conservativism (which I think is a good goal to have in politics).

I just don't understand.

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    [–]truthrevolt 37ポイント38ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Won't this move do a disservice to people who need to hear the conservative viewpoint on issues? As much as I'm irritated when I see Trumpkins blindly defending their emperor, I'd want those who maybe considering Trump to see some facts and maybe come to their senses. Especially with the primaries that are remaining - which may be a long shot, but as long as there is a fighting chance, I don't see why give in.

    [–]atombath [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    Exactly... I'm progressive but come here to read your opinions to get a deeper understanding of conservative positions + never post except for this. Going private only makes sense if you think people need to be more polarized.

    [–]conredditive [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    I'm a newer poster here and a longtime lurker. I can see both sides of this, so thank you for your comment. I tend to agree with you. I think leaving the doors open would tend to spread our conservative message or at the very least expand the dialogue. I think this sub does a much better job than /r/politics in that regard. (Well, perhaps not in respect to Trump, but that's a little different...)

    Perhaps, I'll change my opinion on this; still thinking about it.

    [–]LyleDanger [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Yeah this move seems a bit foolish doesn't it?

    [–]SirPounceTheThirdConstitutionalist/Libertarian 55ポイント56ポイント  (7子コメント)

    The decision to build a virtual wall around our subreddit...

    But will you be able to make /r/politics pay for this wall?

    [–]Trussed_Up [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    They don't send us their best.

    [–]chabanaisStronger than derp[S,M] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    You need me on that wall.

    [–]SirPounceTheThirdConstitutionalist/Libertarian 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

    You need me on that wall.

    Man... I just can't handle the truth you're dealing.

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      [–]TreadNotOnMeConstitutional Conservative 50ポイント51ポイント  (30子コメント)

      Can we also have the mods conduct seizures and deletions of any member's posts across Reddit? I feel this is best for the public. I'd hate to be triggered by a RINO who expresses a view that isn't sufficiently conservative.

      [–]perceptionate 23ポイント24ポイント  (29子コメント)

      Let's not get carried away. We just need a safe space to avoid RINO/Trumpite microagressions.

      [–]Altosxk [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

      While I think you're off base with your comments that making it private is the same thing as a safe-space, that video IS super funny. I had forgotten about it

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        [–]Science_MonsterAnti-federalist [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

        This is a bad move, 'Taking our ball and going home' has never won an argument.

        [–][削除されました]  (13子コメント)

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          [–]Thrawn011 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

          Yea, I don't know that I support this. I want liberals to be able to hear real conservative points of view.

          [–]0ttervonBismarckCruz 2016 20ポイント21ポイント  (3子コメント)

          It's my personal opinion that respectful leftists that actually want to hear our opinions should be let in.

          [–]Cunfuse 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I agree. Rational political discussion should be important for conservatives who are opposed to censorship and agree with the free exchange of ideas. Let's not become an echo chamber like r/politics.

          [–]9enis 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

          They should, all this does is make this an echo chamber. I wonder if this is all moderators that want this or just Chabanais? It clearly seems to be aimed at anyone that is ok with Trump being the GOP nomination.

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            [–]chabanaisStronger than derp[S,M] 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

            I wouldn't visit /r/The_Donald to know what Conservatives are thinking. There was a recent post there showing how a plurality of their commenters also post on /r/SandersforPresident.

            [–]ayePALINDROMEeyeConservative Purist[M] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (4子コメント)

            Facts don't care about the_donald's feelings.

            [–]00Chubby [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

            Do you think Ben Shapiro would support this after his big speech about leftists shutting people down? His speeches are private conservative events but he still engages in debate with those who disagree with him in his audience and doesnt kick any one out if they dont.

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              [–]OnOrderConservative [スコア非表示]  (12子コメント)

              Our very own safe space

              [–]furless 41ポイント42ポイント  (6子コメント)

              You're certainly free to do what you want, of course, but this bears hallmarks of cultism. If you have a discussion on X, the only input you will get is the party line. Given that, you might as well make the subreddit 'read only', with the mods, and a very select few whose loyalties are unquestionable, being granted write access. Such philosophical inbreeding can only be a weakness.

              [–]Jcpowers3 36ポイント37ポイント  (12子コメント)

              So wait... Just because people were commenting about trump or more moderate/progressive candidates your turning the sun into a safe space. We should be able to have discussions from all views and win disagreements with substantial arguments hiding doesn't help.It's a very liberal thing to do

              [–]9enis 21ポイント22ポイント  (3子コメント)

              Right. They are the ultimate hypocrisy, bashing and making fun of others' nee for "safe space" all the time, but now they will only let in those that agree with them; so they won't have to deal with other ideas of conservatism.

              [–]vcxz16 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

              You will notice there are never any comments / posts that even take a neutral stance on Trump. It all must be pro-Cruz or you risk deletion or mass downvotes. Maybe that is why this sub has not succeeded in staying very active despite 50k+ subscribers.

              [–]Jcpowers3 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

              Exactly I love seeing debates between all sides of the political spectrum. This limits this and makes it worse than r/politics

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                [–]00Chubby [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

                http://imgur.com/awMuvAZ

                I was denied for disagreeing with the mods, despite being about as conservative as it gets.

                I feel like that speaks for itself.

                [–]FindingTruthIHope [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                I agree guys. We need a safe space. What happens if someone that doesn't agree with us asks us a question? My feelings might be hurt.

                [–]TedyCruz [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                Couldn't agree more! We have the 99.9% of reddit to read other peoples opinions, I'm fed up of Liberals coming here, exposing their well thought out and documented opinions!!

                Edit: sighs.. /s

                [–]HiDart31 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                I must say, this disappoints me. How can we bash Safe Spaces on campuses, and then build one on the Internet? Are we that scared of discussion? Are we that unsure of our values? Being challenged intellectually is the best way to grow in one's knowledge of values and ideas. And being the largest Conservative forum on Reddit, we have the opportunity to spread our beliefs to those who seek us out. Sure, we have a bit of a troll problem, but so does every sub. If this is the direction r/Conservative is going, I will not be a part of it.

                [–]brettpilkington07 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                Donald Trump supporters will be held to the same standards as other non-conservatives, such as Bernie Sanders supporters.

                So does this mean that anyone who supports Trump will be banned? What if the person doesn't even like Trump, but knows Kasich can't win and isn't a Cruz fan, so they are one of the ones thinking that Trump has the best chance of winning and possibly nominating acceptable SC justices? I haven't seen your questionaire yet or anything, but it almost seems like it is going to be "do you agree with every single position of Ted Cruz? No? Then you can't come in." Why would you want to wall it off that much where you are ONLY discussing with people who have the exact same views as you? Why not have a little bit of variety? I understand not wanting to have to deal with liberal trolls and stuff, but what is the point of sitting around discussing stuff with pre-qualified people that you agree with? It seems to render this just a place to whine about liberals-- I thought that the more important function of this sub was to possibly expose a few people to some viewpoints that aren't prevalent on reddit.

                [–]Satan_Is_Win [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

                This is ridiculous.. I'm British and come here to get updates on American politics and post interesting pieces that I find on the web. I have no idea what the southern strategy is and unsurprisingly I don't have a full understanding of your constitution so I can't answer question 8 either. I understand that this sub was always going to be mostly about American conservatism, especially considering the presidential election, but your questionnaire seems to be entirely aimed at Americans.

                [–]jogarz [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                I must voice my strongest opposition to this measure. This sub has grown a lot in the past six months and this would be very harmful to that growth.

                Also, this decision should not have been made without the consent of the user base.

                [–]Yesiamconservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                Also, this decision should not have been made without the consent of the user base

                I agree. And they aren't even taking our concerns seriously, just dismissing us. I'm really disappointed by this whole thing. I'm using a throwaway right now, but I post here A LOT. It sucks to see my favorite sub implode like this. I really don't feel like there's a place quite like this that's so easily accessible. I'll mourn this loss.

                [–]Litnire [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

                Sooo... /r/conservative is basically going to build a massive safe space? And you guys wonder where college age progressives are coming from? This is that same EXACT sentiment, what a joke. You guys are the pale shadows of your masculine predecessors.

                What a sad state for conservatism. These kinds of gestures, symbolical, shows people how far we've fallen.

                [–]CynicalBastard3118Goldwater Conservative 15ポイント16ポイント  (11子コメント)

                If you don't mind me asking a question;

                How large is the legroom for diversity of opinion in the private subreddit? Among conservatives in this sub, I know we are home to paleoconservatives, libertarian leaning conservatives, reaganites, centre right moderates, and religious conservatives. The question is, will there be room for all of us, all of us who can claim to adhere to the free market and American values we hold so dear? Or will the private subreddit be more selective?

                Of course, I don't expect us to accept any "Alt righters" or "centrists who are fine with Bernie."

                [–]Likewhatevermaaan [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                It's only for chabanais conservatives now.

                [–]00Chubby [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                http://imgur.com/awMuvAZ

                This should answer your question extremely well.

                [–]MUH_PC_ACCOUNT 9ポイント10ポイント  (6子コメント)

                This sub is generally not ok with paleoconservatism, judging by reactions I have seen in the past to paleo opinions. It's why I lurk and don't talk.

                I guess I won't be making it to the private forum since they're wanting to clamp down on whose allowed in.

                [–]EllesarisEllendil [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                I'm basically a centrist who's only conservative on foreign policy, law and order but in favour of a strong state. I think I'm doomed.

                [–]moralguardian [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                Yikes, do you want to drive your sub into the ground? It may make it easier for you mods, but the membership is gonna sink like a stone.

                [–]Remingtonh [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                This sub is going the way of the GOPe. Into irrelevance.

                [–]forbin1992 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                You mean the party that has the house, senate, a majority of governorships, a majority of state legislatures and more local elected officials?

                [–]DevonWeeksModerate Conservative 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

                We will leave this notice stickied for the forseeable future in order to get feedback from those who have any questions or to review comments from people not Conservative enough to make the cut.

                Uh oh... my days may be numbered.

                [–]xray606 23ポイント24ポイント  (1子コメント)

                I guess I'll be out. This sounds a bit too close-minded and culty for me. I understand there are annoying people. But this is the kind of stuff the chronically angry people on the other side do... 'Unless you think exactly like us, and agree with every single thing we say, then you're the enemy'.

                How can anybody point a finger at them, if we do the exact same thing? The main reason I identify with conservatives, is the fact that they typically do NOT have that sort of angry cultist mentality.

                I talked to a guy in Pakistan on here the other day. I found it very interesting, and he actually made me check myself on a couple things. I think that's a good thing. It's not healthy to only surround yourself with people who agree with every single thing you say. That's what creates all the morons in Hollywood.

                I haven't seen anything that seems like significant trolling at all. I could understand if lib-tard kids were just drowning the whole sub, but I haven't seen that. But... Whatever.

                [–]Yesiamconservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                I haven't seen anything that seems like significant trolling at all. I could understand if lib-tard kids were just drowning the whole sub, but I haven't seen that. But... Whatever.

                Exactly. I mean, yes, you see the occasional liberal troll on the more "controversial" posts, but I haven't felt like its been a real problem at all. I'm able to see them for what they are and move on. They usually get downvoted anyway. This just doesn't seem necessary.

                [–]beer_n_gunsMillennial Constitutionalist [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                Since we used to go private on weekends there will be a substantial number of older accounts that will find themselves able to access our sub and, if you are among the lucky ones, no action will be required by you.

                Why not try this again before going completely private?

                [–]dy--dx [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                Liberals ... Trump supporters ... disrupting conversations.

                Donald Trump supporters ... same standards as other non-conservatives

                ... for those who are not True Conservatives and have gained admittance to the private sub.

                Does this not make anyone sick?

                [–]BakerStreetMuse [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                I can't believe what I'm seeing here, and I have to say that it's extremely disappointing.

                I barely comment here at all, but this is my favourite subreddit to visit. There is a good mix of perspectives reflected in the comments without having to sift through a bunch of crap; there isn't a whole lot of participation here, but stuff that's misleading or false often gets called out pretty quickly. And I don't see any one flavour of conservatism getting rammed down my throat when I visit the page; it's all very core-principled.

                I don't comment, but I am a Right-wing conservative, engineer, husband, father, and a millennial. Yes, if you check my post history, most of my contributions are to the Drugs subreddit, and that is a very taboo subject, which is precisely why I need an anonymous Reddit account to talk about the things I did before I became a father. I keep my political writings on Facebook, which many would say is futile, but I regularly get messages from conservative friends who feel alone and alienated on social media because of the prominence and insidiousness of Left-wing orthodoxy, and they appreciate me articulating conservative, traditionalist, capitalist, and libertarian viewpoints.

                What does that have to do with this subreddit, though? Well, when a young conservative... say, someone of college age, the reddit demographic, finds himself intellectually starved in the Progressive circles he's trapped in... or even a non-conservative whose nose is starting to realise that something really stinks about the prevailing political dogmas... he goes in search of answers.

                He isn't going to request access to even the largest conservative subreddit if it's private; be realistic. But if he visits and sees what we have here—sees that the contributions are mostly reasonable and how many examples get posted every day of the pervasive media and educational bias that poisons our culture—he finds a sliver of hope that he hasn't been crazy this entire time.

                I think that if you really believe in advancing conservatism, you'd find it far more important to reach these people and give them that hope than to build a Safe Space™ of ideological purity. If we can't handle the human shitpost that is Donald Trump with the maturity and intellectual rigour that we pride ourselves on, then we are no better than progressives.

                [–]rf32797Libertarian Conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                So anyone know any good conservative subreddits? Because this one is officially fucked

                [–]KellysHero [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                This is the same sub that was complaining the other day about /r/science stifling debate about climate change right?

                [–]FromBeyondTheWall [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                Wow bad idea. If you want to remain the largest "conservative" page on Reddit don't shoot yourself in the foot.

                "build a virtual wall" Haha and you're against trumps wall? the hypocrisy is nauseating and don't for once think making this sub an echo chamber will change the direction the "conservative" party is headed.

                [–]YOLOSwag_McFartnut [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                So you don't actually want conversations, you want an echo chamber.....

                Got it. Enjoy!

                [–]MrSparkle86Moderate Conservative 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

                I for one welcome our conservative overlords.

                [–]chabanaisStronger than derp[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I voted for Kodos.

                [–]Thrawn011 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Couldn't you limit posters to only conservatives, but still let others read the content?

                [–]chabanaisStronger than derp[S,M] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Reddit doesn't give us many options really. 4 years ago when we went private on weekends we went through this exact thing.

                [–]CountStitchula [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

                I'm fairly new to Reddit so I suppose I don't understand why this might be a necessity. Are the moderator tools that inadequate for handling trolls?

                [–]chabanaisStronger than derp[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                The tools Reddit provides are very few.

                [–]DevonWeeksModerate Conservative [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                I mod for a sub with 70k+ subscribers. It's not that the mod tools are not adequate. It's that at a certain point mass behaviors become unmanageable. In a sub like this where you face very large, organized efforts to troll the subscribers and stifle dissent, it becomes a slog for even a team of 30 mod to manage. Plus, you have no tools to address things like vote manipulation. Different mod teams address it in different ways. Going private is one way to do it, and in the case of a conservative sub in a hyperliberal environment compromised mostly of children, it's about the only option side from enduring the abuse.

                [–]CountStitchula [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                Thanks for the explanation, I appreciate it.

                I ended up here because my usual conservative haunts have become cesspools of vulgarities, insults, lame memes, etc.

                It's a shame that the sheer volume has overwhelmed the mods. I imagine many others are looking for alternative hangouts as well and going private will probably make people shy away.

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                  [–]CarolinaPunk#NEVERTRUMP[M] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                  Incredibly useless. we have to go through individual comment history manually just to hunt the liberals down to ban. Not to mention the trump supporters.

                  [–]KingStarkus [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                  Safe space lol , this sub makes liberals look good

                  [–]rf32797Libertarian Conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                  It's embarassing is what it is

                  [–]disevident 16ポイント17ポイント  (6子コメント)

                  ok, so i don't really understand conservative politics all that well, but I'm starting to see that building walls around things seems like a central piece of the philosophy.

                  [–]Theguy634 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                  This closing the sub to a select few is not a conservative view.

                  [–]chabanaisStronger than derp[S,M] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Good fences make good neighbors... especially since Liberals can't help stick their noses into other peoples' business, with your sarcastic snide remark being a prime example.

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                    [–]Theguy634 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                    Sorry, but this is stupid. I will say it again. Closing off the rest of the general public from an open forum is not a conseravtive veiw point. Closing the sub to only select few.. It becomes nothing but one big circle jerk. You are tired or afraid of downvotes from happening because you dont want your "internet points" to go down...you kids are funny... Talk about how the left wants to shut down free speach... You are doing the same thing...instead of it being for "the children"...but for internet points.....sad

                    [–]Yesiamconservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                    You are tired or afraid of downvotes from happening because you dont want your "internet points" to go down

                    I'm starting to think this is the crux of it.

                    [–]TreadNotOnMeConstitutional Conservative 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    FINALLY. We also need to reform this absurd system of upvoting. I propose we redistribute upvotes so it's fair for everyone. This upvote inequality is simply evil - why should some people get a bunch of upvotes and other people get left in the dust? It's time for an r/Conservative revolution against Big Commenters!

                    [–]D_angeloRussell 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

                    You guys are a bunch of faggots. Getting butthurt Get the fuck over yourselves it's the internet you guys take this shit way too seriously fucking pussies it's the Internet I mean seriously? Checking one by one?! That's how much you guys feel threatened lmao I can't wait till Trump is elected or unless you retards make it so that either that commie or Hilary get elected and watch your party destroy itself by putting in a brokered convention because you guys can't do anything else to stop someone whom the people vote for

                    [–]DevonWeeksModerate Conservative 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Hmmm... I suspect you're right there on the verge of getting accepted. I just can't put my finger on why you can't cross the line, though.

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                      [–]Fromtheblood [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      At least this place is on board with building walls.

                      If Donald was not conservative, Ted wouldn't unabashedly copy so many of Trump's positions.

                      [–]elriop20 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      Finally a safe space.

                      [–]BubbaMetzia#NeverTrump [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                      Is there a way you could make the sub have Approved Submitter status instead of going fully private? A lot of people read Reddit at work but don't like to sign into it on an office computer.

                      [–]5MC 5ポイント6ポイント  (27子コメント)

                      the largest Conservative forum on Reddit

                      I'm pretty sure 86,400 is bigger than 57,282. You must be using common core math.

                      [–]ArizonaJohnReagan Conservative 4ポイント5ポイント  (12子コメント)

                      He said conservative forum. You've somehow mixed up small hands with small government

                      [–]ItsPooly [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

                      In what way is Trump any more for big government than Cruz? Ted Cruz copies half of his positions. I honestly didn't know economic deregulation was "big government". Perhaps you're one of those idiots who gets fooled by his rhetoric.

                      [–]Dol-Amroth [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      SAVAGE

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                        [–]TeaPartyOverlordCruz Conservative [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                        Pfft. Trump is the Rachel Dolezal of conservatives.

                        [–]chabanaisStronger than derp[S,M] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Satire subs don't count.

                        [–]thatrightwingerUltimate Conservative -2ポイント-1ポイント  (9子コメント)

                        This is exactly why we're taking it private: RINOs for Trump don't even know that they and he aren't conservative.

                        [–]D_angeloRussell 10ポイント11ポイント  (8子コメント)

                        Can you explain how he isn't since you're so adamant on your stance?

                        [–]MUH_PC_ACCOUNT [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

                        Sure, Trump doesn't jerk off to corporate and capital gains tax cuts and an aggressive foreign policy for Israel, and he'd rather society help a sick person in need than to let them die on the street. As you can see, he clearly isn't Conservative.

                        [–]YosoffNatural Rights Conservative[M] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                        That's a nationalist sub, not a conservative sub. Nationalists can be either liberal or conservative and tend to be the former.

                        [–]ayePALINDROMEeyeConservative Purist [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                        That's a great observation. If trump were a conservative nationalist I would like him a lot more.

                        [–]ItsPooly [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                        I thought free-speech was a "conservative" value? Supporting Donald Trump does not mean you're not a conservative. In many cases he has come out as ultra-conservative on some issues (which Cruz then goes ahead and copies) Donald Trump is no less a conservative than Ted Cruz is. If you claim Trump is lying about these issues than there is no way you can claim that Cruz is telling the truth.

                        [–]truthrevolt [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                        Just take a look at their history to see who is being more honest. It's OK to support the Donald, but be honest about what he has said, be honest about what he was done in the past.

                        [–]ItsPooly [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                        No, I have to say you're totally wrong. You shouldn't look at history to determine it you should look right now. You should look at Donald Trump who has none of the banks, wall street, or big business in his back pocket. You should look at how he openly embraces his history and says what he did. Compare that to what Ted does when he runs and hides from his Goldman Sachs loans, his Bush connections (they're literally working on his campaign right now), his votes for immigration increases and amnesty, etc. Cruz always has to paint himself in some way to be a conservative. He can never admit he was wrong voting for that bill or accepting that donation while Trump just straight out admits it. That shows a lot more about who is lying and who is not to me.

                        [–]0ttervonBismarckCruz 2016 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

                        I support this decision, although I would say that I do value the fact that there are open minded leftists & moderates who enjoy participating here, asking questions, etc. I hope that we can allow non Conservatives to have access provided they aren't trolls and or shills. I want other people to be exposed to rationally thought out Conservative opinions.

                        [–]chabanaisStronger than derp[S,M] 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        We are trying to minimize distractions.

                        [–]0ttervonBismarckCruz 2016 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Yeah I support that, there are too many trolls brigading this sub & lying about basic facts.

                        [–]gameoverman1983 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                        Rumor has it that the "True Conservatives" are pooling their money together to build a spiritual commune in South America, where only the most Principled Consistent Constitutional Conservatives will be allowed to congregate and discuss the benefits of Free Market principles and mass third-world immigration.

                        [–]chabanaisStronger than derp[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                        Don't drink the Kool Aid.

                        [–]babbydingo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                        So when are you renaming it to /r/pleasemrcruzcanigiveyouarimjob ?

                        I'm sure all 300 of you will love circle jerking to el rato in private.

                        It gonna be real sad not being able to come here to watch you cucks crying over your True ConservativeTM when he gets his Canadian ass deported

                        [–]Humblenavigator [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                        I will vote for the eventual nominee in the general election because letting Hillary win the Presidency gives the left free reign of the courts. That would be an absolute disaster by most standards! So until then, y'all have fun being salty in your little "safe space".

                        [–]IronPathologistSowellian Buckleyite 4ポイント5ポイント  (10子コメント)

                        I support these decisions. Just a quick question...If someone accidentally presses Alt-Right on their keyboard, will they also be banned, due to the association of that movement with Trump and its authoritarian founder Richard Spencer?

                        [–]chabanaisStronger than derp[S,M] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Just hit Crtl-W to correct yourself.

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                          [–]GaiusGamer [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                          "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you." You have become like the New Liberal Fascists you first sought to fight. Do not worry little brothers, we supporters of the one and true Übermensch shall continue the fight in your place in the General this fall. Enjoy your safe space!

                          [–]PaganRaccoon [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                          Is this new private subreddit going to remove the score hidden feature? It's very annoying, and currently the duration of the score is so long to the point that a thread is buried before you can see the comment scores.

                          [–]Willingmess 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Well, ya forced me out of lurking. I don't want to lose this breath of fresh air. Crossing my fingers I get accepted.

                          [–]pearlofsandwichMARCOMENTUM 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

                          I don't understand. Is the questionnaire required for existing subscribers or just new ones? There 50k+ subscribers here. Why not just keep all subscribers in the private sub and kick people out as needed?

                          [–]chabanaisStronger than derp[S,M] 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

                          In order to access a private sub each person must be added one by one.

                          [–]Velostodon [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                          The largest Conservative subreddit will be going private on May 1st.

                          Bro, /r/the_donald isn't going private.

                          [–]chabanaisStronger than derp[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                          I've noticed how satire Subs like that and Sanders for president do really well here bro.

                          [–]JexInfiniteCruz Conservative 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I support a barrier for entry. If people want to join our conservative ranks, they should put in the 3 minutes of effort. The people who go to that minimal effort are the ones worth allowing in.

                          [–]ailurus1 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                          I guess this is the best place to ask a question about your quiz.

                          Just went through it, and I can only provide a yes/no answer to one of your yes/no questions. If I submit it with non yes-no answers, is it just a waste of my time and yours, or will you read through longer answers? Being a teacher, I fully understand why you have the yes/no questions on there but most of the issues you're trying to address in those questions are too complex for just a yes/no answer in my opinion.

                          (For example, gov't jobs. Yes, the government provides jobs - I'm a teacher, I have a government job. And so do soldiers, cops, etc. But, if I want to spur economic growth I'll go to private sector instead of the government since I feel private industry tends to be much more efficient and is also less likely to make the new jobs bureaucratic positions which will hinder further economic growth)

                          [–]ScootusBuckeye [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                          If the sub is going to go private, why not shorten the timeframe a bit? Maybe until the primaries are over? I imagine the hate and vitorol will die down a bit at that point.

                          Having the sub go private until the end of the entire election cycle just seems a bit heavy handed. And I myself have waffled on the issue. I agree that we get brigaded and trolled (moreso by /r/the_donald AKA /r/coontown than any of the more liberal subreddits) but I also criticize subs like /r/The_Donald for banning anyone who goes against the jerk (their reasons for banning are pretty outrageous though) and the hypocrisy on criticizing safe spaces while making a safe space.

                          How will you allow civil non-conservatives into the sub for actual discussion and debate? Not every Bernie supporter is a Sanderista and not every Trump supporter is a Trumpbot (just a lot of them).

                          [–]caribou16Moderate Conservative [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                          This is good, for a start. You should also restrict membership to the new /r/Conservative to people with Reddit Gold. 47% of redditors don't have jobs and can't afford it, so this will go a long ways to keeping the new space ideologically pure.

                          [–]IronPathologistSowellian Buckleyite [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                          There's already a karma threshold. You already have to be a contributor to the online community to post. Gold is... Nice, but your logic that only the one percent should be conservative is.... Full of holes.

                          [–]relationshipdownvote [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

                          Because we are the largest Conservative forum on Reddit

                          But /r/the_donald has more subscribers than you...

                          [–]rf32797Libertarian Conservative [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

                          Donal Trump isn't a conservative

                          [–]ItsPooly [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                          Neither is Ted Cruz by that same logic. Neither is closing off your subreddit because you literally can't handle people posting negative stuff about Cruz. In my eyes both are equally conservative.

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                            [–]ultimisConstitutionalist -3ポイント-2ポイント  (3子コメント)

                            Good luck mods! It's unfortunate that it has come down to this.

                            [–]thatrightwingerUltimate Conservative -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            There are already so many applications, and so many of them are failures. Its as if everything that we've been trying to spread has been completely ignored.

                            It's better this way.

                            [–]E-rockComment -5ポイント-4ポイント  (7子コメント)

                            What a great day!

                            [–]Conservitard_FundieBiblical Social Conservative [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                            Bravo bravo is all I can say! The airspace above a lot of people's heads must be pretty crowded today lol!

                            [–]thatrightwingerUltimate Conservative -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            I support the rest of the mods, but if you look back, I predicted this about a week ago. I would much prefer to have this only on the weekends, as previously done, but I stand with the decision, there are just too many non-Conservatives clogging up the system to make actual discussion possible

                            [–]chabanaisStronger than derp[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Unfortunately Trump has attracted a ton of non-Conservatives and they are polluting discussions trying to derail the GOP.

                            [–]MaladroitClock -4ポイント-3ポイント  (3子コメント)

                            Finally. I haven't seen a thread since I subbed that hasn't been inundated with RINO viewpoints or brigaded by Trumpbots. Good move.

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