PSTV leaker Mako8 has revealed details about PS4K via his friend AATYU.http://hissi.org/read.php/ghard/20160401/b3hQTlovNEMw.htmlhttp://hissi.org/read.php/ghard/20160401/eGp0L0VIVjQw.htmlCodenamed as "Orbis-NEO"Graphics power is more than doubled2.2 times more powerful GPU1.3 times more powerful CPU1.1 times faster RAMRAM size may be upgraded to 8.5GB for 4K renderingThrough update It can run 30fps games at 60fpsRelease: This Year(Nov or Dec?)Price: UnknownReveal: E3 2016(not sure)Won't replace ordinarily PS4Prior to the first PS4K rumor, Mako8 teased that some big stuff coming to PShttp://hissi.org/read.php/ghard/20160203/K0g4MmFHQ3gw.htmlhttp://hissi.org/read.php/ghard/20160316/K3pPNW1zR0Yw.htmlHe also said this isn't an april fool's jokehttp://hissi.org/read.php/ghard/20160326/eUdGTlcrdzUw.htmlMako8 isn't recognized outside 2ch, but he has a good track record when it comes to PS hardware.
>>332655181>Won't replace ordinarily PS4Except It's existence makes the PS4 obsolete.
>>332655181>2.2 times more powerful GPU>1.3 times more powerful CPUIt's funny, because CPU is the bottleneck on PS4, not GPU.
2.2 times more expensive.
all this buildup for an april fools joke
>Through update It can run 30fps games at 60fpssounds fishy
>>332655181Serious question here;What's the difference between the PS4.5 and Nintendo pulling the exact same shit like a year earlier with the New 3DS? I don't seem to recall anyone losing their shit and calling Nintendo shills when the New 3DS was announced despite the fact that Nintendo straight up said games would run better on the New 3DS as well as some games flat out not even working on the Old 3DS.I mean, the PS4.5 is a shitty move regardless and has pretty much made me lose faith in consoles at this point. But it really isn't anything new.
T-T-TAKE THIS DOWN NOW!
>>332655181>RAM size may be upgraded to 8.5GB for 4K renderingSony is committing financial suicide. You can't charge people money for an existing system, and then expect them to choose from a variety of "upgrades" when most won't select all of them.
>>332655181>1.3 times more powerful CPUso it still won't run anything well
>>332655868You forget that's it's okay when Nintendo does it.
>>332655759was thinking the same thing. I don't believe em, I actually don't believe these rumours or leaks at all. But if this thing spawns into existence this feature is all that's necessary to really justify it's existence. Just full blown 1080p 60FPS for everything. But again, the current one can't pull off 30fps all the time from what I have heard and I'm not well-versed enough to know if the new specs can pull off 60fps.
>>332655868It's literally okay when Nintendo does it.
>>332655181>b-but it's an April Fools joke>S-sony wontt jam their barbed cock down our thoats now they realized they have zero competition!Samsung when? We're gonna need Samsung to enter the console race and stomp Sony's shit in like they always do.
>>332656015That's kind of what I was alluding to, but yea, that's how it seems to me.
>>332655868People were used to it, due to the different incarnations of the DS. I wasn't here, when the DS came out, so I don't know how /v/ reacted to that.
So... Ps4 owners gets cucked soon?Worst than new 3ds desu~
>>332655759>an update can make a game specifically designed for the normal PS4's hardware run betterIt would have to be updated by the devs themselves for it to run better on newer hardware.
You need a fucking titan x/ GTX 980ti to play 4k at 60 fps. So no, most likely it will run at 30 fps or below.
>>332656072>>332656015>3ds has a shitload of games>ps4 has none and pulls this shithello neogaf
>>332655181This can't be real. Sony aren't that stupid.
it already has like 8.5 GB of Ram
>>332655181Does anyone actually believe this shit?
>>332655181That's pretty cool.
When this PS4K comes out do you think they'll drop the normal PS4's price? Also are they fucking evil enough to have original PS4's play an online FPS at 30fps while the PS4K plays the same game at 60fps giving the players with PS4K's a big advantage over players stuck at 30fps in an online match?
b-b-ut the power of t-the cell!!!
>>332656213Yeah, anime chibi game, anime chibi game and that anime chibi game.Fuck off, nintendildo.
>>332655868A n3ds costs much less than ~$600 hardware. Not saying its alright but it really isnt that big a deal and the jump in hardware isnt as high as from PS4 tk PS4K
We don't even have a single GPU that can play games at 4k at a constant 30FPS let a lone 60fps do we?
>>332655181its just going to upscaled to 4kmost PCs cant maintain 4k anway
>>332655868Except people did lose their shit, you just have selective memory.
>>332656395>most PCs cant maintain 4k anwayPC peasant race BTFO
>>332655396It's like the 3DS and N3DS, both are still being sold.
>>332656220power corrupts, look at nintendo after the success of the wii
>>332656363some guys uploaded supposed screencaps of benchmarks showing higher end cards running Witcher 3 at 4K and getting like 40-60fps, those could have been shopped pics though, haven't checked yet.
>>332656213>>3ds has a shitload of games
>>332655181>Through update It can run 30fps games at 60fpsInteresting, is this for old games too?
>>332656102The difference incarnations of the DS never upgraded the CPU or GPU's. It was basically just aesthetic changes to the unit itself, aside from the DSi and it's shitty camera feature (which I don't think was ever used in a game anyway). Shit, the DSi took away the ability to play GBA games, so it was a downgrade, in my opinion.
>>332656550It does though.
>>332656550you're mr steve autism
>>332655181>Through update It can run 30fps games at 60fpsI can't see many games doing this. We've all seen how many devs still tie their calculations to the framerate.
>people assume that 4K-enabled device must run games in 4KWhy do people believe this? PS3 could run games in 1080p but pretty much only GT5 did that. Even 1440p is a huge fucking upgrade over 1080p. Not to mention 60 fps.
>>332656581The DSi featured improved CPU and expanded RAM. U r retarded
>>332656604Those games don't count.
Bare in mind that games such as Bloodborne, which are usually coded to 30fps, will not be able to run at 60fps without issues (see weapon degradation in PC version of Dark Souls 2)
>>332655181>1.3 times more powerful CPUDEAD.Most games CPU bound.
>>332655868price point.It'd be like complaining about if a company came out with a $5 mike and then 6 months latter they come out with a "bigger and better" mike for $8$500 is a lot different from $350
>>332656604Tired franchises and lackluster third party games, sure. But it's hardly any better than the PS4.>>332656636Hilarious and original.
>>332656727Surely framedrops could be minimized with a hardware upgrade, even if nothing happens to the game's code?
>Have over 35 million customers>simultaneously dick them all in the assSony would find a way to screw up their success.
I bought a N3DS and got cucked by Nintendo, I'm gonna hold off for the PS4k at least a year to see how devoted are they gonna be for this beefed up PS4.
>>332656363TITAN X SAYS HI FAGGOT
>>332656267They'll probably drop OG PS4 to$200-250 or offer a trade-in discount.
>>332655901we're speaking about sonyggers anon, they are retarded and will buy anything sony shits out.
>>332655868The New3DS exclusives are dumbed down ports and indies, nothing very relevant. You can choose if you want the old version or the new version if you want some new features like a more stable 3D and amiibo support. The performance on some first parties games just improve a little bit on N3DS, like 25-30 vs 35-40 fps.
>>332656821Framedrops, yes, but you're not automatically going to have a game that is capped at 30 running at 60 with a simple hardware upgrade.
>>332655181No it's not. If you think any console can run 60 fps at 4K anytime in the near future you are an autistic faggot.If it's true, I will throw my 5000$ PC out the window and chop off my cock.
>>332655181MODS DELETE THIS
>>332656913I'm happy just to have 30 without drops desu
I'm really considering buying a PS4 just for Gravity Rush, Bloodborne, future exclusives, and BF4 and CoD.BF4 is best on PS4, the netcode on pc is fucked to shit but it's great on PS4 and apparently there are way more servers and players on PS4, please stop me /v/, tell me how retarded I am.
then why did they announce their plan to outsell the wii with the ps4?
>>332656913But not all framedrops can be fixed with gpu, ps4k still have shitty cpu.
>>332656821Yes, definitely. Happens all the time when consoles get new versions where you can observe small fps differences between the models.>>332656835If Sony plays it right, nobody gets dicked over. PS4K is same architecture as PS4. Any optimization done on PS4k automatically applies to PS4 aswell.
>He bought a PS4LOL
>>332656514>both are still being sold.But WHY would anyone buy an old 3DS?
>>3326566871440p is only available on monitors, not everybody plays on monitors.Though I'd rather they make games at 1080p, 60fps then 4k.
>>332655181>Release: This Year(Nov or Dec?)>Implying Sony would be retarded enough to release $400 Playstation VR and a ~$400 PS4K at the same time
>>332655181guys.. it is april 1st tomorrow... please stop
>>332656993>futurethat's what 40 million gullible people did already. It happens greatness awaited another system in the end.
>>332657041perfect for a bundle
>>332657108/thread
>>332657029Someone playing on 1080p benefits from 1440p downsampling.Someone playing on 4K benefits from 1440p over 1080p.But yes, 60 fps should be priority.
>>332657003yeah manwe'll just download the ram
>>332657023PS4's are becoming the new PS2, fucking everyone and their wifes sons have one. Also VR turned out to be a big pile of shit so fuck saving for that, I'm getting a PS4 and you cannot stop me.
I don't have a 4k TV, but will this guarantee a 1080p 60fps on every game?There's no point for me to get a 4k TV until its mainstream as 720p
>>332657003>Any optimization done on PS4k automatically applies to PS4 aswell.LOL
>>332657132>perfect for a bundle>Only 799>perfect
>>332655759>sounds fishyWhy? Most of games are locked to 30 fps, so they would have to unlock it through update.
>>332657108this ps4k rumor is like 1 or 2 weeks old already
>>332657194come back in a couple of months when buyer's remorse hits you faggot
>>332657194>PS4 is the new PS2>Nearly three years old>One gameiLOVEthis comparison
>>332657132>Tfw this might actually happen
>>332657149Ah yeah, I forgot about downsampling.
>>332657194>PS4's are becoming the new PS2, fucking everyone and their wifes sons have one.Jesus, it only sold 40M units in the whole world that shit is rare as hell what are you fucking smoking. Even the 100M of the wii barely made it "common" at all
>>332657121>greatness awaited another system in the end.and what system would that be? Please don't say Xbone or nintenshit
>>332657204You seem retarded. Please read some things on output resolution/display resolution and downscaling and maybe you'll understand
Will the price of the PS4 drop?I'm only seeing the $300 tag on refurbished models
>>332655181>Won't replace ordinarily PS4Yeah right.
>>332655396>>332655759Not really. The 4K upscale only really benefits those with fuckhueg TVs, and 30->60FPS increase only works if the devs decide to update the game in question, and even then it won't work well if they don't have framedata and shit like that properly set up (See: Bloodborne, as even if From updated it, it would have the double-damage shit and whatnot found in 60FPS Souls games)This hardware upgrade only seems to exist for 4K Blu Rays, and better performance for PSVR games.
>>332657234Epic post.It's the identical architecture. It's not PS3-PS4 difference. There is negligible difference between PS4K and PS4 in terms of architecture.
>>332656785>Most games CPU bound.
>>332655868People did lose their shit.Unless it's apple, there will always be people losing shit over this
>>332657108You think they wouldn't do it? PS4 has been far too successful, they will find a way to fuck it up.
>>332657024Because there are people who have a cuckolding fetish.
>>332657360The PS2 sold like 150M units over 10 years. 40M over less than three is an accomplishment.
>>332657024It's cheaper, easy to hack and FOR ME it got a better design. It's like buying a iPhone 6 vs 6s or a Galaxy S6 vs S6 Edge, just choices.
>>332657426When you have laptop tier CPU, they are.
so is this a whole new console?or is new parts i can uby and install?
>>332657507>laptop tier CPU*tablet tier CPUThe PS4 CPU doesn't even match laptop CPUs.
>>332657426>I know nothing about hardware or video games, but I'm going to pretend I do!
>yfw ps4k boosts sales and bring Sony additional profit
>>332657434>FB_IMGPlease, fuck off
>>332657242there's more to programming than locking the framerate in a variable. look at the recent killer instinct patch. programmer that lock games tend to consider the rest of the program to be in a safe context where they allow shit like hardcoding or counting frames. It sucks, but hey, if you are a good programmer you don't end up in the wageslave sweatchops that are video game companies.
>>332656557Here I fixed your picture.
>>332657426You do know that the PS4 has an amazingly shit CPU right?It's using an AMD APU for god's sake.The CPU is the bottleneck.
>>332657298But anon, Bloodborne, Arkham Knight, LoU, Destiny, MGSV, The Division, R6S, Gravity Rush, Dying Light, Valkyria Chronicles collection, Alien Isolation, Witcher 3, FO4, BF4, Until Dawn, Nuclear Throne, and Far Cry 4 are more than one game.eat a boner shit for brains
>>332657386LOL again.
>>332657627SONY ALWAYS WINS BABY
>>332657710Better.
>>332657764>LoU>Destiny>the divisionYou padded that list with literally rotten shit, congrats.
>>332657710Based.
>>332657764>Only one good exclusive>the rest are shitty multiplatswhoa....so.. this.... is.....the......power.....of....the......p.....s.....4
One of those times when you hear something, thinking yourself that if it turned out to be an aprils fools joke, your thoughts would be "god damn of course, that would've been fucking retarded" but still it actually being true seems plausible because vidya industry is such bullshit.
>>332657764>MGSV, Dying Light, Valkyria Chronicles collection, Alien Isolation, Witcher 3, FO4, BF4, Nuclear Throne, and Far Cry 4.Two letters: PC.
>>332657656Well, it's not like I expect every game to receive a patch. But some may surely get one.
Stupid questionIs it known if there's backwards comparability with regular ps4 games yet?Mine borked and if this is true, I might just wait a year to get a ps4k.
>>332657971Master raceBased anon
Seriously fuck Sony if they do this. I'll fucking sell my PS4 and get a PC. Absolutely a cunts trick
>>332657975Can't you juts get a replacement for free?
>>332657898Multiplats that are better on PS4, The Division and BF4 have better netcode on PS4 compared to PC. The rest still work fine and MGSV JUST FEELS WRONG on PC, I'd rather have my trophies and my PS4 pad and PS4 playerbase for multiplayer.
I seriously hope that they are not calling it PS4k. I mean, how more missleading can sony get?
>>332657764 What's BF4?
>>332657764That's 4 Sony console exclusive games and 2 of them are remasters.
Post yfw you waited on buying a PS4 and will now posses the superior version.
>>332655181If it was really double the GPU(which of course is not going to be, you have to be a neogaffer to believe that) it would make PS4 obsolete as soon as it comes out.
>Definitive list of actually good PS4 exclusives>Bloodborne>Disgaea 5 That's literally it, there's nothing else.
>>332658135That would be the main selling point though.
>>332658108>better netcode>ps4 pad>you can still use literally 10 thousand pads on pc>the steam servers are amazingFaggot much?
>>332658142Star Wars Battlefront 4K, it leaked and some people illegally got it and have it running on their PS4K devkits that they stole.
>>332658237The PS4 needs to be twice as powerful to bump 30fps to 60, or 720 to 1080p.
>>332655396obsolete for new buyers all the games will work, just not look as good on the old model PS4
>>332658086No, the glacier white ps4s are prone to fucking bricking. This is the 4th time my ps4 broke down and it's finally out of warranty so even though they've sent me three refabs they won't let me purchase one again.If the fightan scene on PC wasn't so dead I'd be fine with it. There was little use for it outside of fightans and my weaboo boobie simulators.
>>332658249>only exclusives count
>>332658265>BF4>SteamXboner detected.
>>332655181This is absolutely disgusting. But what's more disgusting is how Sony fanboys are eating this shit up and even defending it. Holy shit, learn to think with your own brain.>B-but N3DSI don't give a fuck. That was bad too, I am not a Nintendrone and I shitted on the N3DS since when it was announced. So stop using Nintendo just an embarassing excuse to deflect criticism from the crap your precious company is pulling off.PS4K is a scam and you are all ok with this.
>>332657971I'd rather not have to make a petition or donate money for all my games, and be stuck with indies, ports, and console scraps.
>>332658249While not exclusive, Cyber Sleuth and Gravity Rush are best played on the PS4.
>>332658390>Pay 400 dollars for a console with paid online to play games I can play on my PC for freeyesexclusives ARE the only thing that matters
>>332658108>BF4 have better netcode on PS4 compared to PCConsoles just a month ago got servers upgraded to 45 tickrate from 30.On PC tickrate has been 60 for over half a month now and they're working on 120.
>>332658427>talking about division>mfw you're this retardedtry more faggot
>>332656785come on dude, wtf?
>>332658305Sure, but is not going to be. Hardware hasn't dropped in price that much, so unless they are planning to sell the console at $800 the amount of performance gain is going to be very low.
>>332658503>PCs come freeCan I have one?
>>332655181YES, GIMME
>>332658505>>332658265Nice going you fucks, you just got memed on. That bait wasn't even with effort.You're not even worthy of being called part of the master race.
>>332658260What selling point? that system cannot run games at 4k, it would struggle with 1080p even.
Sony makes 4k moviesSony is a part of the bluray organization Sony makes 4k televisions It only make sense for them to launch a 4k capable console .
>>332658593:^)
>>332658685>marely pretending
>>332657108this
>>332657426The CPU is the biggest problem in PS4, mind you all the hardware is garbage tier, but the CPU is the worse part.
>>332658518>assuming people understand your shit language structureIt's okay, some of us are just born retreated. You can't help it.
>>332658503PSVR line op
>>332658774No I'm not the dude you got baited by. But what am I to expect from a daytime /v/care thread.Go buy a ps4k, that's where your type belongs.
>>332658690It's output is 4k, it can run movies in 4k. That's it. You think normies care about real rendered resolution? What matter is the fact it shows 4K in info on their screen.
>>332656363Constant 30 FPS is possible when the game is really well optimized. 60 FPS is literally impossible without SLI at the moment though.
>>332657382More power means devs will just make the graphics better at 30fps.
>>332656078Only one can dream, anon... Samsung for GOAT electronics
>>332655181>Won't replace ordinarily PS4
>>332655868are you retarded? new 3ds dont have more graphical power only faster cpu, and new 3ds was released much more later than the O3ds, this shit sony is doing its only 2 years after the ps4 and its vastly more powerful that will left behind the ops4
RIP NXTripped right out of the starting gate
>>332658685I wasn't even trolling, levelcapgaming agrees that BF4 is better on PS4 considering the netcode and player base. For some BF4 works fine on PC but for me it has all kinds of lag and dropped packets and other netcode related shit despite being able to run it at 60+fps, and every other online game I play works fine, it's just BF4's netcode hates my location / internet, and lots of people suffer from the same shit with PC BF4 (the inferior version).
>>332655901Sony will just phase out the original PS4 over time and push the PS4K to new buyers.
>>332659129NX is dead in the womb.
>>332659010My gaming laptop can run 4K at 60-70fps though, and I got it 3 years ago.
>>332658819>lost the argument like a retard>tries to attack the grammarKill yourself faggot.
>>332655868Handhelds are a lot cheaper than consoles. But people DID lose their shit over the N3DS.
>>332656835>screw upI don't think you understand when we say Sony has no competition atm.
>>332659014And again, that will only really benefit those with high-fidelity TVs unless they only focus on texture polishing
>all these shitposting pcucks spreading FUD againwhy dont you guys just give up?
>PS4K rumored to be released by the end of 2016>Yakuza 0 releases 2017>tfw will be able to enjoy Yakuza 6 in more stable framerate or maybe even 1080p resolution in 2019
>>332659332The only thing that pissed me off about the N3DS was the fact that they didn't give us a regular release of it stateside. I really wanted those faceplates, as well as that analog nubI just ended up buying a CPP for MH4U instead for 20 bucks.
>>3326581354K in itself is misleading. Up until 1080p every resolution got called its name based on its vertical height, but since 4K sounds better than 2K to the average Joe they used the horizontal width instead.And from a financial standpoint, it's working.
>>332658819>born retreatedI want phone users to fucking leave
>>332659308Post webms then.
>>3326587234k video capable console*My old laptop with Intel I3, 4GB of memory and a fucking Radeon HD 3870 could handle 4K video
>>332659331You got trolled I was just kidding, it was just for fun, I didn't even lose an argument because I was never arguing. You can stop pretending you're so smart now you dumb retrard.
>>332655181Guys i told you at PS4 and Bone launch about that. We need different versions of consoles. Porrfags and elite versions. Now Sony finally listened to me. This wins console war. Sony yes.
>>332659483It came out eventually but only with gay bundles.
>>332655181PC vs PS4 banterI just retired my pc, modest nano setup, popular i5 of time, gtx660. Playing PC since burning crusade, I got tired of it. Probably just get a laptop for school/pc games.My 300dollar bloodborne ps4 bundle with 2 controllers was worth. No troubleshooting. No windows bullshit. No more access to childish piracy. sorry pcmustardrace, you lost a soldier today.first day with ps4 got a headache, not used to focusing on something 10 feet away. Pretty pathetic
>>332658819>Tries to insult someone's grammar>Writes like a retard
>>332655181so is this the new console iteration style?instead of making a brand new console, make small updates and charge a little more every time?
Do people honestly believe that any PS4 games will actually be rendered in 4k? My guess is this is solely for Blu-rays and increased performance for VR games. Most gayming PC's can't even render AAA games in 4k, are any console gamers really going to buy the equivalent of a GTX 980/Ti or 390X/FuryX for their PS4?
>>332659789also should I buy a PS4?I already have a PC but.. yeh there's some good exclusives on PS4
>>332659635Normal people's computer is a laptop with integrated graphics.
>>332659892Wait for PS4.5
>>332659721>Porrfags and elite versions.I actually like that.
>>332659984I gotta see if I get hired somewhere first anyway so I can wait
>>332656267>Also are they fucking evil enough to have original PS4's play an online FPS at 30fps while the PS4K plays the same game at 60fps giving the players with PS4K's a big advantage over players stuck at 30fps in an online match?Another incentive to pay more money to Sony. Poorfags should be mocked and be reminded constantly that they need to spend more money. This is how real profits are made. (Add larger FOV to PS4K too *evil laugh)
>finally buy a PS4 >PS4k rumors pop up days laterFUCK.
>>332655181oh god, those specs. NX is finished.
>>332659969"Normal" people don't need 4K video
>>332658956PS4 can also play movies at 4k, this is not new.
>>332659621Did you not see that screencap of the article showing that like 65% of 4chan users post from their phones? Join the iPhone club before you get left behind gramps, or do you not have a phone because you're a virgin NEET with no friends or responsibilities? LOL, maybe you should save that money and not buy that new graphics card that gets you 1-2fps more in DOTA and instead buy something respectable you lame dumbshit.
>>332657024Because it's fucking cheaper and ppl that have a ps4 and want a ps4k might sell the fucking console to ppl that don't have one?
>>332660179Mobile posting makes it easier to ban-evade though.
>>332660146But it can't display user interface in 4k, can it? And even if it can, only at 24hz.
>>332660138Do we even know what the NX actually is?
>>332660118Advantage would only be present in extremely high paced games.
>BUT, BUT, BUT Nintendo. PS4K is a bigger jump then N3DS. 2160p/UHD/4K is literally 4 times pixels of 1080p.
>>332660142But they will. 4K tvs will be the norm in 3 years 1080p is over now for anybody getting a new tv.
>>332660385You would have to be retarded if you believe it would render games in such resolution.
>>332660353No
I bet anything it will be using HDMI 1.4 to output the 4k signal and the picture will be 4:2:0 subsampled as a result. Nvidia uses the same magic on Kepler cards to get 4K@60hz over HDMI 1.4. I'll be very surprised if they actually put 2.0 outs on that thing, or even a display port which is more unlikely.
>>332660486They would probably upscale the resolution for the vid.
>>332660409Phones are already starting to hit 4K resolutions, there is no need for a TV anymore.Besides, there is absolutely nothing on the television network that has 4k resolution, they have 1080p at best, like 90% of them are still using 720p
>>332660385I hope you like your 4k Blu-ray player that'll feature a scaler for games. WOO HOO 4K SCALED GAMES MUSTARD RICE.
>>332660514BUT IT IS DEFINITELY FINISHED YOU SEE
>>332656993http://bf4stats.com/PS4 does have more people playing at 33k right now. While it's 10k more people then PC, 23k people is still a fuckton and you won't be running into the same people. Keep in mind that multiplayer games with dedicated servers tend to live far longer on PC. Gravity Rush and Bloodborne do look good and are two of the games that make the PS4 look like it's worth getting. But buying a console for yearly/semiyearly multiplatform FPS releases when you already have a PC that can run them is just stupid.
>>332660760Yeah, 100% of the games will just be upscaled. I'm just worried retards will think the game itself is in 4k, I remember a friends who bought a 1080p monitor for his PS3 and didn't realize most games were still rendered at 720p.
its unreal that sony would do this, so Im honestly waiting for an official announcement its microsofts DRM box tier retarded, but with over 30 million people who already invested in a PS4 getting up in arms about itadd to that the "fame" they will get for pulling off a stunt like this and see how many people will buy a PS5
>>332660409You need 100''+ screen to see difference between 1080p and 4K video.
>>332659887My guess is that it will use some kind of funky upscaling on the 1080p games to try and smooth them out without rendering them at 4k, and it will have support for UHD Blu Rays and 4k netflix. There is no way it will actually render games like Bloodborne natively at 4k.
>>332660943Bloodborne is massively overhyped, unless you really like the setting you probably won't find it worth buying the console for
>>332660409>1080p is over now for anybody getting a new tvHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>332661067>he's never used a 4k monitor Must suck to be a poorfag
>>332655396Nigga the PS4 was already obsolete a couple years ago.
>>332661054My Smart TV has a smooth-motion effect that I thought would work on PS3 games.
>>332661067>You need 100''+ screen to see difference between 1080p and 4K video.No?Ever heard of PPI, you mong?
>>332660409Like no TV shows actually benefit from 4k and 4k monitors are pointless unless you're playing older games. I never saw the point in playing stuff like The Witcher 3 at 4k with framerate drops everywhere.
>>332661267Monitors are watched close. This is the point.
>>332655181This is amazing, luckily I didnt pick one up 2 months ago. Now I can wait for GREATNESS and enjoy the power of the SUPERCHARGED PC.
ps4 is for the mass and normal/poor people, ps4k is for people with more money and also have a 4k tv wich is not cheapits kind like pc, there are pc from 500e and pc from 2000e
>>332661429Ever heard of PPD?
>>332661060Seems like sony is trying to kill off every good guy point theyve gotten so far literally after xbox does backwards compatibility and quantum break
>>332661142That's why I haven't bought a PS4 yet. 2 games don't justify 400 bucks for a console with paid online.
>>332661067Complete and utter horseshit. I used a 40" 1080p TV (55 PPI) as a monitor for years, and recently upgraded to a korean 39.5" 4k 110PPI monitor, and it is a world of difference. I even compared them side to side and after getting used to the 4k, the test on the 1080p screen seems straight up blurry now.
>>332661657>note that the PPD parameter is not an intrinsic parameter of the display itself, unlike absolute pixel resolution (e.g. 1920×1080 pixels) or relative pixel density (e.g. 401 PPI), but is dependent on the distance between the display and the eye of the person (or lens of the device) viewing the displayWhoops, I forgot, I was on /v/, where people don't know what the fuck they're talking about
>>332661674When 4k bullshots of games will start appear any other arguments will be forgotten. >look at our graphics and awe>this is PS4>join master raceYou have no answer to such tactics.
>>332661643It would be kinda hilarious if the PS4K was like $2000 and could actually play Bloodborne at 4K/30fps. I'm sure someone would buy it.
>>332661060Same. All rumors point to it being true, but the sheer retardedness of it makes me think they're bullshit, or at least inaccurate. Like something's missing.
So the CPU is still a huge bottleneck?They should've doubled the CPU power instead
yfw realizing regular PS4 will be discontinued before Wii U.
>>332660827its nintendo of course its finished
>>332661517And I can easily tell the difference between a 1080p monitor and a 4k monitor, that image isn't the end all be all
>>332661891At what distance do you watch them?
>>332662051well not like a pc of 2k e but yes like a pc of 800e, also dont forget that 4k tv, that shit cost like hell
>>332662131Nice.
>>332662054It's a fake leak. The guy literally doesn't know what hes talking about
>>332655181>RAM size may be upgraded to 8.5GB for 4K rendering... It's fake. This would require a complete re-architecture of the memory systems on PS4. This isn't a simple process at all.
>>332662051>I'm sure someone would buy it.People pay hundreds bucks for skins. Of course they will buy it. Top segment has money buy they are not milked today.
>>332662131It's already 300
>>332655868nice memory bruh
>>332662131
>>332662051Just being upscaled to 4k isnt enough. Also only 10% of the PS4 fanbase bought Bloodborne. It isnt a system seller for your average normie.
>>332657492>cheaperMeaning the poorfag version>easy to hackLiterally the same process>better designSo they would have to make the PS4K uglier for the PS4 to stay relevant?
>>332660780Streaming is using it.>>332661067People like the newer stuff regardless
>>332662339200 is the right price for such few exclusives.
>>332662508No, I know the difference between upscaled and rendered, that's why I said $2000. Let's see, for a 4k PC you probably need a $300 CPU and a $600-800 GPU not counting all the other stuff. Either way it would be the most expensive console of all time.
>>332662525>he bought a N3DS
>>332662563>Streaming is using it.Like some fucking normies that watch family fucking feud on their tv would be interested in fucking streamingAlso, look back at my previous post, phones are already hitting 4K resolutions with ridiculous PPI.Getting to watch streams anywhere you want with crisp visuals is better than watching one on your couch on a TV where one pixel is the size of a fucking bathroom tile.Televisions are fucking useless nowadays
>>332662747>for a 4k PC you probably need a $300 CPU and a $600-800 GPU not counting all the other stuffWhat?You'll pay $1200 at most to run 4K
>>332662856Only because I didn't have an O3DS.If I did I would have just told nintendo to go fuck themselves for making my console perform like shit on future games.
>>332662960I guess it depends on the game, like my GTX 960 can downsample CSGO at 4k, but for something like TW3 or RotTR you'll probably need a 980Ti.
>>332660780Can you even tell the difference between 4k and 1080p on a phone without using a fucking maginifier?Seriously it's the most fucking pointless way to create premium products.
>>332663025>Only because I didn't have an O3DS.This understandable.>If I did I would have just told nintendo to go fuck themselves for making my console perform like shit on future games.The only game that have a notable performance difference on O3DS is Hyrule Warriors, they should have made it N3DS exclusive but they are fucking jews and released a obviously N3DS optimized game for the O3DS.
There are actually people in this thread that would take 4k over 144Hz
>>332662859Watch video on a device you have to hold to your face is stupid. 4K tv's are in all the shops.
Guys... Guys ... What if we will charge extra price for 4K versions of the games? It would be even better.
>>332663785Depends on the game.
>>332655868The biggest selling point for the n3ds is the better 3d effect and second stick. The extra power literally affects only 3 or 4 games. Its completely different with this.
http://kotaku.com/5311540/when-polls-go-wrong-the-most-popular-monster-is
>>332660353All we know is that it's dedicated hardware. Anything else is pure speculation.
>>332663910Watching video on a device that upscales everything and makes shit looks blurry as fuck is stupidNot only that, you have to sit a fucking mile away to not get eyestrain on a huge television
>>332662627If the PS4 dropped to $200 I would buy one immediately and so would a goriallian other people.
>>332663563The only benefit I can see is for video capture. But I mean if video quality is so important to you than you probably use something besides a phone for professional work.
>>332665660What is "Just Scan"?Seriously, holding your screen?
>>332663785Single-player games >graphics/resolution, as long as framerate isn't garbageMultiplayer games>Framerate
>>332657710HNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
bump
I'll wait for the slim version.
First it's launching in 2017 from a different leaker and now it's launching this year?I smell bullshit.
This sounds so fucking dumb that i honestly think it's some elaborate ruse or a giant misunderstanding.
>>332663785Yeah?I don't give a shit about frame rate as long as it's stable and never dips below 30.
Is there any chance Sony will clear things up any time soon?
>>332669996that's because you never tried 144fps
>>332655181As someone who was waiting to buy a PS4, I am glad they are doing this. Early adopters tears are Delicious
>>332670091We can only hope Sony talks about it on E3
>>332655181I'll just sell my current PS4 and xbox360. no big deal.
>>332655181Who is going to be making this shit?AMD is has way to much on their plate with Polaris and Zen so where are these super duper extreme new APU's coming from. Unless they make it a separate CPU and GPU but that would be redesigning the whole console making it a PS5
>>332670254I don't get that thought unless you're poor, I picked one up last week for 250$ and in 8 months when it releases I'll sell this one out in 300$ and that's it...
>>332670489None of the games I want are out
>>332670254As a guy that didn't waste his teen years and has a good career I'm also fine with it.
>>332670382I was thinking of getting one, I was hoping for a Ratchet and Clank bundle.
>>332670549Waste his teen years? I'm 21, have girlfriend, currently senior at college with 3.70 gpa and work part time and play vidya more than normies wtf you mean?
>>332670176I have played games at higher framerates. I'm not some retard who screams about their incapability to go back to older console games because of their framerate. I've played games in all their sub-30 FPS glory on the PS3 such as Darksiders and Dishonored. I've played PS3 games that have a stable FPS like SotC on PS3, Killzone 2, Dragon's Crown, and Ni no Kuni. I've played 60FPS games on the PS4 such as MGS V, Gravity Rush, and Samurai Warriors 4. I've also played a handful of games at 60 FPS on the PC and even played Battlefield 4 at 120fps on PC.
>>332655594Rendering the same scene, whether at 4k or 1080p uses the same CPU power.
>>332670753>has a girlfriend>senior in college>calls others normiesGet the fuck outta here.
>>332670753You're the type of guy that would actually look when someone shouts "Hey, faggot!", aren't you?
>>332670840The problem is the PS4 has framerate issues even now. Who would buy an upgraded, more expensive PS4 that still has a shitty CPU? So instead of 900p/30fps with drops, we'll get 1080p/30fps with drops. What an improvement.
>>332671241>The problem is the PS4 has framerate issues even nowThat depends entirely on the game in question.
>>332670840No it doesn't you idiot
>>332670840retard spotted
>>332671287Name a demanding game that doesn't have framerate issues. I have to specify "demanding game" because if I just said game you would say some bullshit like little big planet
>>332655181>>332655181This sounds so fucking fake, how are people falling for it so easily?
>sony fags will need to shell out another 400-500 bucks just to get 60 fps>wont even be stable
>>332671717I won't be able to single out "demanding games" really, but it has games that are either stable at 30 or 60 or have unlocked framerates that never dip below 30>stable 30Shadow of Mordor, Second Son (Locked), Witcher 3 (After the 1.10 patch), Destiny, Fallout 4, MLB, >Stable 60Metal Gear Solid V, Dragon Quest Heroes, Samurai Warriors 4>Unlocked never dips below 30Killzone Shadow Fall, Second Son (unlocked),
>>332671993You make it seem like casuals, aka most people who play games, give a shit about framerate or even know what it is.
>>332672423Moron, stable means it actually stays at 30 with only 1 or 2 dropped frames. Every game you listed still have massive framedrops.
Sony executives pushing 4k tech, less to do with better gameplay really but films on blu Ray
>>332672590Have you even actually played those games? hell you can look up the Framerate tests for those games on digital foundry right now if you want to. They do exactly that.
>>332662052It's probably just a slim version. and maybe will have support for 4k netflix and blurays. I doubt it would change the performance of games.
>>332672684Shadow of mordor-framedropssecond son-framedropsWitcher 3-massive framedropsDestiny-framedropsFallout 4-framedropsMLB-lolMetal gear solid 5-framedrops in massive basesAll digital foundry videos support this so I have no idea where you are getting your information
>>332672423>Witcher>Stable 30>Patch 1.10ayy
>>332672423>Fallout 4No man. I have a PS4 only this gen and that shit drops frames like a bad habit. And I'm pretty sure every sports game is 60 fps. NBA 2k and Madden are so I doubt MLB the show would be 30 fps. CoD is always a stable 60 fps on consoles though.
>>332673425>CoD is always a stable 60 fps on consoles though.About that
>>332673071>>332673071>I have no idea where you are getting your informationDigital foundry. Here, I'll even post some videos for you.>Mordorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_6ChIGB1yA>Infamoushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwWCyH2HfEU>Destinyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxOpOssJsHM>MGS Vhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A49JZWpmu0
>>332673684I'm pretty sure online is a stable 60 fps. It's been like that on consoles since CoD 4 back on the 360. I don't know anyone who gives a fuck about CoD campaign anyway or CoD at all now desu.
>>332673825You can't always rely on digital foundry kiddo. They move as slowly as possible and look around as slowly as possible in barely demanding situations to make the framerate seem consistent. Sometimes they are good but most of the time they are bad.Mordor-not showing footage in the grasslands since the main map is empty as fuckInfamous-no scenes with demanding scenarios like the ending bossfightDestiny-No scenes with demanding scenarios, mostly custscenesMGS5-Ill take it as I've played on the PC and it is a really well optomized game. Still massive framedrops in big bases though.
>>332655181As an owner of 55 inch 4k tv and no 4k br player, this is godsend for me. I can just move my ps4 to my other telly so that's no biggie. I can see why someone would be mad, but I can totally see myself getting behind this 2 versions per console idea. At least the games won't be THAT stagnant for 10 years.
>>332655181
>>332655181>2.2 times more powerful GPU>1.3 times more powerful CPU>1.1 times faster RAMDoesn't matter how optimized the platform is, there is no chance in hell this is enough for 4.k gaming.This is basically PS4 Slim. Screenshot for truth.
>>332674409
>>332674295>literally say that Digital foundry supports the claims that they have terrible framerate drops>"you can't always count on DF" after videos show otherwiseWhatever kid.
>>332675037>Digital foundry supports the claimsI never said that though, that was some other anon. I just used his method of explaining because it works well.
>>332675252>i never said that>>332673071>>All digital foundry videos support this so I have no idea where you are getting your information
>>332674546Literally nobody is stupid enough to believe this thing will run games at native 4K. Even in the released info it said "upscaled".
>>332675470>Literally nobody is stupid enough to believe this thing will run games at native 4KYou clearly don't look hard enough.
So the PC won againtop kek
>>332656267>Also are they fucking evil enough to have original PS4's play an online FPS at 30fps while the PS4K plays the same game at 60fps giving the players with PS4K's a big advantage over players stuck at 30fps in an online match?Oh get the fuck over it. Who cars? Don't act naive like there aren't retards on the PC who have shitty hardware or jack their settings up so they're not playing at 60FPS like everyone else in the match.Stop trying to play the/create victims here. Consoles are moving away from set hardware and just becoming some kind of living-room pre-built PC. Do you flip your shit every time Dell comes out with a new pre-built?>WTF DELL, what about us poorfags who just got the last pre-built! Now my shit is inferior? REEEEEEEEEE
>>332657194>PS4's are becoming the new PS2The PS2 wasn't full of games you had to pay an annual subscription fee to get all functions out of. The PS4 will never be equal to the PS2. The PS4 is some full blown Microsoft bullshit and will forever be trash.
>>332660409>1080p is over now.I literally just got a brand new TV that's 1080p, and I don't need anything more.
>>332676227>or jack their settings up so they're not playing at 60FPS like everyone else in the match.Since when is playing at sub60fps an advantage?
>>332676441But the Vita is the next PS2.
>>332675385I just said that was some other person
>buys PS4>"upgrades" by buying a PS4K as well>$900, still only lasts one console generation>could have spent $10 000 on a gaming PC>a PC in the $10 000 price range would last at least two console generations>people claim that console gaming is cheaperI don't even. Especially not with paid online. I really do not even.
>>332655901>"You cant expect people to pay full price for a game and then charge them 35$ later on for content that was obviously supposed to be in the main game"You underestimate the stupidity of people
>>332655868Nothing except PS4.5 will have more games that use its power
With all the shit going on in modern gaming, I looked to a savior, a company I could trust. I knew I couldn't trust Nintendo with their censorship, amiibo scams and region locking shit, or MS who tried to destroy physical games and make everything cloud based, and now I know I can't trust Sony due to them scamming people with the PS4 when they have an upgrade waiting 3 years after launch. And of course Steam has always been a scam since it's all DRM protected because they own the rights to "your" games.But in the wake of this I know who to trust, who actually has my best interests at heart. But you'll have to let me explain because it sounds deranged. Denuvo. Because they don't want me to buy a new console a year or two after I buy a PS4 and "keep gaming" or to buy cloud connected game to "keep gaming" or to buy amiibos so I can unlock on disc DLC and "keep gaming" with compromised, censored games.No, Denuvo just doesn't want me to play games at all. Because when Denuvo is on a game--I can't play it, full stop. Since Steam is not an option, a game using Denuvo merely means I won't be able to play that game. They don't ask anything more. There's no lower quality compromise like an old PS4 or a 360 arcade. There's no scam they're running. They want me to go outside, to be free, to frolic in the hinterlands. They whisper in my ear "go read a book," or "go watch anime," they whisper to me of the joy that can be had outside the gaming madhouse. And when all PC games use Denuvo, that will be the day I am truly free. I'm not kidding. This is how bad it has gotten. The only salvation is an end to video games.
>tfw my ps4 isn't even 4 months old
>>332657041This guy gets it
>Initial ps4k rumours few weeks ago>Getting more information these past few days>April fools tomorrowYeah, not buying it. All this so called 'leaked info' is bs.
>>332655181How are they going to deal with the expenses of the inevitable worldwide suicide watch?
>>332657041That's the only way PSVR works. PS4 can't handle it
>>332679696Externalities, my good man. Corporations don't have to pay for that, governments do.
>>332655181Fuck this. If this gets announced I'm ditching my PS4.
>>332679091I was thinking about one next month for my birthday
>>332679830Word.Fuck Sony, I'm switching to NX this gen
>guys buy ps4>greatness awaits>but bigger greatness awaits if you buy ps4 4,5
>>332655181Sony confirmed new apple>delusional fan base>market shaping strategies>huge PR expenses (see e3 lies-trailers)
>>332655181sad thing is that people will buy it. I have a retard friend who doesn't even have a 4k TV, he bought his ps4 3 months ago but he is ejaclating how great this is and he will buy one surely
>>332656514No, it's not anything like that because as someone who owned both the 3DS and N3DS the N3DS is only marginally better. The PS4K's existence this early on is going to doom the regular PS4 later in the generation when the PS4K is used as the baseline.
>>332681624Devs are already maxing out PS4 because this is x86, an architecture they know well from being little PC shits. It will doom it now, not later.
>>332656010It's retarded You can't even say it's 2x more powerful since the cpu is only 30% betterOn top of that, the APU in the ps4 is shit so 2x gpu isn't saying much.
>>332683013APU is the cancer that kills consolesThey were much stronger and better off when they had a dedicated cpu and gpu
>Biggest info leaks happen in March 30th and 31stWhat a coincidence.
>>332683327It's not a joke
>>332655181BUT I NEVER HAVE TO UPGRADE WHEN I PURCHASE CONSOLESONLY PCGAYMERS HAVE 2 DO THATRIGHT?????
This upgrade cash grab is just to introduce their new 4k movie streaming servicepsvr is doareviews will be hideous
>>332682751They are maxing out the PS4 because the hardware was shit.
>>332683491How do you know this? Every single info release conflicts with another in some way, like release dates and some specs. No one knows anything outside of Rumors from "independent unnameable sources" and unverified "insiders".The only way to know if it's real or not is to see what Sony ends up saying on the matter. So far, this all seems way too stupid to be real. Plus, stuff like this happens every single year. Every year there are massive gaming rumors months ahead of E3 and every year they end up being fake.
>>332675779I'm just happy the parity limit is lifted. Sonycucks can buy all the iterations they want for I care.
>>332655181The Neogaf "leak" is more believable than this shit.
>>332683695Yet they're all from trusted leakers. Thus they are all real. We live in a quantum system where the PS4k will come out in Nov of this year and March of next year. How do we do this? Japan. March: Japan. Nov: US. US are big cucks on the block so they get it first. Japan has to wait because they haven't bought the 90 gorillion PS4s shipped to stores there yet
>welcome to the new world>to the new world ...
>>332659526Well shit
>>332657426They are astoundingly CPU bound. It's why the XB1 handles crowds in AC:Unity slightly better than PS4. Since AI is heavy on CPU.
Just wait for the PS4K Only Games.Just wait for the 4K DLC patches.Just wait for the unplayable PS4 versions.Just wait for the massive delays on PS4 versions.
>>332655868Because the 3DS was fucking released in 2010 how dense can you be. 5 year old hardware is a lot more passable than a console that honestly in my opinion taken off yet. There's only a handful of playable games for ps4
>>332661828Borrow that shit from a friend then. I say figure it outPlaying the DLC for bloodborne right now and it is truly epic.
>>332685675Good. Let Sony fail again. If they do that shit, they deserve it. They saw what happened to Microsoft when they tried to push their TV and Kinect and always online check, so if they haven't learned from that then they deserve any and all terrible things that will come to them.
>>332685803The PS4 uses hardware from 2010/2011. It's power was "good enough" when it released in 2013. The PS4 as it is, is using shitty 5 year old hardware.So you can't use that argument for the 3DS, try again.
This is just a stupid April fools joke you retards. This thing doesn't make any sense and there's no info on what it actually does. Companies aren't gonna develop a game that works on both machines and perform differently. Jesus you're all so dumb
>>332685898The funny thing is PSVR requires a camera to use (Not even Valve's IR Blasters. A Camera) and the current PS Camera has notable headtracking lag. Imagine if the PS4K had a required camera because "VR"
>>332655181>Beef up the specs.>mfw they still probably wont do PS3 emulation and bring their games over to the PS Store.I really hate PS Now, its shittier than OnLive was and I want to some of the PS3 games I missed out on without the 2 second lag between movements. Would buy a PS3 but a new one is stupidly expensive for some reason, plus I don't want to lose shelf space.Who even gives a fuck about 4k here? I bet most of you don't even have a 4k television, that includes me as well. Most consumers in general do not have that, which makes the biggest feature of this halfway upgrade null and void. They really should figure out a better reason for this thing to sell besides iffy 60fps bumps left to the devs and 4k.
>>332686149Stage 1: Denial
>All these leaks coming from different placesWelp, this fucking shit is pretty much confirmed at this point isn't?Fuck Sony.
>>332686206The biggest feature is new games still running at 30 fps, anon.PS4 will become the 4 fps machine
>>332686168>that imagewhat if I'm mute?
>nintendo shitting on all their fans with the n3ds>sony shitting on all their fans with the ps4.5>microsoft clearly folding and going for win10 success over trying to resuscitate the xboneI wouldn't have actually believed the possible end of consolegaming would actually come on the horizon this fast even just 1-2 years ago.I honestly thought it would happen around 2020-2022 when all the consoles are struggling because they are being eclipsed by mobile phone hardware, instead they just went out of their way to accelerate their death by going for short term profits, outright poking the customers eyes out with the shortcomings of the existing generational system of consoles.Its certainly interesting to watch this from the sidelines reaping all benefits buying only "upgraded" consoles with existing libraries and once they are hacked.
>>332660353Dead... just like Nintendo Rip.How long do you guys think it'll be til Sony buys Nintendo?
>>332686535They will never be hacked. You probably think you can play Just Cause 3 on PC without paying Jewben for it too
>>332663339>RotTR>>332663339>>332663339I could barely run 1080p maxed out on the new rise of the tomb raider.
>>332686650We'll see anon, I don't mind paying for the games either - as it is it'd cheap as shit because theres barely a few games I'm interested in.Interesting that that was the only point you could latch onto though.
This is just a scam to sell more 4K tvs and you guys are just eating it up. Also calling it now, they are going to pull an oculus and say it's going to be really affordable until about release time then say it cost more than expected to make, then raise the price to about $800.
>>332686535>I wouldn't have actually believed the possible end of consolegaming would actually come on the horizon this fast even just 1-2 years ago.Thank god it is happening this fast.I look forward to only having to buy a PC to play all the games.
Enough with the bridge jumping, guys.Calm down, take a breath and think about this.This is an upgrade that most people won't be taking advantage of. Sony is getting in on their 4kUHD players when the market is ripe for it.Just like the PS2 and PS3 before it, it is a launch vehicle for a media format.Studios aren't going to drop Ps4 development for a niche upgraded platform that most of their install base doesn't have and won't upgrade to for at least a few years.Sony's thinking in this is that they get these 4k players into early adopter households and by the time the general public pick one up (after already getting a 4k tv), they will have a profitable machine that can be good for stockholders and the overall health of the company.Anyone saying this is the death of PS4 is at least 3 years early. sheeshs
>>332687034>Anyone saying this is the death of PS4 is at least 3 years early. sheeshsThe PS4 was supposed to last as long as the PS3 or longer. PS3 actually has a library. PS4 has 2-3 games
>>332655181>Orbis-NEO>NEOAs in, shit, this the ONE?! The console we've all been waiting for?My PS4's a games console above all else, and I'm not interested in VR. If there's no difference to the games, why should I even consider this?
>>332686978Yeah, I mean I'm afraid win 10 will succesfully spread and we'll have a much shittier "freedom" on PC soon, so this kind of helps atleast.
>>332687120>PS4 has 2-3 gamesTo be honest with you familia, PS4 still only has Bloodborne.I also wouldn't be surprised if they make Bloodborne UltraHD Remake for the PS4.5
>>332687304You shouldn't unless you have a 4k tv and want utilize it, but even then it's like why bother.
>>332687120I thought companies didn't want another 10 year generation.
>>332676227>Oh get the fuck over it. Who cars?People who don't enjoy being cucked by sony because of their millenial indifference disease
>>332655396Yeah, sure... if the standart PS4 is going on the shelf for 249 buckaroous, obsolete or not the old PS4 is going to matter more then ever, deal with it.
>>332655396this DESU
inb4 its upscaled 1080p
>>332655868
>>332655868one is a handheld and the other is a home console
>>332655181>RAM size may be upgraded to 8.5GB for 4K renderingso now we're making up shit that sounds cool to uneducated fools?
>>332655868Well the PS4.5 may handicap old PS4 users in online games
Only relevant question:Will this make Bloodborne's framerate acceptable?
>>332690346Yes, and?
>>332690346are people genuinely this stupid mid gen upgrades are commonplace in the handheld market because the new handheld won't invalidate the previous model's value but an upgrade to a home console has a much bigger impact to the previous system's value
>>332655181>change resolution>people think graphics will magically become betterless jaggies, that's it. the textures, shaders, everything else will remain the same.the games were coded that way, changing resolution isn't going to magically enhance the rest of the graphics.It's like making Quake 1 run in 4k and the graphics magically turn into the new DOOM quality
>>332655181oh, i wonder what is today.THAT IS RIGHTAPRIL FOOLS
>>332691067how's life in new Zealand?
>>332655181>make a new PS4 with double the power>still going to be a 30 fps machine
>>332690853Sonyfanboys are huge hypocrites and still the worst fanbase
>>332690945>a console won't invalidate a console>but a console will invalidate a console
>>332657710>Fixed>Purple strands still all over the place.Niger you didn't fix shit.
Abril fool maybe
>>332691067This has been talked about since 2 weeks ago.
>>332655181>only twice as strong GPU>A 970 is as powerful as 4.5 PS4sits still shit>>332655396yeah but the 4k will be $599 or something while normal ps4 is $300sony is cashing on the iCucks who buy a $700 phone every year.
>make it so ps4.5 is 60 fps>dude how is this going to negatively affect people using the original PS4 at 30 fps in an online game?GEE
>>332655594>1.3 times more powerful>1.3 times as powerfullearn the difference
>>332691459can you read or are you just retarded
>>332691664Tell me how a PS4.5 will affect the PS4 if a DSi didn't affect the DS and DS lite.
>>332657784>>332657386>>332657234>>332657003>>332656835The guy arguing this is wrong is a fucking retard and I HATE Sony.The new PS4 is basically a PC versus a stronger PC. Same architecture faster components. But its still a console and therefore liquid shit.
>>332655181>consolefags going apeshit over a resolution changeffs the PC has ben doing it with 1 click of the mouse for decades now
>>332655181>ps4 selling like crack>has over 50% market share>already nearly 40m sold>set to outsell PS2 total and already far outpacing it>Sony does this when literally nobody asked for or wanted itAre they fucking retarded? They were selling each PS4 at a comfortable profit, too. Why slash your profit margin like this? Why piss off 40 million customers? Why fragment the market? Why not just release the PS5 in three years or so, giving this console cycle a solid 5-6 years as was the traditional cycle before the 7th gen?This is just a straight retarded business move. Hardly anyone even has a 4KTV right now or even cares for it. If they're hoping this will sell them more 4KTVs they're fucking deluded since Samsung always kicks their ass in that market.All I can think is that they're really fucking confident in VR and expect it to take off in a huge way, so much so that people will want to buy a new console for it for better performance. Personally I really don't see that happening, not at the current price point. I wouldn't give a shit about VR even if I could get it at $200.On the other hand, sadly the mainstream consumer is a retard and buys a $600 phone every year. These monkeys know nothing about putting a PC together for example. What the fuck else are they gonna do? Nobody cares about Nintendo and Microsoft have already hinted at a similar strategy to the one Sony's doing. It seems the modern consumer just doesn't mind getting fucked in the ass.We're screwed. I do still believe this will be bad for PS4 and PS4.5's total sales though. Had they not done this, I'm sure PS4 on its own would have outsold PS4/4.5's combined sales.
>>332655868This comment is fucking genius. All you have to do is pretend no one was outraged about the N3DS and you get thousands of replies from underage fanboys. Well done I tip my hat to you sir.
>Constant WiiU is dead for real this time threads because of NX rumor by shitposting sonyfaboys>original PS4 is about to be dead in less than 4 yearsFucking Karma strikes once again!
>>332691572>2.2 times more powerful>twice as strongCan nobody on /v/ speak english?If OP is correct it's 3.2 times as strong, i.e. pretty much in line with what AMD promises in performance/watt improvements with Polaris.
>>332691754the ps4.5 will have better visuals, framerate, optimization etc and the dsi gave the owner what new features?
>>332691780thing is people buy consoles so they don't have to fuck around with PC's issues or upgrade regularly and because with consoles everyone is on the same hardware so you won't lose due to shitty hardware. That all goes out the window with this.If I have to upgrade my console every now and then to ensure it runs as well as everyone elses and I won't lose due to shitty hardware, why would I ever get a PS4 and not a PC?
>>332687034>Sony is getting in on their 4kUHD players when the market is ripe for it.Sony doesn't have any 4K players or any 4K games.And they won't after the PS4 2.0.You need a LOT more than double the PS4's GPU to play games at 4K, and we've seen that console games don't run any better than the PC versions on equivalent hardware this gen. Shit, some of them actually run worse on PS4 than on PCs w/ a 7850 (Sonyggers claim PS4 has a specially optimized 7870).The 970 is something like 4.5-5.0x better than the PS4 at $300 and it struggles to do modern AAA (think GTA V, Battlefeel, CoD) at 4K without serious sacrifices in settings. Not because of memory or the 3.5 meme mind you, but because it hits 99% GPU utilization. Shit, my 980 Ti can't max out Witcher 3 at 5760x1080 and steady 60 FPS for the same reason. Its more like 40-50, so I just installed graphics mods / tweaked settings past max and locked it to 30.4k is out of Sony's reach.
>>332692134Online store with games released exclusively on it.
>mfw I got a PS4 this yearA thousand years after my death and my rage will still be felt by the universe.
>>332692134it removed bakcwards compatability with the GBA and added region lockingOh and a shitty camera
>>332674361You better hope your 4K set is UHD compliant nigga
>>332692298such as? >>332692329sounds to me like old ds was better
>>332692298I think there was a grand total of a single game that required the DSI
>>332691963Nintendo is releasing NX, Sony is releasing PS4.5, and MS is releasing... what, exactly? It seems like we're getting a half gen from all companies, as MS seems to have no choice but to ape their japanese counterparts.
>>332660729It won't get DP but I guarantee HDMI 2.0All of these new console refreshes will be AMD Polaris-based. It has HEVC and HDMI 2.0 on-chip.
>>332692219>That all goes out the window with this.So what? Normies drop $700 on a new iPhone every single year.Why not have a premium and a standard model console with alternating yearly refreshes?Consolefags are dumb as shit, they'll eat it up.
>>332692386It was
>>332692386>>332692428https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DSiWare_games_and_applications
>>332692453>and MS is releasing... what, exactly?GFWL 2.0 W10 only.
>>332692219Hell, noone even cares that older iPhones run like shit when you finally agree to all the firmware upgrade nag screens. They just go buy a new one.When consolefags get their games slowing down to 10 FPS they'll gladly go to the Gamestop and drop $700 on the PS4 3.0+
>>332692453I remember reading an article long before the PS4.5 shenanigans started where MS were talking about incremental upgrades for XBone. Google it.
>>332661067No you need to sit 100" from the screen to see the distance you dip
>>332692564Jesus Christ look at all that shovel ware
>>332692584So they decided shooting themselves in the foot with the XBone wasn't enough, they now need a lobotomy? God damn that's impressive.
>>332692490>so whatIt's a negative thing and has no positives for the consumer, that's what. Did you have anything to say?>why not have thatBecause it's anti-consumer and removes any reason to buy a console.>>332692564I don't see the games.
>>332655181It just doesnt feel right. It's like I paid for a lesser version of the console and there absolutely WILL be games that will take full advantage of the 4.5Why would they do this? PS4 is dominating the market, why divide your fanbase?
>>332692219If I have to upgrade my console every now and then to ensure it runs as well as everyone elses and I won't lose due to shitty hardware, why would I ever get a PS4 and not a PC?Because you're a consolefag and the alternatives are Xbone and Wii U.If consolefags had enough independent thought in their bodies to jump to PC paid online would've done it already.Shit, millions of Xbones sold at $500 with mandatory Kinect.
>>332692453>>332692628Here you gohttp://www.polygon.com/2016/3/1/11121666/xbox-one-hardware-upgrades-phil-spencer-microsoftThere's literally no point in being a console gamer anymore. The average idiot can't build a PC though.
>>332655181>RAM size may be upgraded to 8.5GB for 4K rendering>1.3 times more powerful CPU>Price: Unknown>Reveal: E3 2016(not sure)>Won't replace ordinarily PS4>when delusional sonyggers' facetopkek...
>>332692719Well they are run by an Indian so are you surprised?
>>332692778Then you are blind and just baiting me at this point.
>>332692806>If I have to upgrade my console every now and then to ensure it runs as well as everyone elses and I won't lose due to shitty hardware, why would I ever get a PS4 and not a PC?You probably wouldn't, but people aren't psychic and no PS4 user thought sony would release a PS4.5 that they had to upgrade to to stay relevant so I don't get what you are saying.Xbone dropped kinect ages ago
>>332692789>being an early adopterif you didn't learn from the PS3 you might as well just throw your money into an incinerator, you have no common sense. Consoles are never worth purchasing until near the end of its lifecycle.
I dont own a 4k tv and probably wont anytime soon.My friend plays his PS4 on a 4k TV and he is under the impression that his TV up scales his framerate and resolution during gameplay lol
>>332692778>It's a negative thing and has no positives for the consumer, that's what. Did you have anything to say?So are consoles. That's literally the entire idea of a console. An environment where the user has no choice or ability to fuck around with stuff like multiplayer mods (extending shelf life of games), and the platform provider has total control to charge for basic shit PC gets for free.
>>332692386The DSi was only worth it for DSi ware games, but it had a pretty solid collection of games like Shantae (which was almost a system seller at the time), X-Scape, Blayzbloo, Bomberman Blitz, Chronos Twins, Dark Void Zero, Dragon Quest Wars, the G.G. series, Mario vs. Donkey Kong...I think it was a decent enough upgrade.
>>332692916I see lots of eshop titles. Mostly camera things and apps, or digital versions of old GB and NES games and shit.
>>332655868>>332656015>>332656096>B-BUT NINTENDO
>>332655868Because it's only acceptable when Nintendo does itAlso NX made the console gen shorter by 4 years again instead of the current six years.
>>332692980It seems your console hate boner is too massive to have an actual discussion on the anti-consumerism of this or why a consumer may not take this, but you go ahead and just keep forcing your idea you are an intelligent ubermensch and anyone who bought a console is a drooli ng retard.
>>332692251>this much tech illiteracyA 970 is only 2.0-2.5x as strong as a 7850.OP claims 2.2 times power powerful = 3.2 times as powefulThat would put the PS4k on par with a 980ti, which can easily run any current game at high settings 4k.
>>332692778>Because it's anti-consumer and removes any reason to buy a console.Consoles are anti-consumer.What the fuck do you think Xbox Live / PSN are?What do you think Microsoft's policy of not allowing free content in patches on 360 was?What do you think MS/Sony's policy of charging developers $50,000 to release patches was?What do you think Sony's policy of charging devs out the ass for hosting of patches that were above a certain download size (read: free DLC) was?MS/Sony don't give a shit about you, and they've realized that you people are too fucking braindead to move to PC regardless of how badly they abuse you, so now they're just not bothering with lube anymore.
>>332693120Selective memory, everyone thought it was a scummy move to have Xenoblade 3D only on N3DS.
>>332693057Well, that's funny, because there's not a single NES or GB port on that list, and all the applications are at the bottom of the list.Fuck off, retard.
>>332664067ikr... shhhh
>>332693148Explain to me how consoles and their removal of freedoms / charging for basic shit from devs and players benefit the games industry.
>>332656267The PS3 is still being supported, in some countries the PS2 is still being supported due to FIFA.
Looks like I'll be upgrading and selling my old PS4 to a friend.
>>332693293They pay for games that wouldn't ever been made like Bloodborne, Uncharted and Pokémon.
>>332693293Different anon here, a vast majority of PC plebs do the exact same shit as console kiddies, it's not like PC is a haven of open source freeware, especially with steam and its knockoffs being the most popular shit on the market.
>>332692948My point is that MS and Sony have finally realized that consolefags are basically the Apple fags of the gaming industry.They've realized that consolefags will accept literally any amount of abuse because PC intimidates them.MS only backed off always-on DRM and forced Kinect for The Bone because Sony countered their stance. If Sony threw in on DRM and something stupid to match Kinect, Microsoft would have staid the course despite the backlash because everyone would've still bought a PS4/Bone. The only difference would be that PS4 wouldn't have as big of a lead.
>>332693190bullshit on all counts senpaiAn original Titan is like 4 PS4s, and 970s edge out Titans.980 Ti can't do 4K easily on lots of current games at full settings.Go try with GTA V and shadows / AO maxed out.
This is the guy who leaked Dragons Dogma Online for PS4 isn't it. He claimed that Microsoft tried to secure it but Sony had already swooped in and allowed it for PC alongside PS4. Yeah he's leaked a lot more as well but my memory is not serving me well atm.
>>332693190>That would put the PS4k on par with a 980ti, which can easily run any current game at high settings 4k.I love it... when sonyggers being that overly delusional.
>>332693467FROM / Bamco had plenty of money to make Bloodborne
>>332658249
>>332693190Fucking kek.
>>332693491Literal meme games aren't popular anon, they just appear so because of streamers.
>>332687034>tfw Bloodborne isn't a spiritual successor to the Castlevania.
>>332692490Because it already exists, its called a PC and for a little more money its an infinitely superior and open gaming machine.But I bet that "slightly better fps" for extra hundreds of dollars sounds great to a chucklefuck like you.
>>332663339980ti fag here. 4K is really, really taxing, hardware-wise. (Probably even a tiny bit more if you add the downsampling process, I guess.) I can play TW3 Ultra + Hairworks + cfg/ini Tweaks at 1080p with constant 60 FPS, but going 4K would make me dip below 30 FPS for sure. Hell, I cannot play GTAV downsampled at 4K at more than 40 FPS, if I recall correctly. (Well, to be fair, I was still with MSAA 8X, which is useless when you're downsampling 4K but still)
>>332693902>*seriesFuck me
If this is real and lives up to expectations I'll be selling my PC. I'm not even memeing. I have several laptops that are adequate for web browsing, watching Chinese cartoons, or playing the odd emulated N64 game. PC gaming is nothing but console ports, and has been this way for a decade. If they're not even running at a higher framerate or with more graphical fidelity than the actual base console version, what is the fucking point?
>>332686016Your logic is fucking stupid, the 3DS was many times weaker for when it was released than the PS4.
>>332693921Good PCs aren't for stupid people, he was talking about the masses.
>>332693960But consoles have optimization.
>>332694070Well maybe the dumb masses will recognize when they are being gouged a new moneyhole on their asses when there isn't a sparkly phone and steve jobs included.
>>332693876>ASSFAGGOTS and F2PFPS games are not popular????
>>332694168Jobs died and Apple is fine, they do not learn.
SONY FUCKED EVERYONE!!!HOW DOES IT FEEL TO GET SCREWED PS4 OWNERS?!?LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!'
>>332694261He established the trend, apple couldn't do that now and Sony won't be able to if theres a shred of thought left within those stupid fucking peoples skulls.Apple can barely if at all keep it up.
>>332694181>implying COD is better than Blacklight
>>332680164>market shaping strategies>huge PR expenses Few months ago you guys parroted that Sony has no money to make such endeavors. Now you guys are being retarded and inconsistent with your claims
>>332693697>>332693818xbox360/ps3 came out in 2005/2006 and both had the hight end PC GPUs from 2005.Only reason the PS4/Xbone generation didn't is because of TDP restrictions. That's why Sony is doing a new console this year. 14nm removes the TDP restriction.
>>332694165I guess it's sweet sarcasm, but just in case it's not: Console don't have proper optimization anymore, toto. Most multiplat have massive frame drop. Hell, even exclusive have these problem.
PS4-32XJUST STICK IT IN YOUR PLAYSTATION
It's for 4K movies. That's it.Games will be designed for the weaker PS4.
>>332694478Thats why that can run at all, because they do have optimization to hardware.
>tfw i'm still paying for my PS4
>>332694621>if I just keep repeating it....
>>332694621>Games will be designed for the weaker PS4.
>>332694621HAHAHAAHAHAA
>>332694621Finally a sane person.
>>332655181IF THIS IS REAL I'M DONE WITH CONSOLES, POSSIBLY VIDEOGAMESIF YOU SUPPORT THIS YOU'RE A LITERAL C U C K, AND RETARDED TO BOOT
>>332694728>>332694781>>332694860I don't even have a PS4, so if I bought a PS4.5 and the original owners got fucked over, it wouldn't affect me. Still, it's going to be for movies and maybe that rubbish VR gimmick crap morons think will be good.
>>332695051>IF THIS IS REAL I'M DONE WITH CONSOLES, POSSIBLY VIDEOGAMESwhere will you go?
>>332662131there is people that still buying iPhone 4 and 5 senpai, capitalism oh!
>>332694445No its because they didnt want to do loss leader again.Sony was selling PS3s at a big loss and Microsoft was doing a small one BUT then got ass raped by RROD warranty claims.PS4 and Bone have both been sold at cost or at a profit since day one.>>332694168They won't. Paid online proved that, as did no mods for Oblivion / Fallout 3+NV / Skyrim and the absolute shitshows that were the PS3 versions of those games.
>>332695121/tv/
>>332694445>xbox360/ps3 came out in 2005/2006 and both had the hight end PC GPUs from 2005.Nope. Only Xbox360 did it for a shortest period. >Only reason the PS4/Xbone generation didn't is because of TDP restrictions. That's why Sony is doing a new console this year. 14nm removes the TDP restriction.Source? Otherwise, you are just one of them.
>>332695210lol, you're even worse than you are on /v/ than senpaienjoy i guess
>>332695121probably moeblob anime like all sonyggers
>>332695121My home board, which is about the only medium not ruined by normalfags, cucks, retards and whales yet.
>>332691963Are you retarded, MS is also planning on releasing a revision and Nintendo already has new console on the pipeline late this year and this just Sony reacting to them.
>>332695208This is quite bigger than that though, those work because "I own this system so I just have to buy everyhting available for it"this is literally "We know you own that system but we made a better version of it now"Its quite a bit more in your face with the abuseBut yeah, I don't think it impossible either, but maybe.
>>332655868I'm what you'd probably call a Nintendo fanboy and I absolutely did lose my shit, and still hate the idea of the new 3DS. It just sucks for early adopters, no matter who does it.
>tfw just bought a PS4I left vidya once, i would do it again. Fuck this hobby, only has brought me shame and a life of solitude anyway.>hurr you should have bought a Pii PooNah, i don't want shit kiddie games. I would go mustard, but i'm poor, that's why i bought the cheapest option with good new games. And now Sony betrays their customers. Fuck videogames. Fuck everything. Maybe i should start studying for real as i'm supposed to.
I'm gonna buy a PS4K at launch and use it to play Bloodbourne on a TV that only supports 720p.
>I-IT'S NOT REAL!these sonycucks are gonna get btfo'd so hardwhat are you fags gonna say when it happens?
So is this thing a new machine or an add-on for PS4? PS4 is not even 3 years old
>>332695246>xbox720Solid source you have here
>>332695246PS3 and Xbox360 had overheating issues on 100W GPUs.There is no way PS4 and Xbone could have fitted 2012/2013 high end GPUs, which were around 200W.
>>332695586Fuck Sony
>>332695463>Its quite a bit more in your face with the abuseRight, but my argument is that consolefags will deal with anything because they consider it "better" than PC
>>332695373doesn't matter if they're reacting, they're still buttfucking their own customers. they should have just stuck to it and released a ps5 after giving it a full five year cycle.and it's not like microsoft isn't a total dick for doing this, too. screaming b-but nintendo or microsoft isn't a valid defence (not like anyone cares about nintendo though)
>>332688597I did
>>332693643there is no benchmark in the universe in which a Titan is even 2.5x as fast as a 7850. It's closer to 2.2x
>>332695992I don't think anyone is stupid enough to believe consoles are better than PC, it's just consoles are cheaper and will run all games without spending more money on upgrades. But if this whole "come out with a new version every 2-3 years" becomes a trend then there is no reason to ever get a console again.
>>332693137NX? Where? Store link please.
>>332696136how is releasing a more powerful version of a console buttfucking their own customers?Games will run at one graphics setting on the PS4 and at another graphics setting on the PS4k. The PS4k owners get better graphics doesn't make the PS4 owners get worse graphcis or less games than they had before
>Another Ruggarell's milky tears threadkek
>>332696525>I don't think anyone is stupid enough to believe consoles are better than PCSonyggers>But if this whole "come out with a new version every 2-3 years" becomes a trend They'll run the same games. PS4 versions will just not look as good.