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Self/OpinionAll white people are racist (self.AsianMasculinity)

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Yes, all white people are racist.

When you say 'all white people' they rush to claim that is unfair because they are 'individuals;' but this sense of individualism in and of itself is a privilege. Individualism is a facet of privilege.

Folks get MAD when you say #AllWhitePeople, because we've been trained to look at white people as 'individuals' even though they are conditioned to look at us as a group. white people are raised to believe they are unique, special snowflakes- individuals capable of achieving whatever they set their minds to- while Black / Asian people are raised to believe we are part of a monolithic group; one that at any minute can be seen as a threat so we must act accordingly so as to make everyone around us "comfortable".

We do not have the privilege of individualism. So spare me your whining about "not all white people".

Yes, all white people.

All white people are products of a racist, white supremacist system, and therefore are indoctrinated with racist, white supremacist teachings. Can racism be unlearned? I think, yes. *But most white people DON'T unlearn it, because they can't even admit they have a problem. *

You can't opt out of the system. You can't opt out of your privilege. You can't opt out of its benefits if you're born with white skin.

And it's funny how we understand this when we're talking about other forms of pathology. We understand that people growing up in abusive households have higher chances of being impacted by abuse. We understand that soldiers coming back from violent war zones have higher chances of being affected by post traumatic stress disorder. We understand that people in certain environments will be psychologically impacted in certain ways.

But start talking about learned racism and, all of a sudden, everything we know about the human brain goes out the window because every white person is a unique special snowflake (with the magical mutant x abilities to not be influenced by their surroundings and the constant barrage of racist, white supremacist propaganda).

Dear white people: You are not omega level mutants able to control things with your mind. You are not Jean Gray. You have been born into this racist, sexist, capitalist, white supremacist society and from birth you have been imbued with its beliefs.

(And white people love bringing up their parents and their families and how every white parent had a perfect non-racist upbringing. Yeah, okay. Even if I believed that, which I don't, you still watch TV and movies, you still read books, you still go to school, you still have to participate in society outside of the home and white supremacist ideology is EVERYWHERE.)

The most you can do is understand your privilege, use it to spread awareness, and WORK to unlearn your destructive, parasitic behavior. That's how you white ally. And if you are not working to unlearn racism don't speak to me.

Don't comment by crying white tears about 'I agree but not all white people...,' etc.

The fact that you even feel bold enough to say that to me is an example of your privilege. If you're feeling so bold go address your fellow racist whites, not me. Why are you comfortable telling me #notallwhites but you're not comfortable telling your fellow white people? Because deep down, even if it's just on a subconscious level, you have a superiority complex. You think you are better than me and you have a right to come in my space and try to 'correct' me. This is a racist micro aggression and it's a form of white supremacy.

The ONLY thing you should be saying to be is that you recognize that you were born into a racist, white supremacist system that imbued you with racist ideals from birth. That you recognize your racism, privilege, and inherent bias and are actively working to unlearn it. If you are not saying that then you are not saying anything, and you don't have permission to speak to me.

All credit goes to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zPtpRrpU-g

Slightly edited.

Sidenote: To all the whites who are stumbling across this post thinking isn't this racist? Answer is nope, because : http://www.dailydot.com/opinion/reverse-racism-doesnt-exist/

Educate yourself before commenting

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Watch out, downvotes from /r/jokes are coming since they can't take the truth.

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Lol, /r/ccj2 got so butthurt over this, they even re-posted this in their shit sub :D

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Some white kid reposted this piece of truth on /r/cringe , incoming trolls ahead!

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Aussie and Kiwi trash coming to troll

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/r/european Eurotrash who want to make Europe solely for whites are now coming over to brigade lol xD

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[–]garlicextract 44ポイント45ポイント  (10子コメント)

Folks get MAD when you say #AllWhitePeople, because we've been trained to look at white people as 'individuals' even tho they are conditioned to look at us as a group. white people are raised to believe they are unique, special snowflakes- individuals capable of achieving whatever they set their minds to-

Yup, that's it right there. Blacks are blacks, asians are asians, latinos are latinos, but each white person is a unique individual.

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    [–]pakreloaded 14ポイント15ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Thanks for the post and video link. I'll be honest, my knee-jerk reaction was to disagree, I don't think that's a statement that I could come to a conclusion about within an hour or even days. I hope more people of all races see it and are provoked to think about it.

    I agree we live in a white supremacist society, however I'd argue that most of the white population is ignorant to that. Until your average public educated white person looks beyond what society presents them it can be difficult to understand. I took me a long time to see how deeply evil American society as controlled by white people is (towards everybody, but especially towards nonwhites) and I'm discovering more and more all the time.

    So most of the white population, unaware or willfully ignorant of this, makes racist decisions all the time because they are only presented with racist choices that don't appear as such. Racist choices being, for example, which of the hateful stereotyping Hollywood films should we see tonight? Should I upload my #allwhitepeople video to this video hosting site that promotes and profits from said movies? Which racist joke should I say about a group that even TV tells me we can make fun of? Should I buy a product which was made with technology by a company which only employs asians at the engineering level but keeps them from reaching upper management? Should I pay my taxes to support a police department where white supremacists shoot unarmed black people?

    Wouldn't you think that, if white people are racist by supporting this society, nonwhites could also be racist to themselves by supporting it? The white supremacist society is so strong and rooted so deep in our psyche (like you said, “you” can't opt out, you being everyone, not just whites) that it can even cause people to lose love for themselves just because they aren't white.

    Honestly, I don't see nonwhite people who have been conditioned to worship white as ideal and their own race as inferior as being racist to themselves personally, yet the argument changes, and rightfully so, when referring to white people who are unknowingly taking part in the white supremacist society, because it doesn't have the same repercussions for us and in many ways benefits us (sometimes in ways so subtle I can't even notice without thinking twice, yet it's painfully obvious to someone who isn't white) giving whites that “privilege.”

    Would I call the people who are bestowed that privilege “racist?” I don't know. Like the many Germans who were forced to fight for Nazi Germany yet despised what it stood for, white people (and many non whites as you already know) are being herded like cattle to the whims of the racist white criminals who perpetuate this disgusting society. Which is frightening, because whether or not those young Germans believed in the ideology or not, when they were told to kill, they killed. It didn't really matter if they themselves realized their actions were based on hateful discrimination or not.

    I think right now we are at a point where it still very much matters if whites recognize the racist stranglehold our society has over everyone, because we can still change it's direction.

    Yes, most white people don't unlearn it, but some do, and hopefully even more will in the future. Some of the racist beliefs of the baby boomer generation send chills down the spines of the younger generations who can't imagine thinking like that. We're not complacent- we're ignorant to the solutions it will take to solve these problems (most white solutions to equality are horrible and have brought us to where we are today). Do you really want a white person to step up and tell other whites what non whites need? I could never spearhead major action, but only support it wholeheartedly.

    There's a long way to go, but I have a feeling that saying “all whites” is closing the possibility that a better future with whites can be accomplished. If that's the case, then unfortunately for all humankind all whites and non whites will have to literally fight each other until the other is subjugated completely for superiority, with no compromise. Is that where you want to go?

    Yet, historically working “with whites” means on white people's terms, so I can see how that looks like a fool's errand and we are back to where we started. I'll just end by saying that my eyes and ears and heart are open and, dichotomy be damned, even with my limited power I'll be with you, human.

    [–]ChinaGoat_Porker 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    My knee jerk reaction would also be to disagree, but then I remember that I read reddit and just how much racist BS I have to sort through/downvote on a daily basis.

    [–]AsianAmericanGuy 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Preach brother. Despite a lot of shit I say, I love White people, even the guys. Just stop being such fucking cockblocks :P

    [–]reelsies 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

    This is why I don't engage white people, no matter how closely I know them, in these types of discussions. It's almost never possible for them to approach the discussion from a neutral, logically consistent angle.

    It's not possible because the discussion necessitates placing criticism on their own identity group, which is always a social faux pas. People like complaining about others committing injustice, not themselves. People also like imagining themselves as victims, regardless of whether it's true, because it makes them feel better about their own achievements. Being a "victim" means your accomplishments were in spite of your situation in life, and not because of them; it places blame elsewhere.

    This is why many whites feel that the world is "against them", even though it's the furthest thing from the truth. It's a defensive mechanism, which is crucial in a time where the balance of power is slowly shifting away from the west. In a way, the feeling is somewhat legitimate: white people are undoubtedly more discriminated against now than they were 30 years ago (because the world is more equal now), which would feel like a drop in quality of life for the average white person. Of course, they still have it better than everyone else, but a combination of internalized white supremacy, ingroup self interest, and plain ignorance of other groups blinds them from this fact.

    The takeaway that I want every man on this sub to internalize, is that there are no actual rules anywhere, and nothing is objectively bad. Things are only objectively bad from certain viewpoints. The only logically consistent thing to do is the thing that advantages yourself, or your group. Anything else is deplorable.

    You shouldn't expect other people to be logical in understanding your plight, because people are biased and partial with their empathy, based on both genetic (the gender difference in empathy) and environmentally conditioned factors. Trying to spread awareness of Asian problems in the west is like trying to convert meat eaters by convincing them that cows are the same as dogs. It doesn't matter what the truth actually is, they've been permanently conditioned to think of cows as dumb food animals, and dogs as keen social pets. The discovery of the Americas is celebrated because it was a goldmine for western civilization, regardless of the fact that it killed a billion American Natives. Natives aren't part of western civilization, so it doesn't matter.

    Only you can change yourself, and by extension, only we can change ourselves.

    [–]Igneous88 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    We've always been taught that human conflict occurs because of differences. I'm of the belief that these conflicts occur precisely because of our fundamental similarities, in that we all want the same things, the same resources (food, water, sex, comfort, wealth, quality of life, etc.), and there is a finite amount of resources. Whatever differences between the groups (appearance, style, culture, ideology), when compared to the fundamental similarity of needs, are in fact superficial. These differences are artificially magnified and/or constructed to backwards rationalize why the conflict occurred in the first place (particularly by initiators of said conflict).

    This is why I always chuckle at mindless catch-phrases such as "we civilized them," "spreading democracy and freedom," "to liberate," or my personal favorite: "they hate our freedoms". Meaningless drivel such as those are the equivalent of pacifiers for the lowest common denominator to suck on and follow the program, when those at the top know what's really up. With this in mind, it's as you said. It is time to make our own rules, the ones that work for us.

    [–]reelsies 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    True enough, but conflict also arises because of differences. To be precise, it's the quality of being fundamentally similar, and having a certain threshold of difference, that causes conflict. Also important is the ability to consciously recognize an affront to your person, which is what escalates conflicts.

    If humans gradually encroach on bear territories, bears don't consciously recognize this and start fighting for bearland, because they have no conscious recognition (If they were a different group of humans, they would, and the conflict would escalate). Humans also don't spread propaganda against bears, or develop a superiority complex toward them, because bears are too fundamentally different to be threatened by.

    [–]PhilippinesSPEsca 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

    So what should a white person do then to not be racist? Are they morally obligated to work towards racial equality? I agree with pretty much everything you say, but I don't know what the average white person can do to be a better person.

    [–]Chinaldw1988 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

    The posts here by Asians defending white people as individuals only make OP's point stronger. I've been cool with whites since I was a young, but I make no effort these days to mingle with any of them. I know all too well now

    [–]account_rp 8ポイント9ポイント  (8子コメント)

    White people also default towards treating asians like shit. It's a disgusting situation when that has to be overcome to be treated with respect and as a true equal.

    [–]Myanmarangry_burmese 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Can confirm. They nitpick on words and have a condescending attitude. They seem friendly, but they do so to make themselves feel like the ones running the show.

    [–]5leepingDog 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I work at a company with a lot of Asian engineers, this is absolutely true. The white engineers whether the consciously know it or not do this micro-aggression shit against the Asian engineers so they look like they are running the show/look more competent.

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      [–]exFAL 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      This does make alot of sense.

      All white are racist, in varying degrees. It based on actions, history, and belief. Not the most politically correct to say but based on reality not a sweet fantasy you tell school children.

      There is an institution of racist that's embedded in government, business, law enforcement, media, white minds. The foundation of it is the race classification not even based on science but artificial racism favoring a particular group in the new world. Whites live on this institutional foundation or platform.

      Haven't you ever wonder why the US never had a 2 race system of non-white and white? Because it would a more even playing field, equal treatment, and less exploitative relationship. This reason behind the current anti-China and past Anti-Japan sentiment. US doesn't want a counter balance against it exploitative practices and real competition. It no surprise Asian males have so poor portrayed in US society.

      Why are "legal" drug, tobacco, alcohol run by majority white vs. "illegal" minority operations?

      OP mentions white believing they are chosen the ones with extra good special individual powers. This is spot on. US coins themselves as a superpower that gets beaten by NVA VC/Taliban and Jesus is painted white. Almost every idol is white casted in white gold marble.

      [–]AsianAmericanGuy 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Everywhere in this country, white nationalism is there poisoning the well and inciting violence and fear.

      http://ualrpublicradio.org/post/arkansas-capitol-site-dueling-syrian-refugee-rallies#stream/0

      [–]Myanmarangry_burmese 7ポイント8ポイント  (6子コメント)

      Hahah, just a few weeks ago a white prof and classmates commented that "I spoke well for an international student."

      I squinted my eyes and told them I wasn't sure how to respond to that. Prof stammered and choked on his own words, the other two not being sure what to say.

      Boom, boom, boom, white folks.

      [–]Brahmin123 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

      oh lawl this thread rustled so many jim jams lol

      [–]nightfall117[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I'm so popular the expats on ccj2 and china have started sending hate PMS lol

      [–]ultimatereal12345trf 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      fucking quality post bro!

      [–]AsianAmericanGuy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anu-joshi/kris-kobach-white-nationalist-event_b_8548304.html

      Relevant

      [–]gallbleeder 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      God bless you.

      [–]AsianAmericanGuy -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Bravo.

      [–]Igneous88 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Right on the money.

      [–]Beak21 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

      True

      [–]PizzaBeersTelly 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Can I just say that it makes me really excited to read this type of post on reddit! Yes I agree, all white people are racist, but this isn't to say that I hate them or that they inherently evil or lazy. No, not at all.

      Many are unaware, and many are aware and are (I guess arguably, understandably) scared to lose that privilege. It's really silly to make this comparison but yeah, its like the fucking Matrix. Many are asleep to racial inequality and those that are awake would rather be asleep and continue to reap the benefits.

      I understand that "dragging culture" has alienated "allies", but I also find that it's more often used by those getting called out as a way to silence POC, so it's hard to find a good balance.

      Besides, black folks have been real patient so far and racism is still alive and well so Idk how far that "being rude alienates allies" argument is going to hold up. Being polite hasn't helped much so far ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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      [–]nightfall117[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Many are unaware, and many are aware and are (I guess arguably, understandably) scared to lose that privilege.

      exactly!

      [–]carlStrauss 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I'm all for combating racism, but what are some examples of things I can do as a "passing" white male to help combat it? I own a business, and I have black, white, asian, latino, disabled, young, and old clients that I love and treat respectfully. I try to do anything I can to be a more inclusive person. I definitely benefit from my whiteness in my field, but how can I combat this?

      [–]2earsOnemouth 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Haven't even clicked the link and I know who wrote that. Seren is my heart :-). She is literally the only person who comes close to expressing what I feel. I. Love. Her. Glad to see she has made her way here

      [–]miraoister 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

      i agree with this and I am a white person!

      [–]AsianAmericanGuy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2015/12/11/darrow-white-people-need-ethnic-studies/

      My whole life, I have been allowed a way of “knowing”.

      White people like me are permitted to exist with this way of knowing, i.e. of occupying the world unknowing of not knowing about the importance of race. I never had to be conscious of just how ignorant I was of the importance of race. I never had to consider the extent to which my agency, my power, my way of living and interacting in this world has been bound to my identity.

      This way of “knowing” is what philosopher Charles Mills calls “white ignorance.” To be clear, one need not be white to be ignorant of the complexity of race, but white people are particularly susceptible to white ignorance because we benefit most from misunderstanding the way power and oppression work. We don’t have to be “woke” to the systems that reproduce racial inequality because as long as we live with the status quo, we will benefit from the system without having to consider our complicity in its propagation.

      This is why I always laugh at White opinions about racism and the defensive whitesplaining that ensues when a minority attempts to correct their ignorant and prejudiced beliefs. Solid thought piece that accurately sums up a lot of core beliefs in this sub, check it out :)

      [–]Leetenghui 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Have a look at 'Arexis Fongman'

      It demonstrates how accepted it is to make racial slurs. The most interesting thing about this shitstorm was how it lured out people you would consider perfectly normal her friends and family to join in the cheering of it.

      [–]magicalbird -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Everyone is racist. Saying anything else is politically correct stuff to get on with our daily lives.

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