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[–]Landlubber77 3720ポイント3721ポイント  (729子コメント)

Not spend a single second thinking about what other countries think about us. The disparity between the amount of time people spend thinking about how much they hate/love Americans and the amount of time Americans spend thinking about them would make you audibly giggle.

I had a friend tell me that Canadian men hate American men and it occurred to me that I hadn't spent a single second in 32 years of life thinking about Canadian men in any way shape or form.

[–]Oax_Mike 965ポイント966ポイント  (104子コメント)

Canadian men do not hate American men. That's ridiculous nonsense.

[–]czhunc 474ポイント475ポイント  (68子コメント)

Whoa, calm down compadre. We're all friends here.

[–]Agonze 306ポイント307ポイント  (58子コメント)

I'm not your compadre, buddy

[–]arolloftide 172ポイント173ポイント  (36子コメント)

I'm not your buddy, Amigo

[–]Agonze 141ポイント142ポイント  (34子コメント)

I'm not your amigo, ally

[–]Riobhain 129ポイント130ポイント  (31子コメント)

I'm not your ally, acquaintance.

[–]pyromidion 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's not your buddy, guy!

[–]DarkPieOverlord 17ポイント18ポイント  (4子コメント)

What's this you've said to me, my good friend? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in conflict resolution, and I've been involved in numerous friendly discussions, and I have over 300 confirmed friends. I am trained in polite discussions and I'm the top mediator in the entire neighborhood. You are worth more to me than just another target. I hope we will come to have a friendship never before seen on this Earth. Don't you think you might be hurting someone's feelings saying that over the internet? Think about it, my friend. As we speak I am contacting my good friends across the USA and your P.O. box is being traced right now so you better prepare for the greeting cards, friend. The greeting cards that help you with your hate. You should look forward to it, friend. I can be anywhere, anytime for you, and I can calm you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my chess set. Not only am I extensively trained in conflict resolution, but I have access to the entire group of my friends and I will use them to their full extent to start our new friendship. If only you could have known what kindness and love your little comment was about to bring you, maybe you would have reached out sooner. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now we get to start a new friendship, you unique person. I will give you gifts and you might have a hard time keeping up. You're finally living, friend.

[–]Tannysack 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well how about I come over there and stomp your goofy ass!

[–]rattrayc 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

The only person I've encountered in my travels who was outwardly hostile to me because I was American was a Canadian...in Dublin of all places. I've been to Canada multiple times without issue, though.

[–]little_gamie 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Almost every Canadian i've met has been super jolly to be around. I actually have a lot of friends who are in Canada to.

[–]canuckpuckbeaut 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

I am a Canadian man and love Americans.

[–]little_gamie 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I am an American man and love Canadians. We should get a beer.

[–]canuckpuckbeaut 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'll share a Moosehead or Alexander Keith's with you bud :)

[–]ChornWork2 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's a lingering little brother / inferiority complex... for example see the old Molson I Am Canadian ad campaign.

Hate is certainly overstating it.

[–]john6644 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol Canadians can't hate

[–]just_zhis_guy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That is ridiculous... Man, I fuckin' hate that guy.

[–]Kaennar 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

No Canadian men hate those French imposters of men.

This could be an actual quote from my grandfather I swear.

[–]Loken89 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're right. Canadian men and women hate American men and women. My fiance lives on PEI and I'm moving there soon, every time I visit someone tries to make some comment about how stupid I must be because I'm American, or that I'm a huge racist/asshole/misogynist/etc. It gets old.

[–]dustinrag 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can confirm. It's interesting how, "Me and one other guy I know hate American men", suddenly becomes all of Canada.

[–]McPorkums 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, it's only the Queerbecois... But they hate everyone that isn't inside their wall.

[–]Par208 1695ポイント1696ポイント  (133子コメント)

Yeah as a Frenchman you can blame the media for that. I was that way to for a while until I did a semester abroad in the us and you guys don't represent your horrible government at all. Everyone there is just like everyone else only more friendly. My hate is reserved toward your government not Americans or Americas values.

[–]MannPayorthIngWynn 2330ポイント2331ポイント  (88子コメント)

Yeah, we don't like our government either.

[–]landofschaff 1086ポイント1087ポイント  (49子コメント)

I don't even think the government like the government

[–]Bamboozle_ 200ポイント201ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is pretty clear. Have you ever seen the way our politicians talk about one another?

[–]KruskDaMangled 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Especially recently. They might as well stick them in a cage with knives and let them have it out like that. It would be less drawn out and not necessarily a whole lot more hateful.

[–]aeyuth 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

"You know what they say about people with small hands.."

[–]Socrates_Burrito 611ポイント612ポイント  (28子コメント)

I don't even think Barack likes Michelle

[–]Smatter_Witchoo 326ポイント327ポイント  (6子コメント)

He probably gets tired of losing arm wrestling matches against her.

[–]A_HumblePotato 77ポイント78ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well let's not get hasty here

[–]ProbablyABadDecision 393ポイント394ポイント  (12子コメント)

Of course not they're married!

[–]NapalmRDT 31ポイント32ポイント  (1子コメント)

Middle-aged male detected

[–]DaSaw 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I remember encountering this as a young man. Older men congratulating me on not being married. I was quite perplexed. Then I got married, got divorced, had enough bad experiences with people... and yeah, now I get it, and remain happily unmarried.

[–]MasterJax 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

So they like hate each other together?

[–]nowshowjj 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's nice when couples have things in common.

[–]BeadleBelfry 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just because you're in a soulless mariage doesn't mean everybody else is too, Greg.

[–]goblue142 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Get his ass beat if he ever said it out loud though... she looks really mean sometimes.

[–]Malaix 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

usually half our government hates the other. This year those two halves got split into two more subgroups who hate each other as well as hating the other guys.

[–]diegojones4 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

Is there a country that likes their government?

[–]IuliiaRide 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

i have never heard that Norwegians said something bad about theirs

[–]repsforjose 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

North Korea?

[–]DaSaw 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are now a moderator at r/pyongyang.

[–]twenny1 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's because the ones who think the North Korean government is bad are dead or in prison camps.

[–]Angrant96 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pretty sure Bhutan is chill.

[–]JCoop8 160ポイント161ポイント  (17子コメント)

This is one thing all conservatives and liberals alike can agree with, the majority of people in office are not representative of the general population.

[–]fish60 13ポイント14ポイント  (9子コメント)

Exactly, the average net worth of a US senator is 10 millions dollars (and Bernie Sanders drags it down a lot with his 300,000 dollar net worth). Whose interests do you thing they are representing?

[–]Amorougen 10ポイント11ポイント  (6子コメント)

Then why do we vote them in again, time after time at about an 80% clip? As Paul Newman said: "If you're playing a poker game and you look around the table and and can't tell who the sucker is, it's you."

[–]Gyvon 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Because MY Rep isn't the problem, it's all those other assholes in Congress.

[–]xelle24 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, for one thing, our voting system is completely broken. Gerrymandering, fundraising, lobbying, even the basic act of voting (look at what just happened in the Arizona primaries), and other factors have twisted our political system so that it's completely ineffective.

[–]fidgetsatbonfire 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because no one votes in primaries except party hardliners.

[–]Tier_1_Masturbator 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

How does someone who has had a 6 figure job for decades only have a 300k net worth???

I can understand not wanting to live in a million dollar home or having 5 Ferraris, but to not own land or have close to a million in the bank or stocks seems strange to me, for someone making $174,000 a year.

[–]NotNickCannon 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

After a quick google search, it's because the majority of his family's assets are in his wife's name. According to this Forbe's article his senate salary was $174,000 per year, his mutual funds and retirement accounts add up to roughly a $436,000 net worth, and most of their assets are in his wife's name, including a condo in D.C. (where the median home price is $540,000) and rental property in Vermont. What a shocker, Reddit's hero is a politician who knows how to play the game!

[–]VillageIdiot34 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

they represent the banking cartel know as the federal reserve

[–]dirtyjew123 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

Hating on the government is a great American pastime and brings us all closer together

[–]goug 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Man, if you gave a shit about other countries, you'd know the rest of the world hates their government too. And yours.

[–]dirtyjew123 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Why should I give a shit about other countries governments when they have almost zero impact on my day to day life and very little impact on the going ons on my country?

[–]00Chubby 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Given that the country was founded on the premise of "Fuck the government" I'd say that makes sense.

[–]Elementium 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Im not sure anyone anywhere really likes their government.

[–]IndiaMars 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

you guys don't represent your horrible government at all.

The French government does the exact same shit as the American government. Wars to protect economic interests, check. Supporting friendly dictators, check. Human rights abuses abroad, it was the French who used it extensively in Algeria.

[–]gosu4you 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

As an American living in Germany I would just like to say thank you for this. So many people hate on us like we are responsible for foreign policy or something...I'm just a regular dude trying to live my life.

[–]Terron1965 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Now that i think about it I don't think frenchmen represent their horrible government either.

[–]Clowdy1 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Honestly, there's really nothing unique that makes our government worse than yours, it's just that America (in general) tends to be more conservative than other developed countries. If you don't hold those values that's completely fine, a lot of Americans (self included) don't hold those values. Just as long as you don't let ideological differences color your views on people personally.

But I'm pretty positive that if you took a look at some of the more liberal state governments, say California or Hawaii or something, you wouldn't have any problem with them.

[–]shakethetroubles 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

The media is a powerful thing. Constantly portray G.W. Bush as a fool, the world hates him, portray Obama as a messiah despite having depressingly similar record and policies to G.W. and Europeans think he's a cool guy.

[–]I_LOVE_PAINAL 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

we're chill, bro. Europeans just need to meet us

[–]Sletts 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Our government is a wacky piece of shit but I love my people. Thank you Frenchman. We love you too!

[–]Mackin-N-Cheese 90ポイント91ポイント  (13子コメント)

I think part of that comes from being a part of such a big country with only two neighbors. That's changing as the world becomes more connected through technology, but geographically the US is rather separate from the rest of the world.

[–]PabstBlueRegalia 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

Just got back from the UK and I'm absolutely convinced this is a big part of our attitude. It's similar over there with some of the rhetoric towards the refugee crisis and the general attitude toward Europe.

Being geographically separate has real cultural effects.

[–]jaggoffsmirnoff 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, imagine president trump having to build and Invoice 5 walls.

[–]OneMoreMan 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Speak for yourself. Have a look at us here in Australia with no neighbours. That might also be changing through technology, but technology costs us a fortune here. "Australia Tax"

[–]Kloepta 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I would suggest a large part of it would or could be seen as arrogance on the US' behalf. "Why do I need to think about some freedom hating, terrorist loving, pinko, commie socialists in Europe? I'm from the greatest country in the world! WOOOOOOO freedom sound of M16 fire into the air"

I' know a lot of Americans personally and although my example is ludicrous there's just this ingrained thing within a lot of (possibly shitty) Americans that has been implanted from birth that 'we're #1', and hence why think about or consider anyone else. My mates wife is from the US and in the same sentence talked about her 56 hour labour and after-birth care provided free at an Australian hospital, her free university degree (she intended to skip out on her HECS debt), the free family tax benefit provided to take care of her child, then turned around and said the country sucked, we didn't have shops open late enough for her liking and couldn't wait to move to San Francisco (even I realise how ludicrous that statement is from a lower-middle class woman). She just cant let go of that ingrained sense of superiority.

Although I freely admit the other parties usually have an inferiority complex. Australia/UK/Canada with the US, New Zealand with Australia, Scotland/Wales with the UK/England etc. Our news is always flooded with whats happening in the Presidential race, what foreign policy thing the US been up to this week etc.

[–]SandraTempleton 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Please don't judge 318 million of us by the attitude of 1.

[–]LegacyLemur 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Actually my explanation why most Americans only know one language as opposed to Europeans. We have two neighbors, and one of them speaks English. Makes sense why learning another language is not really a necessity

[–]johnlikestoswim 35ポイント36ポイント  (0子コメント)

Like that scene in Mad Men when Don Draper says "I don't think about you at all."

http://youtu.be/LlOSdRMSG_k

[–]SexualMaltedBarley 51ポイント52ポイント  (16子コメント)

Oh my fucking god. I had no idea until I subscribed to /r/europe.

It's ridiculous. Any chance whatsoever they (and it's a minority of them there, to be fair, not even a majority let alone all of them) see to bring up America in a negative way, that is so that they can compare themselves (usually just as the ambiguous "Europe") to the U.S. in a favorable way, they jump all over that shit.

Anything whatsoever about guns, violent crime, health care, media ("So glad our media isn't as sensationalist as American media DERPA DERP!"), military, intelligence agencies, privacy, government function/corruption, lobbying, trains, subways, public transport in general, cars, food, fucking anything and everything that they can possibly twist around in their insecure little minds to something that somehow makes "them" better than the Americans, they will fucking do it.

Like I said, it's a minority, but it's a decent sized and loud minority.

Almost like clockwork, about once or twice a week they'll have a thread that's almost entirely an anti-American circlejerk, that is the submitted topic will be easy enough to use for this purpose that this particular group all get drawn to it and just take over. Common ones are anything about gun control or health care - those two fuckers are sure-fire winners every single time.

[–]The_Magic 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

It really bugged me when the Europeans discovered the Higgs Boson particle they were all "Rah Rah, Europe leads the way". But when the U.S. landed curiosity on Mars they were like "No, this wasn't an American achievement, this was a HUMAN achievement". Fuck you world, that was done by Americans and people paid by Americans.

[–]spacelordmofo 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

A fun drinking game:

Go to /r/europe, click on the 'New' posts. Take a drink every time the first comment on a thread brings up America in a negative way, even when the thread's topic has nothing to do with America.

[–]faithle55 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It may be that you are underestimating the impact of American exceptionalism over the last century or so....

[–]akai_ferret 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wait until you discover /r/ShitAmericansSay.

[–]SexualMaltedBarley 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh I've seen it, it's partly trolls and partly the sort of people I was talking about.

[–]Zorthianator 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

That minority also loves to talk shit about other European countries. Switzerland is also bashed quite a lot in /r/Europe since we are not in the European Union and we have our own interests.

This makes those autists foam with rage out of their mouths whenever anything remotely related to Switzerland does something. Shit, I clearly remember the shitstorm on /r/Europe because Switzerland sold some fucking military tarps to Russia during that time when Russia was hated due to Crimea!

[–]Spy_Guy 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair, I'm Swedish and think America's gun laws are better than ours. Nothing quite like going out back with a black powder revolver and perforating a plank.

But we can't have that here. : (

[–]SuicideNote 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh god it's funny when ever I'm drunk in Europe people think I'm binge drinking like a stupid American. Incorrect, I'm binge drinking like a Dane. Skål!

[–]SexualMaltedBarley 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also, isn't it the brits that are really known for their binge drinking?

Americans do it, but we're nowhere near the worst.

[–]littleski5 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair I'm American and also think that America's health and gun laws have many more negative impacts than Europe's.

[–]_remedy 31ポイント32ポイント  (3子コメント)

Sometimes I forget there's a whole country up there!

[–]sonofsmog 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

America's hat is a country? Well shit...

[–]SchwuleMaedchen 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's just like a big state in the north that speaks French in some parts. That's kind of how I view it.

[–]baube19 109ポイント110ポイント  (22子コメント)

as a Canadian Men I would like to apologize for your inconvininence. We will try to stay as discrete as possible.

[–]abstractwhiz 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

We will try to stay as discrete as possible.

They hate you because you're so continuous?

[–]ColonelSanders_1930 507ポイント508ポイント  (231子コメント)

It's ridiculous how serious non-americans on reddit take American politics

[–]stuckwithculchies 217ポイント218ポイント  (6子コメント)

American politics affects a lot more than just America

[–]Askduds 746ポイント747ポイント  (134子コメント)

Is because the choices Americans make have an almost unique ability to fuck all of us over especially when our leaders will gleefully enjoy joining middle eastern invasion of the week.

[–]SecretScotsman 445ポイント446ポイント  (38子コメント)

That sounds like it's your leaders you have the actual problem with.

[–]NinjaDude5186 28ポイント29ポイント  (2子コメント)

Nah, allies have to join offensive wars if called or they'll get -25 prestige.

[–]MightierThanThou 67ポイント68ポイント  (27子コメント)

Nah, why should non-Americans, especially those on reddit, exercise any sort of criticism of their nations and devote even a fraction of their efforts to honestly assessing their own negative traits when they can just devote all their effort to fiendishly focusing on and bashing the US all the time?

Part of the reason non-Americans are so obsessed with US politics is because it allows them to pleasantly avoid acknowledging their own problems and also cope with a deep-seated insecurity about how they'd actually appear to stack up to the US if their eyes and ears weren't filled with unrealistically negative propaganda about the US. That's by design, that's how their governments and their media keep them distracted: focus on bashing Americans first and foremost.

[–]bhullj11 45ポイント46ポイント  (7子コメント)

Every non-American considers himself an expert on American politics but if an American tries to express an opinion on another country's policies then he's dismissed as just another "ignorant/arrogant American."

[–]neverbuythesun 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

In fairness we do have American news and politics forced on us where the reverse doesn't seem to be true, so while I'm not defending these people it does make sense that people consider themselves to know more than they do about US politics.

[–]TheInternetHivemind 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

the reverse doesn't seem to be true

NPR has the canadian news and the 5 straight hours of the BBC World service every night (save weekends).

We have it, it's just that most people don't care. Honestly, most of the stuff going on outside of the country doesn't impact us.

[–]Jarmatus 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Every non-American considers himself an expert on American politics but if an American tries to express an opinion on another country's policies then he's dismissed as just another "ignorant/arrogant American."

Most internet-literate non-American Westerners know as much about American politics as the average American. We are constantly served American content through ads, mis-targeted mass emails, forced marketing and charity spam, Facebook Recommended Stories, domestic media coverage of American affairs ... The list goes on.

This is not something the average American takes into account because, quite frankly, the average American has little reason to sign up to a, say, Australia-specific website. Your average internet-literate American does not encounter a situation where content that's not relevant to their culture is the primary content of their news feed. Everyone else does.

Americans, meanwhile - when, say, there's a Liberal Party leadership spill, non-Americans find themselves repeatedly explaining their country's political system. Non-Americans pick up information about America by osmosis; the reverse doesn't happen, and, quite frankly, because the average American intervening in a non-American discussion has picked up less information than the other way around, Americans look arrogant/ignorant a higher percentage of the time.

Is this one-way flow because America is a superpower and the military and cultural linchpin of the west? Of course it is! I don't deny that. But to act as if the average American knows, or even has the opportunity to know, as much about a foreign country as foreigners know about America, is just not reflective of reality.

[–]Drgntrnr 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ironically when non Americans try shutting down like that, it makes me want to irrationally conform to that stereotype and bring up WW2 or our military or something, even though it doesn't even make sense or apply at all most of the time.

Every American has a bit of 'Murica in them one way or another, they just have a different threshold for its unleashing.

[–]Jarmatus 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Every non-American considers himself an expert on American politics but if an American tries to express an opinion on another country's policies then he's dismissed as just another "ignorant/arrogant American."

Most internet-literate non-American Westerners know as much about American politics as the average American. We are constantly served American content through ads, mis-targeted mass emails, forced marketing and charity spam, Facebook Recommended Stories, domestic media coverage of American affairs ... The list goes on.

This is not something the average American takes into account because, quite frankly, the average American has little reason to sign up to a, say, Australia-specific website. Your average internet-literate American does not encounter a situation where content that's not relevant to their culture is the primary content of their news feed. Everyone else does.

Americans, meanwhile - when, say, there's a Liberal Party leadership spill, non-Americans find themselves repeatedly explaining their country's political system. Non-Americans pick up information about America by osmosis; the reverse doesn't happen, and, quite frankly, because the average American intervening in a non-American discussion has picked up less information than the other way around, Americans look arrogant/ignorant a higher percentage of the time.

Is this one-way flow because America is a superpower and the military and cultural linchpin of the west? Of course it is! I don't deny that. But to act as if the average American knows, or even has the opportunity to know, as much about a foreign country as foreigners know about America, is just not reflective of reality.

[–]Jarmatus 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nah, why should non-Americans, especially those on reddit, exercise any sort of criticism of their nations and devote even a fraction of their efforts to honestly assessing their own negative traits when they can just devote all their effort to fiendishly focusing on and bashing the US all the time?

This is hilarious.

My nationality - Australian - is one of those most commonly said to blame the US for all their problems.

Look at the front page of /r/australia. Does it look friendly to our government? Of the 27 stories currently on the front page, conservatively 15 of the non-satirical pieces are unambiguous strong criticism of our own government. Moreover this is reflective of the Australian political climate - we are working, volunteering and campaigning every day to change our own political system. Meanwhile, the US does not appear in that crop of articles once.

and also cope with a deep-seated insecurity about how they'd actually appear to stack up to the US if their eyes and ears weren't filled with unrealistically negative propaganda about the US.

This is hilarious armchair psychology and basically the only reason you haven't been mass-downvoted is because the vast majority of redditors are American and want to agree with you.

That's by design, that's how their governments and their media keep them distracted: focus on bashing Americans first and foremost.

What?

I've just conducted an informal census of the four major Australian news sites: ABC, Channel 7, Channel 9 and Channel Ten.

Of the 67 unique links on abc.net.au/news/, a total of 3 even mention the US. On au.news.yahoo.com (Channel 7), it's 64/2. ninemsn.com.au has infinite scroll, but of the first 70 links, 1 mentions the US. On tenplay.com.au, it's 27/1.

Our eyes and ears are filled with unrealistically negative propaganda about the US by the US, by sources that you trust if Americans read them. You get sore when the same criticisms come from non-Americans because you know that means that it's not just your political opponents who believe these things - it's neutral parties with a far lesser stake in your internal affairs.

[–]Januses-Anuses 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just checked ABC website and 2 of the top stories were based on the US.

[–]Jarmatus 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love how you grabbed onto the "especially".

Even if we didn't participate, America would still have a unique ability to fuck all of us over.

[–]_YouDontKnowMe_ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

But the Americans made us do it...

[–]WenatcheeValley 22ポイント23ポイント  (56子コメント)

We picked a pretty fucking reasonable guy to be president for the last decade, really.

And lately, what atrocities or terrible, backwards moving legislation can you pin on us? Gay marriage legalization? Recreational Legal Drug Laws? Our government hasn't been all that terrible since Bush tbh.

Remember, also, that paralysis caused by opposing viewpoints is a feature, not a bug, in our system. It's supposed to be slow and politically contentious to make big changes, on purpose. So even if some crazy guy gets elected, the system can and will handle it just fine.

[–]M_Night_Shamylan 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

well when you put it that way

[–]folderol 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ask an American if his vote makes any difference and he will say 'no'. In a lot of respects he is correct. I would ask, do Chinese politics scare the shit out of you?

[–]xxxStumpyGxxx 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

My ex-pat Mexican aunt told me this, "When the U.S. gets the sniffles, Mexico catches a cold."

[–]JohnQAnon 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well, if Europe would start spending on defense, that wouldn't be a problem.

[–]LLotZaFun 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm an American and for the 20+ years I've been old enough to vote, I promise that I've at least considered how my choices and what I support/protest can affect the world. I'm dong my best to help others expand their world view, which is quite difficult.

[–]Hailz20122012 20ポイント21ポイント  (3子コメント)

Dude you are the most powerful country in the world. We take your politics seriously because it fucking effects us.

[–]QuantumInteger 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Seriously, when I was up in BC there were balls to the walls coverage of the 2012 presidential election with live presidential debates. I remember Canada having had to move its own debates in order to accommodate the US ones. When I was in a hotel, there was like one channel dedicated to local BC news and everything else was focused on the US election.

[–]Fredvdp 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

People take Game of Thrones very seriously as well, and American politics are much more entertaining.

[–]Flafff 7ポイント8ポイント  (8子コメント)

yes, not like if politics of US could affect other countries /s

[–]cguy1234 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's like they think their opinions matter, heh

[–]Flight714 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

It's because American voters get to choose who runs the world, basically.

[–]ingridelena 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

"What do you think about Canadians/Europeans/Australians?"

"I don't." flips hair

[–]Darmok_At_Tanagra 134ポイント135ポイント  (55子コメント)

Absolutely. After 9/11 where everyone hated Americans because of Bush, I stopped giving a shit what anybody thought of us, primarily because most of the haters had probably never even set foot on American soil, so their hatred is/was nothing more than ignorance.

[–]gangnam_style 352ポイント353ポイント  (29子コメント)

Everyone was sympathetic immediately after 9/11. The Iraq War and the War on Terror was what really started the anti-American sentiment.

[–]brijjen 232ポイント233ポイント  (25子コメント)

The Iraq War and the War on Terror was what really started the anti-American sentiment.

Maybe the current bout of anti-american sentiment, but people have been hating on the US for years and years before. When I moved overseas in the nineties, it was considered fact that the US is an imperialist, culture-colonizing, self styled world police nation of rich people who know jack about anything else. That is, until someone needed something from the US or Americans and suddenly they were great friends and allies.

[–]gangnam_style 23ポイント24ポイント  (7子コメント)

Yeah, but after 9/11 there was a ton of pro-American sentiment. Bush's jingoistic War on Terror and the Iraq Invasion promptly erased that

[–]VillainNGlasses 21ポイント22ポイント  (5子コメント)

I Mean to be fair there was no way we were not going to war after watching the towers go down and 3000+ people die. It does not matter who the president was at that time America wanted blood.

[–]ChornWork2 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Iraq had nothing to do with that...

[–]gangnam_style 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

We could have gotten that out of our system with the war in Afghanistan.

[–]brijjen 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, in the months immediately following the attack, there was a lot of sympathy - though I heard a lot of "that'll show them to interfere," kind of statements, too. Things definitely tanked *again with the length of the war and the invasion of iraq. I just mean to say that wasn't the start of anti-american sentiment overall.

[–]HardcaseKid 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

Exactly. We're imperialist scum right up until we're needed. Then we're the second coming.

[–]-DDD- 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

thats the main reason americans dont listen...because all they do is bitch until they need help and cry for help... incredibly annoying

[–]TheTripleH 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

We do a shitload of charitable, generous things for other countries and don't really receive much credit nor does anyone ever even speak of it, really. I doubt people even realize the reasons why we have bases in other countries, or our contributions to the world at large.

We have faults for sure but most of them are domestic - these days, that is, and really there aren't any countries in the world that could claim to have no issues at all that's similar to America, or are being beaten by America, whatever.

But the circlejerk is that everyone adores hating the west; and when you start at a general point of China being the East based on old maps, then America is one of the most western countries in the world. Also a lot of self-loathing from people born in America, who never lived anywhere else, but reads up about the praising and adoration of Europe and the aforementioned circlejerk and end up joining it.

[–]RadiantSun 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can't just take the goods of hegemony without the bad.

The US is an imperialistic hegemonic world police nation of relatively (compared to many, many parts of the world) individually rich people. The fact that the US helps out is part of their hegemony. What people don't like is that the US shits wherever it wants and walks away.

Look at the middle east right now. Who deposed Saddam? We did. Now as a direct consequence of our actions, Iraq has devolved into chaos. Now we are shrugging and trying to pull out and cease involvement in the region, and the public sentiment is that it is not our war. "BRING OUR BOYS HOME!" What the fuck? How does that compute? We went I to a region under false pretences of finding weapons of mass destruction, deposed their fucked up but still functional base of stability and now suddenly it isn't our fault and people are wrong to expect the US to help clean up their fucking mess?

But let's go back before the Iraq war. 1950s, the US values it's buddy the Shah of Iran so much, they help organize a coup against the first democratically elected leader of Iran! And would you look at that, the Shah's brutal crackdowns on political opposition, backed, by the US created s theocracy, because no one else could touch them! U! S! A! U! S! A! Why do Iranians hate us so much, gaiz?

Or wait, what about that time we armed the brave little Mujahedeen to fight those dirty commies? Freedom! U! S! A! U! S! A!

[–]taco1520 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Well, a lot of those things are (or at least were) true. From 1950s to 1990s the US was very engaged in regime change in Central and South America, some of which placed some pretty bad people in charge. I understand the context at the time, with concerns over Soviet/Communist influence, and later the "war on drugs", but that doesn't justify replacing democratically elected leaders with U.S. Supported dictators. The US has done and still does a lot of good around the world, but let's not pretend everything we (the US) do is without harm to other nations.

[–]darkbreak 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't you love it when people act two-faced?

[–]strawbee 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

it was considered fact that the US is an imperialist, culture-colonizing, self styled world police nation of rich people who know jack about anything else. That is, until someone needed something from the US or Americans and suddenly they were great friends and allies.

This right here is exactly why the rest of the world really annoys me, and I'm not even American.

Malaysians, for example, like petitioning the White House to step into our politics, but when the former US Ambassador makes knowledgeable comments on the state of things in Malaysia, it's "these white people don't know anything".

Make up your goddamn mind.

[–]zombathon 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tbh a lot of that stuff is true.

[–]shmashed 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd offer the collapse of the Soviet Union as being the real turning point in how countries view the United States. The US was a great big brother to prevent being occupied by the Soviet Union. But, without a Soviet Union superpower, there wasn't much reason to keep good relations.

Bush and post 9/11 was just when the inevitable played out. Suddenly bashing the US was a great way to score political points in domestic elections and they became a punchline. And after the Georgia and Ukraine incidents of recent years, suddenly people want to be friendly again. When China decides it's time to direct its focus outward, the same will likely occur.

[–]Moal 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Honestly though, I'm American and I was pretty fucking disgusted by the mentality of a lot of Americans here during Bush's presidency. I live in a pretty conservative part of the Midwest and holy hell was it a cesspool of hatred and bigotry during those years. I'm half Middle Eastern and it was during those years that I experienced the most outward racism ever. Nowadays people just think my ethnicity is cool, but back then I would get nervous when people asked me about my heritage because I honestly didn't know how they were going to react.

[–]fenwaygnome 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

primarily because most of the haters had probably never even set foot on American soil, so their hatred is/was nothing more than ignorance.

The irony here is staggering.

Err...

Kiteo, his eyes closed

[–]King-in-Council 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hatred is overly strong. The annoyance is the both incredibly inward focused nature of American mixed with the hegemonic arrogance and a gracefulness of an elephant.

At least from a Canadian. You're our most important ally and trading partner and vice versa. But the relationship is unbalanced.

The citizenry are great though. It's Rome.

[–]nasty_nater 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's funny how this sort of thing gets even more localized; A lot of Americans hate America's America (Texas), even though they've never set foot there. Funnily enough it's also mostly because of Bush...

[–]redplanetlover 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Actually once you are in the US it's all ok. The shit of it is you have to take that FIRST step on US soil and those asshole border people are there. The act like we want to STEAL the fucking country or blow it up or something. All I really want is to eat at Bubba Gumps and catch my connection to Mexico.

[–]article134 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

As an American that has lived in a European country from 2007-2011, and also has close relatives in the UK currently, your jaw would hit the floor if you heard/saw what European news outlets feed their citizens about American politics. It's almost comical how skewed and downright wrong the information is they feed their citizens. It's what they want to hear though.

[–]Gooey_Gravy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wait, your telling me people exist outside of the US? I, I can't believe it..

[–]Dave_the_pope 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

"I pity you" -world "I don't think about you at all" -America

[–]shiftythomas 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't care what other American men think about me, let alone men from other countries.

[–]gloriasinefine 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The United States is the new Rome. You think a Roman in 140 CE cared even a little bit about what a barbarian Parthian thought of him? People always hate the hegemon.

[–]danbronson 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Canadians don't hate Americans. We just think you're kind of weird sometimes. I imagine it'd be like living in a house next to Macho Man Randy Savage. You think he's a little bit nutty sometimes, and you wish his answer to everything wasn't to fight, but at the end of the day he's your neighbour and without him things would be boring.

Source: I'm Canadian

[–]article134 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

As an American, and spoken like a true American: "get off our nuts, rest of the world."

[–]goofzilla 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

After we took Bieber off their hands... SHAME

[–]diegojones4 9ポイント10ポイント  (14子コメント)

Honestly, I don't think most people think about anything that doesn't affect them directly.

Just from reddit posts, I would say Americans think a lot more what other countries think than the other way around.

[–]sonofsmog 33ポイント34ポイント  (2子コメント)

I would say Americans think a lot more what other countries think than the other way around.

That's because young college-age liberals full of angst do care about what the rest of the world thinks of them. Everyone else... Not so much.

[–]Foofity 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

And frankly it's kind of a relief to transfer all that caring over to people with more energy.

[–]Clowns_Sniffing_Glue 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

I'm guessing OP is American, but so is the majority of people on Reddit.

[–]AngeredByStatistics 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

I heard it's split more half and half, with "non-americans" making an ever so slight majority

[–]hobnobbinbobthegob 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

I would actually be super interested to see the demographics of reddit. Do you have a source for that? (I'm not trying to be snarky)

[–]AngeredByStatistics 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

sadly no, I just remember a thread on /r/dataisbeautiful a while back that covered it. I'm sure if this thread becomes popular enough someone will have a link though.

I want to say the original data was pulled from this

https://www.reddit.com/r/blog/comments/kd8yy/who_in_the_world_is_reddit_results_are_in/

At the very least, you'll be able to see some other interesting facts about the reddit demographics

[–]hobnobbinbobthegob 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks, bruh. Some interesting stuff there, and I vaguely remember this taking place. Four years ago, though- I wonder if they'll do another soon?

[–]spiderlanewales 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hope so. Reddit has become a lot more "mainstream" in the last few years. I remember being in a bus on a tour, and our drummer was reading one of the "crazy facts" Asks and we were all like "dafuq is Reddit? Is it spelled like 'read it?'"

There's a video of him telling us about some army necklace that Gary Sinise wore in a movie.

[–]unicorntrash 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

The thing is we sometimes feel directly affected by the U.S. Without any personal preference we currently blame you for Internet Censorship, The Refugees because of the wars, the wars, Trump and generally always things like stupid movies and companies.

And i am writing from a country that was not somehow involved with war with you guys. I am sure you get blamed for worse things as well.

[–]ApocaRUFF 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

And i am writing from a country that was not somehow involved with war with you guys

Don't worry, there's still plenty of time.

[–]m1a2c2kali 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Idk man, ask the average American who the prime minister of Germany, Thailand or South Africa is and they would likely have no idea, but the average German, Thai or South African would likely know who the president of the US is.

[–]Keep-reefer-illegal 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck other countries. America is your leader

[–]lereisn 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

You know when you're in a bar, and theres that one loud mouthed brash idiot ruining everyones good time? Yeah, he's not thinking about the other people in the bar.

[–]that1do0d 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

How about you continue on with your 'good time' and not worry about the loud people.

[–]Titanomakhia 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Because the loud people have nukes and are tapping your phone.

[–]romaselli 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

"You may think I'm an ass but I don't think of you at all" Is really the best way to deal with haters.

[–]GoTron88 -1ポイント0ポイント  (10子コメント)

Canadian here. Ugh so many travel stories about Americans.

  • Met an American girl in Belgium. She had no idea that we Canadians used different currency than Americans. Not a big deal, but it adds up overtime with my other encounters.

  • While travelling through Italy I met an American couple who I thought were super nice. I was talking a little bit about Canada and how we are a youngish country trying to establish our own identity, and how we try to maintain that identity despite all the American influence directly south of us. Their response was "why?" I was flabbergasted, and politely excused myself from them.

  • Was talking to some Americans while in a pool in Peru. Talking about where we're from. They're from DC. I'm talking about where I'm from and how my sister lives in California. Suddenly these other two guys interrupt and are like "Hey we're from the US. We're Californian!" Everyone totally ignores me after that, while talking about their alma matas.

So many other stories. Individually they don't sound horrible, but man do they add up and grate me over time.

[–]Rittermeister 15ポイント16ポイント  (4子コメント)

We basically view you as the de facto 51st state, in case you're wondering.

[–]iusuallylie 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

to be fair...you only met americans who had enough money to leave the country. they sound like cunts to me too