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U.S. says it will not recognize South China Sea exclusion zone (reuters.com)

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[–]GrowlingTaco[S,🍰] 133ポイント134ポイント  (23子コメント)

For people who haven't been paying attention, China is widely expected to declare exclusion zone in the near future in the South China Sea, like it has already done in a East China Sea, either in response to an unfavorable a ruling in the court case brought by the Philippines on its territory claims or for some other reason. Unlike the East China Sea, a move like that in the South China Sea would be far more dangerous, which is why the US is prewarning.

[–]browne88 29ポイント30ポイント  (22子コメント)

Haven't been paying attention but just curious... What are the implications of this if it were to happen?

[–]GrowlingTaco[S,🍰] 95ポイント96ポイント  (21子コメント)

Depends how far it goes. Potentially? Full scale war. If China puts an exclusion zone in place and the US does not recognize the zone that puts pressure on China to stop the US from breaching it. Who knows where that goes, and neither side has a lot of room to back down. That's why the US is marking out the territory beforehand. It doesn't want to be in that sort of escalation. The only way China can stop the US from operating in the exclusion zone is through military force, and if that happens all bets are off. People talk about trade as if it is the arbiter of all events, but you can't put a price on nationalism and wounded pride.

[–]Max_Fenig 11ポイント12ポイント  (20子コメント)

A war between the US and China would be unimaginable horror.

[–]throwawaybecauseicam 2ポイント3ポイント  (19子コメント)

Depends on the scale of the war and each countries objectives. If its a conventional war fought in the pacific ocean china is fucked, soo fucking fucked, but most civilians wouldn't see to much of a direct impact, and the minute china launched a ballistic missiles at the usa, convential or otherwise, they'd be turned to glowing ash. At that point yeah it'd be horrible, but its not like the usa is going to invade china in a conventional war, we'd just lobe bombs and missiles at them until they said uncle.

[–]Xyklon-B 4ポイント5ポイント  (18子コメント)

I hate the anti-American sentiment people seem to carry with them nowadays. The might of the United States military would absolutely crush China.

Worst case scenario Russia teams up with China because they do not want to deal with fallout but in the end 2 of the top 3 super powers will be dust, and it will not be America.

We are strong and people smash our politicans, but if our empire falls so does their power and they will not let that happen.

[–]loldol 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's very unlikely Russia will join China at least for this cause. China going to full scale war for territories it claims isn't good news for Russia either.

[–]bottomlines [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

but in the end 2 of the top 3 super powers will be dust, and it will not be America.

No. All three will be dust.

[–]zin33 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (7子コメント)

the US couldnt even handle vietnam, how will they handle the chinese in their own turf? seems impossible

[–]Xyklon-B 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Seems impossible if you assume the technology in our military is the same.

[–]wangpeihao7 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

So...what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan?

[–]zin33 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

you had a WAY bigger advantage technology wise against vietnam than you do against china today.