A favorite tactic employed by leftists is to describe the Nazis as “right wing,” with Adolf Hitler, their leader, as the grand leader of this “right wing” movement. Rewriting history is pretty common for leftists, as their history is littered with injustice (the KKK was founded by Democrats, did you know?). Injustices they claim to fight against today. Awkward.
But thanks to this nifty thing called “history” in combination with “the internet,” we can bust this myth once and for all. Thoroughly. Or until a leftist insists on ignoring it. Then we’ll hold them down and tape their eyes open. Just kidding, that’s only what a leftist would do. For those who’d rather watch this column in video form, there’s one below. For those who prefer reading, yuck. But scroll down.
Adolf Hitler wasn’t “right wing.” If you take nothing else from this post, just remember Hitler was a socialist. With terrible facial hair. There’s an easy way to remember it, too. NAZI stands for National Socialist German Workers‘ Party. Associate it with blunt mustaches.
What does National Socialist German Worker’s Party mean? Glad you asked. Is it different from “Democratic socialism”? Only in semantics. A Democracy is mob rule, which is why America is actually a constitutional, representative republic, NOT a democracy. A representative republic protects the minority from the majority, whereas a democracy is the rule of the majority. Leftists get caught up in words, getting tripped up over “National Socialism” as opposed to “Democrat Socialism.” But it’s just that. Semantics. So when Hitler ginned up hatred for the Jews, he could get the mob to agree with him. He could get the mob to believe him. There were no representatives to stop Hitler. He was one man helming the desperation of a majority of people. Spot the difference?
When we examine Hitler’s Nazi Germany through the lens of history, most, if not all of us, think of the Holocaust. In fact the holocaust might be the only thing we associate with Hitler’s Nazis. We’ve all been told of the Jews being marched off to death camps where they were worked, tortured, then gassed. We’ve also heard of the experiments conducted by Hitler’s Dr. Mengele. All terrible practices which we rightly find horrifying. Unless you’re one of those people who think Planned Parenthood is great.
What we don’t often hear or learn about is how Hitler ruled the rest of Germany, what his domestic policies were for the German people he didn’t march off to death camps. Hitler’s domestic, socialist policies will be the focus of this post. Trigger warning: they’re eerily similar to what American Democrats tout today. Double trigger warning? He initially had the support of the mob of people. So replace many of Hitler’s policies with something you hear from Bernie Sanders…
Brief Historical Background on Hitler…
Germany lost World War I. As such, Germany was in a state of economic and national depression. Not totally unusual for losing a giant war. But the depression was a long, drawn out one (15 years) leaving the German people poor, hungry, desperate, lacking any confidence. Then along came a young man named Adolf Hitler…
Hitler was a powerful and spellbinding speaker who attracted a wide following of Germans desperate for change. He promised the disenchanted a better life and a new and glorious Germany. The Nazis appealed especially to the unemployed, young people, and members of the lower middle class (small store owners, office employees, craftsmen, and farmers).
Human beings may advance technologically, but spiritually? Not so much. In fact I’d contest we rarely learn our lessons when choosing our leaders. Especially charismatic ones. If a man (or woman) can speak eloquently, with confidence, we cannot help but be enthralled. We often follow along, like the town’s children following the pied piper.
Employment for All
After that depression, Hitler made a huge promise to his people: employment for all. How did he do it? Roads and infrastructure:
As Fuhrer, Hitler’s first priority was jobs, or the lack of them. German unemployment had peaked at 6 million due to the Depression devastating the economy. With innovative public works schemes such as the building of autobahns, Hitler put every German back to work. He also advocated schemes such as KdF – Strength Through Joy – which gave workers increased benefits for increased levels of production. This policy was popular and increasingly with the proletariat who had seen their country decimated by the depression…
By putting people back to work and making huge public spending, inflation was bound to happen. However, Hitler kept this under control by not allowing wages to rise with prices. This may have been one unpopular aspect of Hitler’s economic policy but there were many that the people supported.
So Hitler created jobs…through government. While at the same time, he criticized certain segments of the population, demeaning them, blaming the countries woes upon them. The rich, they just ruin everything. Sound familiar?
Big Education
If you haven’t seen it yet, go watch WW2 Surivor’s Account Draws Chilling Similarities between Nazism and Liberalism.
When the mothers had to go out into the work force, the government immediately established child care centers. You could take your children ages 4 weeks to school age and leave them there around-the-clock, 7 days a week, under the total care of the government. The state raised a whole generation of children. There were no motherly women to take care of the children, just people highly trained in child psychology. By this time, no one talked about equal rights. We knew we had been had.
Public education, where children are at school all day long, with state-funded and state-sponsored curriculum… convinced yet?
Nationalized Healthcare
Also from the WW2 Surivor’s accounting of Nazism:
After Hitler’s health care was socialized, free for everyone. Doctors were salaried by the government. The problem was, since it was free, the people were going to the doctors for everything. When the good doctor arrived at his office at 8 a.m., 40 people were already waiting and, at the same time, the hospitals were full. If you needed elective surgery, you had to wait a year or two for your turn. There was no money for research as it was poured into socialized medicine. Research at the medical schools literally stopped, so the best doctors left Austria and emigrated to other countries.
As for healthcare, our tax rates went up to 80% of our income. Newlyweds immediately received a $1,000 loan from the government to establish a household. We had big programs for families. All day care and education were free. High schools were taken over by the government and college tuition was subsidized. Everyone was entitled to free handouts, such as food stamps, clothing, and housing.
Do I really need to write commentary on this one? Really?
Gun Control
Yes, Germany had gun control. It started before Hitler with a national gun registry:
…in the 1920s in the chaos of Germany’s Weimar Republic, which opted for gun registration. Law-abiding persons complied with the law, but the Communists and Nazis committing acts of political violence did not.
Here’s what happened as a result:
In 1931, Weimar authorities discovered plans for a Nazi takeover in which Jews would be denied food and persons refusing to surrender their guns within 24 hours would be executed. They were written by Werner Best, a future Gestapo official. In reaction to such threats, the government authorized the registration of all firearms and the confiscation thereof, if required for “public safety.” The interior minister warned that the records must not fall into the hands of any extremist group.
Finally, Hitler just took the guns from Jews. An armed citizenry is a dangerous one, after all. Hitler even said this about guns in the hands of the people: “The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms.”
In Breslau in 1933, Jews were ordered to “surrender [their] weapons forthwith to the police authorities” on the basis that “Jewish citizens have allegedly used their weapons for unlawful attacks on members of the Nazi organization and the police.” This was a regular occurrence all over Germany until the Waffengesetz of 1938, which effectively banned Jewish firearm ownership in all of Germany (though this had been something of a reality for a while, as in 1935 the Gestapo had ordered no weapons permits to be issued to Jews without the approval of the Gestapo itself).
So excuse us Second Amendment supporters when we here Obama, Sanders and Clinton talking about regulating guns more than they’re regulated today. Call us paranoid. We’ll keep our guns.
Abortion
The great sacrament of the left, abortion. You’ll be pleased to know that Hitler was pro-choice:
Dr. Tessa Chelouche goes on to quote Hitler’s 1942 policy statement on the application of abortion to Slavic people, which is chillingly similar to modern Planned Parenthood propaganda:
“In view of the large families of the Slav native population, it could only suit us if girls and women there had as many abortions as possible. We are not interested in seeing the non-German population multiply…We must use every means to instill in the population the idea that it is harmful to have several children, the expenses that they cause and the dangerous effect on woman’s health… It will be necessary to open special institutions for abortions and doctors must be able to help out there in case there is any question of this being a breach of their professional ethics.”
Compare the Nazi’s application of abortion to how Planned Parenthood (a government-funded organization) operates. Also read up on Margaret Sanger, who echoed much of Hitler’s sentiment.
Blaming the One Percent Jews
Hitler used the Jews as a scapegoat, blaming them for everything, including economic hardship, even though the Jewish population in Germany was less than one percent…
Jews in Germany made up less than one percent of the German population. But held According to the census of June 1933, the Jewish population of Germany consisted of about 500,000 people. Jews represented less than one percent of the total German population of about 67 million people.
Despite that, Hitler insisted on taking their money…
Nearly 120 billion Reich marks – over £12 billion at the time – was plundered from German Jews by laws and looting.
The official study commissioned by the ministry examined the years from 1933 to 1945. Hans-Peter Ullmann, a Cologne history professor, said the tax authorities under the Nazis actively worked to “destroy Jews financially” and to loot wealth in the nations the Germans occupied.
Even Jews who managed to escape from Germany before the Holocaust had to leave part of their wealth behind in the form of an “exit tax”. Tax laws discriminated against Jews from 1934 onwards.
And boycotting their businesses…
APRIL 1, 1933 NATIONWIDE BOYCOTT OF JEWISH-OWNED BUSINESSES
At 10:00 a.m., members of the Storm Troopers (SA) and SS (the elite guard of the Nazi state) stand in front of Jewish-owned businesses throughout Germany to inform the public that the proprietors of these establishments are Jewish. The word “Jude,” German for “Jew,” is often smeared on store display windows, with a Star of David painted in yellow and black across the doors. Anti-Jewish signs accompany these slogans. In some towns, the SA march through the streets singing anti-Jewish slogans and party songs.
Review: Hitler demeaned the Jews. He blamed the economic and national depression on them. He instituted national boycotts of their business. He then took their money through taxes and outright looting. Hey, maybe they weren’t paying their “fair share.”
The Police State
If you dared oppose the Nazis or Hitler politically, especially with your words, you better watch out. The Gestapo was on the hunt for political dissidents, many of whom would simply vanish.
SS chief Heinrich Himmler also turned the regular (nonparty) police forces into an instrument of terror. He helped forge the powerful Secret State Police (Geheime Staatspolizei), or Gestapo; these non-uniformed police used ruthless and cruel methods throughout Germany to identify and arrest political opponents and others who refused to obey laws and policies of the Nazi regime.
Compare the Gestapo with how leftists want to jail people who do not believe in man-made climate change. Compare the Gestapo to the Gaystapo, who fines people who do not agree with gay marriage or the gay lifestyle. Compare the Gestapo to liberal New York, which fines you for not using the right gender pronouns.
In Conclusion
Hitler was a horrible human being. But aside from how he treated the Jews, aside from his monsterous ways, his polcies were anything but “conservative.” He wanted big government, he wanted big eductation, he wanted thought control. He hated political dissidents. He loathed free-speech. He feared an armed citizenry.
So stop saying “Hitler was right-wing.” No, he wasn’t. If anything, he was a full-fledged left-winger. With a horrible mustache.
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The ‘Hitler did it’ fear mongering fallacy at its finest. Oh no, Hitler believed in funding the military a lot we can’t possibly do that! Oh no, Hitler drove cars?!? Stop the production of cars!
And listen before someone calls me a #FeelTheBern socialist, no I’m absolutely am not, I think socialism is cancer to modern day society, it’s merely the way your arguing it.
It’s not fallacy, it’s history. The left is determined to change history or completely ignore it to get what they want. The old adage about history repeating itself has already happened many times to many great countries and ours is falling for the same trap.
Gregor Strasser by the way was put in prison by the regime during the “Night of the Long Knives” Nazi purge and then assassinated on Hitler’s personal order by the Berlin Gestapo on June 30, 1934. His assassins shot through a window into Strasser’s cell, killing him.
John, that’s a straw man fallacy. No one is arguing ‘Hitler did it’ so we shouldn’t. Actually, the left claims that republican are similar to Hitler and fascism, when it is the left who most closely resemble fascism. That is what Crowder is debunking here.
I have a newsflash for you. Fascism is progressiveism re-branded. It was the blending of syndicalist (socialism) and nationalism and sold as the third way against capitalism.
https://veritasvincitprolibertate.wordpress.com/2014/08/30/the-progressive-roots-of-fascism/
I understand the point you try and make. The problem is the purpose of Steven’s article isn’t to simply say “Hitler did it better not do that.” That was never the purpose of this argument. It was to create a mental framework to form the best image of Hitler’s worldview. Believe it or not we should probably avoid using the suffering of the people to further personal agenda, like Hitler.
So you’re arguing against a purpose Steven never intended.
I suspect Hitler breathed air too so we must all stop doing that. These activities being pointed out are being pushed be the “Progressives” (socialists) not the conservatives. Or do you just refuse to get the point?
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Hitler exploited and mercilessly tortured, killed, because of ethnic backround. He robbed, stole, took assets from many hard eorking individuals.he robbed and criminally stole whole contries of their valued components. Do you understand that? A statement regarding an 80% tax increase has never been sought by Dems. Tax increases proposed by Dems are historically suggested for those who enjoy the highest standards of living. This includes corporation, whom run amok when.not regulated. That means exploitatin for profits by any means. Impoversed working families, including immigrants, often take very low paying jobs can’t even hope to utilize any moneies that enable the wealthy to increase wealth. Think this way, it takes money to make money. Can you understand? Pray for your mind to open.
Vaso Williams, you claim you are no Socialist even while claiming the top 1% are not paying their fair share in taxes and deserve to be required to pay more. Yet you do seem somehow capable of understanding that money is needed in order to make money. It’s either cash in hand or it’s borrowed. One way or another somebody is going to shell out quite a large chunk of change to open a business. Here is the parts you and the rest of the Socialists always seem to miss (or ignore as being inconvenient to your agenda).
1. Whether it’s a tiny little Mom & Pop business with half a dozen or less employees or a multinational mega-corporation with hundreds or thousands, even millions of employees. If they can make a whopping 4% profit they are doing pretty darn good.
2. It can take 5, 10, 20 years or more of steady profits for a business owner to make back their initial investment.
3. 75% or more of the working US population pay effectively 0% personal income taxes by the time they file their tax returns at the end of the year. And quite a large percentage of those actually get back more tax refund than they paid during the year.
4. The USA currently charges among the highest Corporate Taxes to be found in he World.
If a business, any business cannot make enough profits for the owners to get a reasonable return on their investment. They simply will not invest and that business will close. That means that many more people out of a job.
Before you point to the billions of dollars profits made by this, that, or the other Corporation. Why don’t you first find out just how many Owners that Corporation has. Every person who owns just 1 share of stock in the Corporation is an owner. Most stocks pay dividends every 3 months. Any stock that pays 50 cents per share, every 3 months is generally considered to be doing pretty darn good. At 50 cents every 3 months, how many shares would you need to own just to pay your own bills?
John….you completely fabricated all the statistics in your comment, rendering you pointless.
Where is your factual information to rebut his claims?
Your protest may be accurate, (I don’t know.) but it looks like an emotional state of denial. Your argument would be stronger if you, in order of credibility, said which statistics are wrong, gave the correct numbers, cited sources, used sources that we can all agree are likely to be accurate. Good hunting!
How so Helen? Where are your counter- argument ?
Well I make less than $250k a year, so why did my healthcare costs (tax) jump so much? Why have my property taxes jumped thru the roof these past 7 years?
What myth?!?! It was the The National Socialist German Workers’ Party!Of course he was a socialist!
One needs to be careful how they use the term liberal. A classic liberal would be a conservative by todays standards. Hitler was a facist and a socialist but he was not a liberal. Bernie sanders is a social democrat, which means he favors more democracy in our social and political institutions. I don’t know how you compare this to what Hitler did. Todays republicans could be called corporatists. Todays democrats favor democracy and socialism, but they are not liberals in the classic use of the word.
Bernie is a step in the direction to lead to a person with the same values as Hitler. Corporatists are no better and both parties need a HUGE cleaning out. Revolutions are a great way to clean house:)
Hitler exploited and mercilessly tortured, killed, because of ethnic backround. He robbed, stole, took assets from many hard eorking individuals.he robbed and criminally stole whole contries of their valued components. Do you understand that? A statement regarding an 80% tax increase has never been sought by Dems. Tax increases proposed by Dems are historically suggested for those who enjoy the highest standards of living. This includes corporation, whom run amok when.not regulated. That means exploitatin for profits by any means. Impoversed working families, including immigrants, often take very low paying jobs can’t even hope to utilize any moneies that enable the wealthy to increase wealth. Think this way, it takes money to make money. Can you understand? Pray for your mind to open before your youth loses any promise of humanity.
Vaso, when Democrats talk about going back to the tax rates of the 1950s, they’re talking about double-digit tax rate increases but in those days, rates were up around 90% although nobody ever actually paid that rate because of deductions, hiding their wealth, etc.
Also, regulation is not an all-or-nothing proposition. A few sensible regulations are necessary like “Don’t dump industrial waste into the river” or “Don’t collude with your competitors to set prices.” However, in 2015 alone, the federal government spewed out over 80,000 pages of new regulations. They have gone way, way beyond those few simple ones. Most of those regulations are really there to keep smaller competitors out of the market. It’s called Crony Capitalism and that, more than anything, is what keeps people in poverty because they can no longer afford to start their own business.
Bernie has stated in town hall meetings that he would like to see a 60% or maybe even “Higher” tax on the top 1%. What if this tax collected is not enough to sustain his plans? Who next will get taxed at the 60% or “Higher” rate? Bernie would just be the beginning of the downward spiral into ?????
This video explains the true left-right spectrum:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VogzExP3qhI
Furthermore the bust is that you believe Hitler’s myth.But then again too many did and that’s the real danger as you embrace a repeat of history, where as timelessness follows diabolical misconceptions. Ugh
Sounds like a sound bite from the original “Batman” Movie of the 60’s:) Remember Batman running up and down the pier with a BIG black bomb over his head like Wylie Coyote?! That shits funny!!! I don’t care who you are:)
Yeah, “some days you just can’t get rid of a bomb” – batman. It cracked me up.
I’m seeing lots of comments refuting the premise of the article, maybe some of you should invest some time in reading The Road to Serfdom, written by an Austrian during WWII (living in England during that time).
Also, socialism, communism, and any system of government are not unified in ideology. There is such a thing as competing forms of socialism. It’s not one size fits all. Example: all three North American countries can be considered democracies, but no two of them are exactly the same. That’s true for communist and socialist countries as well
John….you completely fabricated all the statistics in your comment, rendering you pointless.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Adolf_Hitler#.22We_are_Socialists.22
I feel Godwin’s law has been invoked and I’m not surprised. It is a tactic done repeatedly and there is probably an article somewhere on how Republicans (e.g.Trump) are Hitler reincarnate.
But, in reality, neither Democrats (Sanders, Clinton) or Republicans (Trump, Cruz) are Hitler. Both are liberal ( https://zippycatholic.wordpress.com/2013/11/18/definition-of-liberalism/ )
The United States has been liberal since its founding and will continue to be liberal till the entire rotten system is burnt down. But to point out a few fallacies –
“A Democracy is mob rule, which is why America is actually a constitutional, representative republic, NOT a democracy”
– Do you vote for your leaders? Last time I checked you did, so you are a democracy. Just because you do it differently doesn’t make it any less democratic.
“his polcies were anything but “conservative.”
– Conservatives are simply last weeks progressives, so to claim that your current ideology is ‘conservative’ is a lie. ‘Conservative parties and movements have not done much else but bemoan and stem a bit the leftward drift of state and society.’
“So stop saying “Hitler was right-wing.” No, he wasn’t. If anything, he was a full-fledged left-winger. With a horrible mustache.”
– Hitler was indeed left, as is the entire United States (and all its political party’s). When you say ‘left-winger’ you imply that Nazism is to the ‘left’ of your political stance, but when we look at what is to the ‘right’ we find that you are in fact ‘left’ yourself. The Real Right, who reject the ‘enlightenment’ philosophies of the modern world, was appalled by Hitler and denounced him. To quote Eric von Kuehnelt-Leddihn, “National-Socialism is a fulfillment of the French Revolution and not a “relapse into the Dark Ages,” or a “putting of the clock back.” and finally “Characteristics which are usually termed “Nazi” can be found in most nations, especially in “progressive” and “democratic” nations.”
I thought we are a Democratic Republic and our population more Center right. Oh, what do I know, I’ve been inhaling too many fumes from my gun cleaning solvents. Guess I should switch to Weed:P After all there aren’t that many gun toting folks in the nation.lol
Thomas: Not sure where you went to school, but the U.S. is not a true democracy (this is a good thing). We are a democratic republic (or another term would be constitutional or representative republic). This means we elect leaders (not based on majority but equal representation by state) and that those leaders represent us in governing. law-making, etc. We do this so that mob-rule and/or one group of people doesn’t have undue influence over the other. And if you need further convincing, this is from the U.S. Constitution itself: “The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government.”
Except….
In 1927, Hitler said: “We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”[51] Yet two years later, in 1929, Hitler backtracked, saying that socialism was “an unfortunate word altogether” and that “if people have something to eat, and their pleasures, then they have their socialism”. Historian Henry A. Turner reports Hitler’s regret at having integrated the word socialism to the Nazi Party name.[52] The Nazi Party’s early self-description as “socialist” caused conservative opponents, such as the Industrial Employers Association, to describe it as “totalitarian, terrorist, conspiratorial, and socialist”.[53
Next time you want to write an article, might want to actually crack open the rest of the history book and check all the facts. This will make you appear a lot less an idiot with your anti left bias. 😉
Do you know that “Nazi Party” is the Workers Party? How many Workers Party are from the right? Hitler adopted Mussolini creation, Mussolini a dissident of Italian Socialist Party, Fascism or National Socialism.
Agree with your comment. Remember that Hitler was vying for control of the NSDAP with the SA ,which at the same time served as a Nazi force on the streets and competed for control of the movement at the same time. The Sturmabteilung(SA) were Socialists who wished to foment a national revolution and replace the Army. There was actually an SA “coup” in 1931 in Berlin and the Eastern part of Germany which Hitler just brought under control. Hitler hated the left and the Communists as well as the Catholic Center and the Socialists. Even his message uopn ascension as Chancellor was duplicitous. He removed the Communists after the Reichstag fire and the SA leadership in June, 1934, “Night of the long knives”.
And there at the end of your statement is the typical leftist insult of you’re an “Idiot”. I agree that the full history be shared. Just don’t believe you need to insult someone to make your point. See, I didn’t use a personal attack(insult) of your character to reply to your statement. That makes me feel good, maybe I’m a leftist also. I’m mean after all I care about how I feel and that I appear to be taking the Moral high ground:):):)
This is complete revisionist crap. Hitler was tagged to become Germany’s leader after a meeting with German Industrialists and high-ranking military leaders. He was told point blank that he had to purge the Brownshirt leadership and disband the organization of street thugs. The Wehrmacht leadership was insistent that this second army had to be disbanded. The socialist aspect of the Nazi movement ended with the murder of Brownshirt leader Ernst Rohm and his cronies during the “Night of the Long Knives.”
If Hitler was a socialist, why did he put socialists in the death camps?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camp_badge
They wore the red triangles.
The holocaust never happened. 15.6 million Khazar impostors posing as Jews existed worldwide in 1934 and 15.2 million existed worldwide in 1945. So where did the alleged 6.0 million impostors posing as Jews (the synagogue of Satan of Revelation 2:9 and 3:9) disappear to?!? Hmmm?
Hitler and the Germans have been demonized by Khazar impostORs posing as Jews as a ruse and a pretext to perpetrate their horrible crimes against humanity (the extermination of 142 million non-“Jewish” Russians, Chinese, Vietnamese and Cambodians at the hands of their “jewish”-inspired Satanic Communist governments during the 20th century, the ethnic cleansing and genocide of 800,000 Palestinians in 1947 & 48, and the false flag attack of 9/11 upon America, which was falsely blamed on Muslim Arab terrorists, to name but three such atrocities the “jews” are hideously guilty of).
You’re funny:) Have you been “Waking’N’Baking long?
Never happened? Have you ever been to Germany or Poland? I have been to the concentration camp at dachau. I have seen the ovens. They have the shower room set to be a gas chamber, though that was near the end of the war and never used. There is lots of signed orders to execute Jews and others in the museum, located where the officers hall was. I have a relative that has or had the Jewish number tattooed on his arm. He had passed away some years ago. Don’t insult me by saying the Holocaust didn’t happen, it did.
Anyone with half a brain knows this is BS. None of what Hitler did was liberal or socialist. His fascist agenda promoted ethnic cleansing similar to what is happening today with the Christian Right and White Supremacy movements. A socialist liberal would support diversity and opportunity for all, not just the 1%ers.
Right, or not.
Not really. Remember that Hitler was vying for control of the NSDAP with the SA ,which at the same time served as a Nazi force on the streets and competed for control of the movement at the same time. The Sturmabteilung(SA) were Socialists who wished to foment a national revolution and replace the Army. There was actually an SA “coup” in 1931 in Berlin and the Eastern part of Germany which Hitler just brought under control. Hitler hated the left and the Communists as well as the Catholic Center and the Socialists. Even his message uopn ascension as Chancellor was duplicitous. He removed the Communists after the Reichstag fire and the SA leadership in June, 1934, “Night of the long knives”.
I have a long knife. I call it a sword:)
Thomas: Not sure where you went to school, but the U.S. is not a true democracy (this is a good thing). We are a democratic republic (or another term would be constitutional or representative republic). This means we elect leaders (not based on majority but equal representation by state) and that those leaders represent us in governing. law-making, etc. We do this so that mob-rule and/or one group of people doesn’t have undue influence over the other. And if you need further convincing, this is from the U.S. Constitution itself: “The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government.”
Socialism, Fascism or anything else that moves the people away from freedom and towards slavery is evil.
@Timmy
Timmy… you do realize that ethnic cleansing or tolerance of races has ZIP inherently to do with with Fascism or Socialism right, especially as economic or political systems, right?
I mean, crap, you know how racist Venezuela is despite being a Socialist Utopia? Yet, by your flawed logic, they can’t possibly be socialists (even though they totally are, right down to the massive food lines) because you added an extraneous condition that just doesn’t exist in the definitions of either Fascism or Socialism.
Holy Hell Crowder – there’s so much wrong with this post it’s hard to know where to start. For someone who’s normally pretty aware of spin, it seems you’ve drunk the WWII Anti-German propaganda Kool-Aid. You might want to research WHY the Germans wanted the Jews out of the country (hint: it has a bit to do with World Jewry declaring economic war on Germany in 1933 and further destroying their economy). Additionally you might want to look outside the Zionist propaganda about the “Holocaust” and say, try to do some basic sleuthing – like finding a list of the supposed “6 million” Jews killed, or, even doing the logistical math on how 4.4 million Jews were (supposedly) gassed and subsequently burned in 12 small ovens at Auschwitz. One could even go so far as to ask “Why will they jail you in 13 countries for “Holocaust Denial” – but nobody cares if you deny the Holomodor (the Communist mass murder of Ukrainians) or what Pol Pot did, or Mao?” Maybe read the full testimony of the Ernst Zundell trial transcripts (Tried in 1988 in Canada for “Holocaust Denial”) and see what you think … or even ask yourself why Hitler was on the cover of Time and Life, and people like JFK thought he was a great man ….
The recognized number of Jews under German control during WWII was 4,536,500. Another firm number is the number of survivors claiming post war compensation from Germany during the period from October 1, 1953 to December 31, 1987. There were 4,384,138 submitted claims. Doing the math speaks volumes about the true number of Jewish casualties during the war:
Number of Jews under German control in WWII . . . . . . . 4,536,500
Subtract number of Jews filing compensation claims. . . 4,384,138
Dead Jews? 152,362
Seems a few short of the incessant claims…..
Theodor, you are wrong on the 13 countries that will imprison you for any attempt to say that the holocaust did not occur. It is 17 (seventeen) countries that will put you in the slammer. Sylvia Stolz went to prison in Germany for being the defense attorney for holocaust denier Ernst Zundel. What was she guilty of ? Of course, she put up too good of a defense !
He wasn’t a liberal. You lose personal credibility with a lame, logically-flawed argument attempting to portray him as one.
Crowder is right again. YES, HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST. What you Leftists are leaving out of your revisionist history posts above, is the fact that Hitler was only against full-on communism, not socialism. He hated the communists, but he agreed and sided with the socialists. He did not have Ernst Rohm taken out to end the socialist wing of the Nazi’s, he took out Rohm because he had grown too powerful in the eyes of Hitler. The SA moved on without Rohm. Socialism was supposed to always be the solution, in Europe and that longing for socialist utopia is still strong to this day, in Europe.
There are grave problems with trying to pin Nazism down to either a right-wing or a left-wing philosophy. The fact is that the Nazis were willing to mouth either right-wing or left-wing slogans, or both at once, if it advanced their personal power. Logic was one of the first things rejected by Nazi doctrine; it is pointless to try to make a consistent philosophy out of what was explicitly based on mere willfulness.
this is a load of crap. the author is an imbecile.
The harsh economic punishments meted out by the victors of WW1 made economic recovery nearly impossible. This made their depression worse and help give rise to German anger.
It’s my understanding that socialism is an economic system and can exist within different types of government. We have public services in this country which are socialistic. Nazi Germany was a facist dictatorship. Yes, Hitler used socialism to get the majority vote from poor angry workers by blaming a minority population, and then quickly made himself a dictator. If he hadn’t invaded other countries and carried out genocide on anyone not meeting racial and genetic purity standards he wouldn’t be remembered as Evil. Bernie Sanders is actually more similar to FDR than Hitler. Hmmm…but there IS a candidate supported by poor angry whites with racist ideologies who wants to create a data base of Muslims. Probably an easier comparison in my opinion.
That is stupid. One enemy of this country is Muslim. They intend to invade us and use our laws against us. Trump wants to deport people wanting to do us harm. Does he blame them for all that is wrong in this country? No. Did they attack us on 9/11/01? Yes. Muslims is a religion? Islam is a political system? Neither is considered a race. So how is Trump a racist? You may hate the man, but your comparison doesn’t hold water.
Hitler was is no way a socalist but a corporatist that put power in the hands of banks and corporations. One of the first things Hitler did was ban labor unions and jail communists.
Chaim:
Why did Hitler ban labor unions and jail communists?
He didn’t need the competition. These groups used the same tactics he did. His tentative control of the country could have ended in revolution and bloodshed.
An earlier post discussed Hitler’s agreements with the country’s industrialists and generals. This was calculated–with their support he ruled. He won their support but making clear he wanted a strong military, and to reach that goal he would make the industrialist’s companies very profitable. Didn’t matter what else he did to the country, in their eyes, as long as they got what they wanted. By the time they realized what he really was politically, he had the support of the populace through his very captivating speeches. Whether he was a liberal or a conservative is irrelevant; his job as his party’s leader was to take power and keep it. To do that he would say anything and promise anything. He would keep the promises that garnered public approval, AND furthered his personal and party agenda. And he did…
Good article. Very informative. However, who proof read this article? Several misspellings and bad usage of writing. Pardon the pun but I guess I will be a grammar Nazi. Lol. For example, last sentence: “So stop saying “Hitler was right-wing.” No, he wasn’t. If anything, he was a full-fledged left-winger. With a horrible mustache.” Should be “If anything, he was a full-fledge left-winger, with a horrible mustache.”
“So when Hitler ginned up hatred for the Jews, he could get the mob to agree with him. He could get the mob to believe him.” Are you kidding me? Isn’t this the absolute tactic Trump is using, scapegoating everyone and everything?
As for Bernie blaming the 1%, hasn’t there been an actual up flow of wealth from the bottom half to a tiny fraction of the population? And aren’t bankers and hedge-fund managers making exorbitant amounts of money while actually committing crimes, or at least they should be crimes, by gambling other peoples money, speculating, and rigging the system? And if they fail, they get bailed out, give themselves bonuses and walk away at the majority’s expense.
I get it. The democratic socialism of Denmark and Sweden today is cut from the same cloth as Hitler’s National Socialism.
Socialists disagree even among themselves as to what constitutes “true socialism” but the recurring theme is the belief in control of the means of production by its workers. In this respect, there was nothing at all “socialistic” about Hitler’s Reich. He was in bed with powerful industrialists such as Messerschmitt, Krupp, Volkswagen, and yes, Henry Ford.
Consider the Strasser brothers. They were expelled for taking the “socialist” component of the Nazi Party name seriously. Gregor Strasser was slain during the Rohm purge in 1934. Otto fled the country and claimed later that his faction had nothing against the Jews.
There’s some question whether the referenced quote was originated by Hitler or by Gregor Strasser. Be that as it may, Hitler was hardly above lying for political expediency, in this case to attract broader elements to his movement. That was why “socialist” was included in the name of the party in the first place.
Even if one attributes the statement to Hitler, he certainly flip-flopped in 1929, saying that socialism was “an unfortunate word altogether.”
As for the claim in the article that Hitler was “pro choice,” that one indeed rates a pants on fire. In 1936, Himmler established the Reich Central Office for the Combating of Homosexuality and Abortion. Nazis were obsessed with the propagation of good “Aryan” blood.
David Rupert, socialists in America are also in bed with the wealthy industrialists. Socialist politicians arent proletarians, theyre wanna be masters, and they lie in the same way Hitler lied.
Good article ? Some really strange people around if they believe this haha.
Calling yourself a “socialist” does not make you a socialist. Giving a minimum wage that is well below the level needed to live on does not make a socialist. Giving free all day “adult supervision” ( lets not call it education please, it’s sole purpose was to indoctrinate children as young as possible and to FORCE mothers to work for the greater good of the fatherland).
Building roads and infrastructure is not confined to socialists, especially when a good proportion of those were built using slave labour conscripted from amongst the unemployed and immigrants, there was no “choice” you worked or starved, simple.
Hitler was so down on big business that he was financed by them his entire political life, rewarding them with huge government contracts and slave labour.
And finally it wasn’t just 1% of Jews Hitler and his regime exterminated, it was Poles, Russians, Slavs, Disabled, mentally impaired, and basically anyone who failed to follow or was of the Greater Aryan Race regardless of race or religion.
Everyone who calls somebody who doesn’t agree with him Left/Right and stops thinking right there, is an intellectual sloth. That seems to include the author of this piece.
Cherry picked facts and you left out a ton of stuff about Nazi Germany and Hitler. He was able yo give everyone in Germany a job after he kicked all the women and Jews out of business and replaced them with German men. He didnt have take your kid to work day carem. They had lebensborn
.or the furhersbrides. Aka unwed girls encouraged to pump out Germans for the war. Read some Kershaw
You might want to revise one aspect of this article, which is the scapegoats for this movement. The 1% is being bandied about, but this is only a feint to enlist allies, in actuality it has been fairly obvious for the last 40 years that the true target of the scapegoating is the white american middle class.
There are many scapegoats in the US, there are the White males, the Black males, the Hispanic males and of course Jews. The country is just as bad as the Nazis. The only difference is our Constitution. We have the right to arm ourselves and it keeps the barbarians at the gates at bay. However, it really does not matter. The greatest damage done to the Germans and the Americans is the rejection of Christianity. As Germany fell quickly under der Leaders desire to bring back paganism so too is the American nation falling with something even worse. Secularism. Code word for Atheism.
Whats with all the unattributed quotes? What were you quoting in the gray inset boxes? Also, i like all the peewee herman gifs. Really adds a touch of gravitas to your article about authoritarian politics
Here’s an argument from a grown-up.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100261121/hitler-wasnt-a-socialist-stop-saying-he-was/
You’re welcome.
The Nazi Party was in reaction to the Weimar Republic, The Nazi’s were to the extreme Right in their era and deeply opposed to the extreme left of their era, the Communists. From Wikipidea:
“Hitler never portrayed himself and the Nazi movement to the German people as outspoken proponents of atheism, but rather as faithful Christians.[24][25] He publicly declared: “We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity … in fact our movement is Christian.”[26] And in fact the vast majority of Nazi Party members were Christian, about 45% Catholic. The Nazi Party enjoyed the support of Industry and the military – the furthest right elements of their society. They were obviously racist. And exclusionary. Many of todays European rightist movements embrace elements of Nazism. Neo -Nazi groups always identify as far right. It is understandable that the American right would hope to see distance between themselves and the angry right of the Nazi era. Unfortunately they are wrong.
Yea, that’s why it was referred to as the National Socialist Party.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Adolf_Hitler#.22We_are_Socialists.22
Remove that the KKK was founded by Democrats. Democrats and Republicans have switched ideals since the KKK was founded. Abe Lincoln would’ve been a Democrat in today’s time. Otherwise I did enjoy the article and do believe that Hitler was a socialist.
This headline is true, with the exception of the word “liberal”. Hitler was anything but.
“Liberal” is supposed to mean “Of and pertaining to freedom; liberty”
Today, we use “liberal” as slang for “socialist”. But the two philosophies really couldn’t be more different.
We’ve got to stop using that word wrong. It’s not helping anybody.
All houses of socialism ( be it communism, Fabian socialism, national socialism, ect.) are built on a foundation of fascism. Every socialist state in existence today cannot survive unless imposes collective conformity under duress of the law. Every country that descends into a socialist state, its first action against its people is to make it unlawful to “speak” out against the auspices of socialism. Even in Canada it is unacceptable to speak ill of the socialist policies of that government. In most cases the second action a socialist regime takes against its people – is to disarm them. After all a socialist (progressive) government prefers to victimize an unarmed society. Its so much easier this way. There are two exceptions to the disarmament policy of the socialist state; Israel and Switzerland. Under an American progressive socialist regime, it is guaranteed our society will be disarmed. By deadly force if necessary.
In a socialist society there is no room for the individualist. The individualist is seen as an agent of capitalism, a pillar of strength and a symbol of freedom. To a socialist ideologue, an individualist is a mortal enemy to the collective.
Socialism’s first front of assault on the American experiment was through taxation. Its second front was the corrosion of self reliance by way of social programs. The third front of assault was the social corruption, using the entertainment industry to that end. The fourth front goes through our educational system. The primary tool being political correctness, to corrupt the language and to pervert historical context and scientific perceptions. (The Soviets, Nazis, Maoists, North Koreans, Viet Cong,Khmer Rouge and the Castro’s all practiced their own form of political correctness to impress indoctrination.) The fifth front is censorship. And the most powerful tool they use for that assault, is the very tool we are using to discuss this issue. Mainly used by the state to find out who is a threat to the collective and who will serve as useful idiots.
In the end, all forms of socialism is a virus that mutates with experience and a cancer that matastisises over time with deadly results.
I “choose” to live as an antibiotic to the disease of socialism.
The quote has been misattributed to Adolf Hitler. It was actually written and published in a letter by Gregor Strasser, one of the founding fathers of the National Socialist German Worker’s Party. In the early days, there was a radical left leaning element in the Nazi party. It didn’t last. Hitler has Strasser murdered and his supporters thrown in concentration camps during the 1934 ‘Night of the Long Knives”. After that, the leftist elements of the Nazi party were wiped out, and Hitler and his right-wing underlings were in full control.
https://youtu.be/ssCkc8t9sho
So this means the conservatives in Germany could not produce policy to keep people working in post war Germany. So failed policies of the conservatives created a spot for Hitler to rise to power.
Basically every historian worth a crap thinks Crowder is wrong.
So you’re saying I can’t be a Right-Wing Authoritarian? I mean Benito Mussolini abandoned the Left because he lost hope and so decided that the Right was a better choice, you can be an Authoritarian and a Conservative hence Fascism. Hell I consider myself a Mussolinian Fascist and also identify myself as Far-Right Authoritarian (I’m not a Nazi since I despise them for horrible atrocities such as killing Jews, Slavs, Poles, Disabled and Homosexuals and making Fascism look bad)
Hitler by all means was not a Leftist but a Far-Rightist. Why? Here are my points:
– NSDAP made alliances with the National Conservative People’s Party along with many Far-Right groups
– Many Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists identify as Far-Right
– Hitler purged the Socialist Strasserist Faction (The Faction of the NSDAP who wanted Socialism)
– He made deals with Industrialists who were filthy rich
– He wasn’t a Socialist, it was only in Name, just because your called the National Socialist Party doesn’t mean you’re a Socialist. Hell there is such thing as Right-Wing Socialist.
– He was a Conservative in that he promoted and imposed Germanic Traditional and Racial Purity as well as unite Austria which was by all means Germanic.
– No Rich Germans were prosecuted by the Nazis only Jews.
– The German economy was not controlled by the Fuhrer rather by Business’ who made deals with the Party.
– People in the National Socialist Party wanted to revive Germanic Paganism while others wanted to maintain a Firm Christian way of life. Hence they were both Conservatives who were divided in their way of tradition.
In Conclusion, Hitler was a Far-Right Socialist.
I mean there is a political Compass
– Right-Wing Libertarian (American Republican Party, American Libertarian Party)
– Right-Wing Authoritarian (Italian National Fascist Party, French Front National, United Kingdom Independence Party, Chinese Nationalist Party)
– Right-Wing Totaliterian (National Socialist German Workers Party)
– Left-Wing Libertarian (Spanish National Confederation of Labour/Anarchists)
– Left-Wing Authoritarian (American Democratic Party, Social Democrat Party of the United States)
– Left-Wing Totaliterian (Soviet Communist Party, Chinese Communist Party, Korean Workers Party)