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Winner #17 brief update #1 (self.millionairemakers)

SannynSeventeenth Winner が 投稿

Hello you awesome people of millionairemakers!

I promised many people in the original thread that I would make a few updates so anyone interested in that, read on. Here is a brief first update. I hope making a new post like this is okay as I expect noone would see an edit made in the original, but if this is a faux pas let me know and I'll change/delete/burn it with fire.

What is looking to be more or less the final tally as donations have just about stopped now is ~$1960. I've tried and I think succeeded in thanking everyone who left a comment but if I overlooked you by mistake or you donated without commenting, THANK YOU!

As to my plans: rent has been paid, noodles have been bought, domain names are secured, research has been done, some content has been written. The first website should be going up in approximately a week I would guess and the next not much longer after. A bit slower than hoped as I've gotten a bit ill, probably helped along by the recent excitement and lack of sleep (your fault you heartless monsters! /s). Once it's up and has Whois guard, and if I'm allowed to shamelessly plug it here, I'd be very happy to post a link if there is interest. But I don't want to spam the community if it isn't wanted. So I guess if there is enough interest I'd be happy to make a few detailed updates as things advance, if not I'll make one more once things have evolved a bit further for those who are interested.

Some minor stats about donations:

  • Paypal was by far the most popular method, followed by changetip.
  • Dogetip and Litecoin were unsurprisingly used least often - $11 between the two.
  • Approximately $80 of payments did not go through in changetip due to "pocket error". I'm not entirely sure how it works to be honest, but these were due to the amount charged being a few cents higher than what was intended to be sent and presumably then more than was available. For instance changetipping $1 comes up as charging $1.01 sometimes. As u/-solus- figured out: "Apparently you send currency based on pockets and each pocket has a different currency. When you tip it automatically sends whatever's in the front pocket. The website automatically sets bitcoin as the front pocket, so while I'm trying to send us dollars, it keeps trying to pull from the bitcoin pocket which is empty. All I had to do was change the front pocket to us dollars. Problem solved." Might be worth making a note of this for future drawings.

Happy Easter/Weekend everyone!

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[–]TheNerdler 141ポイント142ポイント  (47子コメント)

66000 subscribers and 15000 comments for the drawing and we didn't even generate $2k. Frankly thats fucking abysmal.

[–]GrumpyGuss 69ポイント70ポイント  (7子コメント)

I'm subscribed, but like most other people, i forget this place even exists because it never makes it to my front page or r/all. Your active participants are a much smaller population

[–]Radioplay 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Hi-jacking the top comment here for a second.

Is there any possible way that we could set up a subcribtion for the drawing? I'd much rather have a $1 monthly deduction than have to go through the hassle of remembering to pay-pal every drawing (Once a month, I know.)

I think for a lot of people this would be far easier. Imagine if we could see the sub number on a website. Seeing "172,193 Subscribers this month" is HUGE in wanting to donate.

Anyway, I'm sure all of this is highly subject to fraud as I'm not sure of a way to ever really get around that other than direct donations so I guess that's why it hasn't been done.

Edit: I'm legally inept.

[–]phobiac 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

Nope. That would make it an actual lottery. It has to be entirely optional or it'd be illegal.

[–]Radioplay 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ah well that goes to show my legal knowledge then. Thanks for the information.

[–]phobiac 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's at least a couple of links in the sidebar regarding lotteries and why the sub has to operate the way it does. Unfortunately it's the best system that can be done without permits.

[–]ParticleSpinClass 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Put a reminder on your calendar? Happens the same time each month...

[–]ildun 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Correction: it happens every third Friday of the month.
If your calendar has an option to set a recurring event for every third Friday of the month (which may be the 20th one month, the 21th another month, or the 18th, etc.), that's indeed an option.
If, however, your calendar only has the option to set recurring events for, say, the 20th of each month, it gets a bit tricky.

Of course you can also just make individual events for every third Friday of the month in advance (which may have been what you meant, but "Happens the same time each month..." led me to think you meant recurring events. My apologies if I interpreted your comment incorrectly).

[–]ParticleSpinClass -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Still the "same time each month" :)

[–]digitalyss 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Several of the actual donors put in more than $1, too. Come on, everyone!

[–]casualelitist 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have been saying this the last 3 drawings. The more popular we got, the less % of people donated which in turn started dropping people's faith in the process. I hope it changes and I'm happy for any help we have generated for past winners, but the fact people are here to enter but don't donate that 1.00 is sad. That being said I'm not trying to white Knight a sub that is just fun for me, I did that for a bit and it made me more salty than happy to be a sub so I changed my mindset.

[–]polarityomg 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

I love the idea of this subreddit as a social experiment but mostly it just seems that people suck.

[–]zarzob 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

People really do suck. It's such a shame. If everyone were to enter and donate for a whole year that's a measly $12 for you, but such a huge different for 12 people.

[–]pharmorjac 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's a great idea if there were a place I could do that and enter multiple drawings i would.

[–]MsPollyPrissyPants 10ポイント11ポイント  (5子コメント)

Hate to say it but it should be changed that your donation for the last winner is an extra entry into the next draw for incentive to donate. But I don't know if that would constitute paying to enter which = lotto which we don't want.

[–]TheNerdler -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

No, your donation to the previous winner should be your only entry into the next drawing.

[–]MsPollyPrissyPants 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

That would make it a lotto and illegal

[–]AChimimunima 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

What about if you don't donate you get locked out for one drawing. Then is it not technically pay to enter? Could just be a lame shower thought.. I'm not even sure if it's possible to script that on here..or perhaps it's just too gray of an area in general.

[–]ildun 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Would be impossible to implement. How would you track donations made through non-public payment systems (PayPal being an example)? People who haven't commented on the winning thread could've still donated to the winner through other non-public means.

I do think your idea is a good one, but unfortunately it's impossible to reliably implement.

[–]alohrawr 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Someone should create a software or site that once you've sent your $1 it'll give you opinion to share your contribution to the social experiment on all social media platform...that way we get more exposure.

[–]Whitegard 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I didn't donate, yet i shamelessly entered. Don't have the funds right now. I'm new here and i totally forgot i subscribed until the last draw hit the front page, feel kinda dirty for entering anyway. Sorry.

I have decided to donate 10 dollars next time, and hopefully continue that trend, i'm not made of money but i think i can manage it :)

Edit: After reading the comments more, i found out i can still donate. I still don't have the funds, but OP can expect 10 dollars from me on the 1st of April! (And it won't be a joke)

[–]MartinMan2213 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

People love to talk the talk but when it comes to putting money where your mouth is, most fall short. I wish there was a way to donate $1 when you enter that way in order to be entered for the drawing you have to have already donated.

[–]Spartancfos 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

So a lottery?

[–]MartinMan2213 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea but I don't think those are technically legal which is why I wish we could do it.

[–]_ALLLLRIGHTY_THEN -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's what's called a lottery...

[–]HAWAll 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

In all fairness, it is free money

[–]digifork 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

The point of all this is not simply free money. The point of all this is if a million reddit users give $1 to a redditor, they can make him/her a millionaire. Given that we have 66,000 subscribers and <2000 donated, we would need more than 33 million subscribers at the current participation rate to make this happen.

That is, as the OP said, fucking abysmal.

[–]LiamGP 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've not been on here much since the drawing, I've donated now tho! Hopefully more people do the same.

[–]xcheet 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Many people don't donate because they "forget" to. I think the best way to eliminate this excuse is to require every entry to contain a message to the RemindMeBot. It's not 100% reliable and the drawing code would need to be modified, but I think it's worth a shot.

[–]NumenSD 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Maybe it's the false expectations? Change it to Thousandaire Makers and people might donate more.

[–]gosgood 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have thought about that too. MakeSomeonesDay might be better. A million is apparently a bit out of reach.

[–]Pilebsa 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unfortunately this shouldn't come as a surprise. A disproportionate reward based on the amount of effort, will attract people who are into minimum effort and maximum reward.

If someone launched a similar type of idea, but instead of the winner being randomy picked, it was a selection based on some activity or committment the person had been doing, you'd probably see a growing, instead of diminishing payoff. It's the nature of the dynamic Millionairemakers panders to.

Hope is an exciting, wonderful thing. Those chemicals that get released when we think of a sudden huge reward are quite pleasurable. But there is another type of feeling, albeit more rare, that doesn't just give you the same chemical cocktail, but a clearer purpose of vision. There is no substitute for setting a nice-sized goal and actually achieving it through hard work. If your "way out" is mostly predicated on having something magical happen, there is more you can do to take control of your own lottery. Once you realize that, the excitement makes random rewards pale in comparison.

[–]MurderJunkie 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ehhh I'm subscribed to this subreddit but I haven't participated for nearly a year now. I just recall the witch hunts and bullshit that happened with some of the earlier drawings and just decided it wasn't worth it.

[–]MetalHead_Literally 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yeah it's a pathetic turnout, but OP also didn't help himself by not using Google. I don't do the bitcoin thing and, although I will, I hate to pay the extra money for paypal.

[–]AChimimunima 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have you tried changetip? Use a Debit to fund it once (~$15 would last a year prolly at a dollar minimum and gives cushion) and you'll have the easiest way to donate.

[–]TheNerdler 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Let the winner pay Paypal. Make a donation so you pay the one or two bones and the fee comes out of that.

[–]xcheet 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

See this comment. OP didn't use Google Wallet because it only works in the US.

[–]Freeman001 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's why I always give $2, to make up for the other guy who doesn't.

[–]TheNerdler 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Which is why I give 5 and some give more but even that isn't really enough to cover for everyone else.

[–]Andruw25 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

That sucks. Guess the sub is dead. No reason to join the next one since over 10k people didn't tip. That's fucking terrible.

[–]PremiumGoose 19ポイント20ポイント  (3子コメント)

Is it too late to contribute? I've been away from home and just have my phone until Tuesday.

[–]MsPollyPrissyPants 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not at all. The original post has the winner's email for paypal

[–]KuriTokyo 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I believe you can still contribute to any of the previous winners.

If I'm wrong, hopefully someone will correct me.

[–]ildun 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is possible, indeed. In fact, that's exactly what I've done for some of the winners: I couldn't donate straight after the winning thread was made, but I promised myself I'd donate to them later, which I then did (in one case half a year later... Better late than never, I guess)

[–]Nightlime28 12ポイント13ポイント  (4子コメント)

So I just went and double checked and mine was listed as pocket error. I'll fix my changetip when I'm home from work later!

[–]MatlockJr 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

How do you check it?

[–]Nightlime28 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Congrats /u/Sannyn! /u/changetip, send $0.96. I think the issue is I don't have as much funds! Sorry for the delay, here's what I have!

[–]SannynSeventeenth Winner[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks a lot, I appreciate it!!

[–]ASpoonfulOfAwesome 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

Thanks for the update. Made me realize I didn't tip before. Have a $1 on me /u/changetip

[–]KuriTokyo 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Updates are a great idea. I really don't think I've seen a separate update like this from a previous winner.

I'd like to hear more about what they are doing now. I don't even care if they blew it all on coke. I just want to hear the story.

[–]ASpoonfulOfAwesome 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If they blew it all on coke, I want to hear the story even more.

[–]SannynSeventeenth Winner[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you very much! :)

[–]Leafy81 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm glad you made this post actually. I had forgotten to donate until now. Sorry about that. It's not much but I did promise $1.00

[–]SannynSeventeenth Winner[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you, makes no difference being a little late. I appreciate it :)

[–]IzeBerg 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Thanks for the update. Made me realize I didn't tip before. Have a $1 on me /u/changetip

[–]changetip 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sannyn received a tip for $1.00.

what is ChangeTip?

[–]SannynSeventeenth Winner[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks a lot <3

[–]vivalasvegas2 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just sent $6 (one for each day of forgetfulness) on Paypal. Sorry it took so long!

[–]SannynSeventeenth Winner[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damn, knew I should have waited a few more weeks ;) thanks a lot, I really appreciate it!

[–]toodleoo77 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks for the update!

[–]SannynSeventeenth Winner[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very welcome!

[–]BumFudhe 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was fun to participate, but even more fun to see that my $1 could be used for something cool. ! Hope you post your website.

[–]smack1114 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Thanks for the update. Made me realize I didn't tip before. Have a $1 on me /u/changetip

[–]changetip 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sannyn received a tip for 2,390 bits ($1.00).

what is ChangeTip?

[–]SannynSeventeenth Winner[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you very much!

[–]bsootha 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

JUST SENT MY $27 bucks

[–]SannynSeventeenth Winner[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow, that's really really awesome of you! Thanks so much. Should break $2k now then :)

[–]MsPollyPrissyPants 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Excited for you! Can't wait to see the websites! Don't forget about your travel app ;)

[–]nspectre 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Good point about having to change the front and back wallets.

$1 /u/changetip

[–]SannynSeventeenth Winner[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you! :)

[–]myndsplyntur 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks for the update, just sent u some cash thru PayPal

[–]SannynSeventeenth Winner[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cool thanks, I appreciate it :)

[–]ccla 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for the update, please do post the website, keen to see it.

[–]haroldkumar89 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for the update. Have a $1 on me /u/changetip

[–]tallnginger 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Forgot the first one!

Changetip! $1

[–]SannynSeventeenth Winner[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you very much!

[–]ildun 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just in case you're not familiar with how Changetip works on here, this is how you do it:

/u/changetip €1

(change "€1" to anything you want. Can be "$1", or "a beer", or "a coffee", or "a high-five". Log into changetip.com and refer to the list of monikers on the right for the available monikers and their prices)

EDIT: Erm... Could you pass that on to /u/Sannyn for me?

[–]somedude456 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

****, I forgot. :( I just sent $2. That covers me and someone else.

[–]SannynSeventeenth Winner[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks to both of you then :)

[–]ticklemecthulhu 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

This also helped me remember to contribute! Thanks for posting an update

[–]SannynSeventeenth Winner[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are very welcome, and thanks! :)

[–]supah 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yea man, edit your donation post too.

[–]SannynSeventeenth Winner[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Done.

[–]hippywitchgoddess 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Officially requesting shameless plugs/random updates:)

[–]Inane_ramblings 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

I forgot to donate Can I still do it?

[–]resting_parrot 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yes. PayPal information is in the winner post linked in the sidebar. If you use changetip you can just make a parent comment in this post.

Edit: Looks like the post isn't in the sidebar yet for some reason. Here is the post.

[–]Inane_ramblings 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Neat, Just did 2 bucks!

[–]SannynSeventeenth Winner[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you! :)

[–]mehoff88 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

What is your paypal, I want, errrrrr, owe you money!

[–]SannynSeventeenth Winner[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha, its in the original post :)

[–]scottyb1001 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Missed the comp again due to poor visibility. Congrats on the win! $1 /u/changetip

[–]SannynSeventeenth Winner[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks a lot!

[–]tallnginger 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

/u/changetip $2

Because I messed up the first time! Thanks /u/ildun!

[–]SannynSeventeenth Winner[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks a lot to both of you :)

[–]ildun 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're welcome :) (and you too, /u/tallnginger)

[–]monstergeek 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Darn. Happy for you though dude. How does it feel? Tell us :O .

[–]amnesiac-eightyfour 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks for the update. Wish you well with all your plans!

[–]SannynSeventeenth Winner[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks a lot!

[–]ShadyState 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

$5 worth of bitcoin inbound. Sorry I'm late to the party

[–]SannynSeventeenth Winner[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Awesome, thank you very much!

[–]ShadyState 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just remember to keep the dream alive in the next draw! Cheers!

[–]elysiansaurus 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I completely forgot to donate, sent you 3 bucks on paypal.

[–]SannynSeventeenth Winner[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks a lot :) appreciated!

[–]Gamechamp 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Bitcoin purchase and lots of pizza made lateness. Have fun~

[–]SannynSeventeenth Winner[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you! :)

[–]kolomana 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just sent $5 via paypal. I just about forgot about this.

[–]SannynSeventeenth Winner[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks a lot, really appreciated! Have a great day!

[–]nederhoed 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just sent you €10 in bitcoins. Good luck setting up your new business!

[–]SannynSeventeenth Winner[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's awesome of you, thank you so much :)

[–]lookn_glas_shrd 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks so much for the update, and also for the awesome stat info :) And finally, here's the 2636 bits /u/changetip I meant to send last week. Keep up the excellent work, I look forward to reading your future updates!

[–]SannynSeventeenth Winner[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you very much!! Glad you enjoyed it