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[–]MobiusBoner 152ポイント153ポイント  (32子コメント)

Where were these NeoGAF people when Josh Olin got fired? Oh right they didn't care, and were cheering for him, because he wasn't aligned with their belief system.

[–]Gafsucksalot2 80ポイント81ポイント  (15子コメント)

Here's a lone sane poster in all the madness: https://archive.is/3DEOy

I want to have a careful discussion on this whole thing, because my past leaves me somewhat volatile on this subject matter, but... having read her work and seen some of her tweets... I'm honestly left wondering why anyone's on her side. I'm not seeing anyone discrediting the claims made against her, just going "well, GG wanted it, so it's wrong." I don't like GG at all (I've got plenty of GG hate because of my work for Kotaku), but... I dunno. I don't see how the things she's saying are the defensible.

Again, I wouldn't have wanted her to be fired. But seriously, how much common sense do you have to lack to not realize that posting tweets involving the use of phrases such as "lowering the age of consent" without any context is not such a good idea?

[–]chugga_fantrained in gorilla warfare 40ポイント41ポイント  (2子コメント)

countdown until he's banned starting now

[–]nizochan 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm sure that they'll try to get him fired for his completely inappropriate and socially incompatible views on the subject.

Top Kek.

[–]JustALittleGravitas 18ポイント19ポイント  (6子コメント)

it's not just the lack of sense, it's that she's PR. At that point you've crossed from 'this employee needs to be talked to about what they say on the same account they talk about the company with' to 'this person does not have the vaguest fucking clue how to do his/her job'. If she was a translator or a character designer or whatever I'd blast Nintendo for this decision, but she's not.

It's like, if somebody is an anti vaxxer you'd never fire them for that right? But if somebody were an anti-vaxxer and a doctor, you'd probably fire them for that.

That's on top of the fact that her statements were under scrutiny in the first place because she antagonized people when her job is to not antagonize people. This isn't just an anti vaxxer doctor, this is an anti vaxxer doctor who doesn't wash his/her hands at work.

[–]thoughtsat1am [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If someone was an anti-vaxxer and in a public-facing job, much less marketing or PR, and was also visibly and vocally carrying on a discussion about being anti-vax, that person probably would lose their job.

[–]HowAboutShutUp 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nobody even responded, that I could see. The amount of dumb in that thread is mind-boggling.

[–]Xanthan81 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's like if a grade school teacher took pictures of her drunk bender, then put them on Facebook where her students she could them. You just don't do it.

Actually, there was a teacher who got fired for a vacation photo, where she was holding a glass of wine. Not drunk, not drinking the wine, just holding it. And she got fired because she had students on her friends list & the school deamed them inappropriate.

If you work for a company that is so heavily geared towards kids, YOU DON'T SAY WE SHOULD LOWER THE AGE OF CONSENT!! It makes you AND the company look bad! Of course they fired her ass!

[–]La_M3r [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Doc Seuss seemed like good people, who unfortunately had some real rough times in his life and maintained a pretty positive outlook despite how much shit kicked him in the teeth. I remember him not taking nonsense from a Jezebel cross over poster when they claimed he had white male privilege during the John Scalzi "White men have it totes easy, y'all" debacle.

[–]NeoNGANGSTA56k Get Party! Diversity Expert with a CoC 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh look, NeoFag is having another tantrum. Almost as common as rain in London.

[–]RaoulDukeff 57ポイント58ポイント  (5子コメント)

These morons have REPEATEDLY supported witchhunts to specifically lay off people because they were politically incorrect. Not racist, just not adhering to their retarded dogmas.

The place is such a pathetic hugbox that the people who disagree with that fucked up mentality are often banned too. This is the forum that argued that Hulk Hogan deserved to have his career and life destroyed by the Gawker scum because he is a racist.

But complaining about an idiot and her pedo narrative is not OK, guys. Won't anyone think of the pedos? God, I fucking love that this shithole is quickly dying.

[–]AntonioOfVeniceRuns /r/polygon \ Karma King of late April 2015[🍰] 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not racist, just not adhering to their retarded dogmas.

One of which is that the word 'retarded' is the 'r-slur' and that if you use that word, you're guilty of the made up term 'ableism'. They would probably try to get you fired for this very comment.

[–]AFCSentinelDidn't survive cyberviolence. RIP In Peace 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Showing once again the double standards of games media. Josh Olin just said that people should have a right to privacy in their homes, even if said people are old bigots not aware it's [CURRENT YEAR] but basically granting an old bigot basic human rights was beyond the pale and got a proper witch hunt going with the games press just too gladly chiming in until he got fired.

And then we have a PR representative that is openly stating that possession of CP shouldn't be criminalised (completely ignoring how the victims must feel about it), a PR representative for a super family friendly company, a PR representative that has contact to children in her role and somehow firing her is toppest of harams with journo tears flowing freely about how a stunning and brave woman was silenced/run out of the industry/etc.

I didn't want Allison fired and I think Nintendo made the wrong call. But boy, when I started getting involved with GG 1 1/2 year ago to advocate for better standards in the way games are covered, I wasn't asking for them to be doubled.

[–]Spike__Jonze 267ポイント268ポイント  (66子コメント)

Neogaf is having a meltdown. I like how they act like we're a almost non-existent movement while at the same time putting the entire blame on GG when it behooves them.

[–]wordsofivory 64ポイント65ポイント  (6子コメント)

Rapp got herself fired. Nobody else.

The kind of public remarks she was making were well outside the bounds of what someone in her position should be saying. It's basic professionalism.

I absolutely won't applaud anyone losing a job. It's not a good experience. But I absolutely understand why Nintendo wouldn't want her representing their company.

[–]aDAMNPATRIOT 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Can you give me a basic rundown ml

[–]wordsofivory 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh man, I wouldn't even know where to start...

This thread has most of the answers.

[–]HotPandaLove 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

What was she saying? I've completely missed this juiciness

[–]twomongsmakearight 197ポイント198ポイント  (16子コメント)

We're gonna need a bigger truck for all this salt

Edit: This one is my favourite. NeoGAF member wants Jamie Walton (who works for a charity aimed at protecting children from abuse, and was herself abused repeatedly) to be "sued" because a pedo-apologist PR agent for a video game company got fired. Talk about having your priorities in life skewed. You really can't make this shit up.

Edit 2: Because why not

ATTENTION NEOGAF

Try this little experiment: Send a link of Alison's thesis (pay particular attention to page 45), as well as these images where she explicitly defends pedophilia, to your friends and family outside NeoGAF and gaming circles. Be sure to tell them that you personally agree with her views and think that what she wrote is perfectly acceptable to post on a public social media feed, that directly links to her company (which makes games aimed almost exclusively for children). Do it and let us know what their reaction is, because I can't wait to see your world shatter when you realise people outside the stupid gaming culture war don't react how your echo chamber does when it comes to matters like sexualising children.

I always said that we'd reach a critical point where lines are drawn so deep and people become so entrenched in their views, that they are willing to defend the most depraved, hideous things, just to keep people on "their side" of the argument from being held accountable for their actions. This is twice now that they've defended pedophiles and pedo apologists. How much lower can they possibly go?

Here's the reality for you fruitcakes: Nintendo didn't drop Alison because of gamergate. They don't give a fuck about gamergate or nerds obsessing over culture wars. What they DO give a shit about is when a charity like The Wayne Foundation (that deals with child sexual abuse victims) contacts them, sharing their concerns that one of their employees is promoting highly inappropriate views about child pornography laws, whilst directly linking to their company/brand on social media. Absolutely NO company would tolerate this, let alone one that deals almost exclusively with games aimed at children. That's why she was dropped. Not because of this non-existant GG boogeyman. Jesus christ, rejoin the real fucking world.

[–]flux1 68ポイント69ポイント  (1子コメント)

This the same website that had a moderator tell a child abuse victim that she shouldn't post in a topic about the subject because her opinion would be biased.

[–]Cyberguy64 29ポイント30ポイント  (0子コメント)

Every opinion is biased. I'd rather hear from someone who knows what they're taking about and admits where they stand then someone who knows nothing but acts like an authority.

[–]SysRootErr 83ポイント84ポイント  (1子コメント)

Honestly, watching NeoGaf have a meltdown over this has made my day. They can't even and it's glorious to behold.

[–]Davillage 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

Even if it menstruates they are stupid if they achieve it to go mainstream they all will look like pieces of shit for defending pedophilia advocacy by proxy.

[–]SarcasticJoeSpecial Jaeger with over 300 confirmed kills 40ポイント41ポイント  (1子コメント)

Going trough the posts in that topic caused me to think to myself: "Is this real? Can they really be this fanatic and generally detached from reality?".

Then I remembered the early days of GG and all the screenshots I saw of them banning people for just being neutral on the topic of GG or daring to point out how the site was quickly turning into an echo chamber because of these bans made on purely ideological grounds. We're essentially talking about Tumblr on steroids about a year and a half on.

[–]RaoulDukeff 40ポイント41ポイント  (4子コメント)

The retards are trying to get the pedo rehired by contacting Nintendo. I suggest contracting Nintendo too to voice your support for the decision.

Btw, weekly reminder that neogaf is dying: http://i.imgur.com/1BOztI2.png Couldn't have happened to a shittier site.

[–]ApplicableSongLyricWe provide... leverage. 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

why are those numbers ascending as it goes do-

oh that's rank. okay.

[–]3happy5u 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bunch of delusional fools, the Neogaf reaction makes me 100% sure that nintendo canning her was justified.

[–]dthrulu 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your edit is funny considering these nutjobs are frequently making threads saying how they want to stop speaking to people close to them because they're "racist" or "sexist" based on their idiotic standards.

[–]Bhaldund_Ahldankasyn 53ポイント54ポイント  (1子コメント)

We exist when it is convenient. Kind of like how George Zimmerman morphs from being a hispanic to a white guy at random times to fit various narratives in the media.

[–]awxvn 64ポイント65ポイント  (12子コメント)

Glad at least some people on NeoGAF understands what happened.

https://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=199671660&postcount=620 (edit: another one and here)

GG brought it into light (her own thesis and tweets), but her position as outspoken Nintendo PR was untenable given her outspoken views on (fictional) child porn. I'm sure many people in GG agree with her views, but that's really not the kind of person Nintendo would want representing their company. NeoGAF likes to think it happened because she was a woman in the video game industry, but a man outspoken about CP while employed as Nintendo marketing would have been fired too.

edit: the interesting part about this situation on NeoGAF is that if Rapp were to post on NeoGAF defending her views about CP, she'd get lumped in with GG and banned right away, like many others. Some posters are having trouble reconciling her "disgusting" views with wanting to defend Rapp for being fired. https://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=199673588&postcount=798

[–]TheGameWonk 82ポイント83ポイント  (8子コメント)

[–]BlackBison 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

I admit it. I was the one who moved the stairs muffin.

To be fair, I was upset after being demoted from shower doughnut duty.

[–]JD-King 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

That high angle profile pic is the icing on this disgusting cake.

[–]kopkaas2000 41ポイント42ポイント  (1子コメント)

We made their chicken smell bad. We are worse than ISIS.

Every fiber of my being wants to shout at me about how juvenile that comic is. But I can't help but tear up every time I get to the stairs muffin.

[–]TheHebrewHammers 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

we moved their stair muffin to the wrong stair, literally worse than 10 mecha-Hitlers

[–]Suithar 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just noticed the speech bubble pointer is a dick and balls...lol

[–]pcor 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be honest, you could make the same comic and replace "gamergate" with "SJWs" as the target of ire and it would be no less accurate about a certain section of people.

[–]iiBuzz7S 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

NeoGAF also don't (or didn't) seem to have an issue with Opiate, a former admin who lost his "job" for telling a victim of sexual abuse that her opinion/s are blurred, in a topic about a paedophile or paedophiles.

Questionable uploads were found linked to back to him, but nothing really came of it.

[–]Z_for_Zontar 80ポイント81ポイント  (6子コメント)

We're their Zionist conspiracy

[–]King-Achelexus 26ポイント27ポイント  (3子コメント)

Immature idiots always need to create some boggeyman conspiracy to blame for their failures.

[–]MLGShitLord 42ポイント43ポイント  (2子コメント)

Like the patriarchy.

[–]AntonioOfVeniceRuns /r/polygon \ Karma King of late April 2015[🍰] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Like the patriarchy? We ARE the patriarchy!

[–]theroachsays 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

Inb4 an FBI investigation nets a massive child porn ring on NeoGAF.

[–]therealdanhill 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Figures they would support someone with her views. I love that there is nothing they can do about it but sit on their asses stewing and shouting into an echo chamber. How incredibly impotent.

[–]blobbybag 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

In some ways, Im happy Gaf exists, as it quarantines a lot of crazy. On the other hand, they get banned so often there, that they tend to migrate.

[–]twomongsmakearight 207ポイント208ポイント  (34子コメント)

Look, I get no pleasure in watching people get fired for their political views, but Nintendo has built their brand on being a children/family friendly company. Just look at their IP's. There's no chance in hell that Nintendo wants someone working for them who would even entertain the notion of defending pedophiles, regardless of how nuanced her view on the subject may be.

It's just not something you'd ever, ever want associating with your brand. Multiply this a million-fold if that brand is trying to sell directly to kids/parents in the first place. That's suicide.

[–]AFCSentinelDidn't survive cyberviolence. RIP In Peace 89ポイント90ポイント  (5子コメント)

If Nintendo are going to censor anything even remotely whiffing of loli or lewd for the West then I fully expect them to apply the same standards to their employees. Mind you, in the optimal universe Allison keeps her job and I get proper and faithful game localisations with no censorship but if we gotta live in the fucked up timeline...

[–]ineedanacct 21ポイント22ポイント  (7子コメント)

and her view isn't very "nuanced" since she proposes legalizing consumption of child porn (leaving only the production illegal).

[–]JD-King 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just realized that there is probably already enough material for that to be a possibility and now I'm sick :(

[–]sodiummuffin 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

No, she never said that explicitly. She only argued that laws on possession alone should be more lax or law enforcement shouldn't focus on it in an unspecified way. The only thing she explicitly said should be outright legal to posses was drawings.

leaving only the production illegal

She explicitly argued distribution should be fully illegal as well.

[–]2-4601 13ポイント14ポイント  (10子コメント)

Nintendo has built their brand on being a children/family friendly company. Just look at their IP's

Apart from one.

EDIT: Published only, but still notable for being approved.

[–]deadlyhabit 21ポイント22ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's a 3rd party IP, same thing with MadWorld.

[–]___HIGH_ENERGY___ 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Didn't Nintendo fund most of Bayonetta 2

[–]deadlyhabit 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fund for exclusivity rights in the same way Demon Souls or Bloodborne were funded by Sony for exclusivity rights, but most will argue are still From Software's IP.

[–]ApplicableSongLyricWe provide... leverage. 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

expanded image

wasn't Splatoon

DISAPPOINT

[–]twomongsmakearight 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, adults are part of the family too!

[–]BlackBison 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's like working as PR for a lung cancer charity and tweeting, "I think that the legal smoking age should be lowered to 13. More kids need to start smoking.", then getting surprised when you get kicked to the curb.

[–]AnchovyKiedis 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pro child victimization isn't really a political view.

[–]B-VOLLEYBALL-READYSuffers from painful masturbation syndrome 88ポイント89ポイント  (15子コメント)

Jesse Singal chips in.

https://archive.is/m4x5W

really sorry to hear that. writing up a thing about this gross episode. hit me up if you'd like to toss me a quote or two

Hitpiece incoming.

[–]MLGShitLord 62ポイント63ポイント  (3子コメント)

How much do you want to bet they don't cover why she was fired, and it's just about "GG horsemint."

[–]SixtyFours 20ポイント21ポイント  (2子コメント)

Klepek's looking to write one up as well. https://archive.is/tkv96

[–]garybuseysawakeninglISten And beLIEve is a lie 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's up.

[–]GTDesperado [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

And of course it's as apologetic as possible. At least he mentions her pro-pedophilia position before dismissing it.

[–]ApplicableSongLyricWe provide... leverage. 69ポイント70ポイント  (3子コメント)

gross gross gross gross gross gross gross

children rushing to the aid of a pedo apologist.

You can't make this stuff up.

[–]BlackBison 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

SJW's will defend apologists like butts, Olson, and Rapp to the death, as long as they keep pushing the aGGro narrative.

[–]Chaoslux 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

SJW's will defend... butts

Except when they're fictional or otherwise not a threat to children.

[–]BlackBison 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I cannot understand the logic that goes through the heads of SJWs sometimes.

Real life woman gleefully advocating the loosening of CP laws while representing a company with a large customer base of children? No biggie!

Pixelated woman looking over her shoulder in a pose similar to her male counterparts? OMG THIS IS GOING TO MAKE MY CHILDREN GO ON RAPING SPREES! SHUT IT DOWN NOW!

[–]AnchovyKiedis 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh good old Jesse, always writing about that totally irrelevant movement that no one cares about over and over and over.

[–]LordDivo 67ポイント68ポイント  (1子コメント)

I love that when Feminists get people fired from their jobs for their speech, they completely deny any responsibility, saying things like "free speech isn't freedom from consequences" and "their employer made the decision, we didn't get them fired."

But when it's a Feminist who gets fired for their speech, they're the victim of a targeted campaign of harassment and their employer firing them is discrimination and evidence of a sexist and patriarchal culture.

Fuck these cunts.

[–]SixtyFours 108ポイント109ポイント  (13子コメント)

Just a reminder that there's still a fundraiser for the Wayne Foundation after this all started so if you're interested in donating, please do. https://www.crowdrise.com/searchlightforthelost/fundraiser/loping

[–]Tar_Alacrin 28ポイント29ポイント  (9子コメント)

I thought the Wayne Foundation was a batman thing?

[–]SixtyFours 25ポイント26ポイント  (5子コメント)

It was named after Batman. Here's their About page.

[–]Tar_Alacrin 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh way cool. Big fan of what they do, and of batman, I'm gonna try to find some money to help support

[–]Javaed 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

Wait... are you implying that famed billionaire Bruce Wayne is Batman?

[–]Tar_Alacrin 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

No no thats ridiculous! What I mean is that I've heard batman operates in gotham, which is of course where wayne enterprises is based.

[–]ElysiumTan 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Waiting on redbubble to pay me so I can chip in at least 50 buckaroonies

[–]deadlyhabit 47ポイント48ポイント  (4子コメント)

I don't get why people seem to have this disconnect that things said on a publicly linked social media/forum/account can have a real world consequence when brought to light.

It's why devs, artists, businesses, etc often have separate public accounts while maintaining private accounts for other things. Hell even Anita is smart enough to do this.

[–]Kirlen 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ask Mr. "rape of a 4 year old" about consequences.

[–]cjackc 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why would someone in marketing be expected to understand such a thing /s

[–]Zero_Beat_Neo 25ポイント26ポイント  (1子コメント)

First my DoAX3 Saikyo package arrives, then someone arguing for decriminalization of child porn gets fired, and the new Babymetal album comes out Friday.

Good week so far.

[–]overbose 27ポイント28ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sad. I wish she had been fired for entirely different reasons unrelated to stuff she said outside of work, when there were so many fireable offenses directly related to her conduct towards customers and fans.

On the other hand, maybe I can hold the smallest inkling of a hope of a wisp of a chance that these shitheads will finally begin to rethink their strategy of getting people fired from jobs for opinions entirely irrelevant to their position now that they see it can be equally used against them.

[–]YurilicaPurple, White, and Green 80ポイント81ポイント  (3子コメント)

You know what?

Good.

Being a PR rep who speaks positively about pedophilia and berates any and all customers with complaints, is not a good combo.

Even if you completely remove the pro-pedo shit out of that equation, she utterly failed at her job.

Here's hoping someone more capable now works instead of her.

[–]MulligantawnySoup 47ポイント48ポイント  (2子コメント)

The pro pedophillia stance was one thing, but yeah, she should have been shitcanned a long time ago simply because she used her employer as a soapbox to smear potential customers based on her own political bias. She was literally doing the opposite of what she was paid to do, and was more interested in promoting herself than her company.

How she lasted this long amazes me. It's not like she's an artist who delivers a product that can't be replicated 1:1. PR people are ten a penny.

The only sad thing is that now she's been martyred, she'll be on the victimbux train for life and walk straight into a SocJus approved position elsewhere. Unlike regular human beings, she's completely insulated from any and all consequences in life due to her credentials in the cult. Ironic, considering the amount of time she spends railing about the concept of privilege in others.

[–]YurilicaPurple, White, and Green 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly.

As for her pro-pedo commentary, that is probably 75% of the reason why she was fired, to be fair. If she was on a review for JUST her customer berating behavior, she would've been transferred, or just received a slap on the wrist.

She managed to piss off even non-customers with her pro-pedo commentary, on the same account she posted her Nintendo PR stuff.

You can only be dumb enough for so long before it bites you back in the ass. When you have both customers and non-customers pissed at you, they'll go for your exposed jugular.

And who exposed it? She herself did.

She managed to piss off even non-customers with her pro-pedo commentary, on the same account she posted her Nintendo PR stuff, before and during the Fire Emblem: Fates shitstorm.

I don't feel sorry for her. I don't see any angle from which her firing is not completely justified for Nintendo. Good riddance, and may someone more capable take over her job.

[–]TheHebrewHammers 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ive heard dime a dozen- seems I over paid for mine

[–]ApplicableSongLyricWe provide... leverage. 127ポイント128ポイント  (18子コメント)

People decrying this need to also remember that she vocally was FOR censorship in games, full stop. Cancerous.

Advocating the possession of child pornography, not drawings, mind, as tweets made clear, while simultaneously giving people shit for headpats in a videogame is what got a target trained on her, rightfully so.

Anti-censorship for her own private fetishes and interests, censorship for everyone else for what is in vogue to serve her, plus power mixed in with it.

May it serve as a lesson for ALL of these fucking crybullies.

[–]DestroyedArkana 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm happy to see her go because from what I've seen she's not very good at her job. If she was unfairly fired then she should contact a lawyer, but I doubt that's the case. Hopefully she finds a different job that suits her more.

[–]Aurondarklord 56ポイント57ポイント  (3子コメント)

While I disapprove of some of the rhetoric used against her, because let's face it, her college thesis has no bearing on her qualifications for employment as a PR rep, she clearly was failing in her job in that she allowed her political biases to so completely dominate her interaction with fans that she alienated large segments of her community, who were convinced, right or wrong, that they were being willfully ignored. In such, the PR rep became the SOURCE of Nintendo getting bad PR, which frankly is proof in itself she was bad at her job, and shouldn't be in that role.

[–]cool_boy_mew 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

This, the whole episode was amazingly mishandled by her, and handling problems like this is her goddamn job

[–]NixonForBreadsident 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

her college thesis has no bearing on her qualifications for employment as a PR rep

I would say when your job is public relations then fucking YES your public personal life relates to your job.

[–]NeoNGANGSTA56k Get Party! Diversity Expert with a CoC 19ポイント20ポイント  (6子コメント)

Ok this is the straw that broke the camels back. Gamergaters need to be removed from this planet.

It ends tonight! XD

[–]AcherosIs fake journalism | Is a prophet | Victim of grave injustice 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

We dun goofed

[–]NeoNGANGSTA56k Get Party! Diversity Expert with a CoC 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

How do you think they are going to remove us from the planet?

[–]AcherosIs fake journalism | Is a prophet | Victim of grave injustice 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Backtracing our IPs and reporting us to the cyber police.

[–]Krimsinx 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cry harassment and let loose the hounds of "equality".

[–]vivianjamesplay 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just want people to prepare when Nintendo tries to do damage control and save face by making GG the villain. I hope it doesn't come to this, but it's a possibility.

[–]calibrono 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Also lol at r/games mods deleting all the evidence of her being a pedo. Kotaku links and "she was a target of harassment" is OK tho.

Edit: ahaha 'oh shit, the evidence is being posted everywhere, quickly, delete the thread because suddenly rule 7.4'. My sides.

[–]RaraaraSnowflake Herder 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

We don't know if she's an actual pedo, but she sure is a pedo enabler.

[–]Naoto_Ito 31ポイント32ポイント  (6子コメント)

Protip: Don't post your "nuanced" pro child porn thoughts (or defend pedophiles) on your company PR account. Especially if said company's main audience is children.

The more you know.

[–]Helium_PugilistProbably sarcastic, at least snarky 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

meh, and tbh, i say this as someone who had no involvement in Allisons firing, WE were not the ones who decided that peoples employment were fair game...

[–]CrankyDClown 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Person running a anti-child trafficking organization calls for someone to get fired.

GAMERGATE DID IT.

Notch up another one for the generic boogeyman I guess.

[–]easymodeonly 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

I personaly don't like this. I hate it when people go after each others jobs but sjw's are the ones that made up the rules. You live by the sword you die by the sword... I guess.

[–]Niridas 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

what's with all the pedos in the SJW gang? -.-

[–]MysticJoJo 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everyone on Rapp's side is trying to claim that this is because GG blames her for the removal of Xenoblade's boob slider, rather than her open advocacy for child porn on an account that proudly proclaims her position at Nintendo. If that were the case, why is the boob slider not back in the game? If nintendo cared that much about fan input, they'd surely put it back in BEFORE canning a scapegoat.

[–]musashi_mercutioSpaghettis in Japanese 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can't say I'm not surprised. The fact that she doubled down when the Wayne Foundation got involved instead of straighten up her act speaks volumes to why she was let go. She also should have seen the writing on the wall with NoA cutting out the fat from a lot of other departments, Product Testing specifically, and didn't think it wouldn't apply to her. Nintendo is going through a rough patch (in comparison to their money printing days with the DS and Wii) and anything that will drive away customers and effect sales negatively is a guaranteed way to get upper management to pay attention to you.

She has my condolences for being fired, and hopefully she'll grow and learn from the experience to be a better person and be better at her job.

[–]Tratex 20ポイント21ポイント  (3子コメント)

Even after Jesse Singal was attacked by the same sjws, he returns back for seconds. He's a glutton for punishment

https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/715291033710510081

[–]cha0stat tvam asi 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Pretty sure he's been beaten back into compliance

[–]Tratex 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Muh stockholm syndrome.

[–]BlackBison 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Another poor schmuck cutting off his balls in hopes of proving his worthiness to be reinstated into the SJW clique.

If he was smart, he'd use this opportunity to re-evaluate his life, like IMC did.

[–]Neumayer23 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

Another example of double standards by feminists/SJWs. If that guy who made the punch sarkeesian game gets his life ruined because they speak to his actual/potential employer about what he gets up to in his free time, that ain't their fault as its his actions that put him in such a predicament in the first place and they just delivered the message.

If the same thing happens to one of them however, shitstorm ensues. Now, people who have done the exact same thing they've did many, many times in the past (notifying an employer about their employee stance on a such a delicate subject) now, that's suddenly our fault. It's not Mrs. Rapp's fault that she advocates child pornography, now the fault is of people with enough common sense to actually understand that someone supporting something incredibly wrong both morally and legally such as kid pornography, doesn't belong in a corporation that is family oriented. Makes sense, not.

[–]ragqizith 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

One thing to keep in mind: She wasn't fired because of thoughtcrime, but because it was part of her job do be a decent representative of Nintendo. As such, she should have separated her personal and professional life. Of course, she is free to voice controversial opinions, but if she does so on an account linked to her profession (explicitly in her profile description and implicitly in her tweets), she failed to do her job. This is exactly why pseudonymity and anonymity are so important for free speech. (Though Nintendo's reaction might have been different, if she tweeted under her real name without ties to her profession.)

[–]Tratex 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

Freedom of speech is not without consequences, SJWs! :D

[–]TheMindUnfetteredGrand Poobah of GamerGate 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not surprising. No matter what Nintendo might think of the validity of the complaint against her, their first priority is covering their own ass, which given the large hue and outcry over this made her being fired almost a forgone conclusion.

Which is why, of course, these sort of campaigns work. You do not need to be right, just loud.

[–]BlueThunderBomb 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shame she lost her job, but she was absolutely just cancerous.

[–]AN4RCHID 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeh... I don't support her being fired over her views, but if you're hired as PR for a company isn't it implicit that you don't drag the brand into public shit-flinging? That seems like the most likely reason for her dismissal, especially considering she wasn't fired when people found out about her out-there views, but only after she continued waging an internet war with the @NintendoAmerica handle in her bio right next to all her obnoxious tweets. That just seems... dumb?

[–]aly-san 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not happy that she is out of a job. But she was not good at the job she had. She was a PR rep for a huge, family-oriented company, and not only did she vocally and unapologetically voice controversial opinions on, essentially, her work twitter, but she also insulted the userbase of the company she worked for. She was a detriment to Nintendo's brand, and Nintendo should protect themselves from any harm she may bring.

I hope she is able to get a job more fitting of her views and behavior. This was not the job for her.

[–]ToastedCoffee 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

"views are my own" doesn't mean you can say stupid shit as a rep of a company. What did she expect would happen?

[–]Gnokey 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Couldn't happen to a nicer person.

Might as well get a list going of all the people hounded out of jobs for reasons of social justice before they start going on about what a horrible thing this is we've done. I think the guy who started #notyourshield was and it happened before he said something very odd in public.

[–]Reejis99 7ポイント8ポイント  (23子コメント)

Hello from /r/all. What is this? What does it have to do with gamergate?

[–]SwearWords 9ポイント10ポイント  (20子コメント)

Alison was a PR person who would shit on gamers and consumers who made complaints about shitty localizations of Nintendo games ("localization" is sometimes used as a tool for censorship, which is one of the issues under the GG umbrella).

Someone found out she wrote a thesis & tweeted in favor of relaxing child porn laws, and defended a pedophile arrested for possession child porn. The Wayne Foundation (charity for stopping pedophilia and human trafficking) caught wind and called Nintendo out for having a pedophilia advocate working in a position where she might interact with children.

So long story short, someone who sucks at her job made Nintendo look bad went and got shitcanned.

[–]don_don002 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're all gonna be losing their shit about how "GG went out and got her fired on purpose", when this is EXACTLY WHAT THEY DO to people who disagree with them. In this case the decision at least made sense from a business standpoint, regardless of your position on it

[–]Polygros 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Was "Gamergate" the problem or the fact she shitposted approximatively 33 tweets/a day since 6 years ?

Shitposting directly under your name with the name of your employeer in your bio when you work in PR for a company who relies A LOT on PR to seel is just plainly stupid. You played you lost...

[–]Bhaldund_Ahldankasyn 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

Remind me what this person did again. Also being fired for political views is weird, but if she worked in PR I can understand it. You can't say whatever you want when you represent the public face of a company.

[–]supergtt 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

She did work in PR. Anyone who works for nintendo should know better than to act like she did.

[–]Bhaldund_Ahldankasyn 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'm not going to revel in her firing like some are, but people need to learn that there are consequences for their actions. If she blames Gamergate for this she will not learn a thing.

[–]supergtt 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm not reveling but I understand why nintendo did it. If had been some other random who hadn't built up years of sjw virtue signalling, no fucks would be given by anyone.

[–]Bhaldund_Ahldankasyn 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

Just goes to show you that all that virtue signaling isn't worth shit if your boss isn't in your cult.

[–]supergtt 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yep. And it doesn't really matter to anyone who doesn't think Twitter is real life. Seems to be a problem with sjws in particular. They seem to think that social media is a totally separate reality or something.

[–]BlackBison 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

A lot of these Social Justice Whiners have been protected by the hipster cocoon built around them, so they're deluded into thinking that the whole world will also fall in line to their whims.

[–]jlaw_is_katniss 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

The best thing about this is that the irony is lost upon them. They are so salty about GG using social media to get this 'innocent' woman fired, when feminists are the ones that started with the social media smearing campaigns to get men fired for things that they don't agree with.

[–]gnarwhaler 27ポイント28ポイント  (17子コメント)

Honestly, if it was because of the thesis she wrote that was dug up about a month ago, I think she would've already been canned for that, companies are quick to act on that kind of thing.

I always hate seeing people getting fired, I hope she finds work soon.

[–]DestroyedArkana 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have to agree. I'd bet the decision was more because of Rapp's attitude and personality than anything, but that's only from an outside perspective. Who knows the actual reason for the decision.

[–]Streetfoldsfive 5ポイント6ポイント  (11子コメント)

What was the thesis?

[–]Davillage 22ポイント23ポイント  (10子コメント)

Basically that we should decriminalize ownership and distribution of in particular but not exclusive drawn child pronography.

She later clarified that and eliminated any plausible denyabillity when she referenced her thesis on twitter as response to a mass owner of real CP getting busted and incarcerated.

[–]profdeadpool 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Link to those tweets?

[–]Davillage 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here this stuff and there are dozens more like those and her thesis.

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This kind of legal bullshit pisses me off http://bit.ly/qbf22r (read my IR thesis before you go hatin' on me, kthnx).

[–]2-4601 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

Is that so bad? Drawn CP does not require any sexual abuse to create, and if it lets pedos get their jollies without becoming molestors then it's a net good.

[–]ApplicableSongLyricWe provide... leverage. 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

no, it isn't, but if you read the concluding pages of her paper she does a really, really sneaky bait and switch between drawn and real content.

[–]Davillage 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Always referring to especially not exclusive to drawn childporn.

It is abundantly clear from context that her defense and advocacy extends to all ChildPorn ownership and distribution.

The only thing she is oposed to is production and commercialisation from all I can tell.

[–]ApplicableSongLyricWe provide... leverage. 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

it wasn't, it was because of the constant pedo apologia and shit-kicking over it on twitter that happened later. You can be sure of that.

[–]BlackBison 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

It didn't help that the Twitter account that she used for Nintendo PR was peppered with remarks like, "Whenever I talk about child porn, all my friends run away", especially since NOA is a company with a huge customer base of children and families.

[–]blobbybag 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sometimes it takes more to build a case, some employees are very quick to sue after a firing.

[–]righthandoftyr 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

No wonder with that shirt she's wearing. It's so misogynistic it looks like she's about to land a robot on a comet or something.

[–]SegaSaturnLives 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good to see Ben "I totally shop at Dicks and this flat tire is going away THIS SUMMER!" "Kuchera, who tried to get some low level associate fired from said sports store on Twitter, crying about this.

[–]dbcanuck 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Honest question: Aside from her thesis, is there anything else she has done that would warrant termination? As in, using the voice of her role at Nintendo to push her own political agenda?

I believe in academic freedom and the ability to research and argue a topic in the furtherment of our body of knowledge; I hope that's not the only damning evidence here.

[–]multiman000 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

We don't know the whole story. Jamie Walton got involved and did some digging so who knows what she found out. She might've talked with Nintendo about it and when they took a look at her they may not have liked her recent messages as she was basically touting her position around like it was something worthy of praise and admiration. All we know is that she said some shitty stuff in the past couple years, along with her thesis, was using her personal twitter as her work twitter, and was saying some shitty stuff of a lighter caliber with that same twitter, then word about her thesis and all was given out Jamie Walton who did some looking around. Hell, for all we know, she could've gotten into a fist fight with someone in Nintendo right in front of Reggie and broke a window and THAT is why she got fired.

[–]SunBroPatches [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Even Klepek is ass blasted over this.

[–]KarzanGilgrikssonCited by Based Bokhari 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

WE FINALLY DID IT.

We actually drove someone out of the industry, as they've been accusing us of doing. So... what is the score now? 1-50? We gotta drive more people out of the industry if we want to keep up with the Anti's.

/s

[–]cha0stat tvam asi 17ポイント18ポイント  (10子コメント)

safe

How's that workin' out for you guys?

Real talk though, I hope she gets another job soon

[–]camarougeAnita is my waifu 32ポイント33ポイント  (0子コメント)

as long as it has nothing to do with kids

[–]Tratex 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

She could be the secretary at NAMBLA

[–]oVentusDank ethical tiddies. 22ポイント23ポイント  (3子コメント)

Why would she join the National Association of Marlon Brando Look-Alikes?

[–]Tratex 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

ಠ_ಠ

[–]oaka23 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh come on you had to see that coming

[–]Cerxi32k get! 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Were I the sort to give gold, I'd give you gold

I'm not, so pick a charity to get five bucks

[–]razorbeamzRuns /r/loltaku 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or UNICEF.

[–]MulligantawnySoup 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why?

It's one thing not to celebrate someone's misfortune, but there's nothing wrong with not caring too much about them recovering quickly from a situation of their own doing.

Personally I hope she has a long period of unemployment where she's forced by circumstance to reflect on what led her there. Insulating her from the consequences of her own actions will simply mean she never learns a lesson and keeps repeating the same mistakes which harm others.

Who am I kidding anyway? She'll have a Patreon up and running by the weekend, and a dozen job offers doing PR for SocJus approved companies.

[–]centrum5555 5ポイント6ポイント  (9子コメント)

who was that again?

[–]DestroyedArkana 20ポイント21ポイント  (8子コメント)

A manager of Nintendo of America who has made statements like this.

[–]nrutas 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I disapprove of the people who were targeting her employers BUT she was shit at her job so she should've been fired long ago

[–]beltfedvendetta 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

This thread is a fucking 180 from this thread a month ago where even mods were attempting to shame the community for their opposition to Rapp and acting like everyone complaining about her was actively attempting to get her fired from her job.

That kind of bullshit rhetoric, especially from mods, really makes me question KiA. So, it's nice to see this thread without people attempting to shame an entire community.

Feel free to downvote me now without explaining your reasoning and position at all. Fuck me, right?

[–]highenergysector 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well the mods aren't always the brightest here, not particularly bad but not always bright either. They try to toe some kind of "we can do no evil" line yet utterly fail because reality sometimes are more important than their beliefs/feelings.

[–]Rygar_the_Beast 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Prepare for a bunch of interviewing claiming this was more proof that GG want to destroy women in the game industry.

Without, of course, being actually GG that did it, and, double of course, this woman being in PR and not game development.

[–]BlackBison 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Gamergate: Virgin basement dwellers with zero power, all while having the power to get Nintendo to fire people and hire squads of snipers to stalk Wu.

We're Schrodinger's Boogeyman.

[–]JakConstantine 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is great news. Shame there some dumb comments on here saying this is wrong. She defended a convicted paedophile and was or is advocating CP. Yet this is a family friendly company she was working for.

As for the localizations I think she's full of shit, granted she's not solely responsible, but the position she was in on her job, she could easily communicated with the staff their which would have helped them and let's not forget she was marketing leader for some of the games what made it to the west which got censored like Fatal Frame: Maiden of Black Water.

Lastly her responses to the consumers which the localizations started happening for Fire Emblem: Fates. She is anti consumer so fuck her. I'm glad she is gone.

[–]Davillage 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was inevitable and I called it.

[–]Sapphiretri 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

bye bye pedo pusher

[–]AdamMc66 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jesus, looking at all the people who've replied that they're sorry. You'd think she'd lost her whole family or something by the way they're going on it.

[–]jlenoconel 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm glad she's out of a job. She was making Nintendo look really bad. Good riddance.

[–]nici2412 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can't really feel sorry for someone who defended child pornography. A person like that shouldn't work for a company whose main audience are children.Treehouse being known as notorious censors is another reason why I'm glad she is gone, though I don't know her role in all the censorship of Nintendo games.

[–]AntonioOfVeniceRuns /r/polygon \ Karma King of late April 2015[🍰] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bye bye, Ms. Nosering. I guess you mistook the real world for your college safe space.

[–]Dick_Wingnut 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who would think that publicly advocating for pedos would come back to haunt you when you work for a childrens videogame company.

But no, this is because shes a woman, and not because shes a dumbass.

[–]hungryugolino 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

And nothing of value was lost

[–]Nyx_Antumbra 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wrote an email to Nintendo, because honestly some of the things she said and supported disturbed me. I do feel a bit bad, but I don't regret it..

[–]GBTR 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is good.

[–]TimBurtonSucks 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Love a good gaf meltdown

[–]CistemOfADown 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I can completely understand objecting to this firing. But to object to her firing is to call for the same kind of nuance that a bunch of the people who were complaining about this do not, otherwise, engage in.

[–]noisekeeperUnited the nations over MovieBob 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would have liked non-shit localizations instead of just sacking some PR person.

[–]oldirtybaron 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

So delicious.

Normally I don't like people getting fired for any reason other than they are terrible at their job, but pedophiles and their supporters I will gladly make an exception for.

[–]Professor_Regressor 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can't wait for the articles that claim 'Gamergate harassment target fired for being a woman'

It's pretty simple; she worked in PR, she was bad at her job, she got fired.

[–]SwiftAngel 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I still don't understand what she actually did and whether people here support or oppose this.