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[–]MrZedd 232ポイント233ポイント  (36子コメント)

They took over and the King/Pharaoh wanted his face on the big cat is a theory I read.

[–]DeposeableIronThumb -1ポイント0ポイント  (35子コメント)

I'm an archaeologist and was instructed by one of the world's top Egyptologist in my undergrad. I'm gonna go ahead and nip this in the bud.

Not a theory I've ever heard and not one that would be plausible.

[–]gaslightlinux 5ポイント6ポイント  (12子コメント)

Who instructed you after undergrad? What do you mean by archaeologist?

[–]DeposeableIronThumb 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

I am a field archaeologist who works for the federal government and contract work in the private sector for field surveys.

[–]gaslightlinux 3ポイント4ポイント  (10子コメント)

So just an undergrad degree and you took a course on egyptology?

[–]schmuckhunter 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

I love that this person didn't mention who his instructor was despite you asking. clearly his Undergrad Egyptology class has made him an expert in the field.

[–]gaslightlinux 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

He took a course with a famous egyptologist, doesn't mean he took an Egyptology course with them. It could have been a 101 archaeological methods course in a 100+ person lecture.

He didn't focus on egyptology in his studies nor does he work in egyptology.

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt assuming he took a course in Egyptology. His lack of reply tells me otherwise.

Archaeology is a pretty broad field both in terms of methodology and subject focus.

[–]gaslightlinux 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I figured out who this person studied under. The professor is far from what I refer to as a famous Egyptologist. They work in Egypt. Their publications are of a technical nature, so not too familiar with them and can't speak on their nature.

However, a minimal number of publications, a person fairly new to the field (decent academic pedigree), no tenure.

User is definitely overstating their experience.

Be careful swinging your dick on the internet, it's a big place and you have no idea who might be standing next to you.

[–]DeposeableIronThumb -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

I could hold a GED and that theory would still be absolute rubbish.

[–]gaslightlinux 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm simply stating that as someone more qualified in the field than you are, you are vastly overstating your qualifications.

[–]DeposeableIronThumb -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Oh, and what mighty credentials do you hold?

[–]gaslightlinux 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Switching tactics now after I called you out for being full of shit, figured where you work, who you studied under, where you studied, how you're not in the field of Egyptology, didn't study Egyptology, and only have a BA?

Well, if you want to know my credentials, do some digging. You're an archaeologist, right?

[–]DeposeableIronThumb -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Someone's grumpy. I didn't see you find out annnny of that.

Also, if you're siding with the kooks I'm just gonna assume you're kooky as well.

[–]dekkarrules 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'm not gonna say that it's like 10,000 years old or something, but to refuse to accept the possibility of dating it before Khafra is just being lead headed. The whole thing is ripe with stubbornness. I mean, form the wikipedia page itself...

The Egyptologist Thomas Young, finding the 'Khaf' hieroglyphs in a damaged cartouche used to surround a royal name, inserted the glyph 'ra' to complete Khafra's name. When the Stele was re-excavated in 1925, the lines of text referring to Khaf flaked off and were destroyed."

[–]DeposeableIronThumb -5ポイント-4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Maybe I'm misreading Mr.Zedd's comment but I believe he's saying Khafra changed the already existing sphinx to resemble him as the sphinx had existed entirely before him.

This would entertain the idea that the head of the sphinx was either completely replaced and load bearing beams and support stones were recrafted or replaced. Which would be easily determined as the stones in the head could be of a different material and certainly WOULD be easy to detect if their origin was different. It'd be unlikely if the stones were replaced by new stones.

It would also entertain an alternative idea that the original sphinx head was so large that they carved a human face into the already existing material. I just don't know if that gonna hold up, like literally i don't know if that amount of material would rest easily on the sphinx for however long it presumably existed before Khafra.

Reddit, just because you have a fedora doesn't make you Indiana Jones.

[–]The_Great_Steamsson 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The head is a small in proportion to the body...

[–]dekkarrules 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

The head is actually abnormally small compared to the body, its not as well proportioned as some pictures make it seem.

Maybe it's the conspiracy theorist in me, but the lack of open mindedness among the leading Egyptologists studying the sphinx is what makes me believe they are afraid of their previous narrative being destroyed. Zahi Hawass is such an authoritarian unethical asshole, from what I've learned his relationship with archeologists pretty much run like feudal dictatorial system, please him or GTFO. That chamber located under the Sphinx has been confirmed with radar years and years ago and no work at all has even been attempted to be started. I know it's an extremely slow process but it's abnormally slow, even for this.

[–]DeposeableIronThumb 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

He is an outright asshole and I've luckily never had to deal with working around systems like that.

Fun maaaaybe fact for you that you may like. One of the graduate students I knew had told me that there may be a large living quarters around Giza for workers but Hawass won't let them gpr it or survey it because it rests below the area designated for tour busses. I don't know if it's true but it'd be crazy if it is.

[–]donttaxmyfatstacks 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm not sure if that is necessarily something to brag about. The more you look into Egypt, specifically the Old Kingdom and Pre-dynastic times, the more evident it is that academic Egyptology is a million miles away from any sort of understanding about what went on there. I truly believe we will see the whole edifice of Egyptology crumble to dust in our lifetimes, they can't just continue to be so overwhelmingly wrong in the light of so much evidence.

[–]DeposeableIronThumb -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well that certainly is some insight you have in a field you neither studied nor work in.

[–]donttaxmyfatstacks 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

You don't need to be an engineer to recognize a train crash.

[–]pgrily 6ポイント7ポイント  (8子コメント)

Certainly didn't cover the Sphinx much if that's the case. It's a fairly widespread theory.

[–]DeposeableIronThumb -2ポイント-1ポイント  (7子コメント)

I'd like to see an academic source on that.

Also, widespread doesn't equate to true, doubly so in archaeology.

[–]pgrily 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

I'm not saying it's an accepted theory among scholars, but to have never heard of it while claiming to be an archaeologist that studied under an Egyptologist seems rather bizarre.

Just do a google search or two and you'll find plenty to read about.

[–]DeposeableIronThumb -5ポイント-4ポイント  (5子コメント)

We don't usually study bullshit hypothesis in archaeology. We tend to stick to the scholars. Well, that depends on your opinion of processualism and post-processualism.

I'm fairly familiar with other "fringe archaeology" theories but that's mostly from friends/family members showing me things like Chariot of the Gods or conspiracy alien YouTube videos.

I should also note that while she taught Egyptian archaeology I work exclusively in the United States.

[–]staypositiveasshole 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Still salty, Zahi Hawass?

[–]pgrily 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Is it really a bullshit hypothesis, though? You don't think the disproportionately tiny head could have been carved out of a bigger head at some point?

[–]DeposeableIronThumb -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

When did a (heavily wind eroded) human head on a cat have a reference point in size?

[–]arachnopussy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

By comparing it to other Egyptian artwork with human heads on animal bodies (and vice versa). The Sphinx stands out as a clear anomaly.

[–]RerollFFS 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Even I've heard this theory and it makes a lot of sense to me. Here's one link of many. If you're trying to "nip this in the bud," you're 8 years too late for that.

[–]Coban3 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

are there any good videos of this theories i can watch

[–]RerollFFS 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Admittedly I didn't watch this but this is from the Smithsonian so I assume it's pretty good.

[–]The_Moffin_Man 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'll start off by saying im no archaeologist and you most definitely know more about ancient Egypt than i do. With that being said, i read a peer reviewed document written by Professor Robert Shock (i wanna say he's a geologist) i believe that stated there was undeniable evidence of thousands of years of rainfall erosion at the base of the Sphinx enclosure. And as geologists/climatologists have already proven with climate models the last time there was enough rainfall to in the Nile Valley to produce that amount of erosion would date the sphinx about 10,000 yrs older than it is currently believed to be.

[–]staypositiveasshole 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rhetoric